One of the best Stand on mower Comparison videos I’ve seen! Great job of breaking down the most important aspects from Maintenance to Hill Stabilty to comfort while riding on the platform! Thanks for breaking it down in amazing detail!
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This was a great review and comparison vid. I love my vride 2, but feel like the controls are too stiff. Definitely agree with the weight of the deck lift on the Scag. Great vid mate.
I I think that if scag will come up with a deck almost like exmark ultra cut. Deep deck. I believe that exmark is best cutting almost any tall grass. Now with bigger engine man they kick butts.
Scag cuts better tall grass than exmark I run both mowers scag chute opening is wayyy bigger shoots out grass faster…….. scag and exmark decks are two top on market
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I don't find any of these reviews on the gravely true..I have the prostance 60 and a scag windstorm I'm much more comfortable on the gravely the platform that everyone crabs about, u can stand back on it and really shift ur weight around especially on inclines and the controls are night and day difference my hands are exhausted running the scag the controls are very stiff and hard to squeeze where the gravely is smooth as butter just like my toro walkbehind very easy to squeeze and especially going downhill the scag wonders a bit the gravley straight as an arrow. Maybe the scag mowers are different than the windstorm idk but there isn't one thing I like about the scag better than the gravely.the deck height adjustment on gravely sits horizontal with the deck heights listed plain as day u pull the deck up pull the pin and put in desired height instantly where all others are vertical with deck height adjustment on side completely out of site it seems u can't change with out dismounting. Scag vide 2 60" 13.5k gravely 10.5k
Great points. If you love the gravely then that’s the mower for you. Don’t let our review move you away from that. We appreciate your comment and information for the other viewers to consider.
Why I did this I don't no but I got rid of my gravley and bought the 2023 v ride 2 a couple months back worst decision I've ever made I absolutely can't stand this mower,the stance is horrible its like ur downhill sking ur knees are constantly bent if u try 2 lean in 2 use the whole pad you're hanging over the front of the tower and controls.being in the mower instead of on the platform makes it impossible to really lean in2 the slope, gas tank on one side and fender that u drive ur knee in2 on the other just a major bummer. The scag constantly drags the rear tire when ur turning if ur on even the slightest slope I've got drag marks all over my lawns now. The controls are twice as hard to squeeze the return to natural are springs and are way 2 strong if ur hand slips the lever instantly comes back and abruptly stops the mower where the gravely controls come back to natural hydraulically very smooth..the only thing this scag mower does and does well is cut 38.5 hp kawa plus the deck design gives it an incredible cut..I hope this reaches some people and saves them from a scag
I had scag vr2. 1st. Control need to work on it when you down on a hill that deck move or push the mower to sides You hit a pump your line is off. On tall grass is ok. vr2 when you go up hill budge. But again. They need to do better on the controls to stiff. I don’t know about cadet or gravely. But on stand mower wright is the best the controls is like best those control will do what you want. I have one. Like I say I have a scag. But on cutting tall grass. I give to the exmark.
Nice review bro. I’ve run vantage and grandstand. I purchased a new Cub Pro X654 by demo and couldn’t pass up the way they designed this new pro line. The 3 year unlimited hour warranty sold me along with the $1500 off deal they were running this spring. I love it and have no complaints other than the chute block accessory sucks
Yea it’s a pretty awesome mower. That warranty is great too. Please keep me updated if you think about it. I’m interested to hear how it is after 3 or 500 hours and where the pinch points will be.
A local cub cadet dealer made me an offer to buy a peo 60 inch cut standard unit for 10,350 00. U an very tempted to gi vut tgw mower. We have too many hills in east tennessee.
If it helps at my closest cub dealer the cadet runs between 7,500 and 9,500 depending on deck size, 36”-60”. The scag is 7,700- 10,800, depending on deck size, 32- 61” Can’t help you with the gravely too much, but I saw online the 48” model runs about 8,800
That's awesome. It's definitely a huge selling point when they have a great warranty and the dealer follows through with it as well. Thanks for watching!!
Hey Freeman Lawncare, We have run Scags quite a bit more than John Deere. But enough to tell you that in our area (East Texas with lots of bahai grass) the Scag outcuts the John Deere by a pretty big margin. By outcut, I mean less times making extra passes and the dispersement of the grass itself. Even on nice grasses such as st augustine, centipede, zoysia & bermuda, the scag seems to do a little better. That's just my opinion based on my experience. In your area though if you have different grasses, the John Deere may be the best bet. Have you run both of these decks before? If so, what are your thoughts?
@@lawnandlight great video btw! I have demoed the mulch on demand deere deck and it missed dandelions causing me to double cut like I'm stuck doing with my exmark. From what you described I need to go with scag. I'm in Georgia and have some bahia that my exmark will only cut the seed heads in half and misses almost all dandelions. I'm so tired if double cutting with a 48. I demoed the pro stance it was way to slow in reverse and I did not like that I had to keep my hand on the left control. I really want the vride but due to uneven yards I'm scared I'll scalp a lot as I use my foot to float the deck now and cuts down on trim time. So I'm torn between a ztr or stander. But feel a 61 is to big in a stander but coming from a 48 I want to get done faster with a 61. And I'll keep my 48 for bagging small back yards pools etc.
thank you. I agree with with having to hold your hand on the left control on the Gravely. That drove me crazy too but i forgot to talk about it on the video. The 61 is a beast and you do have to be careful about scalping. We have some massive yards so we have to go with the 61's for efficiency. I think you may be surprised though how fast you can adjust to your yards with a 61. It will only take a bit for you to kind of relearn your yards to continue to make them look good without floating. Also, we ended up buying new V-Rides out of these 3 mowers if that helps. And when they are brand new, shiny and perfectly lubed up, you can float the deck some. I forgot to mention dealer support. You already know thats really important but here's a video that we are releasing today at 2pm. I think this link will work. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HoG77ERoJBI.html
@@lawnandlight that's awesome will be looking for the video. I subscribed. Dealer support is a must! Scag is my best and closest. Only 11 minutes from me. I mow part time after my full time job. I have exactly 40 bi weekly accounts plus my own lawn so I just mowed 82 yards this past month. 3 of them are 2 acres the rest are 1 acre mostly if not 3/4. So would a 52 vride be a lot faster than my 48 sit down. Or play it safe and get the 61 tc2 with 32 vanguard... or I've even thought about fleet and get a 61 cheetah and 52 vride or 48 vride and sell my exmark. But then again I will probably mostly be on the 61 and waste a warranty and payment on the other. I'm very confused on what to do as you can see lol. I demoed the turf tiger with the 37 efi. That was a beast. But I fear repair costs on efi later. Wish scag would do a 3 year warranty cause if I buy now I'll waste 1 year once the seasons over. How often do you have to grease everything? I'm used to the sealed bearings and tool less belt change. I did feel great after working with the vride.
I think you’d probably be surprised how much a 52 would help over at 48. There are a few main reasons we run v rides. In order, 1. Price 2. Efficiency 3. Better hill stability 4. Size for trailering If your scag dealer is the best I think that solidifies your decision. We grease spindles once a week with blade changes and try to get the other greased areas as well. We just bought a Milwaukee battery powered grease gun which has made this effortless. There are cheaper ones out there but I would recommend to get one when you get a scag. We have run the kohler efi on our v rides and love it. If you keep everything clean it works great. It sounds like you operate everything yourself so you would probably be great at this. And the fuel savings is about 20% or more. The cost savings on fleet is pretty substantial if you can go that route. I’m not sure what the 61 v ride with kohler efi is regular price but we bought 2 of them for $7700 each. Sheffield is doing 48 months 0% interest if your credit is decent. We make payments large enough to pay off in 3 years when we will buy new ones anyways. Ends up being about $450/month. Hard to beat that with 2 mowers. I think A new Turf Tiger runs $12k - 14k. Is that right? I understand the mass confusion of this process of buying new mowers. We have been through it too. There’s just so much you have to consider. Try to look at what your needs are now and where you want to be in a year and buy according to that and your financial position as well. If you have to hire a helper at some point, a lot of your yards may be more efficient if you are both on a mower at the same time and then both weedeat an blow at the same time as well. Hope that helps.
Great video, very thorough and seemed pretty unbiased. It's interesting that everybody has different opinions/experiences based on their needs. We had to make a decision on new mowers this year too and tested everything around us. In our experience we liked the Scags the least and thought very highly of cub cadet. We ultimately went with a Bad Boy stander and have been extremely happy, great HP and smooth steering and the deck is a beast. For our residential oriented mower we got cub cadet, it stripes like nothing else and the smoothness of the cut rivals exmark.
Thanks for watching. Yes I would agree. Everyones properties and experience will play heavily into the final decision. Along with dealer support. Let me know how those Bad Boys hold up. I tested one a couple weeks after there first stander hit the market and didn’t love the cut but I’m sure they have worked out some kinks since then. Or maybe it was the types of grass here that it didn’t like. I think when the cub cadet adds some efi options they will continue to grow their sales.
@@lawnandlight will do, I have an older bad boy ztr with the previous deck that is a little disappointing in terms of striping but has been good overall for our larger parks and commons areas. The new deck on the stand on I think has been excellent so far, it stripes nicely and handles heavy discharge well with no stragglers. I agree on cub, as soon as they add some good efi engines I may consider changing a few mowers or upgrading to them in a couple years
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I believe the gravely could possibly be the better one om the hill and this video got lost in unproven intuitions about it. The platform of the gravely is where it is to facilitate the walk behind capability, which could be incredibly good with a 32 or 36 in difficult terrain, again this video didn't care for it.
You might be right. Unintentional bias is a possibility, not intended. However, we did try to judge each one with the same lens. That’s why there were several categories. “Didn’t care for it” isn’t an accurate representation. Your unintentional or intentional bias may move you in the direction of the Gravely. At the end of the day they are all great machines so use what you prefer.
I've used an older v ride 61" as well as a pro stance 52". I could not stand the platform of the scag. When it would bottom out over hard hitting holes it sent all the pressure into my lower back. The controls were also very touchy and stiff. They were exhausting to use. I have put the pro stance on slopes that I could barely walk up and it would hold it almost the whole time. The platform did a great job of absorbing those hard hits. The controls were nearly effortless and I could manage them 1 handed when using the mower and backpack blower. Probably more biased to the pro stance since I have an overwhelming amount of time on them compared to a v ride. With that said I'm sure the v ride 2 is as good if not better than a pro stance. They're are so many pro and cons to each mower it really is best if someone has the chance to demo one to figure out if that mower works best for them and their needs.
I totally disagree with having a sore back I still prefer to sit down and cut grass all machines have their pros and cons if you develop ankle or knee problems all you have is a stand or more let me know how that more has treated your body I have a combination of walk-behind with a salty Zero Turns and I'm going to buy a Toro 36 in grandstand that allow me to get behind gated backyards I realized everybody has to do what's best for them we having a variety is what's best for my business I cannot say that having a grandstand is better than a zero-turn I have not bought mines yet but I know I will prefer to sit down and cut grass then stand up
Maybe it’s just me and my guys. You’re right. Everybody has to do what works for them. We still have one sit down mower as well that we use quite a bit.
Nice video we have bahia in Florida too don't you just love it l don't have bahia anyone maybe 1 percent we have St Augustine and we use 100 percent mulching mowers nice video 👍
Thank you for a video that touches on the real issues of a stander. I also really appreciated you telling us what kind of grass you were cutting. I am in Florida and I agree, Bahia will beat a mower to death. Did you get a chance to test the Cub cadet on St. Augustine and if so what height did you cut at. currently have a couple new 36 vride 2 and a scag sit down. Looking at a 54 inch.
Hey D Miles. Thanks for watching. We didn’t have n opportunity to cut St Augustine. Just Bahia, centipede and Bermuda. It cut all 3 well. In our experience, if a mower can cut Bahia well, it usually handles good grass really well unless it is overgrown. A Cub rep called me the other day asking if we wanted to demo again so I think they are continually pushing to get it into the market. Shouldn’t be too hard for you to get one to test out. Let me know what you think if you test one.
I have a hustler with sealed spindle barons with 1300 never had a spindle go out it’s awesome how I look at it if you can put grease in it that means moisture can get in there overtime and it’s a lot easier not Greason
Great point John. You make a great point and it’s good to here from someone actually running sealed spindles. I’ve had several buddies that have had sealed spindles and have had great luck with them.
The Briggs efi 37hp is a monater had a v ride 2 and the handling was a little laggie I went with weight stander x 52 a hoss and then bought 2 john deeres guess i got duds idk
Thanks John. Appreciate you being here. We are still with the Scag v rides. 2 61” with over 1000 hours and 2 52” with 700-800 hours. Little things are starting to break but that is to be expected. We are still happy with them.
@@lawnandlight My bad, forgot to check what video I was responding to! I got the SRT-XD, a ZTR. I don't like standers, but I can post a review vid of one here later.
I appreciate your review however, most of your opinions was bias you use Scag and you lean towards them on several areas do to previous experience oppose to scientific testing.
I prefer sealed spindles. Just replaced my first one this season on my 2001 Exmark Turf tracer. I've owned many Exmarks and never had to replace a spindle besides this one.
