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SCAMP capsize and recovery 2: turtled 

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Second test of a SCAMP capsize, this time to practice recovering from a full (turtled) capsize.

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13 окт 2022

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@brentbutikofer9055
@brentbutikofer9055 4 месяца назад
Thank you for doing these tests. I have never seen a turtled Scamp until watching your test video.
@jwboatdesigns
@jwboatdesigns 11 месяцев назад
We have on some of the boats epoxied a "pull out cord" in the tip of the offcentreboard, that, about 75mm back from the leading edge, about 300mm long with a knot in the end enables someone in the water to pull the board back out in case of a full rollover. Note though, it does require that the 'board uphaul is not cleated off.
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats 11 месяцев назад
This year I've added a releasable cleat (same as for the rudder downhaul) to lock the centreboard in the extended position. I've got "add a pull out cord" to the to-do list this winter. Always good to have plans B and C.
@salorjim1000
@salorjim1000 Год назад
Very usefull for us Scamp owners, thanks for doing the testing!!
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats Год назад
Glad it was helpful, this stuff is important!
@chrisleggatt3240
@chrisleggatt3240 Год назад
Yes, great to see a turtle in action, thanks, 2 questions please, how did you get it to go full turtle, and putting it politely, would someone ( a friend of mine 😉) near 18 stones of weight be an advantage?
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats Год назад
I got her to turtle by putting some of my weight on the port cockpit coaming when she was on her side. Left to her own devices, she'd had stayed on her side all day (per the other capsize video). As for the second question, I'm not sure I understand -- advantage for... turtling her? Probably not since it wasn't really an effort for me at 150lbs, just had to sit on the coaming for a few seconds. If you mean an advantage to keep the boat upright, I'd say yes -- Ursa is definitely able to withstand more breeze with two people as ballast to windward than when it's just me.
@chrisleggatt3240
@chrisleggatt3240 Год назад
Thankyou, I meant would " higher mass" be much advantage to reright after turtleing or would it be technique over brute force be a boon? 🤣
@chrisleggatt3240
@chrisleggatt3240 Год назад
Lovely boat btw
@rudineibasei8322
@rudineibasei8322 3 месяца назад
Muito bom!
@OkieBobby
@OkieBobby 6 месяцев назад
Once righted, looks like very little water remained in the cockpit. That's a big plus.
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats 6 месяцев назад
Yes, SCAMPs take on very little water when capsizing. One of the very few improvement to the original design in this regard is to build the cuddy opening (e.g. bulkhead 4) narrower, in such a way that water does not ingress into the cuddy when SCAMP lies on her side in a capsize. With this modification, there is even less water that remains in the boat when righted.
@Verradonairun
@Verradonairun 5 месяцев назад
Good luck doing that with any type of wave action. Boats don't capsize on calm days, unfortunately.
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for reminding us that a capsize on a calm day is unlikely. However, learning/practicing what to do when your boat does capsize on a blustery day is the first step to self-rescue in more demanding situations.
@Verradonairun
@Verradonairun 5 месяцев назад
@@kootenaymountainboats good point.
@leemelbourne3297
@leemelbourne3297 6 месяцев назад
It is funny calling that a centreboard. Perhaps a sideboard might be better? Do you find that they sail better on one side compared to the other?
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats 6 месяцев назад
Side board or off-center-board :) And in answer to your question, no, I see no difference between the two sides, she sails equally well on port or starboard tack. In fact on a port tack, with the boom and sail pushed against the mast, she seems to point slightly higher by 1-2 degrees. The addition of a "bleater" on the boom helped her regain those extra degrees on a starboard tack. I'd definitely recommend adding one to a SCAMP rig.
@TheKetamineSquid
@TheKetamineSquid Год назад
is there nothing from stopping the offcentreboard from moving back? what about when you're sailing?
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats Год назад
Good observation. There's 20 pounds of lead at the foot of the centreboard, which is enough to keep it where it needs to be when sailing. After this test I added "rig a centreboard downhaul line" to my to-do list. The work is coming up this spring, I'll see if I can post an update. The downhaul line will keep the centreboard nice and deployed in future capsizes, but will have an auto-release cleat to keep the centreboard retractable if it hits something in the shallows.
@TheKetamineSquid
@TheKetamineSquid Год назад
@@kootenaymountainboats right...is there also anything to hold it in the "up" position as well? or is it just hinged and does what it likes? i'd be very interested to see how this centreboard downhaul works, i might add it into mine as well.
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats Год назад
@@TheKetamineSquid Yes there's a centreboard uphaul that all SCAMPs have to retract the centreboard (e.g. when approaching a beach). I don't have a diagram but it's basically a 1/4" line that runs forward from the aft end of the centreboard, above the pivot, such that when you pull that line forward the effect is to rotate the centreboard on its pin, into the centreboard case. The line can then be cleated and the centreboard held secure retracted in its case.
@TheKetamineSquid
@TheKetamineSquid Год назад
@@kootenaymountainboats ok, thanks
@scottastell9415
@scottastell9415 10 месяцев назад
Amazing....just sit on the hull and call the water police/ coast guard if turtled. My Scamp CLARE (hull #407) has never even looked liked going over even in a strong breeze. Stay away from Cape Horn and Bass Strait Australia and I'd say a full Turtle of a Scamp is highly unlikely!
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats 9 месяцев назад
You are right that a SCAMP capsize is unlikely; they're fantastic little boats. But -- respectfully, "just sit on the hull and call the water police/ coast guard if turtled" seems like a risky plan. It's important to address these risks, especially since this is a public forum: 1. It assumes you are able to place that call. Unless you sail with your waterproof phone or VHF radio tethered to your person, AND it's with you after the capsize, AND (in the case of phone) the touchscreen is operational with wet or gloved fingers, it's easy to imagine a scenario where you have nothing to call with. 2. It assumes the water police / coast guard is able to quickly reach you. It takes less than 2 minutes to right a turtled SCAMP. Extremely rare would be the scenario where the coast guard or a vessel of opportunity can reach you in under 10-15 minutes. Those are some long minutes sitting exposed on a turtled boat, doubly so if the water temperatures are anything but tropical and the sea state anything but calm. 3. It takes resources away from other potentially more serious incidents. To dispatch a coast guard vessel to a turtled SCAMP that could easily be righted with minimal practice means that rescue vessel is not available for other potentially more serious issues. Relying on external rescue for a capsize, no matter how unlikely that event, is not something that I can recommend. But I do respect your right to sail as you wish. Fair winds to you.
@TreDeuce-qw3kv
@TreDeuce-qw3kv 2 месяца назад
One should, wherever possible, prepare for the worst case scenario and not depend on government entities to rescue you putting them at risk or taking them away from somebody who really needs immediate help.
@user-ig4eo5xe8m
@user-ig4eo5xe8m 3 месяца назад
Where's your shvert...
@kootenaymountainboats
@kootenaymountainboats 3 месяца назад
Don’t talk about my shvert.
@user-ig4eo5xe8m
@user-ig4eo5xe8m 3 месяца назад
@@kootenaymountainboats You've lost him, you've done well enough.
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