Nothing against religion but this seems cult like to me good way to ensure no one leaves the group because they won’t have the skills to make it without the community
As others have said, girls normally do get better education and have a less strictly religious program (not saying it’s not still very intense - just not to the same extent as the boys) because women are viewed closer to God in this faith and are already closer than the men will ever be which is why their teaching is more rigorous. girls are still mistreated though unfortunately just in a different way :(
I don't get it. If they aren't registered as schools then these children's parents all need to be fined and if necessary prosecuted for not sending their children to school.
They have a right to educate at home. I honestly wouldn't alienate a while community of people any more I'd work alongside them. It's the only way to help them. You have to understand their way of life and meet them in the middle. They learn Hebrew not French etc
@@DavidHeffron78 why would they need other subjects? there entire life is the torah it has everything they will ever need in life. They are devoted to the faith, to god. They live simple lives without modern day tech. To change how they live would be a abuse it would be go against their religion. And damn their soul from their point of view. The soul is all that matters.
Why isn't this a bigger issue? From what i know, children between 5-16 in the UK are legally required to be enrolled in school OR parents have to be able to prove they are providing suitable home-based schooling for their children.... Why is the government not making a bigger deal out of this? Respecting religious freedom is one thing, but following the law is another. If these children never get a proper education, how will they eventually be able to integrate into society? This is not just a community issue, but a societal issue because these children will eventually grow up to be incapable of finding and performing work and most likely dependant on the state.
I expect it's because the children live in a very orthodox Jewish community who provide their own shops, employment and even an ambulance service, so the community educate the children according to what they will need to live within that community as adults. It's a sensitive issue because the Stamford Hill Jews don't tend to integrate with people outside their community nor have many outside visitors. Sort of like how the Amish are in the USA.
For me, it's more so a safeguarding issue! Those buildings are VILE!!! Why would you send your Child there?! In that case, imagine the properties that they rent to non-Jews!
The specific question which was not addressed was the length of the school day in each case. Apart from the issues of the condition of the buildings, purely religious schools are acceptable as 'after-school' provision - they finish their school day much later than normal state schools; while it could be that these are full-time schools, it isn't clearly stated that they are.
Im an observant Jew who attended state school and thank the almighty for my education, how can it be right in 2023 bce that some young Jewish men dont know that London is their capital,what about going into buisness or being a member of the Neteuri Karta or some other passionate anti Zionist dynasty you have to have a modicum of political nous and all because the hasidic Rebbes are terrified it will impact on their lives and why keep kosher and let them eat in nesr squalor can any other Jew or Gentile see my point please Baruch Hashem Ahava Na Shalom.
@@ShaunBoden-zw5zu Thing is the two-faced side of it. The pictures from the one school are horrifying. How can one even pretend that it's kosher to have a kitchen like that? Most people respect others beliefs as long as the other person is not trying to convert or being aggressive towards other peoples beliefs and principles. I don't believe for one second that the Torah or the Talmud says that Jews should cut themself off from wider society and be insular sects. (I have not read either, but religous texts often talk about how to be a better person, or how to better a community. And cutting yourself off from everyone who don't think exactly like you is extremely unhealthy) Shabbat Shalom.
So help them invest and learn about their religion. Understand their way of life and help them. Stop judging these people. Help them help themselves. Help the school and kids.
The main thing they learn is how to count money and how to invest in viable businesses. Don’t use your hands only the head. Property is the road to wealth.
I would like to know where the students stand who received education from these school as English is not necessary a must requirement for learning. Appalling conditions are questionable but if the community wants to preserve its exposure to modernised world let them be. That’s a basic right
The "modernised world"? What are you bleating about? Being able to speak the language of the country you live in isn't some new fangled frippery. It's child abuse.
I completely agree, most within the ultra orthodox community have no interest in the outside world. Their life is their family, community and religion. That’s how they live and want it. The issue is what about if they want to venture outside that community, how will they integrate into society? How will they get a job? Etc Regarding the condition I think one has to question the funding (or lack of) that is available to them. People within the community want this education, so help better the institutions and get them to an acceptable condition instead of ‘closing’ them
What is the big deal about speaking English? I knew a guy who went to one of these schools in Brooklyn and made a pile of money in textiles. 10x more than my university educated dad who was a VP at a Manhattan PR firm.
@@rileyfox4001 It's Britain you fool. We don't force anything on anyone apart from the rule of law. Besides, the English language is so extensively unmatched it doesn't have to be pushed on to any nation or religion. For safety reasons though....all pilots and captains at sea must be fluent. Because it's the language of intellectual, technical, biological, environmental, emotional, war and all that goes with it.
Yes Yiddish is the language they learn and Hebrew. Like the Coptic orthodox Christian community speak Coptic in the service with Egyptian Arabic. I hope we open our own schools in future in England. These people have a right to learn Yiddish and love how they want, but they are not receiving the understanding and support they need and tolerance.
@@rojava1619 They don't watch the news.If they are happy as they are I don't feel people should intrude on their way of life. Their doctors speak their language.I don't know how people vote in the UK but in America instructions are written out in all languages.
this video: 1. talks about schools and "thousands of children." 2. shows pics of "unnamed schools." 3. plays a religious celebration of a yeshiva, as if that is related. 4. ends off naming ONE school. HAHAHA YOU LIARS
And you cannot translate the ENGLISH to yiddish as someone has knobbled Google Translate to turn the english words into gobble-de-goop - bet they ignorantly think that is "smart"
Do you bother the Medrasassas? If that is the way the parents want to educate their children what is it your business? Is its secular education you want or your Trojan Horse agenda?
The problem is that the children grow up without the education necessary to leave should they wish to do so. They are stuck in a sect that isolates itself from the modern world and is deliberately creating barriers.
@@geoffmelnick1472 you fail to mention, this sect they are 'stuck' in, takes well care of one another. Each day in Stamford Hill money is given in charity, than what you and your great grandparents made in a lifetime. Divorce rates are at state-wide low levels. Most people are happy and content. Suicides are extremely rare. Business is booming. There are many many more positives, you should come and see for yourself.
@@AllJewsAreZionists That's exactly the point. They are not brought up to be able to make a living, they are brought up so that many of them have to live on charity. What about לא לידי מתנת בשר ודם ולא לידי הלואתם כי אם לידך...
@@geoffmelnick1472 you obviously didn't read the sentence I wrote "business is booming". Also, where do you think all the charity money comes from? From the non working to the poor? I take it that you're in Israel or someplace in a later time zone, otherwise what's with "זכור את יום השבת לקדשו"?
@@AllJewsAreZionists Business obviously isn't booming, otherwise why would some of them need to accept charity. Also you are not right that no-one wants to leave. Many do, but it is very difficult, almost impossible. They do not have even basic maths. Many can't add a third and a quarter. And the people who do manage to leave are usually very angry about their lack of education.
Though this report may be the case, perhaps it should not be in place of reporting on the frighteningly rise in antisemitism which is currently rampant, in this country and world-wide.
That’s whataboutism. As someone who is intimately familiar with all the schools and yeshivos mentioned in this report, I can attest that each and every word of it is true. Well done to those who have worked tirelessly to bring this into the public eye.
Hi David. As I said in my response am not suggesting this report is false, or that it shouldn't exist, simply that there is clearly an absence of reports about the frightening incidents of antisemitism
That is a completely separate issue? Why bring that up as if what you see in the investigation should be brushed under the carpet? One can think that both are abhorrent
I've met some of them. They do pick up English but speak it with an accent. They don't generally have media in their homes either. They simply don't know basic maths or science.
