One thing I hate about SN compared to TOA is how my teammates don’t fight as hard as I do. I do all of the work in SN while my teammates move around like toddlers
Really? That's actually one of the reasons i like them. Hell, i wish they werent even in the combat spaces, just lending me their powers and attacks and that's it. I hate these stupid games with 4-5 characters on screen doing random shit at all times. It's too chaotic and usually results in enemies that don't react to hits and are damage sponges due to the constant and incessant attacks from ai.
@@kato093well I’m tired of being paired up with stupid bots that don’t do shit, every game where you have a party I stand and watch what the teammate AI does, if they can’t beat an enemy without my input it’s dogshit. Final Fantasy 7 remake pisses me off for that reason sometimes, DBZ Kakarot actually surprised me on that front. I just wish they added MORE enemies to fight instead of making my teammates completely useless unless I’m pressing an input for them, and I strongly wish they don’t go your route and take the characters out of the 3d space just to jump in when you input a command, why are you playing a teammate based game if you don’t want teammates fighting alongside you? Might as well not even have a party system. Either flesh out a good teammate system or don’t make a teammate system at all, why play a party based ARPG if you want your teammates out of the way? You’re looking for a single player experience with 1 protagonist homie, not a party system. Play a 1 protagonist game instead of asking party based games to be more like 1 protagonist games if you can’t handle multiple characters on screen at the same time
In a hack n slash, personally I think it’s a good thing. I want to stylishly combo on enemies like I’m Dante from Devil May Cry and I can’t do that if battles keep ending early.
ToA. While SN does better at bonding with individual characters, ToA excels in almost everything else. ToA makes you feel like you’re exploring a more fleshed out world, whereas SN makes you feel like you’re just doing missions in the same places over and over.
Couldn't agree more, environment's in Tales games in general are so emerseive. Whilst SN areas were really lifeless. SN was fun, character designs great, but the missed the mark on so many areas.
@@Introversion399 This! TOA starts very well then it's story becomes a total mess! It's one of those game for which you can really tell that they really missed the landing to almost a laughing point, like it was almost done on purpose.
Love both of these games equally, it's hard for me to choose one over the other because they both brought me 60+ hours of entertainment each, although, I'd prefer Scarlet Nexus for the story and combat and Tales of Arise for the characters and side content if I had to make a decision between them. Both amazing games that helped me through tough times, great in depth review as always!
I'm right with you. I think Arise is better but enjoy Scarlet Nexus more. Thanks for helping this channel grow. Moving forward we'll be covering new games!
@@GoblinSlayerZach Yeah, just give the demo a shot to see if you like it, the combat in Scarlet Nexus is really awkward at first but the longer you play it the easier it gets, Tales of Arise is amazing as well, they're both well worth the investment if you have the time and ambition to play through them all the way, hope that helps a bit.
The satisfaction that I got after finishing Tales of Arise was on another level, when I finished Scarlett nexus I was like "yeah that was kinda fun, anyway" but with tales of arise I rlly got involved into the world, the characters and the story, not to mention the amazing combat, it was just on a whole different level compared to my personal experience with Scarlet Nexus.
Perfect comment!! it's all about tastes. some people adore Pokémon others despise it. play what YOU enjoy and try others just for the experience. just like he said: "Better to play a 7 that you love than an 8 that you never finish."
Crazy that I find this video as I'm between picking between the two for a steam sale.i wanna get a decent ARPG for my steam deck and these two seem the most interesting. Tales is slightly more at around $25, while Scarlet is around $15-$16. 😬 This video DEFINITELY helps.
Scarlet nexus felt better to me. Sure it’s not as lengthy and big as tales arise. But when the epic moments happen in scarlet nexus, they actually do hit. Like the final boss for example, to me that felt like an all or nothing fight.
Scarlet nexus got boring before even the 10 hour mark, couldn't even finish the thing. Tales of arise has much better gameplay and pacing by far that constantly keeps you engaged, where scarlet nexus sludges to a slow crawl at times with very bland characters that don't make you invested in them.
@@nottomiokagiyu9830 tales of arise was my first tales game that I've completed, so I'm by no means a tales fanboy, I've just played both games and toa is better
I liked Arise more (overall felt better with story, characters, combat, world/field map (this is definitely one thing Arise has a huge edge on...SN felt's maps felt too much like God Eater/Monster Hunter's mission maps and hub map rather than an actual world while Arise felt like an actual world you journeyed through), and so on) but I will say that as far as final boss goes Scarlet Nexus definitely had a far more fun/epic final boss and fight than Arise did (and I'm not counting the final duel fight with you know who...for Arise, the final boss in Arise is the 2 stage fight before that imo as that duel is made to be nearly impossible to lose...kinda like the final fight in Symphonia Dawn of a New World and it's there just to add flavor to the story and wasn't really necessary). SN also had far better alli AI than Arise (which as far as the Tales series goes Arise's ally AI is perhaps the worst in the series by far...same with the AI strategy menu due to it being party based rather than individual character based (many of the AI issues likely could get fixed if they let you customize each character's AI individually tbh)).
"It's better to play a 7 that you love than an 8 that you never finish." So true. I love Tales- but I love Scarlet Nexus a wee bit more. Just a wee bit. ^_^ And Idk why gamers have such strong opinions on which game is better- when in fact, playing games is a "solitary" activity"- it's YOUR CHOICE all the time- so the fun others are having on a game is just plain irrelevant since you don't get to experience other people's "fun" personally. FUN IS ALWAYS PERSONAL and subjective. So yeah, let's just have fun with our choices- that's it. ^_^
I prefer the combat and the look of the world so far in Scarlett Nexus (And the crazy enemy design, one type wears a corset over sexy thighs that turn in to goat legs that support a flower pot body with blooming flowers for a... head? While another enemy was like a rhino who I defeated by punching him in his light bulbs and I'm pretty sure I haven't taken any acid)
Most engaging? Watching cutscenes for necessary stat bonuses was the exact opposite of engaging. Scarlet nexus was an amazing action game when you were in the stages but godamn HATED the standby phases...
Only played several hours of SN but its combat wasn't enough to combat a bland HS cast and boring world with a bunch of email to read. Thankfully it's on gamepass, so didn't waste any money on it.
TOA is one of the best modern RPG's and one of my favourite games of all time, i loved the world and characters so much more than SN and was a better game in my opinion, everyone should give it a chance
I don't know on what basis you place that claim on, but SN's artstyle is unique as well. The retro futuristic holographic world was pretty unique. The only other game that even comes close to this art style is soul hackers 2, but even the difference between those 2 are vast. So both games have a pretty unique art style. @@kisigma1011
I did play and beat TOA first. The only thing I like about SN over TOA is the music. TOA is the much better game. Everything is better about it… BUT SN IS STILL GREAT! ITS A GREAT GAME! But it’s just not better than Tales
tales of arise is A$$ game, I hate that teleporting bull*it when u trying to attack an enemy and game teleports u on the arena right away lol it's so dumb
Just happy to help. I had to learn that myself after realizing I had intially missed out games I ended up loving (i.e., Dragon's Dogma) because I was too beholden to review scores
Idk really anything about either of these games, but I was considering getting one of them and it is quite ironic that I was trying to decide between the two, and I stumble across a video that actually compares them both. So @harlingaming, thank you for that. I’ll probably end up getting them both at some point, but I think I’ll start with TOA.
I've never played toa but I love SN combat imo is fun especially you advance it more in the brain map and SAS adds even more into it. For me the character area was pretty good imo I enjoyed seeing them develop and maturing it didn't really feel tacked on or flat for me personally I loved getting to interact with them and learning and growing with them though I do wish you got to interact with the gifts you were given by the other characters it just felt really nice imo i still gota beat yuitos side of the story though. Oh and the ost is also a awsome bonus love the ost
"Better to play a 7 that you love than an 8 that you never finish." I LOVE THAT, so many times we're so consumed with review scores that our gut feel and actual personal experiences with a game take a back seat. Not to diminish game reviews or anything, I think it's a great way of getting an overview of how games are and help you make a smarter purchasing decision. But in the end, try out a game if you can, and if you like it, play it (and hopefully ACTUALLY finish it, lol)!
I liked both of these games a lot. But if I had to choose, it'd definitely be Tales of Arise. It's got some of the best gameplay I've seen in a video game, the story and characters are absolutely wonderful, and above all else the music is still just as great as it always is for the series.
My only issue with toa was the grind because even killing everything otw to the boss you'll still be out leveled like they're pushing you to buy level packs
@@romellpoellinetz7435 what was your level when you finished it? I finished it arounnd 65-75 in Hard Mode, and I probably haven't even done half the side quests, nor unlocked most of the titles of characters (even just the novice trainingn grounds titles, nor cook meal 5x, etc, weren't unlocked)
Imo Tales of Arise is kinda bad, namely the story. The music is alright, but hot take, the combat is a bit mid. It feels like a boneless DMC where the enemies never stagger. And everything is a damage sponge.
I absolutely hated Tales of arise felt like it was one step forward and two steps back. Storyline failed to even be near berseria being campy in a bad way throughout the entire campaign and gameplay was lacking...severely when stacked up against an older game from the franchise Tales of Graces that had one of the most indepth combat mechanics out of any tales games to this day. I'm just meh o.- Scarlet Nexus is better grabbed me from beginning of the world and to its very end.
Scarlet Nexus is better: better battle system, gift system, better characters, better music, more interesting setting. Tales of Arise is extremely boring, imho.
the only thing I dislike about scarlet nexus is the text cutscenes. I wish the cutscenes should be actual animated scenes. Text-faced cutscenes put me to sleep.
Ive played both games and got all their DLC's and heres my take You play tales of arise if you are more into the lore and worldbuilding of the game meanwhile scarlet nexus has one of if not the best gameplay mechanics in a jrpg game with better endgame and dlc content (except story). Plus the boss fights are way better than tales of arise. The story of scarlet nexus was good but if you compare it to a tales game such as arise, I'd rate it a 6/10. The main story lacked presentation and was fcking short so the worldbuilding wasnt that established even with the karen travers dlc story. Tales of arise overall is 7.5/10. I couldve rated it higher if the gameplay was more optimized and smooth. The boss fights were more of a survival game than cinematic or memorable. But Im not lying when I say that tales of arise story and worldbuilding is within top 5 of my favorite tales series. So heres a summary Story - Arise Gameplay - Scarlet nexus DLC story - Arise DLC content except story -Scarlet nexus DLC value - Scarlet nexus (Arise DLC is too expensive and not worth it.) Open world - Scarlet nexus Leveling system - Scarlet nexus Endgame content -Scarlet nexus Affordability -Scarlet nexus. They tend to go on 70%-80% discount frequently than tales
I love the Tales franchise but after seeing TOA gameplay and playing the demo I didn't like it at all. Its a great game but not a very good tales game, while the combat was repetitive in Berseria in Arise is feels more like chore. On the other hand Scarlet Nexus is a new IP I was following it close since it was announced and after playing the demo was a must buy for me. The worst part of Scarlet Nexus is the static cutscenes after seing their normal cutscenes the statics are lame. But this something that have in common both games like they tried to implement something different but failed. For the characters in Scarlet Nexus I didn't feel them flat at all. As you develop their friendship you can see how the relationship evolve and then giving them gifts can tell you a lot about their personalities. So I go for Scarlet Nexus for s fresh new IP with a bright future.
Great video man. I played TOA for the first time and loved it. Just bought SN today and have already put in 4 hours. Bandai is killing it with their games.
Dropped Scarlet nexus before finishing it. It started enjoyable and fascinating, but the combat feels samey all throughout. I don't feel anything substantially different with the "other-character-skills". The other different character (edit: male or female) plays substantially the same too. The world is bland too. The items, equips, progressions and other non-action gameplay mechanics are bland and somewhat obligatory only. For me, TOA feels like an actual triple A game, whereas, SN feels like an indie game with Triple A glaze.
dang... just realized i wasn't the only one making the comparison whether to get into Tales of Arise or Scarlet Nexus. i ended getting both a few weeks ago. this, after contemplating for several months. these 2 games (plus The Diofield Chronicle (and maybe Star Ocean: The Divine Force)) serve as transitional games, until these other games come out, God of War Ragnarök, Forspoken, Final Fantasy XVI, Black Myth: Wukong, etc.
Fuck .... I played both hard to decide Tales of arise I m still playing yet to finish but I finished scarlet I am more of a story type of guy so I like hard earned happy endings so tales of arise , plus I like kisara she's my fav , and I also ship alphen x shionne In Scarlett nexus is kinda dark I watched anime also game and anime feel like different timelines lol Scarlett nexus tells you to keep moving even with all the losses and the pain Tales of the arise also has similar message but it's kinda lighter version In combat system scarlet is definitely the superior one Tales of arise the player needs to continuously focus to a perfect combo or most of us do unga bunga and beat enemy But scarlet forces the player to get skilled and unga bunga doesn't work later on Tales of arise has combo ults which is really really cool and flashy as I man I approve it 👍 This is my pov and I haven't finished Tales of arise Problem with tales of arise till where I have played is vholran is not a good antagonist as he did build up the hype but that was not enough But as for scarlet Karen Travers was a godly antagonist he truly pushes the protagonist to be better Vholran on the other hand was op and more badass looking I expected him to be Vergil+ sephiroth oh how wrong was i It's also my fault for putting such big expectation but still he could've been way more better
I love both, but I am conflicted over them. Tales of Arise felt like it really dragged on for me. Especially in the last few dungeons, I just wanted it to be over with. Perhaps I just burned myself out, but still. Though it’s also far deeper and more fleshed out than Scarlet Nexus, which provided a far more tight and focused experience. Really just comes down to preference in the end
i feel the same, scarlet was much better story and characters, i also liked the combat more in scarlet, arise has too much talk and filler plus the characters are too childish and cringe
No you're definitely right about the last dungeon this one really dragged itself for far too long thanks to it's absurd lenght and the barrage of enemies you're forced to fight bc there's no way to dodge them and the last half really was many dungeons back to back, a lot of lore dump and down time where you mostly talk to people before being thrown back for the final dungeon
Its weird because I was loving Arise so much and got most of the game down.. I was convinced it was a masterpiece and was becoming one of my top favs.. Then I dunno.. I was a little under-leveled in one of the last dungeons or so I presume and I just felt burnt out.. So I stopped.. I'm seriously contemplating going back tho now with the other stuff they added with the expansion.. The other game I've been playing more recently.. The story and characters pale in comparison so far but the extremely addictive gameplay almost make up for it.. Its kinda got an YS meets Persona vibe which is very cool.. It should be talked about more
Scarlet Nexus. Enemy design was significantly better (actually reacting to attacks and being less tanky), the dumbass CP system wasn’t implemented, the story didn’t suddenly fall of hard halfway through the game, the combat system never had “down periods” where nothing happened like the AG inevitably produces, the final boss was more engaging, and the main villain actual had a personality, unlike ToA.
I keep coming back cuz I want to find out what happens between Alfin and shionnn and the rest of the gang I played Scarlet Nexus for a couple days just a hour or so at a time and I could not get into it not with how many other games I was playing I was spread thin too between playing with the boys or playing an RPG with a lovable plot and story or Scarlet Nexus with predictable story lines bland exchanges not to mention the world in Scarlet Nexus is so Gray bland and dark . In comparison with TOA with this bright colorful world it's just an easy choice and you learn to like this system if you want to continue the story
My choice between the two is Tales of Arise. That is the more interesting game to me. With Scarlet Nexus, I played it for less than an hour before I got bored and turned it off. I've completed Tales of Arise 4 times now, and am working my way through Beyond the Dawn for the second time currently.
i played ToA. It was my First jrpg. I enjoyed it alot. Has Scarlet Nexus a good Skill and loot system? i like to find new weapons and armor. I like it to try different skill builds. ToA only had different weapons to craft. Armors didnt change the look of the characters. You only could find skins. Should i buy Scarlet Nexus? Ty
I'll go with ToA. Now I do like Sci-Fi of SN and characters as well as Combat System. The story is too short for me. In ToA I really had a lot of lore and mystery. In SN it just felt like a big Exposition Dump and super quick wrap up😑😑😑
@@shushspirit I had a lot of fun with it. I’ve been on a jrpg kick lately and it’s what started it. Lots of fun in the combats if you like devil may cry kinda has those vibes
I would say Scarlet Nexus is better and for a new ip man it made me want a sequel. TOA mechanics don't even apply to boss battles which ruins the combat greatly and story falls offf hard in the 2nd half. I also think the Nexus cast is better implemented into the game too. Scarlet Nexus story premise is also a really interesting and cool concept imo. TOA is alright but i don't think its a great Tales of game in comparison to the older titles of the series personally. Which is preferred comes down to preferences though.
Scarlet Nexus is a DOPE game! No questions about it. However, Tales Of Arise takes the lead on this one. In fact, Scarlet Nexus don't even remotely come close. Alright, I may be going a little too far now lol. But Tales Of Arise is by far a much superior game. In almost every ways. Fucking LOVE Scarlet Nexus though! Too bad I didn't buy it at launch! Poor marketing that's why.
Somehow I've put in over 14hrs into Scarlet Nexus and I still don't really have much of a clue how the combat system works. And, yes, the characters are... so... dull...
Imo, if it is about gameplay wise, it is difficult to compare because they are very fun on their own ways. SN have cool mechanics while ToA have so many explosive flashy move. So imo, ToA is better because SN is lacking on the characters development. Both games have many letdown on the story but ToA is still better. The one that i really like SN more than ToA is the music. All SN ost is such a banger while ToA ost is forgettable. Ah but ToA OP songs is better than SN lol
easy scarlet nexus. And this is a tales of fan telling you that the other game is better. Arise starts out strong but ends up weak in middle and end game story. Battle is fun until you fight bosses then you realize that battle mechanics for arise doesn’t work on bosses at all
Finished Scarlet Nexus and you're right, the combat is awesome. However, by the end I got tired, and the story's ending was too much of a letdown, and talk about convoluted. Fun, nevertheless.
Yeah, I really felt like they tried to do many things at once with the story, and totally get it feeling old by the end. I had to take a break between both campaigns in order to finish it. Thanks for commenting!
I prefer TOA, loved the story, the characters, the battle system, the exploration and the romance. SN can’t keep my interest, just really repetitive and the story is not good enough to keep my interest, after I complete Yuito’s story, I will not play it again. No replay value for me.
In January 2024 it's stupid to just pick one. They are more expensive on their own and just $25 for the bundle. Today there is no choice but to buy them both.
Considering that Tales of Arise doesn't understand why Berseria's edginess worked, and resorts to stupid tropes and ridiculous Mcguffin weapon concepts, Scarlet Nexus is clearly better
I remember having a better time with Scarlet Nexus, but Tales of Arise is also fun 😆 Tales of Arise’s story(so far) seems very cool and iirc I had a good impression of Scarlet Nexus’ story as well I also remember doing alright in Scarlet Nexus, everything eventually flowed smoothly, Tales of Arise however, I still feel like I’m just facerolling every fight 😅
I've experienced Tales Of Arise's combat system firsthand, wow so fluid! When fighting normal enemies, not so much when it comes to Minibosses and bosses though, they can only be staggered by boost skills which was kind of dull, I didn't really like it, especially when the boss' health is like 400k (looking at you Nazamil) or 800k+ (looking at you again Nazamil), in normal difficulty.
My thoughts on both games And who wins each category. Characters: Scarlet Nexus Lore: Tales of Arise Combat: Scarlet Nexus Enemy Design: Tales of Arise Story: Scarlet Nexus (By a landslide) Side Quests: Tales of Arise Character Customization: Tales of Arise Music: Both DLC: Scarlet Nexus And this coming from a long-time Tales fan... I really think Scarlet Nexus is a better game. While Tales of Arise has many redeeming qualities, it doesn't actually deliver that good ol' Tales quality. The characters like any other suffer from the same anime tropes as many other triple A JRPGs, The combat is OK, but the boost strike camera along with the camera for the mystic artes moves so fast, you'll practically have to either be able to follow DBZ levels of movement with your eyes or simple watch them over and over and over again; which with how many hours it takes to complete this game... you will. Scarlet Nexus' monster design is very... constant. The monster end up looking so similar that many times when completing side quests, I went after a monster only to realize I was killing the wrong one because I didn't notice that the alternate had a characteristic that was barely different from the former. This is where Scarlet Nexus suffers. The lore is there in Scarlet Nexus... Just there. Not much to say about it. And while Tales of Arise has better lore, it tends to rely on extremely long exposition dumps quite a bit to inform the player. Character customization is alright in Scarlet Nexus, just better in Tales of Arise. I had more fun with it, is all. Music is good in both games. But the story is where Tales of Arise definitely falls short. If you want to count on your ten fingers how many JRPG tropes the writers copped, then you're gonna need a whole lot more. Borderline femboy protagonist that can't be too masculine or else it'll alienate the female audience? Check. Lost my memory, but I'll eventually get it back only to discover I'm way more important than I initially thought? Check. We can't have actual consequences or sacrifices happen that would make sense in the world we built but will write ourselves into an easy ending with no one dying through the "power of friendship?" Check. Pulling out a surprise villain at the end of the story that no one has ever heard of and the player won't care about just to cap off the story? Check. The list goes on. And while Scarlet Nexus isn't free from any tropes itself, it indulges in them far less often. Tales games of old never used so many tropes to write their way into an easy ending to a situation. Colette contracts a rare disease in Symphonia. What do you think they did? Traveled the world in search of a cure through means that would make sense in the story and world, or... cure her with the power of friendship? If you chose the former, you are correct. This is what was needed in Tales of Arise, and it falls short several times in characters and story. But all-in-all, if you like playing a game with a relatively basic story and... interesting... characters; ToA is your game. If you're looking to immerse yourself into a believable world where fate and consequences are real. Where you don't know who you might lose by the end of the game because you've grown so attached to them with twists here and there, Scarlet Nexus. My thoughts. There ya go. ✌🏼
Probably getting Scarlet Nexus now as it is 75% off (PSN Brasil) and Tales of Arise is still crazily expensive. Played both demo version, but ToA didn’t impressed me as SN which I really enjoyed playing it.
I love everything about Scarlet Nexus, it's an amazing game with great conbat, story and characters. I remember falling asleep whilst playing the demo for Tales Of Arise, so i might not play it. Scarlet Nexus is my most favorite Non-Sonic game and I've not even beat one story yet.
