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Scenario Brief [Airfield Sabotage] M16A1 vs. L1A1 + Trilux SUIT 4x scope (Pick One Ep.4)

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⚔️SCENARIO⚔️: 1982, Falkland Islands / Islas Malvinas
Can you hear it? The nonstop high winds that sting your face with rain droplets. It’s cold. You smell the smoke of burning jet fuel with semtex. You hear a faint chopping sound in the horizon from the blades of a Wessex HU5 helicopter…
It’s been a month since Argentinian troops had occupied the Falkland Islands, and while the Royal Navy dominates the seas, the recent sinking of HMS Coventry to the Argentinian Air Force (AAF) has no doubt emphasised the need to deny enemy air assets.
You are the ranking NCO to a small British SAS reconnaissance team of 5 troopers, and you have a new mission.
Naval Intelligence has identified a small airfield on a northern island with about a dozen aircrafts; of which the six FMA IA 58 Pucarás and four Turbo Mentor light attack aircrafts aircrafts are posing a threat to Royal Marines on their march to the capital Port Stanley.
Your team will insert via kayaks under the cover of darkness onto a beach head about 6miles away (on the NNW of the objective) to establish a observation post (OP) for 48 hours, located within 1km of the objective. You will have limited radio contact with a main assault element, but your team shall confirm that all 10 main aircrafts are grounded prior to the attack. You estimate a company+ of Argentinean soldiers are also in the vicinity providing security to the airfield amongst the AAF maintenance and aviation personnel.
Once confirmed that all targets are on ground, the main element of 40 SAS troops will insert by helicopter from the aircraft carrier HMS Hermes to destroy the objective on ground. Your team will link up with the main element, provide overwatch/ security for the sabotage element, and exfiltrate by helicopter (or kayak, if the landing zone / LZ is compromised / overrun).
If your OP is compromised / discovered before the main assault, you will have to exfiltrate on foot to the shoreside to call in for a hasty helicopter extraction, but there have been extremely heavy headwinds that have already caused multiple helicopter crashes, and the Argentinians could potentially respond with their aircrafts on the air strip that your mission is to destroy.
Local weather is rainy with high winds and the island is relatively flat with gradual terrain change.
Furthermore, the Royal Marines on the march to Port Stanely will unlikely be able to respond immediately in time due to the isolated island and the distance required to march on foot. If your position is compromised it would be best to dig in and defend against Argentinian ground forces.
👉 [Option 1] M16A1 + 240rds of 5.56x45mm NATO
👉 [Option 2] L1A1 / 4x Trilux SUIT + 160rds of 7.62x51mm NATO
Remember that you are packing all communications equipment, 72+hrs of sustenance, and all basic survival equipment. You only have hand grenades, as the main element will arrive with the explosive charges for the objective.
In this episode, we are joined by our British Small Arms expert Mike Burns from the hit channel Bloke on the Range!
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@9HoleReviews 3 года назад

Livestream completed! Please enjoy the discussion with Mike, the British weapon expert from @blokeontherange and Marty, the historian and cable TV show host discuss the scenario here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eE5yut-Dfvw.html

@charliehotelromeo284 3 года назад

The l1a1 over the gen 1 m16

@CloudZ1116 3 года назад

Does this mean we're getting a scoped FAL to 800 Practical Accuracy video soon?

@turkeyhamman4111 3 года назад

I asked him about a dmr style fal reminiscent of the irish fal, he said they had this exact config coming in for a practical accuracy course. So yes.

@supakritpulmanausahakul1650 3 года назад

@@turkeyhamman4111 nice

@ErikLosLobos 3 года назад

With the quality marksmanship on display not sure a scope will make that much difference?!?!

@turkeyhamman4111 3 года назад

@@ErikLosLobos it makes great greater

@turkeyhamman4111 3 года назад

@@chase7354 😐 ok? Assuming that i didn't read the title? Or that the main commenter didn't make the same horrible mistake?

@jackjmaheriii 3 года назад

You’ve got a team, bring both! Give the L1A1 to whoever’s best at shooting movers, and give the other 4 guys M16’s. Also, pray that the bad guys don’t have a helicopter.

@violet8254 3 года назад

Best response I've seen so far, 100% agree if it's an option

@callmecamo2 3 года назад

Beat me to it. 👏

@karas3248 3 года назад

@Robert Sears I think you are underestimating the mist and rain which greatly reduces visibility and overestimating the lack of optics and training of argentinain military

@FromMyBrain 3 года назад

Yeah, not gonna lie, having one SVD dude is not unprecidented. Might even have a ww2 flashback and give all the m16 guys 1-2 l1a1 mags to carry. To a later point, I mean there is no stand and fight obligation here. You are either running to the extract or running distraction on overwatch. You are dug in on an elevated position they are gonna have to take that hill not plink at 800 yards. Or try to plink at you from 800 yards while you are bugging out for extract and if they did that that makes it all the more possible to actually get out. I mean there is a notion that your own standoff is maximised it would be better but your a recon element maxed out with other gear and so you arent going to win a standoff fight with a company charging after you. Just an airsofter talking though.

@capt5656 3 года назад

@Robert Sears If you've let the Argentinians fight you at 800m, you're getting kicked out of SF if you live. Your team has complete initiative, and the fight will likely happen at night, even if you don't get early NV equipment. Speed, surprise and local fire superiority all matter way more than 800m point shooting. Which, by the way, I doubt the Argentinian troops will be pulling off in the best of conditions. Only if your position is bumped would the range of the FAL start to outweigh the M16, but if your position is getting bumped, it won't be by people at range.

@thesuit4820 3 года назад

Henry is odly threatening in an armchair, should definitley be a bond villain.

@PavewayJDAM 3 года назад

@Def Bet All he needs is a cat on his lap.

@josebandiera4468 3 года назад

As an argie, anny FAL variant is all you need. That's why we are still using it after literally almost 70 years... (plz help, we are literally too poor to buy anything else)

@johndaugherty4127 3 года назад

What happened to all of the nazi gold they brought? Spent up, already!? Jk bro.

@Facu_-ji9yc 3 года назад

@@johndaugherty4127 Nope, got stolen by corrupt politician

3 года назад

Kirtchners been naughty I see...

@brandonschwertley2723 3 года назад

Blink in Morse Code if you are being forced to make these statements

@josebandiera4468 3 года назад

@@johndaugherty4127 went to politicians pockets, like most money we made, make, and probably will make in the future

@gangstar8652 3 года назад

My bests mates dad led one of the patrols or attack parties that led the Pebble Island raid Major Tomas James Touché Turtle 🐢. British SAS. I’d take the m16/A1 same as the other SF lads that night. Almost all regular infantry carried the SLR unless they'd taken a full automatic FAL of a dead Argie. His lad, my best mate died suddenly from drug overdose on 22/11/2020 with Thomas Gareth’s father dying of cancer on 29/12/2020. Miss you both guys.

@Almosteasyese 3 года назад

RIP to your mate and his dad , my condolences ❤✊

@goforbroke4428 3 года назад

Gang Star may they be together in happy times!

@gangstar8652 3 года назад

@@goforbroke4428 Why thankyou very much that's very kind. Cheers fella. I miss him dearly, he was an awesome kid and his old mans a legend here in Hereford. Thanks.

@gangstar8652 3 года назад

@@Almosteasyese Than you Snow dude. Only just seen your notification so thanks. Very kind of you friend cheers now.

@gangstar8652 3 года назад

@Ban this youtube I'm sorry to hear that too. I'm lost mate, Gareth was my best pal and I know people say it but he was a one off, an awesome lad. Really didn't deserve what happened and I feel guilty for not being there for him. Thanks man. Don't take your pals for granted everyone as you'll miss them when they're gone believe me. Cheers though dude and hope your mans got his head back in the game.

@9HoleReviews 3 года назад

Livestream will be on Friday March 26th at 5pm /17:00 CST !

@xxxlonewolf49 3 года назад

Stay dry he says...I'm literally on lunch break from snow/rain shotgun range at Ft Leonard Wood... LOL

$@soonerfrac4611$

@soonerfrac4611 3 года назад

Been there, done that, twice. Alpha 787 way back in January ‘01, and again in February of ‘10 for the civilian police academy.

$@soonerfrac4611$

@soonerfrac4611 3 года назад

Ounces equal pounds, pounds equals pain. You can carry more ammo for the 5.55, but let’s be honest, 5.56 is piss poor at long range. And few things in the Falklands are inside the 300m engagement range that the cartridge is designed for. Providing over watch from 1,000m would become problematic at best. The FAL is the primary weapon of both opposing forces, meaning if you need to top off or do a battlefield pickup it’s best to do already have a compatible system than have to rely on a snatching an enemy weapon.

@eporaivai3878 3 года назад

test the new imbel weapons if possible, this ia2 weapon family features a cold forged barrel of various lengths and in 2 calibers, the 5.56 and the 7.62

@affy3298 3 года назад

My napkin math rounded up the nearest .5 to make things easier: L1A1 (unloaded) is ~9 pounds + 160 rounds of 7.62 NATO (25.4g-ish) at ~9 pounds = ~18 pounds of weight M16A1 (unloaded) roughly ~6.5 pounds + 240 rounds of 5.56 (12.3g-ish) at ~6.5 pounds = ~13 pounds of weight So, if pick the M16A1* you receive about 50% more ammo for about 38% less weight. 5 pounds difference of weight is anything but negligible for a patrol that will potentially last up to 3 days. BUT -- and this is a major caveat -- you miss the 4x optic. Optic, optic, optic. I'm not familiar with early 80's optics I imagine they were not great, but serviceable. I think that optic is a major force multiplier for what contact you do get into. Ideally "our" 5 man element is not in anything that could even be remotely described as sustained combat in an area where a company sized element of hostiles exists. I think that 4x optic is going to provide more value in getting in and out alive than 3 more mags of ammo. Although the FAL system being significantly heavier makes my argument a lot harder. I predict Bloke picks the L1A1 for superior British marksmanship, Josh the M16A1 for familiarity, and Henry the M16A1 because he's a lazy American who doesn't want to haul the weight because he loves his knees too much. Edited: M16 not M4 :D

@johndaugherty4127 3 года назад

Its an m16a1, not m4a1?

@affy3298 3 года назад

@@johndaugherty4127 Good find it was a typo! The weight is correct afaik not that the m4 is too far off.

@johnneill5960 3 года назад

You win the Internet today . There's a reason why most modern Army's went to smaller cartridge INCLUDING THE BRITISH who also went to the .556 from the 762x51 . You can carry more ammo is definitely part of the equation! Like I said the M-16 is also a more accurate weapon than the FAL and that HI-LuX scope is a pile of hot garbage at best . M-16 in a no brainer .

@aubrey_d 3 года назад

How much do you think the weight of the projectile would matter with the wind? SS109, at 62 gr was adopted around '80, and it seems like the L1A1 would be using L2A2 Ball, at 144 gr. Day time you can probably call your shots better, but at night, if there's high winds, with irons. I don't know, the L1A1 looks like a pretty good choice to me, with the illuminated SUIT and heavier ammo.

@georgesmith5708 3 года назад

@@johnneill5960 the Trilux was a very good optic at that time, if not the best in it's class. And ...... you may have a lot of ammo but if you do not control your trigger finger and aim (like most soldiers do) you'll waist it in half the time without hitting a single enemy. Trilux will be a precious asset in spotting the enemy too, especially with low light and in the open distance (you are a recon party, don't forget It) as it is tritium illuminated too.

@ketchman8299 3 года назад

L1a1 with scope. Target acquisition and ease of engaging at distance keeping the enemy out of effective return fire range. And since the idea is to NOT get in a firefight, the ability to make the scope do double duty as spotting scope is a plus.

@harryspeakup8452 3 года назад

This. Plus if you do get into any serious use of ammunition you can probably pick it up from your former opponents who also have FALs

@Seelenschmiede 3 года назад

You are on a recon mission, you have binoculars on you anyway.

@roberto125919 3 года назад

in the rain?

@ketchman8299 3 года назад

@@roberto125919 Yes, in the rain. Just like hunting in the rain. Exactly, like hunting in the rain.

@tobyman360 3 года назад

Plus the consideration that the enemy all has FALs which is a pretty rare matchup historically. (m16 equipped warfighters usually face opponents primarily armed with AK variants) You could quite easily get into protracted firefight, with these numerically superior opponents that can out range you. Only being able to punch back with 5.56 in windy conditions, on the open terrain of the airfield creates a real danger of being overmatched.

@scoe5908 3 года назад

Mentioning Royal Marines as you show Paras made me chuckle.

@dazhobson1489 3 года назад

Thats offensive to both of Britain's elite forces🤣

@9HoleReviews 3 года назад

I really should have mentioned RM after the video of the maroon beret!

@johndaugherty4127 3 года назад

'Murica!

@darrenbrashaw8409 3 года назад

@@dazhobson1489 Yep, about 30 years ago I once ended up sitting between members of each in the back of an aircraft, the would speek to me but not each other lol

@MarkJYule 3 года назад

And it was HMS "HermEEz" 🤣

@MellowFellowOfYellow 3 года назад

Optics are one of the biggest force multipliers in modern combat. It's gotta be the L1A1 on this

@romantylutki2310 3 года назад

SLR, because of a few reasons. I think having the optic is a game changer - while yes, the weight adds up, it’s temporary, because as time goes on, some of the equipment will get dropped/used. Reality is that in the Falkland landscape, an optic is a force multiplier.

@PavewayJDAM 3 года назад

But you have optics to OP their airfield with. Probably spotting scopes and/or high end large Binos.

@rayne2714 3 года назад

@@PavewayJDAM you cant use those to engage the enemy with

@dbmail545 3 года назад

Wow! I didn't expect to choose the M16A1 over the L1A1 but the difference in ammo load outs might make the difference between getting extracted or not.

@guntotingnerd8830 3 года назад

But you could resupply from the enemy with the L1A1 as they used FALs as well

@mikepowers4960 3 года назад

This^

@mikepowers4960 3 года назад

@Tickerel My Pickerel you have to make it there first the m16 and load out is pounds lighter. I would love the 7.62 option and the optics are a game changer, but there’s a reason almost all modern military’s carry firearms chambered in 5.56 and it’s not because of the effectiveness of the round.

@bishopsteiner7134 3 года назад

@Tickerel My Pickerel unless you need to penetrate even light vehicle bodies then your m16 is largely spitting in the wind. If all you have to worry about is bullets on meat sub 600m, sure take the M-16. Any chance you need a shot beyond 600 or against something thicker than meat? 7.62 comes in MIGHTY handy.

@guntotingnerd8830 3 года назад

@Tickerel My Pickerel A Shit Sherlock called, First name No? jokes aside yeah but the possibility of resupply Is worth the trade off in ammo, and besides if I need to Exfil I am dropping my pack and anything that isn't necessary so weight becomes less of an issue. But in an assualt on the arifield supported by infantry I would be part of the logistics train, not part of the problem.

@SuspiciousGanymede 3 года назад

Heavy winds, flat land, potential low elevation enemy aircraft. I will pick the L1a1 for optic/increased distance/ increased barrier penetration against aircraft. You can always ditch the scope of it doesn't work out.

@malachimeeker9480 3 года назад

Sounded like the Tactical Rifleman intro!

@jamesloucks8972 3 года назад

Yrah

@mrs.vasquezz 3 года назад

9hole has used that as an outro for a few years

@sithticklefingers7255 3 года назад

Without the mouthbreathing. And without the 372nd guy to say he’s a navy seal telling me what to use for home defense because he went outside the wire once with “THIS setup!”

@johnqpublic2718 3 года назад

I'm pretty sure it is the same, it's just a "stock" radio chatter audio file.

@sd09gfh8sfgjmsf9yhkm 3 года назад

Lol that guys a chode.

@thomassimpson6901 3 года назад

Normally I am big on 5.56 but today I choose the L1A1, because the 4x optic lets you shoot more accurately and more importantly at your target. Good luck spotting your enemy in that terrain without any magnification.

@Trancefreakeh 3 года назад

Since you're a recon team, I believe you'd also have binoculars. Now, shooting... that's another story :)

@roberto125919 3 года назад

At night time?

@vector4632 3 года назад

@@Trancefreakeh The description stated that apart from food, ammo and survival kit, you only have grenades, and your team is carrying only the explosives for the sabotage. So theoretically, you have no binos available.

@johndaugherty4127 3 года назад

@@vector4632 actually he said they are NOT carrying the explosives. They will be brought by the insertion team via helicopter.

@Trancefreakeh 3 года назад

@@vector4632 Oh. Well. Good point, Sir.

@Garbid 3 года назад

Scoped Fal. 1. It has scope!))) it's open space especially airports. Better to have scope for midle range. 2. Caliber. If during operation you will not be able to get close at least you can try to damage planes with rifles.

@a.t.2023 3 года назад

SLR with the 4x scope, hands down.

@calholli 3 года назад

I'd rather have the big dog.. or g3.. or AR10-- If I was alone. Because I would want to stay far away from everyone. In a crew like that, I would want us to have a mix of both rifles.

@andrewgates9333 3 года назад

SLR. Headwinds! If only worried about infantry...m16.

@SuperSneakySniper 3 года назад

M16. Lighter. More ammo. Easier to shoot accurately. Im familiar with it. If fighting breaks out, the goal isn't to beat back a larger force (which would likely end in dramatic failure), rather, it is to hold them off as long as possible. Ammo quantity is far more important than stopping power in this case. Especially at night, when spotting an individual enemy to shoot at with a scoped battle rifle is going to be hard to do, even with an illuminated reticle. Plus the scope is not light.

@rodiculous9464 3 года назад

Nop, magnification is king. Simple as.

@miletello1 3 года назад

Agreed....you're a recon team. You can carry about 2.5X more 5.56 vs 7.62. When compromised as a small unit, you want to appear to be a much larger force while breaking contact. Which means above average ammo expenditure. The 7.62 gun will not benefit the recon mission because the objective isn't direct action, nor would it benefit a compromised team as previously stated.

@johnstacy7902 3 года назад

@@rodiculous9464 I'm guessing you never were in the military

@rodiculous9464 3 года назад

@@johnstacy7902 oh gosh here comes the boomer, go look at what every modern military is running (hint, it's not irons), even SWAT and PDs run magnification for target ID, sorry you're just behind the times

@mrs.vasquezz 3 года назад

If theres enough winds to kill a chopper, 5.56 is gonna be useless

@PltOffPPrune 3 года назад

On the Falklands I'd want 7.62 and an optic any day of the week.

@MorningGI0ry 3 года назад

Obligatory Option 3: Time travel to the first battle of the Falklands and convince Sturdee or von Spee to relentlessly shell and mine any areas on the island where an airfield could be set up in the future. This option elegantly prevents this scenario and also prevents the need for the Vulcan raid against the Port Stanley Airport.

@skepticalbadger 3 года назад

I love this. I badly need a time travel military series.

@Foxtrop13 3 года назад

the vulcan raid was useless

@aloyalspacemarine5761 3 года назад

M16 The scavenging ammo thing isn’t really something you’re going to accomplish if your four man team gets engaged you’re probably going to be booking it for exfill instead of wasting time lingering to collect ammo of of dead soldiers since it’s 4 against company strength with the potential for enemy close air support

@bavarianpotato 3 года назад

Also, if everything goes to total shit and you're in a situation to pick up 7.62 from dead argentinians, you can also pick up an FAL and drop your M16. It's an unlikely scenario, but even then, the M16 really isn't at any substantial disadvantage.

@Dhari1 3 года назад

The SAS was known to often prefer the M16 (I know Henry didn't mention that). But what the SAS carried in that situation is pretty important since you're supposed to link up with them. Ammo and magazines which can be shared is ideal in that situation.

@toddh6541 3 года назад

5 men aren't going to take out an entire company of soldiers. When you dig in your best bet would be suppressive fire. Smaller cartridges means you can pack more with the m16. Since this mission is mainly observational the goal is not to engage unsupported, the lighter more compact weapon with greater ammo reserves gets my vote. M16a1

@SmallHandsBigBite 3 года назад

⚠️Paragraph(s) ahead: You've been warned ⚠️ So since you guys hinted at this scenario after the last one ended, I said "L1A1 with Trilux of course, I'm holding mine as I watched this." However since then I also picked up a similar AR as to what is being offered here - Essentially an M16 A2 clone. After handling and shooting them both and messing with the manual of arms for them both, I have to say that the infiltration would make me biased towards the M16A1, but due to the weather conditions and geographical nature of the operation I would feel far more comfortable, once on the ground, with my L1A1 which I am far better versed in. I suspect these guys would've been trained on the L1A1 as well and for much longer than the AR. I can also take my Trilux off relatively easy if weather conditions make it unusable. The weight between the two isn't anything to scoff at either. With my Trilux on my Aussie L1A1, it weighs 11.8lbs loaded with 178gr, no sling. The AR is about 8-8.5 depending on mag and ammo. I assure you, that IS a substantial difference if you're lugging that around and shooting off hand. Alternatively, in this scenario I find the 7.62 Nato cartidge more dependable in finding my target through this rain and high winds. Thin cover/concealment won't stand a chance. I don't know how long the operation can last and I don't know how it will go, better take my trusty "Daisy". The Trilux optic is a nice convenience at night especially with its illuminated post, for sure, but who knows If i can actually use it effectively with all the good English weather, even during the day. Nice that it's removeable, then. Also, at least I know that my new Argentine neighbors have ammo for me if the opportunity arises.

@TheAutoxgalant72 3 года назад

I'm as comfortable with my Imbel as I am with my A1 clone, so using either isn't really my consideration. You hit the nail on the head for what makes my decision. The Argentinian's use metric FAL's and captured ammo and mags which run fine in the L1A1 making ammunition supply much less of a concern.

@spidermann5000 3 года назад

Could you use the mags of the argentine FALs? Google says they were belgien = metric FAL while the british ones were inch pattern FAL meaning you could not swap mags. Also the ammo would require zeroing in order to make good use of the sight. If the range of the 7.62 come into play you are doomed anyway coz you would be outnumbered. They could supress you and use the number advantage. If I can dictate when and were the battle starts i'd take the M16 with more ammo for less weight. Also these guys were SF and I doubt they had a lack of training with the M16. I'm just a day dream commando tho and day dream commandos need it warm and cozy making the M16 an even better pick coz i could bring more dry socks and still save weight ;) But I'm really glad I dont have to spend 3+ days in the wet cold, kill people and get shot at.

@TheAutoxgalant72 3 года назад

@@spidermann5000 you are absolutely wrong, the metric mags have a smaller lug than the inch pattern, so metric fits in an inch pattern, but not vice versa. If you trim the lug down you can get an inch mag into a metric reciever, which is why I have .308 Bren mags for my Brazilian Imbel made FAL. The British commando's at that time would have used the L1A1 as their primary rifles. In fact it's been reported that British soldiers had switched from the L1A1 and picked up FMAP's since the metric rifles had a full auto setting. Also, look at the terrain of the Falklands, it's very open, very flat, and very windy, one of the few places I'd think 7.62 Nato has a distinct advantage. On top of the mission being based around breaking things, which 7.62 Nato does better than 5.56.

@spidermann5000 3 года назад

@@TheAutoxgalant72 Terrainwise I'd say yes the 7.62 is more suited here but if you fight in the open against a stronger force you're lost. The SF should dictate where and when to fight and if they start at 400m in the open at daytime, coz i doubt you gonna hit much at night with that scope and gun at night. I think close range in the dark is were the SF would shine and then the high volume of fire from a M16 makes more sense. Better maneuverability, faster follow up shots, 30 rnd mags. The punch of the 7.62 is all the L1A1 has to offer and if you really really need one there should be plenty lying around. As for breaking things: these plains do not look like particulare hard targets, doubt they would resist smal arms fire very well and for the weight saved on the L1A1 you could just bring more grenades... anyhow thanks for the lecture of FAL mags, i thought they would be incompatible in both ways. Another thing learned. :D

@boarwilde8805 3 года назад

The L1A1 because as a passionate wild boar hunter i experienced that practically every optical sight is better than even the Idea of using iron sight at night

@Front-Toward-Enemy 3 года назад

Ive experienced otherwise. Many magnified optics preform poorly at night yeah you can sometimes see through the optic but you can’t see the reticle

@nobsherc 3 года назад

@@Front-Toward-Enemy that's an illuminated tritium optic

@Front-Toward-Enemy 3 года назад

@@nobsherc great now you have an optic which you can see the reticle but not the target. id still rather have more ammunition.

@kernmw10 3 года назад

@@Front-Toward-Enemy more ammunition and a lighter loadout.

@marcusblemmings8484 3 года назад

having been trained on both weapons i always favoured the SLR it was extremely reliable and robust and could cope with cold wet conditions. in fairness the SLR and M16 were both great weapons and have stood the test of time, big fan of the channel.

@timoanez4668 3 года назад

Both weapons are great choices, in my opinion is the guy behind the weapon, how good is he.

@Anax89 3 года назад

Well, they're SAS...

@bker5376 3 года назад

@@Anax89 Best of the best.

@crazytwospoons 3 года назад

As the M16 is lighter, it would have to be that for a recce/standing petrol. Not too worried about the loss of hitting power as not planning on getting found. Also if the poo hits the fan, the ranges will be close enough for the 5.56mm to be effective.

@ATH_Berkshire 3 года назад

SLR. If you position is discovered the SLR with optic gives you a far better chance of hitting a vital bit of a parked aircraft. A hit on the engine or gearbox of a turboprop is going to put the aircraft out of service for quite a long time. Your main mission is to ground the aircraft, the SLR gives you an extra emergency way to do it.

@kernmw10 3 года назад

It's flat terrain. Easy to PID a target. Don't forget you have a 6 mile hump to get to the OP. All that extra weight is burdensome. Pounds are pain. Not to mention if you're a recon team you will already have binoculars or spotting scopes to actually do the recon and observation. If shit hits the fan then you'll want to have more ammo to cover an exfil and less weight to move quicker and longer. Remember, you're an SAS recon patrol. You can easily hit targets with iron sights on flat terrain out to 500m. You've trained for this.

@mtyemti 3 года назад

Fal as a Designated Marksman Rifle and M16A1 as the high volume standard battle rifle.

@billmische 3 года назад

Given the terrain - the SLR. It's open ground so take advantage of the increased engagement range.

@ETuss713 3 года назад

But high winds and driving rain....so there goes some of the advantage

@wisewhiterabbit 3 года назад

Plus, if you make the choice, you have a better chance at disabling the planes at a distance 😉

@mrs.vasquezz 3 года назад

@@ETuss713 that same weather will render the m16 to a 150m weapon lmao

@franknbeanz147 3 года назад

@@mrs.vasquezz He has to know that he means trying to do shooting from a distance is useless you'll have to be close either way

@ETuss713 3 года назад

@@mrs.vasquezz no it does not. If you look at the ballistics, within 300m the rounds will be similarly impacted. With high winds and driving rain, you will have poor visibility for any longer range shooting. Additionally, you are there to observe primarily.

@RMAGEDN740 3 года назад

As you said, the terrain is relatively flat, therefore, I'm thinking most engagements would be at moderate ranges. I'm going with the SLR. It has better ranged ability with it's 7.62 nato rounds, and it has a scope for precision.

@kt.2879 3 года назад

Im going w the L1A1. Flat terrain and the ability to shoot farther w less wind effect especially with windy conditions of open terrain. By more time for qrf to get there or extraction. More weight to carry but it would payoff if discovered by the Argentinians. M16s w 55 grn ammo and a 1-12 twist were not long range effective and that round was not stable in any wind.

@superxgaming3983 3 года назад

its funny this video was posted today because i just bought a l1a1 imbel yesterday

@mrs.vasquezz 3 года назад

Stimmy winner

@nathanswensen1183 3 года назад

I've been wanting one of those since I lived in Brazil for two years. What does an IMBEL FAL run these days?

@suzettespencer 3 года назад

I bought a Belgian FAL last week myself. Paratrooper model

@superxgaming3983 3 года назад

@@mrs.vasquezz actually traded for mine

@superxgaming3983 3 года назад

@@nathanswensen1183 best place to look is gunbroker

@Robert53area 3 года назад

This I a simple choice now, your mission is to observe and report, the weapon doesn't matter, take the fal, because it has the 4 power scope. You can do recon with the scope. Your job is not to get into a firefight, but to observe and report. The advantage of the 4 power scope

@Taytayflan 3 года назад

You can also do recon with the binoculars everyone in that team is going to have, since it's a recon op.

@nfreeman98 3 года назад

Like others said you have a team bring both. Since this is a one or the other choice I would lean to the L1A1 with scope. Figuring these tier 1 guys are expert marksman they could be lethal and suppress with greater efficiency and at greater distance with the larger caliber. Especially since you stated weather conditions are high winds. The 5.56 has a serious disadvantage at distance in those conditions.

@londonjolly9174 3 года назад

There's the optics advantage and the fact you'll be doing overwatch for part of the mission, both in favor of the SLR. However, the M16 wins on almost every other measure....Considering two of the three extracts are weight acceptable (obviously kayaks and helis can't lift infinite weight, but you get what I'm saying), I'd take the SLR simply for it's more mission-prudent use.

@tedhodge4830 3 года назад

One clear example where M16 does not win - wind.

@londonjolly9174 3 года назад

@@tedhodge4830 That's true, .308 at range still bucks wind and light cover

@LigerNoir 3 года назад

M16. If I have to shoot my rifle, I'm in deep $#!* Plus, I'm carrying all that equipment and ammo. My back hurts just thinking about it.

@mrs.vasquezz 3 года назад

That 5.56 ammo outweighs the SLR tho

@LigerNoir 3 года назад

@@mrs.vasquezz The SLR has 160 Rounds + steel magazines. Looking at over 5.5 Kilos in ammo/mags plus the over 4.5 Kilos in the rifle and optic. That's 22+ LBS of rifle and ammo. The M16 has 240 rounds around .35 Kilos per magazine for 20 rounders giving you around 4.2 Kilos and a rifle weighing under 3 Kilos. That's around 15.5+/- LBS of rifle and ammo AND you have full auto to suppress the enemy advance if things go ^!^$ up. Your mission is not to fight. It's to observe. I want to carry less weight. And if I NEED to, I want to spit hot lead and disengage as fast as possible. The M16 does that. The Semi-Auto L1A1 does not.

@mrs.vasquezz 3 года назад

@@LigerNoir who said steel mags?

@LigerNoir 3 года назад

@@mrs.vasquezz Standard issue L1A1 magazines are steel. The L1A1 alone weighs more then the Ammo + Mags for the M16.

@mrs.vasquezz 3 года назад

@@LigerNoir lift waits

@joshuawoodward9276 3 года назад

L1A1- it may be heavy, but being able to scavenge ammo if you need some from the opposition is a huge benefit, the SUIT gives the bonus of magnified engagement distances and spotting ability, and finally the 7.62x51 of the time has better range than contemporary 5.56 (assuming the M16 is a 1/12” twist rate)

@TheNapalmFTW 3 года назад

As a brit living in the US, I love your British/HK slant to your videos sometimes. Thanks mate.

@bgh203 3 года назад

I think as the team SGT I would take the M16A1 as well as two of my teammates. The three remaining would then get the scoped SLRs. If possible, I would also have one of the SLR guys trade for an M-60 belt fed too but that is outside of the scope of this video.

@PavewayJDAM 3 года назад

did SAS use M60's?

@bgh203 3 года назад

@@PavewayJDAM I'm actually not 100% sure. To me it seems to be reasonable if they can get their hands on M16s, the can get an M60.

@alexandermagnus82 3 года назад

@@PavewayJDAM Id say they probably used FN MAGs, not sure if they had fielded the Minimi as well yet.

@darrenbrashaw8409 3 года назад

@@PavewayJDAM M60 was used by the RAF on choppers, belt fed would have been L7/8 Jimpy which could also mount the SUIT. As you have came by Kelper the most likley mg would be L4 BREN which can also use SLR mags, but this is an SAS OP, if you are discovered it will be VERY close, most likley sorted by a Fairbairn Sykes or a quick burst from an M16. By the time anyone at the airstrip works out what has happened you will be well away.

@paladynwiecznegostazuzkraj75 3 года назад

I choose M16. Even tho FAL is an amazing rifle. I believe that in this situation when you are not main force and when you are carring so much weight M16 is a better choice

@AdministrativeResults 3 года назад

Tough one. Think I’ll go SLR for this one.

@AYoutubeAccountName 3 года назад

Looking on google earth, there appears to be a fair amount of small bushes and ditches near the airfield that would allow attackers to close the distance. Given the amount of gear that needs to be carried and the potential for drawn out fights I would go for the m16a1 for the lighter load of cartridges. It seems unlikely that an engagement would be on your terms so the range advantage afforded by magnified optics is not certain to help you where the controllability of the m16 would

@Robin6512 3 года назад

both. mix it. remember. it is open flat and very windy terrain. for longer shots you need the l1a1.

@vinni40k 3 года назад

M16 hands down, I'm a FAL fanboy but for this scenario the reduced weight for both rifle and ammo is the winning aspect.

@chzzyg2698 3 года назад

I hate going against ol' trusty, but I'm gonna have to say the L1A1 because of high winds, the force multiplier scope, and large swathes of open land. I know the weight sucks, but sometimes you have to be honest and say it's what you've been training to do.

@c.j.1089 3 года назад

As an avid M16 shooter and owner, I would probably choose the SLR in this situation. The primary reason would be the likely ranges I would be engaging enemies at. The Falkland islands had nearly zero cover except for occasional rocks and rolling hills. The engagement distances were extreme (300-1500meters). I would rather be in a situation where I was carrying less ammunition but had the ability of effective fire. The added benefit of more ammunition with 5.56mm doesn't outweigh the lack of ballistic effectiveness at longer ranges. The optic would be an additional benefit, but the ballistics of the 7.62x51 cartridge would be the primary driver for that choice.

@calholli 3 года назад

I'd rather have the big dog.. or g3.. or AR10-- If I was alone. Because I would want to stay far away from everyone. In a crew like that, I would want us to have a mix of both rifles.

@davejackson2190 3 года назад

Having owned that L1A1 combination many years ago in the UK ( pre Hungerford ) I'd still go for it today over the M16.

@chasecross6063 3 года назад

Easy pick: I take the SLR. Reasons: 1) Terrain is flat and we'll be operating an OP which means engaging targets at distance, and the .308's mass will help offset the wind 2) Since rescue may be delayed by weather in case of compromise, the SLR has ammo commonality with Argentinian weapons, so we could resupply off downed enemies if need be, plus nearby soldiers hearing gunfire won't automatically assume the shooters are hostiles 3) Weight is less of a factor since we're operating from a static position 4) The optic will be a huge force multiplier at the likely engagement ranges, since most hostiles are conscripts operating with iron sights

@blaynemcguire7573 3 года назад

L1A1 for 2 reasons. Scoped for recon can potentially mean leaving a dedicated recon scope off the gear list balancing some of the weight issues. Also the high winds mean that at 250-300+ the 7.62 will be less effected by wind drift compared to the 5.56. It's not a huge difference but in a game where inches matter I'm taking any advantage I can get.

@KnifeCursed 3 года назад

M-16A1. The lighter weight would be more beneficial hiking in and more ammunition on hand if things went wrong. You’re already going to have observation gear in this scenario so the little 4 power optic on a heavier rifle with heavier ammunition would be more of a hindrance than an asset.

@edmundscycles1 3 года назад

Great in theory but this is the Falklands. High wind , flat landscape means that the Argentinian 7.62 FAL will engage you before the 5.56 will be in effective fire range . As soon as you factor in the high wind in the south Atlantic that 5.56 effective range is even less as the drift would be substantial with such a light round . While the 7.62 is heavier to carry with less rounds it has greater chance of reaching the target , with the 4x scope you can compensate better for drift and see more precisely where your rounds are going .

@john88benson 3 года назад

I assume as a SAS member the majority of the sergeant's experience is with the L1A1 or do they conduct an extensive amount of work with the M16? IIRC Falklands is wide open territory, is the Trilux a good optic that can take advantage of that? The Argentinians are equipped with domestically produced FALs, does the L1A1 have a similar report, ie would be harder for them to distinguish your fire from theirs? Are Argentinian FAL magazines interchangeable with the L1A1?

@9HoleReviews 3 года назад

The SAS widely fielded M16's (technically i should have stated that they were Canadian Diemaco), and all British service members would have extensive experience on the SLR / L1A1. Argentinian FAL magazines would feed in an L1A1, but the mags wobble a little more. (L1A1 mags don't fit in the Argy FAL, however)

@humanoidwolf 3 года назад

@@9HoleReviews very awesome content and I will continue to support you guys

@warmonger82 3 года назад

@@9HoleReviews Nope, back then (early 1980's) all UK M16's were made by Colt's. These were mostly model 604's (and a few very early 602's) without the forward assist.

@9HoleReviews 3 года назад

@@warmonger82 i stand corrected, thanks!

@amjones123 3 года назад

@@9HoleReviews I don't think Diemaco had started building ARs then, they were known colloquially as the armalite up to the selection of the Canadian ones in the 90s. I presume they'd be colt ones either from the initial batch or bought later.

@lucasgomez3283 3 года назад

The SLR's 7.62 NATO is definitely gonna help with the engagement distance and the winds that the Falkland island environment provides, that being said with all the weight that they're carrying they would have to go light on ammo. I think the best choice is to give the radio operator an M16 and the rest SLRs.

@jakelilevjen9766 3 года назад

Great premise! I love the format, as it forces us to think about the practical pros and cons of each weapon system. In the end, I think I would choose the M16A1. 1) The primary mission is observation, not engagement. If all goes as planned, not a shot will be fired. Weight becomes a big consideration when it is possible this piece of equipment may never even be used. 2) Knowing that no mission ever goes as planned, I have to assess the usefulness of the weapon system in the given situation. The role of the unit, should they be discovered and forced to fight, is purely defensive in nature, and relies upon their ability to keep fighting as long as possible. In this situation, I am making a judgement call that more bullets is better. My boys can pack more 5.56 rounds than 7.62. Plus, the rifle+scope adds considerable weight over the M16A1. That weight could be converted to even more rounds. 3) The high winds of the area make a higher muzzle velocity more advantageous, as wind will have less time to act on the bullet as it flies, which I am hoping will improve my hit percentages. That being said, I am still a bit concerned that the open terrain will favor the Argentinians, as they will have a range advantage with their 7.62 rifles.

@vector4632 3 года назад

Since we'll be commanding a Recon Mission that is pretty akin to a Ghost Recon: Wildlands mission (You, your small group of friends and God), I want to be VEERY deliberate with movements and pushes to the objective. Because *You're NOT alone* , I will take the Weight Penalty of the FAL with the 4x and use it as a Scouting tool to inform my partners, and a Battle Rifle in case everything goes to shit. And so, in this Pick One episode, I pick the FAL with the 4x Trilux.

@ph5832 3 года назад

The terrain favors the 7.62 round and as a worse case scenario the 7.62 may be able to damage the aircraft if the assault force is intercepted.

@Seelenschmiede 3 года назад

Being on a recon mission, I bet you have binoculars at you anyways. So there is no need for a x4 for scouting.

@roberto125919 3 года назад

LOL your like an office worker no one cares about your opinion.

@vector4632 3 года назад

@@Seelenschmiede The description stated that beyond the ammunition, survival kit and food, you only have Hand Grenades, and the rest of the team is carrying the explosives. I never carried a military survival kit, but I don't think a pair of Binos are included.

@tommyblackwell3760 3 года назад

@@vector4632 For a recon/surveillance mission they'd have at least one pair of binos, and very likely a spotting scope as well, but neither would help if compromised.

@albertmeltser1658 3 года назад

The primary mission is to infiltrate & observe. I'd go with lighter rifle, & a binocular.

@LeminskiTankscor 3 года назад

This was my answer. Lighter rifle and better optics to see. Ideally you don't shoot anyone.

@davidkatz1503 3 года назад

I can see the advantage of the M16 being a lighter platform, but I feel that the magnified optic on the L1A1 is a significant advantage in this situation, less for fighting, but more for surveillance, to be able to identify enemies from longer range and avoid detection, also having more general knowledge of the situation using your magnified optic.

@chadpyle7375 3 года назад

L1A1 All day long! I'm a huge proponent of the M16/M4 but considering the relatively open terrain, distances to targets, .308 round, etc. I'd lean heavily towards the FAL / L1A1 even if it did not have a scope. That 4x Trilux, while not an "ideal" optic choice, is icing on the cake. Ideally, (you) and one other guy would have scoped FAL's and serve as SDM's with the other 3 providing cover / suppressive fire as needed. Cool scenario!

@twdog8106 3 года назад

The FAL would have to be my choice for this one. With the flat terrain, and ranges I’m working at, the extra legs on the 7.62 NATO will pay dividends. Plus the optic would make surveillance significantly easier. The extra weight and lower round count is a drawback, but I think the benefits outweigh the cost. Plus if the absolute worst case scenario occurs, I feel the 7.62 may give me a (admittedly slim) chance against an enemy aircraft.

@adamevans1989 3 года назад

SLR, as the Argies also used the FAL and ammo can be scavenged from them

@rodiculous9464 3 года назад

Very good point and theirs were full auto too if I recall, you could mount the scope on it and use it as an squad automatic weapon somewhat (preferably with a bipod)

@Cube210 3 года назад

"scavaging ammo"

@pangroszek3498 3 года назад

It is beter idea to have a ful auto gun an a twice as much ammo when you are pinned down. Than trying to scavage some ammo. If you will be able to do so you can always trow M16 and take FN FAL

@Deltaworks23 3 года назад

@@rodiculous9464 You're not going to capture an enemy's rifle, mount your scope on it and expect to hit anything without zeroing. PUBG =/= real life.

@patrickgjorven7832 3 года назад

It could also mask your rifle if they sound the same as the enemy's.

@fourthhorseman4531 3 года назад

I like the extended reach of the L1A1 which might give the team the ability to hold off the enemy at longer ranges should the OP be discovered. However, if it turns into a protracted fight to hold that position then having more ammunition, which would be the case with the M-16's 5.56 NATO, would be of great benefit. I'm going to go with the L1A1 and scope because these are SAS who I expect to be excellent marksmen. The scope will be a huge force multiplier for them vs. their enemy who will be using iron sights only and the SAS men are disciplined and will not waste ammunition. Further, when the team links up with the main assault force they will be able to share ammunition. L1A1 for this mission.

@countryboyguns 3 года назад

Given that my primary role, as defined by the briefing, is observation vs assault, I would choose the M16. Though there are many contingencies, and the 308 has an optic, I would choose the lighter, more choose quarters rifle due to the increased ammo capacity, the mission I'm assigned, and the already cumbersome load of gear and supplies I'm already going to have to carry. Aside from the choices and the arguments between the options, I love these videos and I get super excited every time I see a new pick one video in my feed. Please keep these coming because they're so much fun!

@petesheppard1709 3 года назад

I'll go with the L1A1 due to open terrain. While the overall load looks heavy, the team will be in a relatively static position. If exfil is necessary, most of it can be ditched, so ammo load isn't such a factor. Besides, there's commonality with Argentine forces.

@Szalami 3 года назад

SLR - out of pure, unconditional love towards my raifu.

@kylebrennan5081 3 года назад

L1A1 Yes it's heavier but that cartridge and optic gives you a better tactical advantage. You can shoot further easier against the high winds. It could potentially take less bullets to kill the enemy. The optic allows you to observe more easily which would aid in giving an accurate adrac. As well as giving yourself better correction for affect on targets. Yes it's heavy, but I know it's the better choice.

@mpeugeot 3 года назад

It's the L1A1 without a doubt. True, I won't be able to carry as much ammo if I am hauling full kit, but that assumes that I must carry all other supplies, when there are opportunities to secure supplies once on the ground either by force or other creative means of acquisition. The M16 lacks the necessary punch and you are expected to be provided overwatch.

@andrestimmermanis7346 3 года назад

The mission is an observation mission, where the only engagement will be a defensive one if discovered. I’m assuming the main force has the materiel to blow the planes and ammo etc. With flat, clear terrain, stand off suppression capacity becomes important. The blustery conditions added to this means the L1A1 has to be in the kit.

@modernrambo2 3 года назад

L1a1, wider open area. Take advantage of the harder hitting round and the longer engagement range.

@Niklas.K95 3 года назад

You are planning for the event of a failure

@modernrambo2 3 года назад

@@Niklas.K95 What do you mean. The scope can assist in target acquisition and recon.

@Niklas.K95 3 года назад

@@modernrambo2 only if you are expected to shoot it at longer ranges. The mission itself plans on going in with reinforcements and at 200m maximum. In 90% of the time less weight will be important.

@leosaur_4012 3 года назад

Well I'm far from an expert but I'd have to pick the M16. Light weight with a cartridge that performs relatively well in high winds (at least within 300 meters) and more versatile. Though that optic would be nice for the open terrain.

@terrygatewood340 3 года назад

High winds flat range small team , I think you have to keep your larger enemy a bay until help , 762

@Hellvoisin 3 года назад

L1A1, I like a fat one ounce in a while

@scottwarner2146 3 года назад

optics suck in driving rain and I'm lazy so the lighter M16 gets my vote

@padre2275 3 года назад

Back in the 70's while cross training with the British Royal Marine Commandos, we swapped gear and rations quite a lot. The Brits were always more than happy to tote our M-16's and let us lug around their L1A1's. Although the M-16 fires a much smaller bullet (5.56mm) versus the 7.62mm cartridge, the weight difference was always a big factor when a lot of ground had to be covered and your ruck sack was already stuffed with your own body weight in extra gear. The L1A1 is a good battle rifle for sure, but I remain loyal to my M-16.

@MrKlashmaster 3 года назад

If the primary objective is recon, I would say M16A1. The 4x optic is definitely advantageous as well as the power of the 7.62 battle rifle. But carrying an 90-100 pound Bergen on top of ammunition, filled to the brim with food, and mission essential equipment like spotting scope, extra radio batteries, extra ammunition, etc. All of this adds up. Plus adding in the factor of a hasty exfil means remaining not only light enough, but not fatigued to the point where one cannot fight as effectively. Training is far from a factor, as the SAS have been employing the M16 pattern rifles for some time. And in terms of local resupply, it sounds generally ill advised, given the mission. The M16 is a lighter platform that preforms the duties of a service weapon very adequately. And it would afford me some extra ammunition which is always a good thing.

@buliwyf3236 3 года назад

I will always take a reliable .308 over 5.56! Weight be damned!

@shawnpappy1538 3 года назад

L1A1 with the 4X. Flat, open terrain seems more suited to the 7.62. With the enemy using the same caliber re-supply may be a little easier.

@williamwalton1301 3 года назад

L1A1 would be my first choice. Why? For the four power scope and .308’s range. This type of mission was almost in the Barrett’s operational window but it missed it by a few years. American SF (among others) have used the .50 bmg platform with penetration rounds to disable assists on the ground and that capability could have greatly simplified this operation. I would have brought two of them along with thermite charges to destroy the guns after I disabled the aircraft. That however isn’t the question being asked. I stick with my previous answer strictly because initial contact is not desired and the optic provides a big advantage even at the cost of extra weight. Love what you guys are doing and I’m proud to be a supporter!!!

@Aarnessable 3 года назад

Realistically as element leader I'm going to be carrying extra maps, spotting scopes, and comms. I'm taking an M16, I can be relatively accurate out to 350-500 m, plus carry double the amount of ammunition as an SLR. No optic is a big loss. However, it's not like I wouldn't have binoculars and a spotting scope so I can still PID and see the enemy, then direct area affect fire even without perfect sight picture. This gives the added benefit that when we link up for the assault I'm not running in to relieve CQB distances with a fixed 4x optic on my rifle.

@GreenBeretUSA 3 года назад

Was this the raid on pebble island airfield?

@rosshanley8398 3 года назад

Well spotted. I also immediately recognised it as the Pebble Island raid. History shows us that they went in with the M16A1’s, some fitted with M203’s, and the mission was regarded as a complete success with 1 killed and 1 wounded.

@kensin7244 3 года назад

@@rosshanley8398 They assault team also went in carrying 3 mortar bombs each and 200 rounds of linked for the GPMG's for the support/'heavy' weapons part of the assault force ;-D

@rosshanley8398 3 года назад

@@kensin7244 correct. BTW I was mistaken when I said 1 was killed. There was 1 wounded on the assault team and one killed among the 150 defenders.

@julianframe6683 3 года назад

I'm a brit L1A1 👍😃🖖

@bennettmay9283 3 года назад

For this specific mission I personally think the .30 cal battle rifle with a 4x optic would be a much more effective choice than the 5.56 M16a1 with iron sights. The soldiers with their L1A1s would be able to reach out and touch the enemy from much farther away, which would allow them to remain hidden in cover longer (the main thing keeping them alive). Also the 7.62 ammo would do much more damage to the Argentine aircraft than the 5.56 if they decided to engage those targets.

@supaflyho24 3 года назад

I would need the magnification over this kind of range, so SLR for me. I feel like SAS would go M16A1 cause it suits the main objective of getting in, blowing shit up, and getting out better than the SLR imo.

@andrewjohnston4127 3 года назад

@ 0:30 sorry where? Never heard of it 😁

@Niklas.K95 3 года назад

"Alsace-Lorraine? Never heard of hear." *-angry Bismarck noises-*

@jordanbuck2332 3 года назад

L1a1 it's better at long range with the 762 NATO

@Cube210 3 года назад

You've never used one have you?

@Blackhawck50 3 года назад

M16a1. Quicker at close range (During airfield raid) due to lower recoil & weight. More ammo if you need to dig in allowing greater duration of fire over the L1a1.

@alfe1402 3 года назад

The weapon you use depends on your position and task inside your team. Tell me what you do, I tell you what to use.

@richardcunhacomedy 3 года назад

I am really looking forward to the live! However, Bloke has extensive training and experience with the SLR, his choice is super obvious :D I hope he surprises us tho.

@Scott079 3 года назад

M16A1 between being significantly lighter and being able to carry more ammo I’ll take it all day

@faltadememoria 3 года назад

My choice is fight for the Argentine army with a "Fabricaciones Militares FAL" .

@deltaorion4826 3 года назад

L1A1 Having extra scopes to view the airplanes with is useful, the strong winds means light bullets will be off trajectory, and if you are caught you will be digging in to survive. So trying to snipe from a distance is safer. While you have to carry the rifle to the location, you don't need to lug it around after.

@stackscustominc1 3 года назад

The fal no question, the terrain of the Falkland Islands lends itself to being a much better option then adding an optic just compounds it. An 800m shot is a highly probable possibility if discovered

@Tito_Viera 3 года назад

I almost can feel the torment on my foots by thinking on marching with all these weight and a sturdy leather pair of combat boots.

@92naz32 3 года назад

M16A1 because of the lighter weight of the rifle. The 5.56 ammuntion also allows you to carry more rounds of equal weight to 7.62. Live the L1A1, and both rifles are quite accurate, but onces matter on the type of mission the SAS troopers were assigned.

@nadams01_65 3 года назад

I would much prefer the SLR almost solely because the optic would make identifying enemy troops much easier.

@ehns9462 3 года назад

I’d choose the M16 for sure. The lighter weight 5.56 means I can carry twice as much ammunition than I could for the 7.62 NATO L1A1. Sure stopping power might be less, but realistically if I were to be engaging targets defensively (and the whole point is to NOT engage the Argentinians until the strike force arrives) it’d probably be at 200-400 yards, and the lower 5.56 recoil means very quick follow-up shots if someone doesn’t go down after one hit. Sure, the scope would be helpful at that range, but since I have more ammo available, not every shot needs to count. Also, after dozens of hours marching/watching/standing guard, fatigue would be a real factor no matter how hard you train, so using a lighter rifle would be ideal in that scenario. And finally, if I got there and realized “Bugger, I should have brought the FAL!!” I can liberate one from an Argentinian, can’t get an M16 in the field if I change my mind.

@calebredmon6319 3 года назад

I would prefer the L1A1. Simply because of the scope. Target identification is an extremely useful element in my opinion, and also in terms of reliability I would take the SLR any day over the M16A1 (and specifically the A1). The only positive thing to say about the M16 is that it is lighter and you could carry more ammo which might be needed if you’re a recon team going against a company sized element. Lastly, if you’re on a flat island, I would want the 7.62x51 in order to engage targets at an extended range and also the 7.62 is going to be good for light armor/barrier penetration since your target will be a defensive position.

@JohnTBlock 3 года назад

Since the mission is recon for a larger strike force, your weapons are defensive in nature. So weight is your main factor. With all the other kit required, I would think more bullets better, and lighter w/ the M-16... but I'm just a chair-borne commando who might get a 100 meters with a full ruck...maybe! 😎

@tylerplayswithfire3284 3 года назад

I feel like given the distance and the mission at least one person with a .308 and an optic would be very beneficial. Being able to reach out further bump the wind better and identify in bad weather would out weigh the draw backs on one man having less ammo.

@williamflowers9435 3 года назад

I think the weight savings of the M16A1 combined with twice the ammo for the same weight makes the choice obvious. You’re not there to pick off enemy targets at 600-800m, thus negating the major advantage of the L1A1