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Regular viewers will be aware of Simon's assertion that there is no such thing as a Schrödinger cell.... starwarigami makes a mockery of this with a sudoku called Schrödinger's Killer! This is really witty and innovative and James Bond might even make an appearance (!). Play the puzzle at the link below:
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Place the digits 0-9 in the grid so that every row, column and 3x3 box contains every digit exactly once. To enable this, there is a single Schrödinger cell in each box, containing a superposition of two different digits. Every Schrödinger cell contains a unique pair of digits. No Schrödinger cell can see another Schrödinger cell by a Queen's move in chess (i.e. any distance horizontally, vertically or diagonally). Digits in a cage may not repeat and must sum to the indicated total. Schrödinger cells contribute the average of their two digits to the cage total.
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@starwarigami
@starwarigami 2 года назад
Thanks for another feature, I made these puzzles just for you! Hope you enjoyed them
@victusinambitus
@victusinambitus 2 года назад
STUNNING! Just stunningly clever to take up Simon's challenge like this and deliver. Thank you Starwarigami!
@richardfarrer5616
@richardfarrer5616 2 года назад
I'm not good enough to set sudoku but I've been wanting to see exactly this puzzle ever since Simon started commenting on Schroedinger cells. Thank you. Next challenge - a 3 in every corner.
@f.b.jeffers0n
@f.b.jeffers0n 2 года назад
I mean, wow...
@realgod1002
@realgod1002 2 года назад
This was an insane puzzle. i am interested in what else u can pull off with those Schrödinger's Cells. kinda digging that idea
@venomthegirl2006
@venomthegirl2006 2 года назад
PLEASE tell me the 007 was intentional (to be the killer)
@jesperwillems_
@jesperwillems_ 2 года назад
I genuinely think this is among one of the best sudoku I’ve ever solved. Never did i get completely stumped, the puzzle always made sure the next step - or at least where the next step was - was easily deductible. The shrödinger cell rule broke my mind at first, but after a few minutes of thinking it became very intuitive, and after solving left me with a feeling of accomplishment and astonishment. 10/10 would solve again
@starwarigami
@starwarigami 2 года назад
Thanks for the awesome feedback!
@alainculos9294
@alainculos9294 2 года назад
Indeed I agree, after an initial rethink it became quite intuitive. Beautiful.
@kaliciusername
@kaliciusername 2 года назад
How much time did it take?
@olima-
@olima- 2 года назад
The new secret: Each row, column and box sum up to something between 36,5 and 44,5.
@RL-gl8qg
@RL-gl8qg 2 года назад
Simon, this is why I spend some time with you every day: Puzzle: Knotty problem Simon: (Gleeful laughing) "That's very annoying!" Puzzle: Seemingly insoluble problem Simon: (In tones of rapturous joy) This is ridiculous! Puzzle: Impossible question Simon: The answer is - I don't know. (Narrates several universally applicable problem-solving techniques) Wow! This is just beautiful.
@sniper1a259
@sniper1a259 2 года назад
Puzzle: naked single Simon: I don't think this is resolved
@andrewmonteleone4323
@andrewmonteleone4323 2 года назад
Simon, in the future this “Schrodinclature” may make it easier to separate your ands from your ors 04: zouro 06: six 12: twone 13: threene 14: fourne 24: fwo ( or twour if you like) 57: fiven 78: eighven 79: nineven. 007: The G.O.A.T If you don’t respond, I’ll assume you simultaneously approve and disapprove. Great Solve! Thank you
@TomHickey
@TomHickey 2 года назад
This was so great! Seeing Schrödinger's cells in use whilst also seeing zeros in the grid was just a delight. This application of the Schrödinger's cell in tandem with the zeros to maintain the secret is so elegant. It would seem that approach could be applied in a variety of ways. I'm no setter, but I can't help imagine them in all sorts of places now... Schrödinger's cells on thermos, in arrow bulbs, on German whispers lines (simultaneously being the next 2 jumps in polarity), oh my.
@iabervon
@iabervon 2 года назад
Every cell on an Austrian-Irish whispers line must be at least 5 away from each adjacent cell, although it may also be closer than that.
@maljamin
@maljamin 2 года назад
Frankly I'm a little scared. Nobody tell Phistomefel about Schrodinger cells.
@joeloedeman5160
@joeloedeman5160 2 года назад
Poor Simon! Constructors are purposefully creating puzzles to break his brain!
@bertbergers9171
@bertbergers9171 2 года назад
I think you need not to worry too much about, he is loving it!
@jamessweatt985
@jamessweatt985 2 года назад
I can imagine him 60 years hence, sitting in a nursing home, muttering, "And then one of them was cheeky enough to create Schrodinger cells!" The nurse comes along and asks whether he wants fish or chicken for supper, and Simon replies, "I haven't a Scooby Doo."
@bethelliot7140
@bethelliot7140 2 года назад
@@jamessweatt985 🤣😂😂
@lomax343
@lomax343 2 года назад
Schroedinger's cat has eighteen half-lives
@davidwalker4057
@davidwalker4057 2 года назад
A radioactive cat has 18 half-lives
@inspiringsand123
@inspiringsand123 2 года назад
Rules: 05:42 Let's Get Cracking: 07:59 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Bobbins: 1x (24:15) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Schrödinger Cell: 64x (00:27, 00:43, 06:12, 06:16, 06:18, 06:27, 06:35, 06:43, 07:02, 08:06, 08:10, 08:15, 08:18, 08:32, 08:34, 08:36, 09:13, 09:20, 09:33, 09:36, 09:41, 09:43, 10:04, 10:09, 11:38, 12:44, 12:56, 14:21, 14:26, 14:30, 14:32, 14:35, 14:45, 14:56, 15:02, 15:08, 15:24, 15:34, 15:42, 15:47, 15:54, 15:56, 15:59, 17:28, 21:51, 23:26, 23:46, 29:02, 29:29, 29:40, 29:44, 35:36, 36:10, 36:41, 37:03, 37:35, 42:31, 42:51, 43:13, 43:38, 47:38, 48:59, 49:32, 50:20) By Sudoku: 8x (14:48, 14:50, 15:14, 27:52, 43:50, 44:38, 45:55, 45:58) Hang On: 8x (12:33, 12:50, 21:07, 23:32, 24:57, 36:35, 36:37, 36:42) Clever: 7x (19:34, 19:34, 31:12, 31:20, 38:34, 49:59, 50:00) Beautiful: 5x (03:59, 08:46, 14:28, 37:09, 39:53) Secret: 4x (13:28, 13:28, 13:51, 13:51) Obviously: 4x (05:06, 06:39, 25:49, 39:58) Good Grief: 2x (38:34, 46:03) Sorry: 2x (40:16, 49:58) Lovely: 2x (14:42, 30:47) Gorgeous: 2x (19:35, 25:37) Magnificent: 2x (11:49, 46:06) Stunning: 2x (46:09, 46:12) Useless: 1x (22:37) Goodness: 1x (46:20) Bother: 1x (27:44) Apologies: 1x (02:50) The Answer is: 1x (30:13) Missing Something: 1x (10:20) Stuck: 1x (03:49) Horrible Feeling: 1x (40:42) Brilliant: 1x (01:29) Break the Puzzle: 1x (31:56) Going Mad: 1x (24:47) Shouting: 1x (01:24) In Fact: 1x (30:52) Whoopsie: 1x (40:16) We Can Do Better Than That: 1x (44:23) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Forty Five (12 mentions) One (85 mentions) Red (2 mentions) Antithesis Battles: Odd (4) - Even (3) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn!
@ilonachan
@ilonachan 2 года назад
Good bot, also I think Schroedinger Cell is now top tier wouldn't you agree
@falquicao8331
@falquicao8331 2 года назад
50 mentions lol
@pouletbelette
@pouletbelette 2 года назад
🤣 64 times!
@antivilff
@antivilff 2 года назад
"this is not x OR y, it is x AND y" can you count that ?
@headoftss
@headoftss 2 года назад
I grinned all the way through this. Utter madness. Loved it.
@01evansa
@01evansa 2 года назад
I wondered how long it would be before a clever little sausage managed to shoehorn a 0 or a 10 into a sudoku puzzle 👍👍👍
@IsYitzach
@IsYitzach 2 года назад
It already happened. I don't recall when. But it has been a while.
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 2 года назад
Holy cow! Just say something is impossible and someone will find a way to do it!!! This is great!!
@henrihell
@henrihell 2 года назад
You ma'am, just stumbled upon pretty much the definition of science. Any current "scientific fact" is only true because no one figured out how to disprove it yet. Some of it may never be disproven, but we can't prove that it can't be proven wrong in the future, so we can never absolutely say it's a fact.
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 2 года назад
@@henrihell thanks, but change the "sir" to "ma'am" 😉
@kikikolar6249
@kikikolar6249 2 года назад
@@longwaytotipperary ok ma'am
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 2 года назад
@@kikikolar6249 😄
@henrihell
@henrihell 2 года назад
@@longwaytotipperary it is done :D
@OutstandinglySteve
@OutstandinglySteve 2 года назад
We have finally reached normal sudoku rules don't apply.
@ClemensKatzer
@ClemensKatzer 2 года назад
well, that one we had 4 days ago...: "Normal Sudoku Rules CANNOT Apply" (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2tgiH5QldMM.html)
@andymitts251
@andymitts251 2 года назад
Looking forward to seeing Schrodinger cells becoming a regular thing. Combining it with thermos seems especially tantalizing.
@ahouyearno
@ahouyearno 2 года назад
can you imagine a 36 cell between a 4 and a 5 ... that would be wonderful
@deelkar
@deelkar 2 года назад
Simon: "There is no Schrödinger's Cell in Sudoku!!" -- Starwarigami: "Hold my beer" :)
@olivermadsen9375
@olivermadsen9375 2 года назад
I have waited so long for this. No longer will Simon be able to say "Shrodinger cells are not allowed" and similar in Sudoku. ^_^
@altcommand
@altcommand 2 года назад
I mean, he will be able to, but it will now have to be coupled with, "at least, not in this puzzle".
@samanthajames-cooper5529
@samanthajames-cooper5529 2 года назад
I have to say I often struggle with these puzzles Simon does - but this one I wrapped my little brain right around - made a nice change! :0)
@th.nd.r
@th.nd.r 2 года назад
An incredible concept and execution from starwarigami! And Simon, what an impressive solve! The mental algebra there was ridiculous, well done. I hope to see another Schrödinger sudoku in the future!
@lainverse
@lainverse 2 года назад
"Zero by sudoku goes there." That's probably the most sudoku-unsudoku phrase I've heard.
@blahhblaah74
@blahhblaah74 2 года назад
Sudon'tku is the phrase you are looking for 🤣
@melaniehall5885
@melaniehall5885 2 года назад
I started following this channel around 4 months ago. Never in my life would I have thought I could have solved a puzzle with a ruleset as crazy as this, but after watching the first couple minutes of the video, I decided to give it a shot and got 84:55 !
@starwarigami
@starwarigami 2 года назад
Well done! Thanks for giving it a go
@richalsop
@richalsop 2 года назад
Waiting for Simon to realise the 12 schrodinger cell sees the 123 in the 9 cage....
@cookiequeen5430
@cookiequeen5430 2 года назад
Omg why do I scroll through the comments while watching...
@AvatarBowler
@AvatarBowler 2 года назад
Same. 😂
@pfote65
@pfote65 2 года назад
When the first sudokus with wave functions show up, I will be out
@LixLorn
@LixLorn 2 года назад
this might be my favorite video and my favorite puzzle I've seen so far! it was a joy to see you steamroll through this, while steaming from the ears at how the ruleset was melting your brain! Here's hoping other setters make some more like this one. :)
@Coyotek4
@Coyotek4 2 года назад
WOOHOO ... my name was pronounced correctly! (That was truly an exceptional puzzle hunt!)
@wosc
@wosc 2 года назад
I was so excited upon reading the video title! And I was not disappointed, the puzzle offers a really well done realization of the "Schrödinger cell" mechanic -- and the solve was brilliant as well.
@painedragon128
@painedragon128 2 года назад
Would Mark be willing to also do a video on this or maybe another puzzle that Simon has done. I think it would be interesting to see the difference in logic trains on the same puzzle.
@HienNguyenHMN
@HienNguyenHMN 2 года назад
It's just amazing how quickly Simon picked up the logic (despite his apologies that he doesn't).
@AuntyAwesome
@AuntyAwesome 2 года назад
Omg I've been wating for this since a comment weeks ago mentioning this incredible idea 😂😂😂😂 good luck to you Simon, I think I'll sit this one out..
@hotwheelsnholdem4873
@hotwheelsnholdem4873 2 года назад
such as the staples EZ button says "that was Easy" when you press it, I hereby call for Simon Says button that says "That was annoying" when pressed. make it happen CTC
@aere481
@aere481 2 года назад
Absolutely loved this puzzle. The logic was so different, very intricate, and just awesome. I would love to see more of this type. I was able to solve this without uniqueness of pairs, but it involved a lot of math to restrict cells.
@Irrlichtwinter
@Irrlichtwinter 2 года назад
Oh wow! The first complex sudoku-puzzle that I actually managed to crack! It only took me.... four hours. Hmmm. Is that a compliment to the sudoku, or a reflection of my stellar solving skills? xD Jokes aside, the sudoku is great fun! I especially appreciate that so many killer cages were given, that emboldened me to try to beginn with. And the solving path was challenging, but possible to solve (even if you are a logic-null like me). Thousand thanks to the setter!
@faddy91
@faddy91 2 года назад
I got a little giggle when I checked my answer "😧 Uh, Oh! 😧 That doesn't look quite right!" as it lights up only the Schrodinger Cells. Yes software, it doesn't look quite right... but it is.
@SailSmBi
@SailSmBi 2 года назад
I have been hoping for a puzzle with a Schrödinger cell for so long! What a nice difficulty level, hard but once you get your head around how the Schrödinger cells affect the cage totals it solves really nicely. I totally missed the unique Schrödinger cell rule so I struggled more than I needed to but still managed to get through it.
@theunwelcome
@theunwelcome 2 года назад
Sven needs to catch up now, the software needs to check for Schrodinger cells! I don't know this for sure, but I think the Schrodinger queen's move rule is inherent to the puzzle, because if you lined two of them up in a row or column that would put 11 digits into that row or column
@s_damen4140
@s_damen4140 2 года назад
Yes that works in the sense that you couldn't have them a rook's move from one another, however the logic of having eleven digits in a row does not limit it's diagonals as far as I can tell and as obviously shown in the video, the diagonals where imperative to the solution or at least solving of this puzzle as that unlocked the positions of about half of the Schrodinger's cell's in the beginning stages of the puzzle, however if there is a way of deducing that the Schrodinger's cells cannot be a bishops move apart from each other besides the setter just saying so as a rule please stand to correct me
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 2 года назад
That doesn't follow. You can easily create an arrangement of Schrödinger cells that has one in every row, column and box but does _not_ obey the queen's move rules and has some cells that see each other diagonally. That wouldn't break the rules of having the digits 0-9 once each in every house.
@balthazarbeutelwolf9097
@balthazarbeutelwolf9097 2 года назад
Duplicates in diagonals are not ruled out by this though. The queen's move rule aligns the Schrödinger cells like the queens in an 8-queens puzzle, except that we have here 9 of them, so it's also a 9-queens puzzle.
@altcommand
@altcommand 2 года назад
Doubtful. There would need to be a new input method for Schrodinger cells, to start with.
@jamessweatt985
@jamessweatt985 2 года назад
So, rook's move restriction would be inherent to the puzzle. Unless some other 5th-dimensional setter decides to take that as a challenge. ; ^ )
@Swisswavey
@Swisswavey 2 года назад
What a brilliant puzzle. Twice I had to back track massively to correct mistakes born from forgetting the rules (usually the 0) but got there in the end, 70 minutes. I loved it although it scrambled my brain for long periods.
@christophstahl8169
@christophstahl8169 2 года назад
There are no Schrödinger cells in sudoku.... but there are now. This was a fantastic treat, such a joy to solve. It felt new and strange but it let you utilize all the normal sudoku skills, if you bend them a little. That made my day. Additionally this is a good time to once again praise the app. Just like Simon, I didn't have to think about the technical aspect at all. You just naturally colour the Schrödinger cells. The app is magnificent and solving these hard puzzles a joy. Again: wonderful puzzle starwarigami, thank you very much for that.
@peterkelley6344
@peterkelley6344 2 года назад
Starwarigami, I can not believe you've done it. WOW. You deserve a full note in Sudoku history. Maybe we need a few more ... ... ...
@starwarigami
@starwarigami 2 года назад
I have another puzzle using schroedinger cells on logic masters Germany that may get featured one day, but I'm aware of at least one other big name setter that is working on their own puzzle based on this idea, so watch this space!
@_-_-Sipita-_-_
@_-_-Sipita-_-_ 2 года назад
56:59 for me. schrodinger cells made summing a lot harder, and i was forgetting i was playing with zeros
@anshumanmohapatra2432
@anshumanmohapatra2432 2 года назад
It's actually a very famous problem in computer science in backtracking called the NQueen problem which actually makes very easy to find all the schodinger's cells
@donaldsnyder1543
@donaldsnyder1543 2 года назад
Brilliant puzzle concept , perhaps Simon should refrain from challenging people 😆.
@reubenmckay
@reubenmckay 2 года назад
Wow! A beautifully executed contruction and subsequent solve by Simon. Will be very interesting to see how other constructors integrate this variant with others. Woe to Simon the day Phistomephel makes one of these....
@TomGalonska
@TomGalonska 2 года назад
With this and Sudon'tku, 2022 has started incredibly strong. If the rest of the year is half as good as these, 2022 will be a good year for puzzle-enthusiasts. Great solve!
@NFSHeld
@NFSHeld 2 года назад
At this point, people are just creating puzzles to throw all the "known" rules of Sudoku over board one after another. So whenever Simon drops a knowledge bomb such as "there is no Schrödinger's cell", this gets created. I'm waiting for a puzzle breaking algebra where the sum of 1-9 is no longer 45. 🤣
@flabort
@flabort 2 года назад
Well, novice setter with only one uploaded puzzle here, but I can give it a try. It's an interesting idea, maybe.
@Anne_Mahoney
@Anne_Mahoney 2 года назад
Well, there was the base-13 puzzle on Patreon some while back, where what we call XLV is written 36 and 45 equals LVII.
@kana2112
@kana2112 2 года назад
I actually have an idea for that which includes negative numbers, but I don't have any clue how to set a puzzle like that without a computer for help.
@NFSHeld
@NFSHeld 2 года назад
@@kana2112 Even with negative numbers, the sum of any given fixed set of digits will always be a fixed sum, obviously. Plus the programmer(s) of the Sudoku App will probably hate you for negative numbers haha. But for the mental off throwing, having a different sum than 45 might work a little. I had a different idea. You have 9x9 grid, numbers 0-9, where box n contains all digits except n (so no 3 in box 3 for example). Therefore you also know one row and one column will have no three in them. But you don't know which. You know only the sums of the boxes. If you just say "each digit from 1-9 is missing once, only one missing digit per box" it's even less restricted. Not quite sure what style of hints could help you deduce the right solution though.
@janeflett4971
@janeflett4971 2 года назад
LOVED this puzzle, very clever idea, but not too hard once you get how it works. Thank you
@dolf370
@dolf370 2 года назад
An extra little bonus is the thumbnail with Schröderinger's Cat wanted Dead _&_ Alive.
@LithmusEarth
@LithmusEarth 2 года назад
More Schrodinger Puzzles Please! 6 Minutes in, isn't in box 9, the total of the box summing up to 34, which would mean the final space is 11 (Row 7, Column 8) which means it's probably 2 digits that sum to 11 like a 5 and a 6. 15 Minutes in, okay, so I will see you've claimed the Column 9, Okay, When we get there. 16 Minutes in: Try 0 and 6 for a "3" that is my guess. and also the 123 triple, the row 4 sees a 1 and a 2 in the other red cell so it can only be a 3. 18 Minutes in: Try 0 and 4 maybe? or 1 and 3 would work, but you can't do a 1! 27 minutes in so tricky. 31 minutes in. You can place the 6 and the 9 in box 3, because the row 3 sees the 6 from the Red cell. Still haven't placed the 3 in box 5 I see. 37 Minutes in you did, it's in the rules, therefore you can't have 1+2, nice remembering that! You solved it 1+4. 40.5 Minutes in, nice now that you placed a 5 in the cage, it comes out of the combinations, and you can back-work that now into the Box 4 (through the 18 cage). 43.5 Minutes in Box 5 should be done now that you removed 2 out of the row 6. [3,2,1] 44 Minutes in BOOM he's there, and not through a different unrelated method which I was really scared he was going to do and not recognize it at all, he does this all the time, coming at it from such diverse methods. 48.5 Minutes in, the last cells to get filled are this 16 cages, hilarious.
@paulmaglio9254
@paulmaglio9254 2 года назад
I chuckled all the way through this solve. I guess the lesson here is something is impossible only until it's not - or don't challenge a Sudoku setter :-)
@oakleyg2870
@oakleyg2870 2 года назад
76:42 and feels like a major victory! What an amazing puzzle and concept.
@NettoTakashi
@NettoTakashi 2 года назад
A spectacular puzzle! I always love when constructors give me reason to put 0's in the grid, and this is a beautiful way of bringing the Schrodinger's Cell concept to life. Mind-bogglingly fun.
@Articision
@Articision 2 года назад
This broke my brain for a minute, but it's a beautiful puzzle and a really cool concept
@Jukka70
@Jukka70 2 года назад
great puzzle, love the James Bond featured in the boxes :)
@andersosterholm2538
@andersosterholm2538 2 года назад
One of the best puzzles I've seen on the channel. A fabulous idea, superbly executed!
@jpconley5618
@jpconley5618 2 года назад
I can't explain how happy I was when you finally spotted that 3 you'd missed for 40 minutes. That was great fun to watch. What a unique puzzle, keen to see more Schrodinger cell Sudoku's.
@SomethingWellesian
@SomethingWellesian 2 года назад
I’m at 25 minutes in and getting anxiety over Simon’s pencil-marked 01, almost indistinguishable from a finished Schrödinger’s cell😳
@Tahgtahv
@Tahgtahv 2 года назад
I assume you mean the 01 he accidently left in box 1, rather than the 01 pair he entered in box 9 around 26:11?
@jorrr9096
@jorrr9096 2 года назад
Haha me too. It was also scary with the 17 pair in box 3 😅
@azpcox
@azpcox 2 года назад
A meta Schrödinger cell. It’s both a Schrödinger cell and NOT a Schrödinger cell at the same time.
@WillHarmon
@WillHarmon 2 года назад
I found changing the color of the Schrodinger cell after finalalizing its value helped a lot
@geoff544
@geoff544 2 года назад
32:00 - I know why he had a 01 in the shrodinger cell in box 1 - he was bifurcating!! 😁
@thatotherdavidguy
@thatotherdavidguy 2 года назад
Loving this puzzle! Hope we see more Starwarigami puzzles on the channel - they are all a joy to watch
@bobh6728
@bobh6728 2 года назад
Can’t believe Simon didn’t color more by shading cells that can’t be Schroedinger cells.
@donatello_8691
@donatello_8691 2 года назад
That is more crazier then a schrodinger cell
@bryanroland9402
@bryanroland9402 2 года назад
I don't know who Schrodinger's killer was but the physicist had it coming because he killed his cat (probably).
@gregr28
@gregr28 2 года назад
I think this was the most enjoyable puzzle I've ever done. Another Schrodinger's quest of the puzzle: I had to simultaneously rely completely on everything I've learned from this channel over the last year and throw everything I've learned out the window. I LOVED doing this puzzle.
@gregr28
@gregr28 2 года назад
Aaaargh I completely missed the rule about Schrodinger's cells being unique. That would have easily knocked 20 minutes off of my time.
@KumaKaori
@KumaKaori 2 года назад
Simon really needs to be careful what he asserts on this channel, XD. The world's best setters merely take it as a challenge XD;;;.
@danieltaber4924
@danieltaber4924 2 года назад
Had an idea for a Sudoku - A 9x9 grid where there are 6 hidden regions of 6, which must be found, wherein digits cannot repeat. These six regions are perfectly cloned into an adjoining 6x6 Sudoku. Some clues are in the 6x6, and some are in the 9x9, and so you must use logic on both puzzles in order to progress, including by finding the shapes of the regions!
@danieltaber4924
@danieltaber4924 2 года назад
@Tejesh Patel Which are allowed to overlap with the clues already in the grids which may be Killer Cages in their own right, aye.
@djlungo
@djlungo 2 года назад
What a great puzzle! And really well solved by Simon...
@LuanMerlin
@LuanMerlin 2 года назад
I am now waiting for a Sudon'tku where you have to place the digits 0-9 in the grid without ever following normal sudoku rules.
@DavidNayer
@DavidNayer 2 года назад
Simply a stunning puzzle and solve. The puzzle had many parallel logic paths, so I solved things in a different order. I love your flexibility Simon in relearning heuristics and double-checking them. I can see we were different in some ways about our tolerance for some new rules and the same in others. I had no trouble holding 10 digits in the scanning, you were better at seeing irregular killer sets. I had a SMILE from beginning to end. Delightful. I guess my cat was Cheshire (to add Lewis Carrol to the pantheon of puzzle nobility in this puzzle).
@Gonzalo_Garcia_
@Gonzalo_Garcia_ 2 года назад
38:35 for me. What an incredibly cool idea, I absolutely loved it.
@Wjanabdjd138
@Wjanabdjd138 2 года назад
I love this puzzle! I have my time of 46:15 minutes this kind of puzzle is very cool to me I hope there will be more
@starwarigami
@starwarigami 2 года назад
I have another schroedinger puzzle on logic masters Germany that you could try, and I've heard that some other creators are taking up the challenge, so you could be in luck!
@Wjanabdjd138
@Wjanabdjd138 2 года назад
@@starwarigami Thank you!!
@alainculos9294
@alainculos9294 2 года назад
It is a very clever puzzle indeed, stunningly good but still on the edge of approachable. I also resolved this without requiring uniqueness of the pairs. I forget how but I reasoned that r4c1 had to be odd, which ruled out the 6 and therefore the 12 pair in r2c1.
@abzulooks6012
@abzulooks6012 2 года назад
possibly the first ever x-wing on zeroes.
@mikes_.5_cent
@mikes_.5_cent 2 года назад
Thanks Simon and @starwarigami. Thhe puzzle was fun to watch as Simon solved it.
@AlexdiGriz
@AlexdiGriz 2 года назад
Now u need Phistomefel's edition of this xD
@maxinesenior596
@maxinesenior596 2 года назад
"That might be nice" -Simon, after reducing a triple to a 69 pair
@Litwinel
@Litwinel 2 года назад
Very unique and interesting puzzle! Would buy an app full of them.
@incoxide
@incoxide 2 года назад
hands down the best new sudoku variation for ages - probably forever! Totally brilliant.
@phreakzilla8514
@phreakzilla8514 2 года назад
I get irrationally angry when Simon skips the sudoku parts of the sudoku 😂”that’s a 3! That’s a 4! LOOK AT IT!” 😂😂
@mikepictor
@mikepictor 2 года назад
I did it. I think it broke my head..but I did it.
@maurobraunstein9497
@maurobraunstein9497 2 года назад
I loved it! I've been thinking for a few months now about how a zero sudoku could work. This is a very interesting implementation of it. The one I envision doesn't have Schrödinger cells; instead, it just has the digits 1-9 eight times each and nine 0's, with no digit appearing in a row, column, or box more than once. But that would make it far harder to actually do sudoku, since unless you've already determined that a particular digit doesn't appear in some other row, the answer to "so where does the 4 go in row 8" could well be "there isn't a 4 in row 8". This Schrödinger cell idea is a great way to work around that problem, even though the queen's move restriction made it maybe *too* restricted. Still, what a great puzzle!
@timbeaton5045
@timbeaton5045 2 года назад
So setters are now trying their best to a) confuse Simon, and b) confuse the programmers as to how to display the puzzle. And basically to show off how creative they can be with rule sets! We are entering the Non-euclidean realms of consistency. I think Lobachevsky would have approved!* All good fun! *Whilst plagiarising, of course!
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 2 года назад
Well there was a 3 in a corner , would have been nice to get a 03 or n3 in a corner for the song
@SorcerorNobody
@SorcerorNobody 2 года назад
It can be really tricky to keep the 0s in mind for this one! I stalled a few times because of that, but fortunately always in a way that made me realise I hadn't broken the puzzle, but that it was telling me there had to be a 0 in the cage I was considering. I'm amazed this only took me about an hour, all things considered. What a magnificent puzzle! Edit: it occurs to me that I never used the constraint that no two Schrödinger cells can be the same. Would have saved me some logic on the 27.5 cage I guess.
@JPgreekgaming
@JPgreekgaming 2 года назад
It is a delight to witness something both as clever and fun as this. Both setting by Starwarigami and solve by Simon where incredible! Thoroughly enjoyed this!
@OlafDoschke
@OlafDoschke 2 года назад
I am excited. I thought of killer cages containing Schrödinger cells, but the idea to include 0 I also already had in mind, its nice that someone else had the same idea. The thing I enjoyed the most is Simons reactions, like the one at 9:00. Besides, there now are triangular Schrödinger numbers, or is it Schrödinger triangular numbers? I guess both. For example, 1+2 now isn't only 3, it can also be 1.5 and 1+2+3 can be 6, 3.5 or 4.5
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 2 года назад
You can also have (1+3)/2 + 2 = 4
@OlafDoschke
@OlafDoschke 2 года назад
@@ragnkja Thanks for spotting this. I think you should build the sums starting with 0 and create a new Schrödinger Pascal triangle, too.
@SkillZgetKillZ
@SkillZgetKillZ 2 года назад
Head scratching at first but easier than it looks Talking myself audibly through it, I've found all the schrodinger cells and have the right boxes mostly done Remember: 9 can be done in 4 boxes now because of 0 being allowed
@IsYitzach
@IsYitzach 2 года назад
In the great tradition of pedants everywhere and the nerd show specializing in pedantry "Um, Actually..." (meaning, ignore me, I'm off topic): Um actually, a 50/50 superposition of 2 states is either 1/sqrt(2)(|state 1>+|state 2>) or 1/sqrt(2)(|state 1>-|state 2>), so an "average" of 4 and 5 works out to 9/sqrt(2), 1/sqrt(2) or -1/sqrt(2). An arbitrary superposition of 2 states is cos(theta)|state 1>+sin(theta)|state 2>.
@sharath123sk
@sharath123sk 2 года назад
I genuinely think and feel this is the best puzzle I've ever seen being solved in my life It made me laugh no ends, it gave me joy like no other Man I love this puzzle type
@doncook4097
@doncook4097 2 года назад
I just love this rule set. Way to go starwarigami. It messes with your head. Would like to see phistomfel make a puzzle with this rule set.
@Sam_on_YouTube
@Sam_on_YouTube 2 года назад
I've been thinking about queens move puzzles. It seems like a very powerful restriction. There are only a few ways of getting 9 queens on a 9×9 board. Even fewer if you have to limit them to 1 per box. I managed, after playing around a bit, to get 3 different digits on a board with a queens move restriction on each. I don't know, but I expect 4 is not possible. I'm not a puzzle setter, but I thought I'd throw this concept out there to any setters out there who may want to pursue it.
@minamagdy4126
@minamagdy4126 2 года назад
There was a puzzle on the channel, a year ago at least, with 6 digits (4-9) having queen's move constraint. I believe, although I am far from certain, that this might be the limit. It certainly has been proven impossible to have all 9 digits with queen's move constraint.
@jefffrank177
@jefffrank177 2 года назад
Yes I had just come across this one myself, in playing old puzzles from the CTC channel. Mark says in the video it's been proven that 6 is the most digits that can share this trait and in fact there are 6 in this puzzle. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-H11w7GCIHxY.html
@Sam_on_YouTube
@Sam_on_YouTube 2 года назад
Awesome. Thanks. I'll try the puzzle. Solved this one in 54 minutes.
@MrCoxmic
@MrCoxmic 2 года назад
as soon as you started mentioning schrodinger cells not being possible I expected to see a sudoku with them
@Canadoscope
@Canadoscope 2 года назад
brilliant idea for a puzzle!
@gringene_bio
@gringene_bio 2 года назад
Really enjoyed watching this. Thanks for the many laughs.
@RollcageTV
@RollcageTV 2 года назад
I *LOVE* this puzzle! And the thumbnail is purr-fect! 😸
@MarushiaDark316
@MarushiaDark316 2 года назад
This has to be one of the most amazing sudoku puzzles ever.
@amoswittenbergsmusings
@amoswittenbergsmusings 2 года назад
Don't you know? We see on CtC every month at least *one* of the most amazing sudokus ever! This is the Institute for Advanced Study of the sudoku world.
@laur9en
@laur9en 2 года назад
Your excitement when you realised you had 007 is a thing of pure joy
@gregind01
@gregind01 2 года назад
Is my brain dead or alive after tangling with this sudoku! 🤪
@PhilBoswell
@PhilBoswell 2 года назад
Erm…yes?
@frankjiang1857
@frankjiang1857 2 года назад
Finished in 52:34. Love the concept and the execution of the sudoku puzzle. It was definitely difficult trying to grasp the implications of 1st having 0 available, and 2nd having the largest of the 2 digits in the schrodinger's cell be reduced by up to half it's "value" in the box, square, or row. But eventually, I started to figure out some of the tricks of dealing with the new values. Thanks for the puzzle!
@amoswittenbergsmusings
@amoswittenbergsmusings 2 года назад
Does anyone else register watching Simon solve one of these mind benders an almost erotological experience, in a totally Platonic way? A sort of logical romcom? A Jacques Brel ballad? A Shakespeare sonnet? Or am I alone with this weirdness?
@matteopascoli
@matteopascoli 2 года назад
You are in a superposition of being alone and not being alone.
@amoswittenbergsmusings
@amoswittenbergsmusings 2 года назад
@@matteopascoli I envy you, sir, for your wit in brevity.
@paulmdt1
@paulmdt1 2 года назад
Shall I compare a Simon sudoku solve to a Shakespeare sonnet? No.
@amoswittenbergsmusings
@amoswittenbergsmusings 2 года назад
@@paulmdt1 🤣
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 2 года назад
45:19 Because the 24 pair in box 7 rules the 2 out of r3c3 there's a pretty satisfying 356789 sextuplet in column 3 making r5c3 a 1. (Short phrasing: Where's the 1 in column 3?)
@DanBurgaud
@DanBurgaud 2 года назад
Plot Twist: Schrödinger's Cat escaped, nothing in the box.... Schrödinger heard the cat meowing and went to check the box; the cat in revenge slammed the door shut. Now it is called Schrödinger's Room...
@thomasknapp6434
@thomasknapp6434 2 года назад
Simon: There is no such thing as a Schrodinger's Cell. starwarigami: Challenge accepted.
@DerMarkus1982
@DerMarkus1982 2 года назад
15:58 "... and we have found all our Schrödinger Cells." Yes, Simon, and we have found them before actually starting the Sudoku part of the puzzle! 😃 Weird statements keep coming from this channel! Excellent entertainment once again at CtC! 😆
@TheArseen
@TheArseen 2 года назад
I recieved the German copy of the CTC book about two weeks ago (I live in Finland). Maybe the English one comes soon too. Also I have recieved English PDF earlier, will there be German PDF also?
@Varksterable
@Varksterable 2 года назад
To break into this I tried using bifurcation. ... but I also didn't use any bifurcation at any point. Unlike Simon, I coloured the Schrodinger cells blue. And also orange. And also neither blue, nor orange. I immediately pencilled 0-9 into all the arrows, and made sure all the cages had at least 3 repeating digits in them. And then I thought about the geometry for a while, and concluded that a 9 by 9 grid simply didn't cut it, so I went for hexagons. (With 7 sides and 5 vertices each.) And then I openly wept for a while and decided to just enjoy Simon doing his thing and watch the video. A very clever and entertaining puzzle, thank you both!
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