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Scope height, something to consider 

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Might be different to what you have always been told, but worth at least understanding.
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@kevinb9745
@kevinb9745 3 года назад
My scope and shooting IQ goes up with everyone of your vids I watch,thank you for them. Joe at Cyclops does a great job testing scopes. It was nice to see he gave someone of your caliber a shout out.Please keep up the great education for us learners,
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Man, glad you liked, Cheers
@jasonrad9332
@jasonrad9332 3 года назад
Good stuff, I’ve always heard the mount low philosophy. I love when someone explains the why. From across the pond in Colorado.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Jason, thanks
@JM10344
@JM10344 Год назад
The information you provide is fantastic. Form follows function. If it is not a desired function, double check form. Vary nice of you to mention Cyclops Joe. Both of you are making us better shooters. Thank you.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork Год назад
Cheers Joe, thank you
@crafter170
@crafter170 3 года назад
Nicely explained .This guy would make a decent schoolteacher .I was in my local shop years ago and the gunsmith was fitting mounts with holes in them to see through and give him the choice to use the iron sights .I had to make sure my mounts were medium to ensure my f155 add on would clear .This video is very educational .Cheers mate .Good work .You deserve to do well.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Man, Cheers
@rickfletcher8422
@rickfletcher8422 3 года назад
Always the simplest titles in which I think I already know. Always worth watching, always learning! Great clip
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Risk thanks man, all the best.
@paulsimmons5726
@paulsimmons5726 3 года назад
Glad to see two of my favorite RU-vid channels giving each other a shout-out. Great explanation about scope height pros and cons. Take care and be well!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Paul, Cheers
@richc767
@richc767 2 года назад
Learning so much from your channel. I find all your information is logical and well thought out. Thank you
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Thanks man, cheers
@neilharris4462
@neilharris4462 3 года назад
Thanks for the knowledge. Its amazing how we do things for looks when it goes against how physics and anatomy works.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Yep, all too often, glad you liked, Cheers
@lovetoflylovetofly3843
@lovetoflylovetofly3843 3 года назад
Excellent advice Mark, thanks for your time! You too Sam.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Man, glad you liked.
@shooterscott
@shooterscott 3 года назад
Nice talk tonight Mark, thanks for the info and knowledge! My best to you both.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Scott, thanks
@joseoropeza5694
@joseoropeza5694 3 года назад
I never though of looking at it like this. You gave me some good things to work with. Thank you
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@CyclopsJoeVideos
@CyclopsJoeVideos 3 года назад
Great Video Mark , thank you so much for the shout out !!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks you too Joe, Cheers and all our best.
@rainbow2710
@rainbow2710 3 года назад
Brilliant stuff! So glad that there is someone, out there, that reasons things the same way I do about scope height!!! Thanks.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@regsparkes6507
@regsparkes6507 3 года назад
Good ideas and tips here,. .thanks Mark!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@davegrimshaw7318
@davegrimshaw7318 3 года назад
Thanks again guys 👍 every video i learn something new..also keeping me sane during this Covid lockdown 🙄(we're under house arrest unless working or shopping for essential's)😏
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Dave, sounds like fun, not, all the best, Cheers
@magwamagwa45110
@magwamagwa45110 3 года назад
100% agree I like mine about 2.5 above the bore it saves my neck and is much easier to see impacts thanks for sharing great advice...
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Man, thanks
@prodigyanesthesia
@prodigyanesthesia 2 года назад
You explained this where even I understand it. Strong work.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Thanks Man, Cheers
@rodbusetti5022
@rodbusetti5022 3 года назад
Very good explanation. Joe sent me your way. Keep up the great information. Thanks
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Rod, thanks
@aussiesteveakastevecallagh2280
@aussiesteveakastevecallagh2280 3 года назад
Thanks Mark great info mate , I do follow Joe he knows his stuff and has a great sense of humour.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Steve, Cheers
@johannesvanhoek9080
@johannesvanhoek9080 3 года назад
Thanks again for another fine video that Gives us food for thought 👍. I’m personally not pro one way or the other when it comes to scope height , but I will be now 😊
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Man, thanks
@fisherus
@fisherus 3 года назад
Mark, I am delighted you made this video as I have almost every scope I have mounted on my rifles at 2-inches high on more. Some of my rifles I used a Kick-eze pad mount, I've modified, intended for shotguns. This has allowed me to raise the pivot point you alluded to in this video. I did this originally on a McMillan stock remodel I used to shoot 3543 yards ( little bit over 2 miles) with my 300RUM, Remington 700 SS LA blueprinted with a 30" Lothar Walther SS barrel, Wyatts Box, Jewel trigger and Fat Bastard muzzle brake.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Craig, glad you liked, thanks
@oddursigurdsson3046
@oddursigurdsson3046 3 года назад
Nice info and discussion, thank you for sharing :)
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Oddur, Cheers
@conservativesniperhunter7439
@conservativesniperhunter7439 3 года назад
This video like all your videos will help a lot of shooters particularly inexperienced and new shooters to set up their scopes to better fit their physique . Cheers 🍻
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Hope so, glad you liked, Cheers
@samhunt9380
@samhunt9380 2 года назад
Good video! I started life as a culler in the New Zealand Forest Service in 1963. We only had open sights for all hunting, bush or mountain. We were issued with sporterised .303's then. When I bought my own rifle, a Sako .270, i used it for some time without a scope. My first scope was a Nikko 4x40. The choice of scopes wasn't great back then and they were horrendously expensive in NZ too . I mounted it low because of what you said, a direct hangover from open sights. These days in my 70's I use a Carl Gustaf .270 with a Swarovski scope and the height is closer to what you have shown here, probably because I used the same thoughts you mentioned. Glad I found your channel, subscribed. Cheers mate.....
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Thanks Sam, glad you liked, cheers
@sunejeppesen4318
@sunejeppesen4318 3 года назад
Thank you for putting this video up. The low mount philosophy is also how most people would answer you here in Denmark. But I see now that it is an old school way of looking at it, and it is almost always hunters that would pass on that particular advice. Thank you for clearing this up. I will go and check all my rifles now - hunting and precision rifles. Always a pleasure to see you shoot with the MDT setup. Having a Tikka T3 in 30-06 mounted in a MDT ESS chassis I feel I can relate. Big thumbs up 👍
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Sune, glad you liked, Cheers
@matthewtracy8744
@matthewtracy8744 3 года назад
Good info. I was having this conversation just the other day.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@radikewl70
@radikewl70 3 года назад
Great info, thanks for posting.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Man, Cheers
@jcarne1015
@jcarne1015 2 года назад
Thanks Mark. I’ll give it a try.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Awesome, Cheers
@jimlerum
@jimlerum 3 года назад
Great topic and commentary, thanks Mark!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@craneyguy
@craneyguy Год назад
Awesome!! Thank you.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork Год назад
Cheers
@2clicksup910
@2clicksup910 3 года назад
Good vid yet again. Debunking the myth of “lower is better” in plain English without jamming opinions down the viewers’ necks. I have been of a similar opinion on this matter for some time, and I’m slowly (and I do mean SLOWLY) getting my Father, who is 86 and still comes shooting with me, to fall in with this way of thinking. And, yes, the Cyclops is definitely worth a look.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Man, thanks
@johnmal801
@johnmal801 2 года назад
This is just the video I needed to watch. I'm setting up a rifle up now and the scope is 1/2" above the barrel. I'm going to try this setup. Thank you my friend.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Awesome, Cheers
@Suck-Squeeze-Bang-Blow
@Suck-Squeeze-Bang-Blow 3 года назад
Great...now I need to buy more scope rings. Excellent info.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@longsnipz
@longsnipz 3 года назад
Thank you for your insight. I have a M1A national match rifle, scope base, rings are 2.5in high. (Caliper measurements half of bore,scope diameter) my other rifles are set up at 2in high. Haven't really thought about where the contact point was on the buttstock until you explained it... You're absolutely right!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Man, thanks
@k2svpete
@k2svpete Год назад
That's got to be the best video I've seen explaining positioning your rifle and scope to suit you, the shooter. Just about every other video only looks at eye relief. I'm definitely going to try higher rings, I'm canting my head over to get in the correct position. Just one of those challenges with having a box head.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork Год назад
Lol, thanks Peter, Cheers man
@kaskaderalen
@kaskaderalen 3 года назад
I set them low for hunting to prevent snagging the scope on something, but i see your point. Like the video's keep up the great work.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@mikekirchner8229
@mikekirchner8229 3 года назад
Another awesome informative video. I watched the scope leveling video on Joe Cyclop's channel. Every shooter at work knows about both channels. Great 👍 job
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Mike, glad you liked and yes Joe does great work, cheers
@mikekirchner8229
@mikekirchner8229 3 года назад
@@markandsamafterwork you're welcome
@kanethomas773
@kanethomas773 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, Mark. I am new to shooting and have had my scopes low . A lot of what you discuss has explained a lot. And i think i need to go higher on my rings . Thanks, mate.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 11 месяцев назад
Thanks Kane, Cheers
@MichaelBrown-um8qc
@MichaelBrown-um8qc Год назад
Thank You 😊🥂👍
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork Год назад
Cheers
@Blackhorseveteran
@Blackhorseveteran 3 года назад
Good tutorial Mark !
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@anthonygoogs2416
@anthonygoogs2416 2 месяца назад
Great Vid!! Thanks ✌️
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 месяца назад
Thanks Man
@rifleman1873
@rifleman1873 3 года назад
I appreciate your analytical approach. I have been around a while. and always heard the, “closer to the bore is better” theory. But your explanation quickly negates that line of thought. Thanks!!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Man, thanks
@markhoulding1938
@markhoulding1938 3 года назад
Totally agree Mark I just buy the right height mounts that suit my head position with moa rails or front Nightvision attachments 👍
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Mark, Cheers
@michaelreed1380
@michaelreed1380 3 года назад
Mark... half of what we do is looking cool while doing it. Now you're telling me that doesn't count for squat?! Dang. In all seriousness, very interesting points you make. Im going to evaluate my shooting position because what you say (like so much of your other points made) juat makes sense nobody can argue with your results. To be honest, I see some of your video titles and I think to myself well, whatever. Then I watch them and learn something from everyone of them. Keep up the great work you do Mark (and Sam), you guys are phenomenal. Whenever I have i someone interested in this game of LR/ELR shooting, I always send them to your videos. Excellent teaching points and addicting accomplishments to try and reach.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Michael, glad you like and even better if they help, Cheers
@scooterdogg7580
@scooterdogg7580 3 года назад
had see through mounts for years , even though I never planned on needing iron sights , I found it to be a much more natural eye - scope alignment , plus if you want large objective scopes , you're all set
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Yep, Cheers
@bg3160
@bg3160 3 года назад
Excellent video. Just ordered two 1 inch risers for my rifle. That should solve some of my alignment problems!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice to blow myths out the back door. I've lived by low rings are better for so long, but this makes complete sense. From way out west in the USA, Good On Ya!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers man, thanks
@jdr285
@jdr285 3 года назад
Mark, once again IMHO you are spot on. Being relatively new to rifles and long range, I began by following the conventional "mount it low" using Seekings Precision .87 "medium" height rings. (Just high enough for the objective bell to clear the barrel.) In addition to what you mentioned, I found that when getting into the proper eye box position, I was applying a torque to the stock with my cheek which would throw the rifle off of level. Then, I would fight to get it back to level by applying a counter torque. Experimenting this off-season, I have found that raising the scope by switching from medium to high (.97") or extra high (1.26") rings correct the specific torquing issue and result in a much more relaxed shooting position. Once it warms up, I will shoot with both to see which works the best. It will not surprise me to be rifle specific.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@SVTBansheeman
@SVTBansheeman 3 года назад
If I just listen to the audio, it's as If Mike Dundee is teaching me. Thank you for all the info. It all makes sense.👍
@tamaustralia4949
@tamaustralia4949 3 года назад
Gday mate It was Mick Not mike, bruva, Get orf the yandi cuz
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Man, and lol
@tamaustralia4949
@tamaustralia4949 3 года назад
@@markandsamafterwork lol couldnt resist it mate Love your work And all shooters benefit from your knowledge Thanks and all the best from northern NSW Yous are a stella team 👍🇦🇺
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Tan, Cheers and all the best.
@SVTBansheeman
@SVTBansheeman 3 года назад
@@markandsamafterwork this is absolutely my favorite channel on the subject of shooting far. What we don't see is the many many hours, trial and error etc to learn this art. I'm just starting. It gives me good guidance and inspiration.
@dennisholle1005
@dennisholle1005 3 года назад
Thank for the great info. Looks are not everything. I an happy Joe the Cyclops turned me on to you. Joe is a great no BS reviewer with a great sense of humor.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Dennis, Cheers
@ianwoodward1554
@ianwoodward1554 2 года назад
Thanks Mark, although I’m waiting at the moment for my Tikka and Swarovski to arrive in Australia. The shop is telling me to mount the scope as low to the barrel as possible. I’ve heard you give this advice before and it just makes more logical sense. I’ll stick to my guns (no pun intended) and have it mounted to my frame and style of shooting. Cheers from Brisvagas
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Thanks Ian, good plan, Cheers
@MattWaller04
@MattWaller04 Год назад
Your videos are invaluable to setting up an ELR rifle
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork Год назад
Thanks Matt
@kraftzion
@kraftzion 2 года назад
Thanks!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Cheers
@commonsense7787
@commonsense7787 2 года назад
I thought I had a good grasp on scoped rifles. After watching this I realized I’ve made my choices on looks. I think a high scope looks bad therefore it must be bad. Thank you for the education.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Cheers Man, thanks
@VaMike9
@VaMike9 2 года назад
Good video!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Cheers
@pegleg1az
@pegleg1az 2 года назад
Thank you again. I broke my neck 38 years ago and never liked my scope or even site & beads low. It just was not comfortable to me and would give me heard neck aches and pinched nerves.. It would just take the fun out of shooting at that point...
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Thanks again Don, Cheers
@bernarddefraeye2794
@bernarddefraeye2794 3 года назад
exelent video , not many tackel this issue. there is also infuence in scope height and kill zone in pest control(.22) with same zero. i simulate this with ballistic software. so without having to dial having larger distance zone with kill zone as result.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks Bernard, yes can help too, glad you liked, Cheers
@oldschooljack3479
@oldschooljack3479 3 года назад
Thanks Mark, good stuff. My rifle is off the shelf and came with a standard sporter stock... I hate it. It didn't take me long to figure out that sporter stocks are designed to be shot from a standing position... They're OK for being seated at a bench... Horrible for prone. I've got a Boyd's stock on my wish list and hope to see some improvements in function and ergonomics.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Jack, thanks
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 3 года назад
When I started hunting/shooting everyone would brag about the fact they could barely slide a dollar bill between the bell on their optic and rifle barrel. From what I remember it was so your rifle would be more accurate or something like that. Great video brother keepem coming...
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@kilofoxtrotdelta6112
@kilofoxtrotdelta6112 2 года назад
Thank you, I just got my rifle out of my gun safe, even with medium scope rings my scope is fine, my scope has a 56mm objective lens, low rings the rim of the scope would have been just a few millimeters above the barrel if not touching it so I'm glad you cleared that up. Just waiting on my MDT XRS chassis system MDT magazine's to arrive so I can finally get my rifle back on the range. My Savage 10 proprietary magazine is hopeless, but I didn't want to waste money on a new magazine so I thought change out the chassis and use MDT or AICS magazines, better for Sniper competition (SRA Finland) and hunting.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Sounds great, Cheers
@shanegibb997
@shanegibb997 3 года назад
Great video Mark , that makes a lot of sense , I have 2 rifles where the scopes are that low that I can't even put the scope covers on and they are a little uncomfortable to shoot , very accurate but uncomfortable.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Uncomfortable, never ends up always very accurate.....Cheers
@shanegibb997
@shanegibb997 3 года назад
@@markandsamafterwork might go next size up in rings , see how that goes.
@scooterdogg7580
@scooterdogg7580 3 года назад
old fashion see through rings work for me
@robertthomas3777
@robertthomas3777 Год назад
As a late in life ‘newby’ to this, I wish I’d known this before buying my guns. The shops basically just sell the guns with some technical advice, noting they are dealing with passion, emotion and desire over logic. Although a complex science, time spent investigating the biomechanics and fit would be superb - curtailing a lot of potential issues and facilitating a better outcome. Great advice based on huge experience and ability. Thanks so much.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork Год назад
Cheers Rob, thanks Man
@Freeflying1234
@Freeflying1234 3 года назад
This makes a lot of sense. I have always strived to get my scope as low as possible, did not really know the reason why. I just heard the usual stuff. Thought it was related to lessening the effects of canting the rifle. I`m now getting a second hand Tikka A1 Tac chassis for my T3 supervarmint .260 rem, and I will set it up with the end of the stock making more contact with shoulder and making my prone position more natural\less cramped style like you suggest. I have only shot a heavy .223 in a heavy MDT Tac21 chassis so much focus on recoil managment has not been so critcal.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Thanks man, Cheers
@donbeyer432
@donbeyer432 2 года назад
That saved me 200 dollars! thanks
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Cheers
@walterluiz4694
@walterluiz4694 3 года назад
Very very good
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@hokehinson5987
@hokehinson5987 7 месяцев назад
Great video. Can placement of the coventional buttstock in the bench rest position be achieved as you've shown in the standing postion.. the magpul stocks with the adjustable cheek rest work at bench rest. Some of my CZ have the euro stocks with more combined drop than the stock in video. I like how you have ruptured the myth of always needing low rings. Around here it's difficult to find low rings medium or high seem to be stocked abundantly. As a child in the 1950s folks would used the add on leather cheek pieces usually laced in place. Those don't seem to be offered much anymore. As a kid 9 outa 10 hunting rifles had those add on leather cheek pieces. Good video mate! 🤔
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 7 месяцев назад
Cheers Man
@patrickkelly9721
@patrickkelly9721 Год назад
Most efficient is a tool that fits me and my task. If I have to contort to use the tool, I need a different tool (or different height rings)
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork Год назад
Cheers
@p47rr
@p47rr 2 года назад
Have a old model Sabatti rifle. They updated their bolt to throw the brass out to the side. Need to keep the scope up enough on my older model so that the brass doesn’t bounce off the turret. Some times bouncing right back into the action. Had the same problem with a Remington 788 bolt action.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Cheers
@brianbumgardner8704
@brianbumgardner8704 3 года назад
I've had my scops set 2.5in to 3in for as long as I can remember. It just seems to fit my shooting position the best and typically most of my shots are 100yds or more, many times as far out as 350yds. I shoot a .270win for deer species, prong horn and the dreaded cyote.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@nimik221
@nimik221 3 года назад
I found I can spot impacts a lot faster with high rings compared to my other rifles with low rings. I find it a lot more comfortable with high rings and can stay behind the scope for longer periods of time.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Yep, Cheers
@troytownsend1730
@troytownsend1730 2 года назад
A young man working in a sports store, and I were about to go rounds over high or low scope height, when he suddenly asked me if I watched Mark and Sam, immediately, I knew I was the one in the wrong and was going to have to see this video, Thanks.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Lol, thanks Troy, Cheers man, all our best.
@kenandrieling5885
@kenandrieling5885 Год назад
I used to have a 22 with open rings so you could use the iron sights if needed at close range. That would be the only reason I would mount the scope any higher than you have to.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork Год назад
Cheers
@satched
@satched 2 года назад
Hi Mark another great video. Just a quick question about scope height, low vs high. Does it have any effect on internal adjustment? Or is that only effected by the base angle?
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
No, Cheers
@tyler6147
@tyler6147 3 года назад
Thanks for this. Seriously so many people are trapped into the idea that one way is "right" and cannot be challenged. I'm not as eloquent about it as you but I have a 10/22 with a very high scope on it. It's so much more comfortable and so far I'm regularly hitting a 6 inch plate at 325 yards. That said there ain't no way around physics. On bigger calibers how you are positioned to take the recoil matters. Great video.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers Tyler, thanks
@NittyGritty420
@NittyGritty420 Год назад
The scope on my 10/22 is as low as I could get it. Honestly I did it for aesthetic reasons and I’m used to it now so it’s not an issue for me. I might get some taller rings just to see if my accuracy changes.
@HebrewHammerArmsCo
@HebrewHammerArmsCo 3 года назад
Great video..... I just scratch my head as to why someone would thumb this down...
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Lol, Cheers Adam, thanks
@michaelkuner7831
@michaelkuner7831 2 года назад
Fat fingers.
@onlyfinehelis3793
@onlyfinehelis3793 3 года назад
I generally prefer a higher scope mount as well. The one potential negative that you need to be aware of is that the higher your scope, the more important you leveling the rifle will be - especially at longer ranges. A higher scope that is canted on a rifle will give a greater horizontal impact on the target if not properly leveled. Just something to keep in mind.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Well not really, another of those things folks are taught, but reality is, it is very, very important to level rifle for long ranges, but not influenced by how high the scope, but glad you liked, Cheers
@thomaschase1719
@thomaschase1719 3 года назад
Sounds like a axe sharpening dilemma and I like my double bit axe beveled on just one side, the same one both edges in order that it chips away right or left with a quick twist and as sharp as possible because it’s not for splitting firewood.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@WalterWhite-gw3vm
@WalterWhite-gw3vm 3 года назад
Mark my buddies love to make fun of how I always use like a chin and jaw weld on my rifles instead of the cheek weld but I've been so used to shooting Ak's with optics that I find it to be a more comfortable feel shooting precision rifles that I'm not bending my head down to look through the glass.👍
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Yep, you just might be able to teach them something, lol, Cheers
@dennisdekker5201
@dennisdekker5201 3 года назад
I understand when you talk about a standard muzzle break only works to reduce recoil. Would it be an idea to make the ports that are to the sides and angled backwards, to make those ports in a compound angle where they are not only angled backwards but also slightly 10° or so upwards. This should give a slight downwards force.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Bad idea, we have videos to explain, cheers
@laserdude3064
@laserdude3064 3 года назад
Do you think scope height has any correlation to mirage? I usually mount my scopes on the high side and have never really felt hindered by mirage. I went with talley lows on my new 300wm and notice mirage now after 2 or 3 shots. It has me thinking about tossing a set of highs on there. My scope sits about a quarter inch off of my barrel with the lows. The temperature has also been in the 20s (F) when I've been out with it.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
No it has nothing to do with mirage at range, Cheers
@rainbow2710
@rainbow2710 3 года назад
When setting a scope on my rifle - the first thing I look for is that it's comfortable, and in a position that I can be consistent. I never really bothered about height except on my air rifles which I shoot 50m or less. Someone challenged me on scope height - he told me that it will limit my vertical adjustment if set too high. I do not think he is right, as it's the ANGLE of the scope viz the rifle that affects the vertical adjustments. Do you think so?
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
All explained in the video, but not an issue, Cheers
@charlesbullee7215
@charlesbullee7215 2 года назад
What about if the rifle gets tipped one way or another with a tall scope mount would that factor in to accuracy?
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Matters for low and high scopes, no difference, Cheers
@adubeauify
@adubeauify 2 года назад
So you don't need to have your cheek box resting on the comb? That explains why I am so uncomfortable behind the scope.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Cheers
@dalanwanbdiska6542
@dalanwanbdiska6542 3 года назад
Im adding a 11 to 20mm base on my dovetail rail on my 303 british. Then low weaver 1inch rings and bushnell xlt 3x9 scope. Ill be xeroing the scope at 200 yards.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@PripyatPlayground
@PripyatPlayground 3 года назад
How to prevent being punched in the eye from the scope when shooting 300 win mag? Find a scope with more eye relief?
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Set up your rifle and scope correctly, Cheers
@bg3160
@bg3160 3 года назад
I am new to the channel, so if this question is answered in another video, please direct me there. In one video I believe you mentioned 21 MOA drop. How do you achieve that inside the scope (not sure of the term I should use here). Does your scope have 21 MOA adjustment or do you lift (shim) the rear scope mount, or use adjustable rings or use another technique? I mostly shoot air rifle and just purchased a new air rifle with 20 MOA built into the scope rail, and have older models with adjustable rings. Just wondering about other techniques that work.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
We have several videos on how to set up a scope, and how to mount a scope, search the channel to find them, if you want more help, we have our 4AW club memberships, Cheers
@bg3160
@bg3160 3 года назад
@@markandsamafterwork Found the video on scope setup. I see you use a combination of tactics to meet your needs. I have much to learn. . . . . . .
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@thomasbroussard2316
@thomasbroussard2316 Год назад
How high over the center of the bore is your scope set on your long range rifles?
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork Год назад
I don't use a measurement, normally a tall ring/base option, but always set up as explained in the video, Cheers
@scottkessler186
@scottkessler186 3 года назад
Comfortable is common sense. I run a BLR Tracker in .308 with 18.5 in barrel set up for a standing rest shot i.e hunting and taking a shot with a natural rest like a tree branch or free standing and my chin not my cheek rests on the stock. I have to resist the temptation to move the scope when shooting from the bench whilst trying new ammo because it will mess up my hunting setup. My eye relief is different whilst seated. Maybe because i think too much about the shot and move around too much. But practising shouldering the rifle has allowed me to find the most comfortable and therefore accurate position for my scope. And yeah i do get comments from other shooters at the range of how high my scope is mounted. But when i am on walk a fast acquisition and shot is paramount.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@DeeMoback
@DeeMoback 3 года назад
Yup
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@chrislang5659
@chrislang5659 3 года назад
I was worried about taking a shot tonight at close range with a m4 with a carry handle and 4 power scope because hieght over bore. Zero is 50 shot at 10 do you have any suggestions?
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
As always, learn your rifle, lol, Cheers
@richardfrost7575
@richardfrost7575 2 года назад
My general thoughts in my 60 years of life, have always leaned towards your thoughts and explanations for this subject, however; I have rarely voiced my opinion. when high master shooters say it needs to be this way, who am I to argue. I have had injuries to my neck when I was younger that make it difficult if not impossible to use low profile anything, including a bipod. The only negative I have found with higher mounting, is for shots farther than 600yds I really need a level to reference. My natural ability to sense straight up and down ( plumb) isn't what it used to be. I can still for the most part at 600yds stay well within the 3/4 moa of the rifles ability and call pretty much everything outside that. The only trouble with that is, only trigger time will get the bad shots back in line. Just because you can call your shots doesn't mean you can shoot worth a darn ( without trigger time). If I could make all the shots I can see in pool, I would be a pool shark . Thank you for all your helpful advice and videos.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Thanks Richard, glad you liked, Cheers
@freddyw4555
@freddyw4555 2 месяца назад
My scopes are 2.5” above the bore. My head is pretty much straight up Is comfortable and quick acquisition. Muzzle breaks are too loud
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 месяца назад
Cheers
@Blackhorseveteran
@Blackhorseveteran 3 года назад
Funny...never had to worry about that shooting a 105mm from the gunners seat of an M60-A3 tank... LOL.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Lol, Cheers
@duggydo
@duggydo 3 года назад
I’ve noticed that your setups have very consistent recoil and go straight back whether large or small caliber.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Yep, reasons for that, lol, Cheers
@johnandrosemarywyatt977
@johnandrosemarywyatt977 2 года назад
There would be a lot more good shooters out there if they would watch this. There's too much "voodoo" out there. Excellent, excellent presentation.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Thanks John, cheers
@rx323bug
@rx323bug 3 года назад
Do you bed you scope bases? What have you found in that regard? I see chat from folks that bed them, do nothing or even glue them in place.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
As said, there is a full video on what we recommend, but usually use a little loctite, Cheers,
@rx323bug
@rx323bug 3 года назад
Thanks I must have missed that, you have such a large and ever growing catalogue of knowledge. Keep it up!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@NorthWestGuns
@NorthWestGuns 3 года назад
Joe is a good guy and a good friend I would recommend anybody to go over to his channel and subscribe to it!!!
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@lyndonhamby7432
@lyndonhamby7432 3 года назад
👍
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@aynjeleyes
@aynjeleyes 3 года назад
When people say it has to low the lower the better to be accurate and with high power. I quickly point out that the snipers in ww2 didnt have problems especially the Fins, Russians, Germans with 3x 4x scopes no real set scope power and extremely deadly.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
Cheers
@cheekyrick9529
@cheekyrick9529 3 года назад
ive read arguments in favor of low mounting a scope, im almost certain a lot of these people fail to understand the trajectory of the projectile or the geometric relationship between the scope and bore.
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 3 года назад
All explained, lol, Cheers
@rdt417
@rdt417 2 года назад
😉
@markandsamafterwork
@markandsamafterwork 2 года назад
Cheers
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