If you no clip and look back behind the door after it closes behind you, it reveals that he does get out of the mechanism and walks towards the door and stares in disbelief and waits hopelessly.
You have to realize that we didn't just do that in order to free ourselves. We gave him the claw thing. We showed him what it's for. Little guy has a shot now. I wanna see what happened to him.
A detail not many have seem to notice, if you kill him the gate stays open, if you let him live it closes, so it's safe to assume that he freed himself and now is looking for his own way out, good luck little guy
The gate closes regardless once you've walked through. I killed him, and while I was looking at the art before taking the lift, the door closed. It just gives you plenty of time to go through if you're slow and admiring the scenery.
Well these two choices for me is important, since at the end the main character gets attacked and locked forever in the parasite tree thingy, the little guy is still alive so there is still hope, the main character isn't the last of his people. And hopefully the little guy will reach beyond that portal and maybe end the rule of those parasites
Unfortunately he is not the same as you. He's what is called a "Moldman" and is quite literally used as biological product. Be it food, organs, or limbs. He has almost no higher intelligence and is incapable of caring for himself. The art book explains a lot of the lore.
"Saving" him is much more effort on your part and not that much better of an outcome. However, you put his fate in his hands. He has a chance, no matter how miniscule it is.
i feel bad for his existence, not because i hate him, but because the way he simply *stands* hurst me mentally with sadness. Imagine how uncomfortable that feels, even if you didn't let him stuck in the door thing, it's not likely he would survive anyways dues to his posture barely letting him walk straight. Plus he was just born, Imagine fighting the parasites ? he has no chance. For me, even if it was painfull, killing him was the best option. Also think about the first egg in the puzzle that fell, imagine if the guy there survived the fall, he's stuck there in his egg until he dies. edit1: corrected "feel" to "fell" edit2: after the art book i feel worse for him now ☠
Basically he's a "Moldmen", what the hell is a Moldmen ? well, basically they are mutilated humanoides bred as bodies to be utilized as material gain (basically they are the equivalent of using wood to build a chair or table, but you use pre-processed people instead), they're not even given the dignity of a name too. They're just called "Moldmen" because of their processed forms, and their existence is basically pure agony, pain and trauma; They literally have their bodies pressed together and then molded into a package, leaving the remains to dry out into usable nuggets. And they go through this entire process while being alive. In other words, i was right, the guy you saved is literally in pure state of pain and agony that it might be crueler to leave him alive and suffering. Maybe damming him to a much slower and more painfull death.
it would be great if at the end of the game the parasite attacked this friend and depending on whether you helped him or not there was a separate ending
The door closed meaning, the creature was released. But, indefinitely locked behind the doors with no one to keep them company, but, possibly it turns out to be able to find others locked up in "Eggs" and releases the others to freedom.
That is a moldman, and this is a fine detail: the door closes when you save him. The door remains open when you kill him. This suggests he does manage to remove his hand from the terminal so he might not be trapped there forever. Not sure he could make it, but at least he's not stuck in there for the rest of his life.
I strongly believe this world is a representation of the purgatory. At the end we clearly see a hall With a strong light at the end, but the parasite (a representation of the sin) attach to the protagonist's body, making him unworthy to enter the paradise.
@@LifeCompanionDogs8083 it means the first protagonist is a human? Was a human? If it is, I don't get why that thing wanted to attach to the alien's body and become a unmovable lump of flesh, that's why I believe the ending is symbolical.
@@crazypopcorn7801 Maybe the Human who turns into a parasite wants to Fuse with the alien in the end What if the parasite is actually good and trying to save the alien?
That thing wouldn't even alive if it was real, that thing must have a powerful immune system to be alive at this point and a lot of adrenaline just to move that painful body. Not only that, a trauma and a shock its body constantly receive, that thing would be pass out every minute if not second if that thing really has a powerful immune system and a powerful adrenaline produced by the body.
HIS entire back is exposed, his eyes look damaged, his fingers are glued together horribly, and he has no mouth. And he barely has any skin to protect his muscles, if he even has any muscles. He would be exposed to elements, become very cold, bleed from being moved, and his feet being very flat makes it impossible for his feet to support his weight. Hes pretty much a moving corpse like Mike Afton from fnaf.
God... it's like ending him would be the only ethical thing to do, just leaving him there on that machine or just the pain the two of you go through in general just feels brutal
It remembers me of that game where everyone were robots but tought they were humans and was below the water where you had a clone and could leave him alive or let him die
If this game does represent birth I’d like to think in a hypothetical what if ending both if the player and the creature escape together they become twins when going through the gate at the end.
whoever thought about this game, has the trophy for weirdest, creepy and insane ideas for a game like this but i wander- what will that creature or thing gonna do if it catches you
Beside killing or saving Snozzle Wozzle, the game looks to be lacking a Lot of challenges and achievements. It has Fantastic Art creation development but beside that.... the gameplay is really lacking and empty and this makes me not want to buy the game.
The game is completely free on Xbox Gamepass, so if you have one already it probably won't hurt to give it a shot solely for its atmosphere and aesthetics
what i find very cool is that if you put him on the scoop first hes actually freakks out like he knows whats going to happen, when you put him on the saw chair he is a lot more caalm
I saw in out of bounds that after the gate closes it gets freed and proceeds to get on its feed before being unloaded, if that much was animated its safe to assume, even if we don't see it, its gets on its feet's and can be as save as you can be in that distorted place.
i wonder why the parasite doesn't leave you for him if you let him live, seems like a totally plausible ending for this lil' fella to sacrifice himself for you.
This reminds me of this line is Skyrim during the war between the stormcloaks and the empire. A soldier in a medical tent can say... 'The pain! Somebody stop the pain!!'
I honestly didn't know there was an alternative to the saw. I just messed-around with the switch and ended-up finding the saw room first while trying to figure out what to do. I was even feeling bad for just letting them all alone, in the closed room after leaving. So now it's either starving to death or maybe found another way out. Still, I guess I'm glad that I found the saw first 😅 When I finish the game I shall look for more alternative scenarios
Given the game's very heavy theming, I kind of wonder if maybe this fella is a metaphor (or maybe allegory, can never remember which) for babies with birth defects, since he clearly wants to live but when you do free him from the "egg" he seems to be suffering, and there's sort of this moral dilemma of whether it's better to let him be born into a life where he'll have greater struggles than most of his kind seemingly would or whether it would be more merciful to kill him before he has to experience that hardship.
basically, world is apocalyptic, flesh is enery and infrastructure. These aren't humans, they're merely replicas and they're all made to sustain a dying species, with no hope left.
This is a necessary step on this production line. It presses the egg shell into a standard correct shape so that the next machine can work correctly. This can be seen on the top edge of the egg shell by comparing the shape before and after the machine.
So what does the machine prior to the scoop or saw do? It looks like it partially crushes the other, and distresses them significantly, but I can't see any change otherwise
Cracks the egg, kinda like if you are going to open a hard boiled egg you remove the shell by cracking it before peeling it away, It's a very thick shell so needs pressure.
@@agentburningbutters3655 There are at least three different mechanisms for producing three different forms of humanoid creature. Both PCs are of the same type - they seems to come from the 'Genesis Wall' outside of the building, then make their way in. This section of the facility seems to be a factory for growing/manufacturing another type of creature, which was staffed by the PC-type creatures. There's also an area later in the game for growing a larger, more human-like creature - but it's too decayed to be properly functional, and none of those it produces live. My interpretation is that the whole giant facility, whatever it may be, generates its own workers as well. They crawl from their birthing-pods already with the instinctual knowledge needed to operate the equipment, then proceed straight to their work-stations, like a giant insect hive. Whatever Shell Guy is supposed to be, there isn't a prefect success rate at growing them. The area is a production line: Grow, crack, inspect. Then either transport the healthy ones to the extraction room, or any malformed ones straight to the disposal room to be killed and recycled. There's one other machine present for doing something to them, but it's damaged to identify.
@@skeletonboi3077 Well I mean I know this game is a "represent-like" kind of way, and it would be really weird if they have.....factory-like in women's body 🤣. .....Also "thanks" to that my mind can't stop thinking about that scenes everytime I see a pregnant woman 😅
I feel bad for the creature that and one it will be kill, which is sort of emergency but in the other he’ll be trapped probably forever to one of the locks to the door probably be coming a dried up husk
And if you _pay attention_ you'll see the environment telling you the truth. The scoop room is full of empty shells, and the saw room has free bodies and shell pieces.
In this option the protagonist treats him well, lifts him carefully when he falls to the ground, waits for his time to make it all the way. Of course, the protagonist forces the little guy to open the gate, but the way the game conducts this scene doesn't imply that he stayed there to die. I believe that after the gate closes he is released.
@@skeletonboi3077 Spoiler Well, the protagonist at the end of the game didn't die, he was just trapped in that strange "mass of meat". So I think it would be possible for him to be freed, just like he freed the little guy.
I think it's just a normal reaction to things, if you're in pain, it's common to fight back or try to stop it, even if you want to die. Idk though just a thought
@@chaosclg the first protagonist became a parasite, then the said parasite attacked and merged with the second one, so yeah calling that unlucky is an understatement ☠️
@@chaosclg no matter how you twist it, dude was possessed by a parasitic/symbiotic creature (that may or may not be the previous MC) and fought for possession of the body throughout the whole thing, when he is obviously losing his body he managed to remove it just for it to take the more forceful approach by the end and literally donut-ed him pretty hard so he stops complaining and hand over his body, whatever you make off of the end doesn't make what the "second" MC had to go through any less unlucky, regardless of what they became at the end, even if it's a greater being in the making.
Seeing his first few steps was beautiful, he kept on falling down like a 3 year old. But he persisted and finally stood on his feet for the first time.
@@jckccfrom what I know from the art book dude wasn't always in that egg. He and others get crammed into it to be transported and used as a resource whether that's energy or food. Honestly dude just got his second chance
You understand that the game is creepy and disgusting. BUT, for some reason, you were very sorry for this creature who is clearly suffering and suffering. Yes! Even in this form, and you sympathize with an unknown being. A subtle detail in the game. Which awakens this feeling of compassion inside.
My second reaction when the machine turned the sphere around and was a lil guy, after "wat", looking those googly "pure" eyes I was like "kinda cute tho" xD
@Мистер твистер tell that to my heart and brain they don't think it's not that bad it's fucking worse then death anyway did you see my Dementia pills anywhere?
Hatchling: What is my purpose. Main: You open a door. Hatchling: NO, I mean what is my PURPOSE. Main: You open a door Hatchling: ..... oh my god. Main: Yeah, welcome to the club, pal.
I believe instead of calling it "help/save", " letting it live" or "not to kill it" is more suitable, since we don't know if it's going to survive by itself behind that gate anyway, and the fact the protagonist "freed it" was the cause of its latter suffering. Whichever you choose, you ultimately sacrificed it for yourself to get out.
And thats fine, BUT maybe we gave it a chance to be more than just some battery born to die, maybe he can live out the rest of its miserable life in relative peace or maybe free more of his kind so hes not alone Or hell get brutally torn apart or melted who knows
@@dev4159 ikr ? Killing a person IS justified if he had even the slightest of chance to live a short miserable life . Let’s go kill some babies or fetus, they definitely gonna appreciate us
Nah. The control probably releases him once the door closes. It would be a silly checkpoint design otherwise. Originally this door was probably meant to be operated by at least 2 people, and one person was always meant to be present inside.
@@SuperScarab a decade of work man and we get incredibly artwork with huge amount of cut content, I love the premise of this game and what was intended, but it feels like a demo with the amount of content missing.
That might actually be used to remove the contents of "bad eggs". They mightve been able to reuse the shells. Or that scooping machine mightve been made after whatever happened to these creatures. They mightve gotten infested/infected, and these eggs need to be cleared out.
@@UnknownMan98 Ooh, that seem to make sense of these things, as there are both a shell saw and a scoop discard. However, it doesn't seem like the Shells are reused in any other capacity either.