I swear Scott Hall was just one of those rare talents. I can't think of too many guys in the business that was a heel and a baby face and the fans still love you
@kdizzle901 mine too, he had all the attributes: he was big strong, excellent mic skills, could work, could sell and understood the business in and out.
He also wasn't selfish. He would put guys over and didn't have a problem doing it. And that could have kept him out of the world title picture. But absolutely among the best minds and best workers in the business. Too bad about the addiction.
@newwaveknight1 both Henning and Bret Hart were technical geniuses in the business , another one that didn't get credit was Billy Robinson who was a legit badass tough guy
I stopped watching in early 2000s. I recently caught a couple matches and it was a an acrobatic tumble fest. No rhyme or reason. It was like a video game with all special moves turned on at all times.
@DmanDice same, had gone off wrestling by 2002 ish - I just felt wrestling was dead after the attitude era - out of curiosity I'd go back now and then to see what became of it , it's even on My5 now and then but couldn't tell you who they are
@@CarlHosmer From what I can tell, it held on for a bit with Edge, Orton, Booker and few others. Then Punk Daniel Brian and a few really tried. But It seems like the womens side is getting more praise than the mens now days. (based on social media at least) At a bar last week I saw a match and I had no idea wtf they were doing. Every move looked like a finisher. The camera does this weird shaky thing and zooms in and out lol. REALLY takes you out of the context of anything being real.
Scott is right. It’s why so many people stopped watching wrestling. matches usually end about 10 minutes after they should have. And each person usually kicks out of about three of the finishing moves (I mean, what’s the point of even having finishing moves anymore). Then kicks out of getting slammed through a table thrown off a 20 foot ledge. And finally loses to a spear
The Top 5 Best RF Shoots i have seen are from Scott Hall Dusty Rhodes Barry Wyndam Ric Flair Bam Bam Bigalow.. Thaks to TMW for continuing to post these Shoots!
That BamBam shoot is definitely a top notch shoot. Of course he has an ego, but not much of it shines in that shoot. He is just a regular guy telling legendary stories.
these are the kinds of men who worked for vince.... THESE are the kinds of men who made that man BILLIONS and his brand globally recognized... and that dbag would go after them and their names that he owned but THEY made famous... God vincent has to be one of the luckiest men to have ever existed by having this type work force making you money
@@billybadass3056 It took me a while. It was really only when I realized that Vince frequently intentionally buried top stars from other companies. There were exceptions, but he almost always heavily reworked their gimmick. Flair and LOD are the main ones that come to mind, he let them maintain their gimmick. Guys like Austin, Dusty, Luger, he wasn't going to push unless their gimmick was something new. I'm glad Sting staid out of it mostly
Scott Hall was already that character in WCW BEFORE he went to WWF. Go watch The Diamond Studs promos, he used "The bad guy" catchphrase & threw the toothpick. WCW should have won that lawsuit that he was actually playing THEIR character as Razor Ramon
4:12 I've been searching for this story for weeks (told by somebody else), and it's so randomly in this video. Just the idea that Flair and Macho would get yelled like that, and have to redo it.
It’s a shame he didn’t get along with Flair. Bc he put on such a GREAT program partnering with him against Savage and Perfect in the ‘92 Survivor Series. The lead up, the match…Good Stuff.
Rick held him back Rick held a lot of people back D.D.P. and God knows who else WCW mean Mark callus WWF The undertaker WCW Vinny Vegas WWF Diesel WCW the diamond stud WWF Razor Ramon WCW god only knows what they called Paul WWF HHH nobody's not even mid card in WCW hall of famers main eventing WrestleMania and every other pay per view the best of the best and let's not forget WCW stunning Steve Austin WWF stone cold Steve Austin
@@jeff8613 For Austin I mostly blame Hogan. Look how much WCW was building up Austin until Hogan showed up. He won the TV title in 1992 and was one of the longest reigning TV champions in WCW. Then in 1993 he won the tag team titles with Brian Pillman as the Hollywood Blonds and they were very successful and held the belts for many months. And then at the end of 1993 he won the U.S. title against Dustin Rhodes at Starrcade 93 and held it until Steamboat beat him for it in August 1994 at the Clash. It wasn't until Hogan came that the push and clear buildup of Austin into a main eventer all ended. The biggest mistake they made was unifying the 2 world titles at that June 1994 Clash because of course Hogan wouldn't sign on unless he was the only champion. It was a move that deprived the other main eventers & heavyweights chances at world titles. It was because of those we had Rick Rude and Flair as champions with the NWA / WCW International World Title at the same time that Vader was WCW champion in parts of 1993 and how Sting & Rude were champions at the same time Flair was WCW champion in parts of 1994. I could've easily seen Austin winning the WCW International World Title had they kept it as such or the WCW heavyweight title while Hogan was champion had they kept both world titles or especially if Hogan never arrived to WCW. But both Flair & Hogan were title hogs who overstayed their welcomes. In no previous generation did any wrestler stay that long and be that selfish to screw over younger wrestlers who were in their primes from being the world champions like those 2 did. Ric Flair had no business ever getting any of the 2 belts again after he returned to WCW in 1993, especially in beating Vader at Starrcade 93, who would destroy him any day of the week. Same with Hogan when he arrived in WCW in 1994. That 1992-1994 pre-Hogan era of WCW was my favorite era of WCW with the talent they had and the different stars we saw being given title shots or outright getting the titles who in other times would've never been given the belts thanks to Flair & Hogan and there only being 1 world title. Had Curt Hennig been in WCW in that era, you can bet he would've likely been a world champion. Also, look at the push Vader got in 1993 and how he was the WCW champion almost uninterrupted throughout 1993 other than losing the belt to Sting in London in March 1993 and getting it back in Dublin 6 days later and then losing it to Flair at Starrcade in December and how once Hogan showed up, the only belt he ever won was the U.S. title from Jim Duggan at Starrcade '94. They screwed over Steamboat too who seemed like he was clearly favored to beat Flair for the belt at Spring Stampede '94 but because Hogan was coming and they wanted to have a Hogan-Flair PPV match for the first time in history, they screwed him over and gave him the U.S. title that Austin was holding which resulted in that great match between Austin & Steamboat where Steamboat injured his back to the point where he had to retire & give the belt back to Austin who at Fall Brawl lost it to Duggan.
Razor Ramon was one of my favorite gimmicks as a child. It's so interesting listening to these guys talk about the business from their standpoint. Curt Henning gave him some great advice R.I.P.
Hey, Yo! 5 letters and two words that Scott said better than anyone. I believe WCW allowed Scott Hall to get comfortable with job security and good pay to where Scott got lazy but prime Scott Hall with the toothpick (throw) his entrance where he'd shuffle his arms and hands, the snake finger touch, his vicious high boot, his vicious close line, his rope shake to hype the crowd and when he'd have his opponent locked in for the razors edge and throw his arms out to get the crowd hyped before lifting 200+ pound men up with ease for the iconic razors edge. Im sure I missed some stuff but my point is Scott Hall is one of the greatest to ever step in the squared circle and wrestle. Fly high Scott
Flair was owed a $25K deposit and Herd wouldn't pay so Flair took the belt. Turner Broadcasting must have agreed because they refunded the deposit plus 50% interest to get the belt back.
Yet he didn’t mention when Medusa threw her WWF Womens Title in the trash on Live TV. Flair was owed money. What was Medusa’s Excuse? Oh yea, Eric told her to.
@@fullweezy3553 this interview is from 2007. Way after it happened. WCW was sold in 2001, I believe. I could be a year or 2 off. But I understand your point. That he is referring to the incident it was before she did that, so yes.
Wrong. Taking the belt to the WWF at the time was the greatest thing that had ever happened. It rocked the wrestling world. I still remember it today screaming at the top of my lungs. Ric Flair is in the WWF. That’s his world title that Bobby Heenan is holding.
Did Ric Flair do the right thing? In my opinion, yes. He hadn't received the money he had put down for the belt, as was the custom for the NWA World title. it was a lot of money, and interest was also due. Jim Herd tried to screw him over. So, Flair did what he thought was right, and Vince told him to bring the belt to WWF, so it wasn't like he didn't realize that Flair was stabbing WCW....he handed him the knife.
While I would agree that Rick is very arrogant, he had every right to keep the belt. The story goes; When Rick was crossing the ropes, there was a deposit on that belt. It did not belong to Rick but he had to put up a large deposit to keep it. When he decided to cross the ropes, Rick tried to return the belt but the company was refusing to issue a check to return Rick’s deposit, so he held on to the belt. Too bad the other guys were insulted. Their concern is noted but not taken under advisement. Why? They have no skin in that fight. Want your belt back? Give me my money. No? I’m keeping the belt. I heard the belt cost around $10k to have made. Not sure about that tho
It's weird to see him complaining about what Flair doing to his booking in WCW when the Kliq was known for screwing guys over to help themselves. Pot calling the kettle black.
Apparently Scott doesn't understand that Rick had a significant Deposit of his own money that WCW refused to pay back. Court upheld that Rick had the right to posses the belt until WCW paid back the Deposit with Interest. Rick just couldn't show it on WWF tv because of copyright and trademark laws. I believe that Rick and Vince never had rick have the belt in front of a WWF house or TV Audience. Like Scott said, the shows weren't live, so Rick walked around with an old WWF belt and they blurred out that belt. So Scott is taking the oprotunity to Bury Rick about the Belt because as he says in this video he had HEAT with HOW FLAIR BOOKED HIM in WCW.
He says he was low on the totem pole. I wouldn't go that far. He's talking about sharing the ring with Mr. Perfect and so forth. Definitely top 5 for me, along with Perfect and Piper, of never holding the championship. (And I complained when Kane held it for a single day.)
Loved Scott, but his analysis here was off. The belt went from Randy back to Flair because Randy didn't pop business after the WM 8 title win. It wasn't about Flair being the standard-bearer or Vince fully getting behind Ric, or anything like that. Flair was being used as a transitional champ and Bret got it a little over a month later. Also, as others have pointed out, Ric was screwed out of his deposit and that was why he did what he did with the WCW belt. You can say a lot of negative things about Ric, and you'd be right, but the guy did not have an issue doing jobs or doing business.
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Scott didn't understand why Ric Flair took the NWA/ WCW World Heavyweight Title. Flair had a deposit on the belt. Did he knew during this interview, Title Match?
Second video I have seen this week mentioning how deceptively strong Shawn was. First the one where Cody says HBK picked him up off the ground in the back after Cody blew a superkick spot, and then this with Razor’s surprise at the impact of being shoved from behind by Shawn.
So… Hall says Flair was unprofessional by bringing the WCW belt, that he and Nash did the job on the way out to be professional, but he neglects to mention the Curtain Call, where he and Nash couldn’t be punished, leaving H to be the one hammered? Come on now…
People keep saying, "Flair was owed his deposit", well keep the belt amd go to court to get the deposit, don't take the belt to someone else's company and TV.
That's the problem with not knowing the back story about the belt and Flair. If you know the back story, everything Scott said here, he would not have said cause he is wrong. According to Scott, Flair should have given back the belt because that's what's good for business, and Flair would have been out I believe the amount is $26000. There is no reality in which I believe Scott Hall would have given the belt back not a chance.
A wealth of wrestling knowledge died the day Scott died. He has a top 5 brain for pro wrestling. In a perfect world, he should be with Shawn coaching the nxt talent.
@@solaradam7470 Rick Flair in the mid 1980s is not overrated if anything he is under appreciated. Maybe by The End of the 90s yeah he's overrated but not in the prime of his career
Flair said they weren’t going to give him his $20k or $25k deposit back for the belt. So he went to NY with the belt. Vince got sued immediately and that’s why they had the storyline of Jack Tunney or Gorilla Monsoon saying they wouldn’t recognize the big gold belt as legitimate and would blur it from tv.