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Scottish independence takes backseat in general election 

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Krishnan Guru-Murthy: The SNP is preparing to launch its election manifesto this week, promising to put independence on the first page.
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But how much does the issue matter to voters this time round?
Our Scotland Correspondent, Kathryn Samson, has been taking the temperature at some summer events.
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@ChrisMcFarlanee
@ChrisMcFarlanee 8 дней назад
Going to the border to ask about how the 5 people there are voting 😆
@RW-nr6bh
@RW-nr6bh 7 дней назад
Are they Second Class Scots? Don't they count because they vote the "wrong" way on such things? They're the people you actually need to win over.
@barriewillimas9016
@barriewillimas9016 7 дней назад
I think Scotland should be given independence IF they win the euros!!!
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
If they win the euros, Give them seats in Holyrood.
@ohno521
@ohno521 6 дней назад
​@@basicconcepts1d can we add some boxers for entertainment 😂😂😂
@gregorious123
@gregorious123 8 дней назад
Lady at 4mins "from a personal point of view I think they need to start focusing on the country and not independence". But aren't they just doing that? Unionists will not understand this.
@DSQueenie
@DSQueenie 8 дней назад
Are they?
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
Thir too bizzy Dippin the Till. Theivin Gets.
@banzaighost
@banzaighost День назад
​@@basicconcepts1dthat's tories and Labour (pfi 30bn bill from Tony brown and their cronies)... snp have stolen an napkin.... fyi, the campervan was registered in 2021 audit, so that wasn't even the napkin... yet HOW MANY died thanks to tory austerity. VoteSNPGetIndy 💩🕳🗑🔥🟫👔🇬🇧⚰🖕
@nicolass7102
@nicolass7102 8 дней назад
Brexit mess
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 8 дней назад
Absolutely Brexit was a catastrophe, just like independence will be.
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 7 дней назад
@@Celticsamuraiblue it's such a shame a majority of Scots don't agree with you 😂
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
@@Red1Green2Blue3 Yes they do & you talk as much 💩 as the Tory party 🤢🤮 👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 6 дней назад
@@Celticsamuraiblue so what happened in the referendum? 😂😂😂
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 6 дней назад
@@Celticsamuraiblue not according to the law 😂
@davi22034
@davi22034 8 дней назад
Scotland should never have trusted english Conservatives and remained in this messy union taken by neoliberals
@kazor1367
@kazor1367 8 дней назад
LOL neoliberals didn't create the union.
@fella7476
@fella7476 8 дней назад
independence is extremely dumb
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
What is the point of voting for Independence and then handing your Sovereignty over to the EU. Then you become a vassal state dictated to by the French and Germans. Look at the mess this has created in Ireland. You must be insane to want to impose that on the people off Scotland.
@highlandsprings5752
@highlandsprings5752 5 дней назад
I mean the people of Scotland would largely disagree with you on that one mate but sure, Who needs publicly authorised mandates when we could just make 💩 up, I mean after all the national animal is a Unicorn.
@eugdee7293
@eugdee7293 8 дней назад
You can get the Tories out by voting SNP. We need tactical voting in England to really get ALL TORIES out. This includes people like Starmer, Streeting and Reeve. There is no point only voting out the Tories in the Conservative Party if we are going to be lead by Sir Genoicide and his Tory takeover of what used to be the Labour Party, now it is split between being Thacher’s Labour and an Israeli lobby party.
@RMProjects785
@RMProjects785 7 дней назад
dumb analysis
@glasgovipsolara
@glasgovipsolara 8 дней назад
+70% of 16 - 24 year olds consistently express support for independence in polling since 2014. This is only going to go one way.
@Calcearius
@Calcearius 8 дней назад
Bullshit, 16-24 year olds were 54% in favour of remaining in the union in 2014. The most recent poll shows 57% now support remaining. Try a google search to make sure the answers you're trying to lie about aren't so easily obtainable you donut.
@joepopplewell680
@joepopplewell680 7 дней назад
Young people will realize that breaking the country in 2 will be as worse if not more than Brexit. Most of the will for independence comes from having a right wing government in office ruining the country for 14 years, I imagine it will go down if things get better under labour. SNP aren't in a good shape and I doubt they will have a leader like Sturgeon or Salmond. Polls often capture feelings, not actual reality.
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
As they become older and wiser, they will lose interest in the left wing Ideology of their youth and become more centre right. Just like the rest of us.
@ronanmurphy98
@ronanmurphy98 6 дней назад
Same argument was made in Quebec in the 90s, and nothing happened.
@glasgovipsolara
@glasgovipsolara 6 дней назад
@@ronanmurphy98 - only the supremely ignorant would imagine Scotland, a formerly independent nation that entered into a treaty of union with another, to be in similar circumstances to Quebec or Catalunya regarding self-determination. Apples and oranges.
@menwithven8114
@menwithven8114 8 дней назад
I don't understand how ANY citizen of ANY country doesn't have independence as the #1 issue.
@fspg3207
@fspg3207 8 дней назад
Try thinking...!
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 8 дней назад
The UK is already independent, why would it be a #1 issue
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
The NATS Canna coont. Gae back tae skale and lern yir sums.
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
@@fspg3207Another fool
@mickeymouse3933
@mickeymouse3933 7 дней назад
@@basicconcepts1danother traitor so you are! How can you be for England ruling Scotland and its finances while we get backhanded pennies of our own money! Open your eyes - how can Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Irelands New Zealand and so many others do fine but Scotland can’t? Are we that useless our own people don’t have faith in our country? If that is the case we truly are doomed!
@kevinwilliams1768
@kevinwilliams1768 8 дней назад
Scotland should of been an Independent country long time .
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
1707 was the last time. A lot of water has passed below the bridge since then. Read a History book ffs.
@taurus-eg5xu
@taurus-eg5xu 8 дней назад
When labour get in it wont be dancing in the streets it will Turkish barber's and tents.
@askosefamerve
@askosefamerve 7 дней назад
Turks and migrants still keep coming with Conservatives ruling, so your point is?
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
Read the SNP Manifesto. Inclusion and Internationalism. What is it that you don't understand about that Policy.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 8 дней назад
Labour's Ian Murray has made it clear that, should he become Labour's Secretary Of State for Scotland, he will run his office as if Scotland were a colony of England; effectively cutting out the Scottish Parliament from the equation and making himself a quasi-viceroy of the territory. Utterly disgusting.
@eugdee7293
@eugdee7293 8 дней назад
Oh yes the typical English nationalist party view of Scotland. We already seen how Sir Genocide feels about Scottish voices in parliament when he ensured that the SNP opposition day had all Scottish voices quashed. Margret Thacher’s Labour Party is taking over, don’t expect anyone who is not English and a mate of a tool made by a tool maker to benefit from the Israeli lobby group that used to be the Labour Party.
@andrewjones-productions
@andrewjones-productions 8 дней назад
Well, I hope he does. That is because the Scottish (and Welsh) electorate need to be reminded that whomever forms the Government in Westminster will always, always put England first. Sarmer has already made it abundantly clear that he is against Scottish independence and will do anything to protect the union (thus far, fair enough), but more poignantly he has no intention whatsoever in improving the political inequality amongst the four nations. The latter is the real problem, not necessarily the opinion of preserving the union.
@eugdee7293
@eugdee7293 8 дней назад
@@andrewjones-productions which union? Is it the unequal union between England and their two unequal countries that they control (Scotland and Wales) plus the two thirds of an Irish province that is under English occupation. Or the European Union? Starmer is an Israeli lobbyist and apologists. He supported war crimes, genocide and breaking international law. Domestically he voted alongside his Tory mates to ensure that state sponsored domestic terrorists who murdered 14 innocent Uk citizens in Derry will never face prosecution. His treatment of Diane Abbot shows how he feels about the black community, he had to be shamed to pretend he was not racist. Really he is what the work view as English. Zero morals, compulsive liar who cannot be trusted.
@DSQueenie
@DSQueenie 8 дней назад
Where did he say this?
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
@4247. After all, Scotland is a regional council and can be effectively run by the Scottish Secretary. The current system of PR has turned Holyrood into a very expensive Circus. The Corruption involving the SNP would embarrass your average Banana Republic. You all know who they are!.
@pianoflat
@pianoflat 8 дней назад
🇬🇧🔚🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💪👍
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
The union is FINISHED 👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺
@user-fx2xv5gc8i
@user-fx2xv5gc8i 3 дня назад
independance is a must .this election is a way to show independance can happen a vote for blue labour will mean we may never get the chance for independance
@gottmituns813
@gottmituns813 8 дней назад
Scotland deserve independence.
@highlandsprings5752
@highlandsprings5752 5 дней назад
And England deserves to be separated from the parasitical Organism just north of its border.
@90taetaeya
@90taetaeya 8 дней назад
Free Scotland!
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 8 дней назад
Free them from the SNP and their embezzling leaders!
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
@@Red1Green2Blue3Scotland is leaving this JOKE FINISHED UNION👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 7 дней назад
@@Celticsamuraiblue It's not though, is it 😂 what does it say on your passport lad? 😂😂😂
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
@@Red1Green2Blue3 Desperado 😡🤬This joke union is FINISHED 👎🏻🇬🇧 🥵 COPE 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺😎
@Red1Green2Blue3
@Red1Green2Blue3 7 дней назад
@@Celticsamuraiblue You're still in the union mate 😂 it's you who's struggling to cope 😂
@mr.coolmug3181
@mr.coolmug3181 4 дня назад
Trying to interview someone while they're dancing is just the kind of genius move I'd expect from the BBC. 👍👍 I guess we need something moving across our screens to keep out attention.
@Glasgow_kiss
@Glasgow_kiss 8 дней назад
its amazing what news you can make if you go out looking for it with a view to portraying a certain agenda. thats why you were in the borders, long time unionists. thats why you showed only views that held a unionist narrative. confirmation bias reporting.
@nicolass7102
@nicolass7102 8 дней назад
Vote scotland indipendence
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 8 дней назад
It's not really independence though. Czechia did not gain independence from Slovakia and vice versa. The union between Scotland and England is merely a business arrangement that has run its course. Time for the two parties to follow their own paths.
@Calcearius
@Calcearius 8 дней назад
You can't even spell independence.
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
@7102. Never in a Million Years.
@highlandsprings5752
@highlandsprings5752 5 дней назад
@@Celticsamuraiblue If you ask the English to vote for you you'd leave even faster, Cope harder lad 🤡
@highlandsprings5752
@highlandsprings5752 5 дней назад
Another sad product of the Scottish education system, Isn't the average IQ of a Scotsman 85 or something? I would at least have expected you to be able to spell the word independence correctly, Oh well I'm sure you can blame it on something else that isn't yourself.
@liam1561
@liam1561 5 дней назад
Hard border.
@stephenfowlie742
@stephenfowlie742 8 дней назад
Scotland hasnt voted conservative since 1955, the best way to beat them is to vote for Independence! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
The sooner Scotland leaves this JOKE FINISHED UNION THE BETTER 👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺
@colinsmith1288
@colinsmith1288 3 дня назад
​@@Celticsamuraiblue Yep and watch the SNP turn Scotland into the new Ireland. Not looking good for them with mass cultural enrichment.
@stephenfowlie742
@stephenfowlie742 3 дня назад
@@stunews2903 What are talking about? In 1979 most of Scotland voted Conservative or labour not the SNP you muppet.
@stunews2903
@stunews2903 3 дня назад
@@stephenfowlie742 You're the muppet voting SNP, you know nothing about Scottish political history and SNP sell-outs to the Tories.
@stunews2903
@stunews2903 3 дня назад
@@Celticsamuraiblue 17 years of SNP and Scotland on its knees. independence would bankrupt us.
@ohno521
@ohno521 6 дней назад
Not this again 😮
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 5 дней назад
🧐What another b/s scam artist Tory Government .??
@ScotMcFadyen-kp3jd
@ScotMcFadyen-kp3jd 8 дней назад
Unionist reporter only talking to unionists as usual....
@MaximusWild
@MaximusWild 8 дней назад
Stay salty you Nationalist bigot 😂😂
@highlandsprings5752
@highlandsprings5752 5 дней назад
Ah yes of course everybody knows of the great one sided bastion of unionism known as a Channel 4 News 😂. Your statement is utterly insane until you realise that scotland's national animal is a Unicorn and then you realise it's just part of the course with you people.
@christineallan4325
@christineallan4325 День назад
These folk ha e no understanding of their history or the fact that independence is the road to a fairer society and better opportunities for the future generations.. #ScottishIndependence 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@theevilapples
@theevilapples 8 дней назад
Talk of chocking for labour
@david1731048
@david1731048 8 дней назад
"Independence, and the SNP are the party that will do that" Oh god. Wake up.
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
Never in a Million Years.
@RealOGfikey
@RealOGfikey 7 дней назад
Moving tories from office is a smaller fish issue in comparison to removing the English jackboot from the Scottish throat altogether.
@RMProjects785
@RMProjects785 7 дней назад
THE UNION SHALL PREVAIL - RULE BRITANNIA !!!!!!!!
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
You seem to have a preference for the EU Jackboot. Another effing numpty!.
@RealOGfikey
@RealOGfikey 7 дней назад
@@RMProjects785 What's it like being a pathetic and small-minded bootlicker?
@grahamknapp1322
@grahamknapp1322 8 дней назад
Any independence supporter join Salvo liberation Scotland a non political party its the peoples of Scotland That are sovereign . Sign up the more names om the list we get our case to the United Nations in New York .
@thefastandthedead1769
@thefastandthedead1769 6 дней назад
Well said!
@Tobi-ln9xr
@Tobi-ln9xr 8 дней назад
One thing which surprised me the most after seeing the pictures and videos of Munich at the Euros is how Scotland, despite having so much pride and patriotism, still voted "NO“ in the independence referendum in 2014…
@lizziestevenson1908
@lizziestevenson1908 8 дней назад
I didn't trust the count- very dubious.
@robertjohn6585
@robertjohn6585 8 дней назад
​@@lizziestevenson1908" everything that doesn't go my way is a conspiracy theory".
@overkoppsbaiter0714
@overkoppsbaiter0714 7 дней назад
Thats because us Scots were lied to. The british promised we would stay apart of Europe if we voted no
@RW-nr6bh
@RW-nr6bh 7 дней назад
​@@lizziestevenson1908 Very Trumpian.
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
We have Brains along with pride and patriotism.
@thomHD
@thomHD 8 дней назад
Elect the Tories / Reform, get Scottish Independence. Just a little something for the right to think about.
@lizziestevenson1908
@lizziestevenson1908 8 дней назад
Mmm..
@republic_0537
@republic_0537 6 дней назад
Typical channel 4 headline 😂
@XxTheAwokenOnexX
@XxTheAwokenOnexX 5 дней назад
An independent Scotland would give their sovereignty away to Europe 😂
@andrewwotherspoona5722
@andrewwotherspoona5722 5 дней назад
England vs Europe? Choose your poison! How about neither.
@blair3264
@blair3264 3 дня назад
Not true. EU membership is another matter. Totally independent (if you pardon the pun) from the question of independence from the union.
@specialcandletrust6531
@specialcandletrust6531 8 дней назад
Is this the BBC ??
@SomebodyOnTheInternet98
@SomebodyOnTheInternet98 8 дней назад
You are watching this video via the Channel 4 News RU-vid channel, so no. They even have their logo in the left hand corner and also at the end of the video if you remain unconvinced.
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
No. Are you blind or just Guggit?.
@user-rk9it9hz6g
@user-rk9it9hz6g 8 дней назад
Is it me or were some of them independence activists American?
@arbbr9397
@arbbr9397 7 дней назад
Shallow understanding of the Scottish accent
@StozySco
@StozySco 8 дней назад
People really are daft.
@stephenwalker2924
@stephenwalker2924 8 дней назад
You are people.
@StozySco
@StozySco 8 дней назад
Only a person
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
15 years of TORY B/S that Scotland didn’t vote for. 👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
17 years of deception, embezzlement and corruption that Scotland didn't vote for.
@sharadjain2463
@sharadjain2463 7 дней назад
Scotland should get independence from Britain and Northern Ireland also .
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
The sooner the people of Scotland TAKE THEIR INDEPENDENCE THE BETTER 👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺
@sharadjain2463
@sharadjain2463 7 дней назад
@@Celticsamuraiblue yes we support you from India.
@JimmyJr630
@JimmyJr630 6 дней назад
@@sharadjain2463Why would you support an independence movement that less than half of Scotlands population agree with?
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 6 дней назад
@@JimmyJr630You are full of lies , just like the conservative government are.
@JimmyJr630
@JimmyJr630 6 дней назад
@@Celticsamuraiblue What? I never lied
@mrdemocracy7106
@mrdemocracy7106 7 дней назад
The Scottish Numpty Party! Always good for a laugh. The Numpties are an Embarrassment to Scotland
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
Scotland is LEAVING THIS JOKE FINISHED UNION👎🏻🇬🇧 COPE 🤬 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
@mrdemocracy7106. They also bring shame on the Nation with their Deception, Embezzlement and Corruption.
@mickeymouse3933
@mickeymouse3933 7 дней назад
The only numpty here is you supporting England Robbing Scotland for years and continuing to! Open your eyes they would throw us to the side if they didn’t need us!
@Christinebanks11
@Christinebanks11 8 дней назад
You guys had the chance To be independent you ruined it
@CriticalTheoryIsNonsense
@CriticalTheoryIsNonsense 8 дней назад
Scottish Independence took a back seat when the Scottish people decided to remain in the United Kingdom 10 years ago.
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
That was a once in a Generation Referendum. Ask again in another 20 Years.
@CriticalTheoryIsNonsense
@CriticalTheoryIsNonsense 7 дней назад
@@basicconcepts1d Are you telling me to ask in 20 years? If so, you're confused about my comment.
@basicconcepts1d
@basicconcepts1d 7 дней назад
I meant to suggest that they can hold another Referendum in 20 years. My apologies for any misunderstanding.
@CriticalTheoryIsNonsense
@CriticalTheoryIsNonsense 6 дней назад
@@basicconcepts1d No worries, my mistake 👍
@glasgovipsolara
@glasgovipsolara 23 часа назад
@@basicconcepts1d - Scots can have a referendum every week if a majority vote for it. THAT’S democracy!
@GTA5Player1
@GTA5Player1 8 дней назад
Voting Lib Dem would actually be the strategic choice! Let's help make the Lib Dems the lead opposition
@happeningkorea
@happeningkorea 8 дней назад
🇬🇧 🇬🇧 🇬🇧
@Celticsamuraiblue
@Celticsamuraiblue 7 дней назад
👎🏻🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿☮️🇪🇺
@AnonDude-fb5lz
@AnonDude-fb5lz 8 дней назад
I’m voting Reform
@blair3264
@blair3264 3 дня назад
​@@Celticsamuraiblue Why would you want to join the EU after becoming independent? I am pro-independence but being in the EU isn't independence.
@rocon86
@rocon86 8 дней назад
Didn't Scotland already have a vote for their independence but they s+it all over the graves of their ancestors who died for Scotlands independence by rejecting it?
@bigships
@bigships 3 дня назад
The same ancestors who came crawling to England when they were bankrupt?
@mauriciolizarbe4835
@mauriciolizarbe4835 8 дней назад
Scotland must stay part of the United Kingdom
@mrdemocracy7106
@mrdemocracy7106 7 дней назад
Without the Scottish Numpty Party. The Village mince idiots are an Embarrassment to Scotland
@RozelleMacLaren
@RozelleMacLaren 6 дней назад
WHY
@bigships
@bigships 3 дня назад
@@RozelleMacLarenbecause Scotland will collapse if it leaves the union
@terrygrady8413
@terrygrady8413 8 дней назад
They are slowly realising independence is a stupid ideal. Devolution across the UK has also failed Wales and Northern Ireland probably the worst.
@Jesus420.69
@Jesus420.69 8 дней назад
Independence is a non-issue now, other than to those who still vote SNP.
@jackdubz4247
@jackdubz4247 8 дней назад
It's very much an issue. How can it be right that one party (England) can claim dominion over another (Scotland)? How is that just?
@Jesus420.69
@Jesus420.69 8 дней назад
@@jackdubz4247 the act of union turned two kingdoms into one. The United Kingdom is a unitary state. Like upper and lower Canada merged into a single country. The USA, Brazil, Canada, Australia, Germany etc. The Scottish people said no, just like the other nations mentioned would likely do, too.
@thomasreilly6362
@thomasreilly6362 8 дней назад
If you have children it sure is a big issue. Labour have NO interest in joining the EU
@mr.afrikaans1747
@mr.afrikaans1747 8 дней назад
@@jackdubz4247independence won’t bring the things indi voters want. If you think Brexit was bad and like performing the removal of someone’s appendix, then independence will be like a monkey trying to do brain surgery. It’ll be far, far worse.
@aleph8888
@aleph8888 8 дней назад
Scotland had a vote in 2014. Scottish independence is largely an internet campaign supported by Russian bots.
@stunews2903
@stunews2903 3 дня назад
And thanks to the SNP Thatcher became Prime Minister in 1979 and never went away.
@banzaighost
@banzaighost День назад
Aye those whole 6 MPs, not the 11 LABOUR MPs voting against THEIR OWN GOVT.... no no, it was the BigBadSNP 🤦 the facts are recorded in hansard, even from back then... do you the facts and stfu till you do 💩🇬🇧🤡🤦
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