SD40-2 Stalls While Trying To Pull A Monster GR-1 Train Into Ridgewood Plant 

Likewise, takes me back to living in Bakersfield in 1990 as a kid and hearing and feeling the Southern Pacific trains rumble past our school and neighbourhood.

Pardon my ignorance. So the SD 40-2 literally the engine cut out for a multitude of reasons Governor electrical fuse overheat low oil what have you and the SD 70 engine is simply idling but isolated and not providing power to the train is that correct?

@@acts2211 that's how railroads work lol. Depending on the train and urgency of moving the freight. Most railroads will basically run the bare minimum for power on low priority trains to save fuel. Or have knotch restrictions. Here in canada it's usually about .6 hpt. Intermodal trains is what you want to be on. 1.2 1 3 hpt. Fricken rockets on the main

Yep. NS ups/ intermodal gets wide open runs. Everything g stop for them. Got to go a few runs from atl to Linwood and Greenville

@Andy Properw

VIVA LA SD40-2!!

I agree, those old warriors can still hold their own.

SeaboardRailfanner Sorry for the late reply but do you know why the SD70 wasn't running?

ShmotzGaming not sure, it may have sprung some sort of issue because it was running soon after

@@CyberSoldat Possibly for fuel conservation.

blackflagqwerty no they aren't

But as far as older power is concerned, they are close to it

@@j-z6871 Name another 6-axle locomotive that is as unbreakable as an SD40-2. I sure can't think of any, but I suppose the SD70M comes very close.

Where is it exactly?

typical railfan comment

Did you see it surging after it was restarted? I seriously wonder if it didn't have a plugged filter or actually low on fuel?

Nice video man !

dave allen thanks!

There's a pretty rough grade from Royster Rd. (distant signal) all the way into the plant. The north leg of the wye turnout isn't much help either.

Robert Gift auto shut down most likely. On the NS our older EMD power doesn't like to start back up on its on own after auto shutting down. CSX probably has the same issue.

Paublo79 Oh. Thank you, Paublo. What causes auto shutdown? Overheated traction motors? Engine coolant overheat or coolant level loss?

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No they auto shut down after not moving for an extended period of time to conserve fuel.

+talesin- god of the internet Don't forget crankcase overpressure.

thanks, did not know that before.

Yeah our Metra F40PH-3's do that too sometimes. You'll be walking through the coaches cutting tickets and then all of the sudden the lights and A/C go out at 70 MPH. LOL

lol that sounds kinda terrifying lol

It wasn't nearly as bad as you state. Where I was doing 25 was the 45 mph zone and I sped up once I hit the 55 coming out of town, trust me I live here, I know where its safe to run like that. Oh and the traffic wasn't going nearly as fast as you hint. Plus the highway was wide open. There wasn't any risk of a pileup or accident of any sort.

SeaboardRailfanner You passed a 55 sign at 20-25 mph. It doesn't sound like traffic is heavy but there is a constant stream of cars coming by you. You're a moving roadblock at less than half the speed limit: that is not safe and not much less dangerous than just parking your car in the highway. Please do not do it.

Yeap.. Typical foamers.

soxlosenow an ignorant comment from someone who can't see the road and has no idea of the traffic in my area. I rest my case. If you don't like my videos, feel free to leave.

Ikr,just watch the dam video or leave if you complain about him not doing the speed limit rather than watch the train video,which is the sole purpose

Empty cars! But let's assume that there's 6300t, SD40-2 alone can pull it, trust me, and the 8011 did not exeed notch 3 and was at 20mph, at notch 8 it would go 60mph! There's around 2000t and less with 71 car ×30t (and less when empty), okay with addition of SD70MAC 2200t max!

+Syclone0044 Yes, all SD40 series units are turbocharged. The turbo isn't exactly what you're used to - these engines are uniflow two stroke diesels and as such, require charged air to run. On the turbocharged EMDs, this is accomplished by connecting the compressor shaft on the turbo, through an overrun clutch, to the camshaft gears by a 12:1 step-up - i.e. the compressor shaft, when under drive from the engine, is turning at 12x the rotation speed of the engine. Once the exhaust has enough velocity to drive the turbo direct, the unit decouples from the engine drive and freewheels - powered by the exhaust. The extra boost varies due to engine load. There is no boost/manifold pressure gauge. The turbo compressor outputs into airboxes located on each bank. The airbox contains the charged air necessary for the engine to run, as a uniflow two stroke engine cannot aspirate directly on its own. The airboxes supply charged air to air ports at the bottom of each cylinder bore, uncovered by the piston in the downstroke. The exhaust is expelled through the cylinder heads via 4 standard poppet valves, driven by overhead camshafts, one on each bank. The bottom to top scavenging is referred to as 'uniflow'. These units, the first of which was built in 1966 (as an SD40), and 1972 (as an SD40-2), do not have air conditioning from the factory. That practice did not begin until the late 1980s with the proliferation of the comfort cab (widenose).

i work on boats and we use 4 16 645 emds to provide power to electric drive motors.... when you get 4 of those turbos up off the clutches at the same time the noise is incredibly loud. they are probably my favorite diesels to work on in the fleet (other than our detroit 60 generators) but sadly due to epa regs the classic emd is going away for us. no more new builds using emd 2 stroke engines :( the new tier 4 engines are basically redesigned cats...

the answer is no we do not have boost manifold gauges we only have gauges that show our Ampurage to the traction motors.

+NiceMuslimLady these are rotary dump hoppers. They literally are turned upside down and dumped

I know they do that with coal and stuff...but those are open hoppers. These look like covered hoppers. They must be able to take the top off to unload.

These carry dry rock to the port of Tampa. Its the only place in the world that you will see these in action, along one freight line, unless they move for repairs or scrap.

It's DAP or diamonium phosphate.

I was gonna say . . .

They are used for wet rock

I'm starting to learn about this. Educate me please. So what is the reason for another loco if its not helping pull the load? I would figure its a waste of fuel having only one doing the work of pulling a dead weight loco plus the train load.

+Itto i live in Nz and here they hook up 2 locos at most sometimes more depending on what they are towing. but yea usually the second loco does thr work cause u hear it but the first does the controlling but yea to answet 100% i cant ill ask and get back to ya

+Emmanuel Habtegabre Sometimes to transport power or if one loco has a problem and cant be used they have a backup.

svelements yeah i figured the same aye haha

+Genki Itto additional locomotives *are* used to provide additional power. the is the whole purpose of MU in this case, they were hauling empties so I am sure the MAC was shut down to save fuel. The MAC will be used when they have to pull the loaded cars

Close. It's an SD70MAC.

I know this crew personally. the local crews here all know us and so do the train masters

+willibill c The crews could care less. They know you're railfans.

David Schneider plus I personally know this engineer.

We never though about guys driving around taking pics as anything but that. Age of terrorism, never entered our minds.

+David Schneider I wouldnt worry too much about the "terrorism" bullshit. Maybe around a busy passenger station there might be an over reactive concern, but seriously a freight train out on an open track? And what about train crews who record cab rides then post them on social media or youtube for the world to see. It could be argued that doing that is wrong too, and a possible security issue. which it isnt. Anyone can film almost anything in the public domain and guess what? TV stations do it all the time for their news.

It's a unit phosphate train, in this case empty, headed to the Mosaic Bartow facility.

It has a battery pack. Some models use a small turbine powered by the trainline air to provide power.

"Welp, time to put her in neutral, get out, and start pushing."

Freedomtower Studios the train shut down it didn't stall.

MzZzLzZz that's not how they do it they have to punch a button . plus I didn't stall, it shut down

The train crews feel like complete failures in the game of life, when their train stalls.

I see what youre saying but it doesnt work that way. Each locomotive only generates enough amps to power itself. The jumper cables connected between locomotives when running together sends the same commands from the lead unit. in this case the other locomotive is just dead weight. perhaps it was bad ordered and marked not to operate or something happened to it earlier in the trip and had to be shut down hence the sd40 having to do the work

Thank you, KingsTiger222 What about "locomotives" which have no cab or engine? (I forget what they are called.) "SLUGS" ? Thought their traction motors were run from power from the lead locomotive.

LIKE A SLUG CAN IT DO THIS I NEVER HEARD OF A CAB UNIT USE LIKE A SLUG AND IT GO FASTER ?

Robert Gift the engine consist is called a cow and a calf

+TheBlueHero22 That was my old Nikon Q820, it cost me 200 roughly

thanks!!

They're for hauling phosphate.

Phosphate. It's used for fertilizer.

zippa .way good one

09trainman OK now I know

I only think that steam trains can burst, not diesel. Also, it's likely low fuel or water.

This is a much older video, I have a scanner now. Makes life much easier

He didnt he called the plant

1. These aren't grain cars. They are Phosphate cars. 2. The second engine is shutdown for fuel usage purpose. To add to that the first locomotive was doing fine hauling this load by it self anyways.

Well sorry I didn't k they where that kind

Phosphate. It's used for fertilizer.

Ok, thanks!

Phosphate.

No.

+Jacob Nelson dunno what GR-1 means but that is an ore train hauling phosphate

They're "rotary gondolas" and idk about the -1

Because that is a unit train of GR1 hoppers

@@BoneValleyFilms I learned something! Been pulling those cars around for 25 years and never heard them called GR-1. We call them rotary dumps or stretch tops.

You've probably seen me trackside at some point! I drive a dark blue car these days

What usually happens is that the electronic air brake system in newer locomotives breaks down. Although the SD40-2 has the dash 2 modules so they have some control over the air brakes, however they just consist of mostly passive components and some bipolar transistors. So sometimes the more simple things are, the more reliable they are.

Ah mk that explains it, i see this a lot on trains. So what is a Dead Pull Unit? i here this term a lot. I been researching it online, nothing comes up to explain what it means.

+Dr. Leonard hofstadter a deadhead unit or Dead In Tow unit is one that isn't being used, it's in neutral and just being transported

Flat tire.