Thank you for the quick follow up review on this model. I wish they had designed the T3A unit the way they did with this one. Like so often it depends on the use case but IMHO the more versatile general purpose unit is the T3A. Of course the T3B is suitable for all PCB or fine electronics (especially SMD) stuff but I can hardly imagine soldering speaker terminals, thicker wires or anything else demanding a bigger contact area with these tiny 210 cartridges. Searching the JBC portfolio the cartridge range for the 245 handle is so much wider going from a fine 0.6mm chisel up to 6.6mm whilst for the 210 handle it stops at 2mm. Damn Choices.
The Difference is: No 245 handle option with T3B T3A has better power rating (on paper) 200W vs. 90 W Better Cradle not available as a reasonable priced bundle with the T3A (as of this writing) T3B Setup with better cradle integration and different wiring Very well explained starting at: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ds2Xq3dwV30.html
It seems these stations just keep getting better and better! One question: If you had to pick between all of these Chinese stations, what would you like best?
@@MichaelGiacomelli IIRC Quick does some tweezers. I believe they're a cartridge style ordeal kinda like the Weller ones, instead of 2 individual cartridge tips.
After seeing your previous video, I purchased the T3A version, and it's amazing how good it flow solder even with the included tips. I had a hakko 888d, and the T3A its superior in every way, with the hakko with a similar curve tip I have tobput the temperature all the way to 450 to do any soldering. Can you do a comparison on the t3a with the C245 genuine jbc abd the included tip, see how much better the jbc is.
Damn! Those Stations are good. This gonna be the second unit I straightly buy after your video. I was looking for a second unit for my (formerly ordered after your T3A video) T3A station - and I already saw this T3B thing, but couldn't spin my head around it. But the performance you've shown is pretty decent, given that it has those itty-bitty-tiny soldering tips available. You should really negotiate some kind of affiliate links for these with the manufacturer, since this will become the second piece of kit I'm gonna buy - to replace my 12 year old Hakko gear. All I need for absolute happiness now is a hot-air which could compete with the Quick 861 and I'm fully committed to Aixun, even earning some social credit, I guess.
I have another hot air station to review shortly. I don't think there's much difference between them all though honestly. I actually prefer the Quick 857DW+ out of most of the hot air stations I've tried, the analogue controls make it very quick to use.
I think I will keep my ksger t12 that I got only last year. If they made a soldering station just like this that supported all three JBC handles T245, T210 and T115 I would consider upgrading. If it additionally supported my existing T12 handles I would upgrade without thinking about it. The UI could also be a bit more intuitive. It would be nice if the presets could be changed by just cycling through them using a single button. As it is right now it requires too many steps.
Very very strange where is the aixun t3b's metal holder? on every aliexpress page you can only find the plastic model.... if you find it, show me the link
Hi. Can you check if the PSU output is floating please? (measure the voltage between the soldering iron tip and mains earth to check there is not half mains potential on the tip like you’d get on any USB power supply output). I’d be amazed if JBC, Metcal or Pace measure more than millivolts, but I don’t trust Chinese stations to get it right. EDIT: paused video at 7:29 it looks like it is earthed… but I’d still be interested if you verify. I also saw another comment saying they got a shock from the tip.
One question I have is: how durable is the AIXUN T3B unit? I have an older JBC I purchased in 2011. It is still going. I do not solder as much as I used to, but the unit still holds up. I am looking to update to a more modern system without costing me a kidney.
thank you for this video. I'm considering getting this. I like that this has smaller handle than the aixun T3A (245). are their Cartridges in the C210 series that are bigger to use for general purpose. in other words, if you get this T3B, do they have large enough tips to similate normal soldering you need regular tips for ? the advantage for me is the much smaller size handle with this T3B over the T32A 245 model. thanks
For mainly throughole work would you say the T3A is the better option? Worried that the T3B wont have the grunt, but know the design of the T3A with its port on the front of the unit would bother me......any other T245 compatible stations with looking at?
Why they have no option using this concept of a nice separate iron stand plugging in the back of the head unit with C245 iron keeping the front panel neat and tidy?? Is there an option to make T3B station work with C245 handle? Would be awesome..
Hello, you mention the C210 style handle offers a wide variety of tips, but I can only find 3 tips for this style. Cannot even get a Chisel style tip. Anyone know?
Hi! thanks for you video, it Was a quicky and objetive explanation. Please help me with a recommendation.... which of the aixun t3a o t3b you think is the Best for mobile repair? To make reballing in phones. or which other you can recomend me under 200 dlls
Is it really 220V only? I bought the 110V version of the T3A, it only came with an ungrounded plug adapter. Unfortunately the power supply couldn't supply 200W continuously, at least not on 110V. The current sense resistors appear to be undersized, and exploded after soldering three brass standoffs to an AM3 CPU cooler. The DC output on the back is wired directly to the converter output (no diodes) so it still works powered from a bench supply. Are there any other indications besides the silkscreen that your T3B supply is exclusively 220V input?
the psu in the t3a is really 120w continuous where it can do max up to 200 not continuously. and yes the t3b do make sure you pick the proper 110 or 220
I always wondered, how cold junction measurement and compensation is implemented in these stations. There are thermocouple wires (dissimilar metals) coming from the welded joint. Then, copper leads through connecting wire. Then, the ribbon wires (probably copper) going to the front PCB. There are various dissimilar metals, and various voltages generated because of their junctions. Could you make a video explaining how all of this is done? Thank you.
Just bought one and out the box the handle doesn't respond to being docked and lower the temperature but does respond to the TIP or handle metal collar touching the extraction area.
Just when you thought it was safe to go back on RU-vid, SDG has another soldering station to review. :-) my worry is the Mains and Low voltage going to the same switch power switch. how have they kept the isolation gaps inside to the switch?
It seems to me that the front panel being vertical is quite an ergonomic disadvantage. In all videos presinting the T3A or T3B you see the presenter holding the unit in his hands or butting some support below the front. Even my 35 year old Weller station has a tilted front panel. Maybe someone owning the unit can comment?
Hi Steve, any plans to review the AIXUN T420D twin station? This seems to answer the questions around availability of handles and also why the holders have mouldings on the side.
Excellent video demo, thank you! I'm thinking about getting a T3B (160€, 96W) or a cheaper one (100€, 75W - a GVM T210-), in both cases with a C210 handle/tips. My soldering is mostly thru-hole and a bit of SMD. Would the T3B or the cheaper 75W GVM, be adequate for thru-hole? I like the precission but I see they are targeted to SMD soldering, so I'd like your opinion. Until now I only used simple (no "station") JBC 30W irons, but I need one for my workshop, finer tips, more accuracy...
I think the T210 is a little bit limiting for through-hole work. I would recommend the Aixun, only because I've used it a lot without issue - I don't know if the GVM is reliable or well built. Any reason you don't want one of the stations with the T245 handle?
@@sdgelectronics No reason really, I'm new to this kind of stations, so I guess a 245 handle would be fine too. You ask because there is a good candidate with T245 handle? Which one? Saving some cash would be very welcome right now.
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Every time I upgrade to these new solder stations, they come out with a newer version, I have the ts-80, ts-100, ts-100 knockoff....plus the quoeco station the..mss-12 ...and dozen hakko and Weller stations from many yrs ago......so, looks like I'll be upgrading again.
Please if you can help me!!! I have the soldering station, YIHUA-853AAA, and I have the following problem, the soldering iron when I adjust it to any temperature, the display shows me 85 degrees Celsius and the soldering iron that I measure with a thermometer, reaches 400 plus, at what point to focus to find the problem?Thanks a lot!!!
Is the stand not intended for hot swapping the tips like the t3a? If you store the tips sharp side down you wouldn't risk poking yourself. I thought that was the whole point of this type of stand...am I missing something? Great review as always.
Can the T3B drive a standard JBC T245 handle in addition to T210 and T115? The connectors look the same and I assume they keep the pinout the same between handles. If it is compatible does the firmware identify the T245 handle? Does it even fit in the holder? I am hoping to get this station for all 3 handles if possible and save some space on my bench.
I uncovered mine and it has a 12v output, C245 needs 24v, you can connect it but it will not reach the temperatures and you will be forcing the source. The T3B is only 96w, the C245 tips draw up to 160w, T3A is 200w output.
You said you will post a video with a test between the original JBC soldering iron tips and the "stock" aixun. I have searched every video since you made this one. Can't find it. Any suggestions? Are "original" JBC tips worth it?
at 12:45 it appears that the plastic insulating body of the power switch is cracked in two horizontally, or is that molding sprue? Also, would you say that ARM chip looks recycled?
Would you recommend the C210 handle or the C115 one for keyboard PCB soldering and general purpose small electronics ? I'm pretty sure i'll like the C115 one but I fear it will be too small
I have the T3A with C245 tips. Which good non genuine jbc tips can you buy - or is jcb the only upgrades you should buy? The std tips except the small shovel tip is good imo. Can't find any decent stubby chinese tips at all..
"You might need to add a bit more insulation if your paranoid?" Yes please. Sticky paper not a substitute for proper cable routing. Does this conform to any electrical standard?
For what it's worth, the "120V" version ships with an IEC cable with a EU plug and a US travel adapter (??). Sticker on the back says 90-240v, so apparently it they have a universal supply in at least the 120v version.
Is it possible to use C245 on the T3B? I think on going to a T3B and buy it with the C115 and C245 handle. But in your comparison of the shell they seem to have different plugs, haven't they? Best regards diego
I have over of those stands in the mail. Is there space in the back of the t245 stand to replicate the cable setup this one have? Depends on the connector really, but if I aim for din-style connectors like this have.
I am considering getting this T3B version over the A simply because of the Connector on the stand. Space is expensive real estate on my workbench. I am looking forward to a comparison between the delivered Tips and some genuine JBC ones. That might be some good "upgrade"- Potential Thank you for this very indepth review. Greetings from Germany o/
@@GabrielKozsar Mainly the A version uses the Larger Handpiece, and Has the Connector of the Iron in the Front of the Station. The B Version connects the iron to the stand, and the stand to the Station on the back. Also the B version uses the 210 or 115 Smaller Handpieces
Very love all of your video. Super informative for a newbie. Funny enough I saw your video on the T3A months ago and of memory ordered the T3B recently because I recalled you mentioned something about it. Watching this video now I just learned the it’s half the power and that the tips are so small. I thought I can just get the 245 handle and work it but now I see I can’t. Do you think the T2B with the 210 cartridges will cause me any issues on iPhone board repairs?
Do you know where I can find the pinout data for the Aixun T3A and T3B? I want to wire my T12 and old Hakko hand pieces to work with them. Btw, making a video on this topic would be very popular.
The T3A looks great! I'm going to grab one for my "on stream soldering" - have you seen anything that can do micro-tweezers? The JBC originals units for micro-tweezers are insanely expensive :(
I need to check out the tweezers, we have some JBC tweezers at work but the station isn't really any different so I imagine it should be possible to use them with one of these stations. I'll update once I find out.
@@sdgelectronics any news on using tweezers with this station? Edit: I just found your video on the tweezers, sorry. anyone interested, here's the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jsZxiXmGfq8.html
Nice video! You earned my sub! From my understanding of your T245 comparison, the T210 is the preferred model when all of your soldering stays on PCBs and you play with smaller components, 0402 let's say. Am I right and do we know how it compares to the KSGER T12 power-wise?
You will get better soldering performance with a T210 than the T12, simply because the JBC tips can get more power into the tip of the cartridge. T210 is better for smaller soldering jobs, but it does have a smaller range of cartridges to choose from.
I ordered T115 and T210 tips from aliexpress. They did not fit the T115 handle came with the station. The tip that came with the station does not have any identification on it so i cannot tell if its T115 to begin with. Its very close but not perfect. I have TS2115-105 tip that does not fit this handle. Its 0.1mm too wide and 0.2mm shorter and TS2210-002 thats way too big for this handle. Can you clarify to me why that is ?
I'm not impressed with this unit. There is several reasons, 1) the hand piece is not good quality, the one I received you can hear sparking within the hand piece so obviously the contacts are not making good contact. It actually randomly not recognize there is a tip installed if you slightly press the tip the wrong way. 2) It produces switching noises very noticeable if you also working with a scope, (at the moment not sure if its coupled from earth ground or through emf) but at idle there is a ~75khz 150mv spikes, and when its heating can go up to 300mv pk-pk which really ruins measurements. 3) The 110v version just comes with a really bad adaptor and not a north American cable, the adaptor litterly sags not fitting properly, so you actually have to go find a proper power cable. 4) the three tips I think one is probably somewhat useful.
How do you remove tips, with pliers ? I am looking for a station that has easy removable tips that i can swap on the fly. Some kind of latching mechanism or magnetic or something. Having to use external tools to pull out the tip is annoying.
Разобрался немного с настройками. Можно блокировать регулировку температуры если ручка в стойке как у JBC, то что тебя бесит. Так же можно выставить температуру ожидания, не ноль как выставлено а сколько хочешь и время для сна. Есть и калибровка на 100, 200, 300, 400 и 450. Замеряешь и выставляешь реальное значение. Но станция и так прекрасно работает, у меня разбежка на топоре была 10 градусов всего.
Does anyone know the ID-resistor value for the C115 handpiece? I already had the T3B with C210 hande, so i bought a C115 handle, but the station does not recognize it. the resisitor is 10K, but I am not sure that is correct
Quite like this station, especially the form factor. Wonder if it is worth measuring the power consumption when in sleep mode for all these stations........might be useful to know when leaving them switched on all day.........or is that just me being a tight ar$e Scotsman again!
is there any more affordable stations for ham radio work? I'm a disabled vet and just don't have the money this fine station would require to be built out. thanks for any tips.
Might be a silly question. Does the T115 or T210 both have the same connector meaning I can buy both irons and plug each one separately into the same T3B station?
Yes, it works, I have the original jbc with 210 and 245 handles, I bought a t3b with 115 handles, put the original 210, the station saw it on the display and wrote 210.
I'd be really interested to know your thoughts on the really small C115 tips for doing 0402 and even smaller parts. T12 chisels only goes down to a 0.8 mm, which works well enough for 0402, but even that feels pretty big on some parts.
C115 are absolutely awesome for real micro soldering under a microscope. I picked up one of these stations with the 115 handpiece and couldn't be happier
Sure thing, if your offer is serious I have been looking to get a decent station for my university rocketry team (I am leaving soon and am the only member with a good station) the FX 951 would be great.
