@@Podcastage This thread got me curious, so down the rabbit hole... - ultimate = last - penultimate = 2nd from last - antepenultimate = 3rd from last - preantepenultimate = 4th from last - propreantepenultimate = 5th from last There are some proposals for 6th+ but apparently no consensus. 🎤🐇🕳
Very interesting. I can see why you'd prefer this over the V7. I just think the V7 offers something a bit more complete and compelling to my ears. I like this for the price, but think I'd reach for the v7 if I had to choose between the two. Great to know that they've put out a mic that competes with their 2x the price offering though.
I preferred it to the behringer as well. The XM8500 was a bit sharper sounding in the treble, but it's also 1/2 the price, so it's still go that going for it.
Given it’s real world use case is “number 42 to the snack bar” and it’s one of the only competitors to the sennheisers we currently supply, I’d say job done.
For those applications where people are seeking extremely budget mics, I think it's a fantastic offering because I prefer it to the other $50 mics and it has that on off switch. Thanks for sharing that.
HEY BANDREW I just wanted to give you a huge congrats on all the weight you've been losing my dude. I've lost about 70 pounds myself and i know how hard that shit can be. U look great :)
oof that fall was a good one! This mic actually sounds pretty good on your voice. SE Electronics makes great sounding mics. From the Sev7 to the SE8 and this.
I honestly continue to be impressed with that XM8500, what an amazing value (I actually bought it after your review long time ago). And also that handling rejection on bigger brother V7 is impressively good.
What! Who dared to meddle with the beloved Neumann greeting?? I'll fight 'em! Neumann sabotage aside, lovely video as always. Thanks for giving my brain the good juice each week. One of these days I'll finally get myself a nice entry level setup and blow my friends away the next time we do a Discord hang lol. I'll tell em Bandrew sends his regards. 😎
Thanks so much L3xi. I wish you the best of luck when you do get that entry level set up so you can have audio so good that all your friends feel ashamed of their sub par audio in your voice calls. Ha. Thanks again.
Sounds well but I am put off by this black/ red diabolical combination of colors. Great for vampires who like to sing though! You just need a long cap and off you go...
You got me wheezing at the beginning, if you do see this I really need your opinion, under $100, should I do a diy Shure sm7b with one of these hand helds, should I buy the blue yeti X for $70, or should I buy fifine k688 for about $70, or save a bit for the maono PD400x for like $120-$140 (IMO sounds like the closest budget Audio Technica BP40 that’s what I’m trying to go for however I don’t have that money so i know it’s not possible but with XLR and hand held and modern technology you can get close, as well streaming and video compression most won’t notice a difference.
Looking buff, throwing out the gold standard reviews. Impossible to watch without learning something. sE did a good job here whether it's a personal favorite or not, undeniable quality products. I would take an XM8500 instead but at other price points I think sE is top dog.
PODCASTAGE: that was an interesting fall. I was going oh my gosh as your equipment was bouncing attached to the XLR doobly-doo. ... ! (you know, hoping it wouldnt like, fall over or something)
Whatever good stage mikes could be, if you cannot hear other than rumble on a concert. This SE makes a nice coloration to your voice, which definitely missing from original and Behringer. Difference is so small (on Samsung cellphone), but price diffence is hearable. SE over Mackie and Behringer. Would be interested in Dynamic USB mic.
Any plans to review the JZ BT 202? Seems to have quite different sound signature compared to the SDCs you have reviewed and would like to hear your opinion on it.
I have sE V7 mics coming out my ears. Saw your post for the V2, and was like "OMG, they made it even better?!" Thankfully they did not, and I don't have to replace all of my V7 mics. Lol.
I suppose it could work for that as long as you like the sound of the mic. Keep in mind that no mic is going to eliminate all background noise or reflections, so don't expect this mic to make you sound like you're in a fully treated room.
To my untrained ear that sounds an awful lot like the smooth sm7b.... To me it just kind of has that warmed rounded off kind of smooth sound just like the shure sm7b..... But again my ears are untrained and that's why we leave these incredibly detailed, ridiculously helpful reviews to the pro like yourself
I read the description after noticing; shouldn't be surprised you caught that. It seemed you were trying to move it gingerly during the off-axis test but holy frijoles that handling noise was BAD. Great sound for $50 though, actually sorta tempted to get one to complement the V7! It's actually intriguing how they don't have frequency response from when it's 2in off like they do with the V7 so it's easier to compare, but it sounds... not ideal from right on top.
Graphs are nearly impossible to compare from mic to mic because there's no standard which is kind of a pain. 1m away is fine and all, but I can't think of many people who use mics a meter away...certainly not on stage or in content creation. Maybe for orchestral recordings or drum overheads, and definitely for room mics .
Best review I've seen, very thorough and entertaining. The good music was the cherry on top. I also really liked that demo song - when you dropping the full version?😄
@@Podcastage You're welcome and thank you for the helpful reviews. Understandable, but just know if you ever do decide to make one a full song you got a fan right here.😁 Just love the punk-pop style. haha
Pls make a tier list or rankings of SDC microphones for instruments. I feel like no one is doing it and you have the most comprehensive comparisons. Always loved your vids and i think it would be nice to have a visual ranking when you compare mics with one another in your reviews :) cheers and keep up!
Thank you very much for your suggestion. I have a number more SDC mics that I need to review before I'd feel comfortable ranking them. That's a great idea though.
Dignity, always dignity Bandrew, and as Woody told Buzz ‘That’s just falling with style’. Great, entertaining review again dear fellow, for the price it’s a very usable mic but I agree it might be better to get (if you can afford it) the V7. Take care and all the best for a sunny West of England.
Thank you so much Mike for the input and the kind words. Falling with style all the way. And take care from overcast parts unknown in the United States.
Great review as always man. I can't decide if I like the V2, V7 or SM58 the most, but they all sound good. I just received a Beta 58A for free which I'm excited to start using for my gaming channel, but I'm going to customize it by painting it white first. Keep up the good work, I love your content and you humor.
Well a free mic is hard to beat. Sounds like you've got the best mic of them all for now. Hope it works out well for you. Be careful when painting it, and I'd recommend against painting the grill. That may cause a vent to get covered and change the sound.
Lol I have same mic and may try the paint job. Got it used but damn it gives a nice warmth and rejects noise better than any mic. Sounds surprisingly great on my acoustic guitars.
I have only one thing to say, I love sE and your videos of course 😉. The fact that they can make such an inexpensive microphone with such high sound and material quality, is just great.
Much like you I also continue to be absolutely impressed by sE i had a conversation with a friend of mine at Mammoth Music here in Anchorage Alaska and he agrees that they have been Crushing the competition the last two years or so. Great Mics that not only look and are built great and are generally very affordable but man they sound great. Also on a second note as a music and Audio equipment nerd I very much appreciate all that you do, thankful that you won't stop. Is there a way to support what you do besides youtube joining (i don't relly trust sending money you youtube subscription things)?
Yep, it sounds like the V3. Thought it would. Maybe you should get a kickstand for your chair, tho, eh? It might help with the throwing of the mic box next time!
That really means a lot to me Ryan, I truly appreciate that. I'm just trying to make videos so they're there when people are researching mics and hopefully they can make a more informed purchasing decision. The real hero is you for watching even when you'r not researching. You keep the channel alive. Thank you.
Hello! Thanks to the amazing videos, I've been getting a lot of help in choosing a microphone! If you had to choose between XM8500 and Se V2, which one would you choose? Please judge based solely on sound! Um... I'm not sure.
Either would be fine. The Xm8500 is brighter and a bit muddier and the V2 is smoother. Depends which you like. I'd probably go sE, but that's personal taste.
...but I like to "Hello Neumann," along with you. It was just me being the dork today. It felt lonely and bad. I rather liked the SEV2S mic compared with the 8500(which I own) but I always like the SM58 so I may need to set my pennies aside for one.
Ouch. Great lunge into the box void. Second ouch. It's not often I hear the nuances you're talking about. The handling on this was at fifine k688 levels. And here's it's on a hand style mic! I guess physical cartridge isolation costs a big chunk of the extra $50. In a way it vindicates the poor handling of some of the rising budget brands as clearly it is hard to do all of cartridge+shell+isolation+profit well in $50. 3rd ouch: (unless you meant only your Sunday podcasts were de-monetising) YT threw two ads at me at the start. 🧙🖖
This channel has too much overhead to shut off ads and monetization. If I didn't have any of that, I would have had to shut down in year 1 because I would have just drove myself into crippling debt to buy everything to review. I thought I stated I was only shutting off advertisements on the podcast channel, not every channel I run. Sorry if that was confusing.
Countless performers need a switched dynamic, in fact, a number of them. Every tour I’ve been on in the last 15 years has at least 6 on stage for performer talkback to engineers. Making them in full-hiding black was wise. sE should sell them in 6-packs - $249 out the door, hold the stickers! In all honesty it doesn’t sound great. Does that matter?
For talk back mics the sound wouldn't really matter at all. I"m sure at this price they'll fly off the shelves for sure. As always thank you so much for sharing your insight.
Hey bandrew. During the comparison for value segments of your videos, How do you feel about adding the $current market price for a comparable or competitor microphone displayed in text in the lower 3rd, in addition to the interface settings? I know you also speak the price of the microphones during this comparison, but maybe some folks would be interested in a quick visual reference also? Thoughts?
Thanks for the suggestion. I don't really want to add even more data to the lower third because they're already too dense. Adding more numbers would just make it more cluttered. I state the price of the mics and place them in order of price lowest to highest already so I think that should probably be more than sufficient for most people.
I don't currently have a V96 and it's not within my budget at this time, but thank you very much for the recommendation. I have been impressed by Beyerdynamic and hope to try it out sometime.
I do have a suggestion: Can you do a test of handling noise from different microphones? Does not matter if it's dynamic or condenser. And know what? I kind of like the sound of handling noise in both V2 and V7 microphones.
I'll eventually try to find which one does the best with handling noise. I just need to find a way to do a proper repeatable test that eliminates as many variables as possible.
It is getting pretty crazy how good cheap mics are now. I definitely love sE persoanlly, I have a matched pair of sE8s and a matched pair of RN17s (which are ridiculously heavy for SDCs.)
Was it raining inside the studio on your interview with Josh Liston? That's what your clickbait thumbnail would suggest with your hood on. Don't get your hoodstrings all riled up. It's just fun messing with ya.
If you bang on your desk a lot just try to mount it to a different desk or get a floor stand so it's not acoustically coupled to the surface you keep hitting and dropping your mouse on.
Great review 👍!At $50 it sounds really nice. Mic stand will be a must on this mic. It sounded more clear with pop filter. V7 at $100 is a great value and investment. Epic guitar playing, i replayed guitar section multiple times 👏👏👏! Chair fall 🙀……
It's all about selecting the mic that is right for your application. Seems like you're honing in on what's important for you .Thanks for sharing Lawrence, it's great to hear.
I would ask you a question in return. Why do you want to change from the AT2020? What's the issue you're trying to resolve. Does the sE V2 resolve those issues? If so, then it may make sense. But if you're looking to upgrade or make a lateral shift just for the sake of making a lateral shift/upgrade, I'd advocate against that.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying if you like the sound of it, and the handling noise won't be an issue, then consider it because it compares pretty favorable to the other $50 mics in my opinion. Haha. Did I hedge that recommendation enough?
In the treated room it's the 18i20 2nd gen, in the untreated space it's the 2i2 3rd gen. The preamps are very very similar, so it should be mostly negligible in terms of the impact.
Hi everyone, thanks for that great test. Once again I believe it would be perfect if you could add a female voice to your test. 3 points: 1. sE rocks 😄 whatever the mic you buy from this brand, you won't be disappointed. 2. sE seems to start a strategy of making cheaper version of some of their best products: After releasing the DMC 3 & 6 from the dynacaster (who becomes DMC 7) they do the same with the V2 from the V7. What is noticeable is that it is done without downgrading the sound quality. 3. This mic compete (with the same strategy) with the shure PGA 48 lc which is the little brother of the sm48 and both at the same price range (you also made a review of this mic). I was planning to buy a V7, the handling noise is not a problem to me, I admit the only thing who makes me still choose the v7 is the beauty of this mic, especially the limited edition series.
I would like to add female vocal tests to my reviews, I unfortunately don't have any friends in my town to record with and I don't have the budget to hire voice actors for their time. One day I hope to be able to get someone to help with that though. Thanks for the input.
