The verse, rightly translated should say, "For a child is born for us; a son is given to us, and government will be on his shoulder, and his name will be call wonderful counsellor, a mighty ruler, founder of the eon, prince of peace;" KtK
I hope that there could be discussions between Unitarian Christian alliance with Tovia Singer as he tends to interpret the Old testament to denounce Christianity.
"his name Shall be" is an absolute tense. If you think present day jews care anything about Christians learning Hebrew, or care about Christians at all for that matter, you are gravely deceived.
Gashintoutan: i think many people see Jewish as " antimessiah" not so? The Jewish peopke just do not except Jesus as the Messiah and feel the true messiah is yet to happen. As a Christain myself, when considering the fractured nature of Judiasm from 300bc to jesus time , then the addutional distortion of the REAL CHRIST wirh trinuty, helkfire, immortal soul. And of course the 1700 years if ,," JEW HATE" practuces by the Church, DONT YOU UNDERSTAND JUYST A LITTLE WHY THEY REJECT CHRUSTIANITY, ?,?
so is there any virgin/bethulah in Isaiah prophecy (dual) ??? not at all ! so please get your magical so called tammuz virgin birth of Jesus behind !an "Almah/Young noble maiden unmarried" (betrothed in the case of Maryam), never was and will never be a "Bethulah/virgin", as the prophetress in Isaih was pregnant !
Romyim 1: 1-4 : "Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead." You see Tony, there are 2 fathers here, David and God, The FLESH/BODY from David, and The Spirit so The Holy Spirit of The Father, The fathering/overshadowing God of Yeshua). + THE 2 AGENCIES AND REGENCIES OF THE BELIEVERS IN THE WORD OF LIFE AND RECONCILIATION
