I actually knew guys who used to be drug dealers and thieves who had a lot of remorse for the things they did. The Tate's are worse than some of those guys, and some of them commited real violence. They weren't limited to kick boxing rings.
It's true. But only a certain type of person can sell drugs. It's probably a lot harder than what the tates did. People talk like it's easy, but it's probably the highest stake way you could make money. 😂
@@pixelfish_ Both the Tates are morally bankrupt and this video of "Tristan" pretending he didn't know who Strickland was, was beyond embarrassing. I take it your a fan ? Another easily led young little sycophantic fool who can't see further than the end off his nose.
@@mapexplimmer2 in a way it is because there are 2 groups of people with a different fixation. Healthy and Addicted the addicted will lose all of their money and the healthy will be.. well.. Healthy with it. the problem with Tate's argument is they said they volunteer in taking peoples money where as Sean on the other hand is not volunteering in it. He's just supplying the content, if anything it's the gambling companies that are volunteering even with their "Gamble Responsibly" stickers. if it was the gambling industry that called Tate a bad man then his argument might make a bit sense. but this argument is like a battle of the shade of grey. It's fucking pointless on both sides depending where it's morphed.
I used to like both of these fighters.. now - I'm tired of it. I can't watch a fight without drama on the screen or the comments. Combat sports/ RU-vid crossover is worst crossover.
@@SudoUser-qo4ngdrama between fighters always happens for promotional purpose but this is actually real and true about them Tate scams all his fans with no remorse which is why he has a casino
@@Sauczi i mean no because at the end of the day sean is not in control of people who throw their money away gambling on his fights however when you run a camgirl service you have the control to stop someone from using that service even if it is only temporarily the only difference is that with the gambling either win or lose it doesnt affect sean however with the tates if they can get somebody hooked they profit
@@settmain3724 That makes no sense? Did you even watch the video? If you close a liquor store is an alcoholic going to stop drinking? or just go buy it nextdoor? Please use critical thinking not emotion
@@Sauczi that argument also does not make any sense because the alcoholic drinks the type and brand he wants and gets addicted, on the other hand tate just impose like the cam girls and manipulate the men, so its already fraud here imposing like the girls, its like you order or purchase a expensive liquor and its just cheap shit inside the bottle of the expensive one , they give hope for these men and take all their money, they say we can meet up and take their money as well, which is also a scam, cause they will never meet up
Nah he’d 100% would rip thru them. The Tate brothers are good fighters don’t get me wrong. But they don’t have any major kickboxing belts under their name. Against a UFC champ like Sean they stand no chance. Especially since he won against Adyseana who had 75-5 record in kickboxing
Lol the Gayte brothers have literally said they need protection from guys who are crazy and always looking for problems (literally Strickland). Imagine what Sean would do to them with his skills 😂
@@dawnkeener9836 that has absolutely nothing to do with anything anyone here has said It isn't about getting sued it's about the physical danger of a crazy guy who has nothing to lose
Poor Tristan, he mixed up horse race betting with mma/ufc betting. Yes, people have lost their savings to horse racing but ufc is a sport similar to the nfl...they play to fighters similarly to the nfl plays their players.
Also, Tate owns 15 casinos, according to his own claims, so they are even worse even by the standard they set around gambling. They ACTIVELY do the stuff that is PASSIVELY part of Sean's career's world. I dont think Sean makes any money from it unless he bets on or against himself
Isnt it funny how much shit logan paul got for people in his company scamming but the tate brothers who scammed by them self get no shit. Sometimes im wondering if people online even have an own opinion or if they just follow the opinions that are trend
Sean Strickland (Who never claimed to be a role model): “Tate brothers shouldn’t be seen as role models because they run businesses that exploit addicts” Tate’s Response: You’re a hypocrite because someone bets on your fights (which Sean Strickland does not directly profit from). What did he mean by this?
@@AltezzaGang15 Bet David lmao, he's the biggest scammers of all, through real estate. Jordan Peterson charges copious amounts of money for a single lecture
The Tate brothers are so sassy, it’s a joke really. Talking about how men are not masculine when they are sassy as they come. Just look at the mannerisms and fast talking.
A buddy of mine keeps trying to push these Tate guys on me and I dont get it. They say cliché bullshit with big words and people think that its profound.
Imagine saying gambling addicts that stumble across mma fight bets which very very indirectly might benefit the fighter is the same as intentionally scamming a man by pretending to be a woman. Never mind the fact that Strickland doesn't make a career out of trying to prevent gamblers from blowing all their money while the tates claim show men how to not get taken advantage of by women and how to man up and not be a simp. It's such a round about comparison that it's hard to even see what point Tristan tate is even trying to make.
UGH... I can't stand the Tate brothers. Their manner of speaking is cringeworthy, and Tristan's attempt to look cool with that long cigar draw fell flat. He shows no remorse for his actions and pretends not to know who Sean Strickland is, along with making light of the scamming and abuse he perpetrated. This is classic narcissistic sociopathic behavior-never admitting fault and showing no care for others. Both Tristan and Andrew seem to lack integrity and a moral compass. Their behavior suggests they might have enjoyed interacting with their male victims for more reasons than one.
Strickland makes tate, macgregor, MGK so mad because he exposes that for all the money these guys have, if you don't have your integrity and reputation, you aren't a success and you can still be pretty miserable with yourself
as someone who comes from all kinds of adiction problems, im with tate here. You have to be a special level of low as a man to not care about your adiction problems, mindlesly throwing money away for basicaly nothing if not ruining your self in the proces. It takes balls to admit it to your self that you have problems especialy to others too, i get that, but im with tate bcs i realised how weak and controled and disgusting i was when i had adiction issues and it makes me see people with adiction issues like they deserve it, bcs they wont give it up for their healht/well being.
Why would anyone feel bad for them, I've watched born since middle school, never ever ever spent a dime and admittedly I still watch but that should tell you what kinda ppl pay for bs
Purposefully Taking advantage over desperate people is cruel for one. Then he further dehumanizes them as just addicts. In his cam business, he pretends to be these models which is a scam since that not what the people paid for. Also he tells people using the service, that he’ll meet up with them while impersonating the model. He never does. He’s fueling their desperation and plays with their emotions it’s a scam and it’s disgusting of them.
Him and his bother literally scammed men with their cam girl business, even tho their all for helping lonely single men while taking advantage of those same lonely men?
What does someone betting on my fights have to do with me??? That was the worst argument ever? Scamming people out of their money and people betting on fighters are no where near the same thing. I can’t force people to bet on me. People will choose who they want to choose
I think the bias in this comment section is Ridiculous. The comparison Tristan is making is between folks who have no self control in either space. That is something neither party can control if I were running a business ex: a soda shop... if I see the same dude come in everyday to buy a 6 pack of soda there's nothing to say that's his money and his choice to spend it on what he deems to be valuable. Unfortunately there are people who are addicted to the wrong things. That's not Tristan or Andrew's fault. It's the fault of the weak minded individual with no restraint. Now is what they did right... no of course. However if someone who did not know them personally made negative claims on thier character without paying attention to what is said in interviews and such then of course one side would be quite upset
Being a fighter In a fight where the public wage bets that either hit or miss giving them a real chance to win, waging bets with companies that have nothing to do with a fighters direct income is completely different from giving someone false hope with a girl that they believe they are connecting with collecting money one click at a time because they have terrible impulse control
Hitler’s image wasn’t tainted by revolutionist propaganda, but it sure didn’t change the fact that he was a terrible person. Not saying the Tates are identical to a mass murderer, but they are just as equal into manipulating the masses for their own personal gain.
I'm not a fan of Andrew or Tristan but I don't see why people are all of a sudden pretending to have sympathy for rich incels. I don't see why Tristan or Andrew wouldn't just be like "Yeah I scammed those losers, f them". That'd be a lot more honest and respectable (and less stupid than the coping Tristan did). Realistically those people who they "scammed" are losers, and they are capable of making their money back otherwise they wouldn't have the ability to keep coming back to the same web cam girls.
From the very beginning I've not understood the Tates popularity. They literally make fun of the kids they rip off and everything is someone else's fault when they get in trouble.
it's pretty clear that Tristan was flustered and came up with a bad reaction, or response if you can call it that. It's interesting to see how Tristan has grown to an extention of he's brother, but you can see he's definitely more flawed at the game, Andrew was more calculating, and better with situations like this.
6:03 Im not sure why everyone in the comments is upset must be because theyre a victim. Someone who cannot control their impulses…you wouldnt even had a chance to be able to speak with some random girl on the internet who happens to be a guy trying to profit off of you if you never indulged in these impulses. This is why tristan says this is 100% YOUR fault anyone who disagrees is weak even sean strickland you can be strong physically but weak mentally theyre target was the mentally weak and it got them paid learn how to control your impulses and youll never end up in that position.
Crazy how like his excuse in the beginning is that when people on their own terms bet money and lose it it’s the same as when they are manipulated into spending that cash
Tristan and Andrew were pretending to be women and messaging other men for money is disgusting behaviour. They have done a lot of good and put themselves out there since though. Most people have done something when they was younger they wouldn't do again
I think the comment section is on Seans meat. Just because Tristan fucked up in his response, doing his alter ego bs, doesn't mean Sean is right. If you really think about it, you would not blame the Tates for their business
Yeah, this was a really bad look for Tristian. He made zero sense. He’s completely avoided the fact that Sean said their POS because they themselves have personally scammed people. I didn’t realize it was possible to lose more respect for him
They have no clue what it takes to have a successful marriage. They can think they do they can say they do and they can try and convince young men that they do but in reality they don’t know a damn thing. Coming from a 36 year old woman with four kids and a husband, they don’t know shit about compromise or understanding or respect all the things that a marriage takes.
Tristan had a point and so did Sean. Tristan and Andrew decided to make money off of the people addicted to spending money. Sean doesn't mess with it directly. Both are technically right in some ways, but Tristan and Andrew were fine with taking money for it directly.
You missed the biggest gap of logic. A pro fighter promotes himself as a fighter, then gets into the ring and fights. He says he's a fighter and then he fights until the best man wins. Meanwhile Tristan pretends to be a barely legal camgirl.
They both got points and they both are amazing at what they do. Talking shit to Tristan or Sean just indicates that y’all have nothing much to do with your lives and like to look down at others who’ve made it so you can have a feeling of superiority for a second before returning to your shitty lives. If you have no haters, you’ve done something wrong.
Hilarious how people will sit and argue for each man involved on this topic but are probably still sitting at home eating shit food, have no money saved, and are struggling every single day of their lives. My point? Stop worrying about or try justifying other grown men’s actions and worry about yourself and your family first. All of this other shit basically doesn’t matter.
Looking back on this is funny as hell. The champion of an unknown semi-proffesional c-tier europian kicknoxing organization calling a ufc champion "some fighter" is too funny.
They have helped far more people than Strickland has. If you're already on that type of site, it doesn't matter if the tates brother are there or not, you losing your money anyway. But they should own that the work isn't something to be proud of. Perhaps they have. Also "Sean Strickland made Tristan Tate and Andrew Tate meltdown live on Air.", so now lying is cool? Wouldn't surprise me if this guy purposely skipped parts of the response so it would look worse for the tate.
Nah that's a false equivalent, the Tate bros were ACTIVELY scamming dudes, the fight business and te betting system is two DIFFERENT stuff. That argument is bullsh*t
Scamming someone is taking money without giving them anything in return , they were providing a service and in exchange for said service they wanted to get paid. Alson Sean is not a good person he has said on many occasions that he wants to hurt people and that he likes doing it . And no that's not just talking about fights that's in general.
Tate calling strickland a bad person because he is involved in a industry that causes people to lose money via gambling; is like a murderer calling a mechanic a bad person because they are part of a industry that allows for people to die in car crashes 😂.
In my opinion, the commenter is a bit naive. He may not have understood what Tate meant when she said that sponsors would abandon a hypocritical gambling denier. Did the commenter understand that UFC also abandoned Francis Ngannou? It's always about money, one way or another. Sean might be better fighter, but his not that bright as Tate.
Tristan pretending he didn't get turned out day 1 prison and him and his brother didn't have to go on protection wing with other sex offenders is hilarious
Nothing wrong with this comparison. In a handful of industries, excessive addicitions exist. Saying that boxing or sports has nothing to do with gambling or betting is irrelevant Tate was in the entertainment business. Sean is in the sports entertainment business Its like blaming the Gun manufacturers for the person pulling the trigger on an innocent person The degens and addicts that spent money on the webcam business has nothing to do with the Tates That's their problem that they need to deal with Sean tried too hard to put himself on a moral high ground but in reality addicts are also eaten up in sports betting Its a perfectly reasonable and valid argument