2 sides of the trauma response. Even when seans crying theo still trying his best to make him laugh cuz he aknowledges his pain. When it isn't anger its jst pure sadness.
sean uses violence to deal with his trauma. but wants to fight everything thats dangerous to deal with it. he even sparred with ngannou bec he sees his abusive father in scary people
Violence?, No violence is doing dumb ignorant shit for no reason he found a pretty solid outlet for that said “violence” and now just like Theo is helping alot of men old, young, middle aged etc.
@@Rico_71same here!!! The one thing I felt that Sean said was the everyone goes through trauma, biggest thing ppl need to remember is everyone’s trauma is different
Strongly disagree. Him waiting for Sean to stop crying to drop a pee joke was cringe. Also, had he done his homework he should have confronted Sean with his stepping over his own lines with his comments towards Ian machados wife. He could have saved himself from the backlash he got now.
Sean reminds me of my big brother Tommy. So much trauma. So much anger. Pain. So much pain. Sean has fighting as an outlet. His trauma makes him tough & gritty. Again, my big brother was the same. He always fought. Even if he wasn’t the toughest & got knocked down, no one could keep him down. He just kept getting back up. Always. Until he was sick of fighting. At the age of 36 he took his own life. I pray his soul is at peace. I hope Sean never stops fighting. I hope he finds peace in this life as well.
Sean came in hot, taking shots at Theo, but in the end Theo showed what empathy looks like when he said “we don’t have to talk I can just sit here with you"
If he thinks the Asian race was soo weak so did his ancestors win the Korean war or Vietnam war? Or did his ancestors get checked in the battlefield by an Asian? Ghenghis Khan didnt conquer his ancestors?
"Don't self isolate" thank you Sean for this advice. Had a terrible upbringing, scars on my body and face from it. The usual. You are so right dude, self isolating is a long road to nowhere. I need to face some fears.
For real! Dont do it! Isolations fucked me up more than anything else. Especially when I had to Think about everything that I went though. Be around good people
In this position now. Self isolated for 2 years and it caused some damage to my psyche forsure. Feels like it killed a little part of me but I like to think it’s just sleepin. Gotta wake that mf up!
Two Men navigating the complex world of humanity with its ups and downs through a conversation. Sometimes its off the track but that doesn't mean there isnt a destination worth getting to. Sometimes the best place to be is a place that didn't have a road to get to. Loved this very much. Thank you.
Big time the way he clenches his fists when hes crying he just wants to hurt something becuz the hurt inside him is so bad. As a man i think we can all relate to this at some point.
You can tell he didn’t wanna let the world see his tears. It’s ok to cry, Sean. Your old man was terrible to you. You didn’t do anything wrong and you didn’t deserve it.
Idk why he doesn’t like Goggins In fact Goggins went through worse but Sean dislikes others who are also mentally strong (He is mentally strong I just worded it wrong)
It’s NEVER okay to cry publicly. Cry privately. Never let anyone see you cry, especially not a woman. They’ll see you as less of a man and start walking over you until they dump you. Happens all the time.
When theo said "we don't have to talk I can just sit here with you for a while" is why I love theo this man is a one of a kind soul he put Sean's emotions in front of his podcast and than offered not to air it.
Thats real understanding from theo who’s probably had the same breakdowns and maybe he did or maybe he didnt have somebody say that to him but he understands.
Maybe but no weed for Sean or drugs. I know Sean is very stubborn against 'Drugs' but he might do well with a sitter like Theo and a healthy dose of psilocybin
Wow this interview really shows Sean in a different light. Seems like he’s made a lot of progress moving through some tough situations. Seeing him talk about how much he cared for and protected his mother was really touching. Blessings from here on out!❤
I relate too much to how his brain works so I crack up at Theo probably more than I do any other human on this planet 😂 “How many words can you type per minute?” Very valid question for some reason hahaha
@@SuperSalad7 "By who?!" "I don't fuckin' know, dude!" Like he's just making shit up, yet you're seeing photo evidence being popped up on the screen to backup every claim 🤣🤣
Telling Sean "oh man I can just sit here with you" as Sean started crying,no bro,that was not empathy whatsoever,that was Theo trying to keep conversation funny,he just wanted to deliver his "I used to pee around my bed" joke,watch the clip again you'll see what i mean,i was extremely disappointed
@@JulianPiliertheo started talking about his story of fear as a child. It wasnt a joke. He peed around his bed to protect himself as a kid. It sounded like a joke, but he finished the story after he gave Sean time and repeated "I'm sorry" to him. This was wholesome and wonderful to see. I had to rewatch it right when i heard it to see if he was making a joke as well. He wasnt. Then he told the story. ❤
Beautiful moment bro. And good on you for having the presence of mind to say “we don’t have to talk about it. I can just sit here with you.” That shit broke my heart. Love you for that.
I didn’t listen to this episode till last night on my drive home from PA and I was driving with just my son in his car seat in the back and I’m hearing all of this and tearing up because I have my own battles with depression and I’ve been sober for over 3 years now but I’m dealing with all my emotions head on so I definitely related to what Sean was going through. My trauma was a little different. My dad just wasn’t around at all and It was just me and my mom for so long. I’ve gained a lot of respect for Sean and Theo handled this interview like a champ. Hats off to the both of these guys. You never know what someone is going through so just be kind and a good person to everyone you come across.
First time I was watching out for Theos podcast. I listen to a decent amount of them. I was definitely waiting for this one though. Wonder if he released it early because of the leaked audio.
I’ve endured a lot of trauma as a child, and as a 20 year old adult I’m barely starting to realize that it’s trauma. Before I would just ignore it when it popped in my head and when Sean started crying man I cried too bc I have a very similar story in life. Now that my mom is gone it makes me hate myself bc I couldn’t protect her every second she felt pain. Thank you for allowing me to feel safe and cry with you two.
So proud of this interview and proud of Theo being himself. Trauma is so hard to deal with. Him offering to just to sit there with Sean made me cry for all people who have suffered as a child.
The Jesse ventura episode bothering theo, bothered me. Let guests say what they need to, and I think he learned since then. Theo is always great and I think he knows he's loved now even if he doesn't speak much. He's getting good at this.
I never realized what a beautiful human being Theo was until this episode. He could see what was coming, you could see it in his face, trying to take the attention off of Sean with a story for Sean's sake, professionally fighting back his own emotions. When it was impossible to avoid he was willing to just sit there with him, like a real friend would do. He didn't run from it, change the topic. Wow, good guy. ... Good guy. Thank you Theo.
Yeah man I noticed that too , also when theo made a joke about disney channel not being "homeschooled" , he immediately saw that Sean didn't react positively to it and apologized , he's very empathetic.
So much love for both of these men. I’m so glad Sean felt comfortable being vulnerable, we need more men who aren’t afraid to share their journey through the darkness so many people live in. Theo gave Sean a gift that I’m not sure many people will realize; while Sean is walking us through these traumatic memories and reliving those emotions, Theo is making Sean laugh. That is truly healing those moments for Sean. Maybe not in its entirety, but progress in the right direction.
WOW!! I did not think I was goin to end up crying when i turned on this podcast this morning! I have ALOT of respect for you Sean. Just to be so vulnerable talkin about the domestic violence you had to deal with as a small kid and the courage you showed is so amazing. I just RAN from a VERY abusive marriage with NOTHING. I had to leave everything behind. To wake up free with peace of mind without the stress of knowing the next battle is lurking around and you're just waiting for the other shoe to drop is priceless. Anyways just wanted to let you know how impressed I was with your interview since i didn't even know who you were and that I'm definitely now a fan and can't wait to sit and watch some of your fights!!❤ And it goes without saying that I'm already a HUGE fan of yours THEO!!❤❤❤
“We don’t have to talk about it I can just sit here with you for a minute.” Theo is showing the truest form of kindness and humility in this moment. Sometimes we don’t need someone to say anything, we just want them to sit with us and know that somebody is there. This has been my favorite podcast with a guest to date by far. The laughter, the tears, it’s all in the mix here. Thank you Theo for showing Sean genuine human empathy
Theo casually comforting Sean, “it’s ok man, a lot of that stuff is sad”. That is one of the best responses to a situation like this. He validated his feelings, so Sean felt like it wasn’t embarrassing to cry and then gave him his moment to process them once he realized he needed it. Fuck man that made me cry.
This is the greatest podcast ive ever seen. I had respect for Sean before this because he lives life his way unapologetically. But seeing him vulnerable, man, i understand you bro.
@@mrmxyzptlk8906ehh. They compete for me between first and second. I was 30 min into hinchcliffe on jre and clicked to this when I seen that notification
Theo is a national treasure. When Sean started breaking down, Theo tried to make him laugh then quickly read the room and was able to just sit with Sean instead of trying to make him feel better. It just shows how much work Theo has done on himself and there need to be more people that can just sit with people through their darkness. Gang gang baby! Sending everyone love ❤
I used to be the guy everyone went to when they had a bad trip back in my party days. I dunno why but I enjoy listening to people and what they’re going through.
This was an intense and very captivating interview. I listen to a lot of podcasts and they get boring with the same routine but this was raw and intriguing. I wish this went on for a few hours
“We don’t have to talk, I can just sit here for a minute.” We all need a Theo Von in our lives man. This random internet stranger loves ya if you’re reading this. Stay strong everyone.
I think it shows how a lot of men process or deal with trauma in their childhood. It’s like it sucks it happened but you also can’t afford to let it distract us from the present.
Man this was so emotional and raw. Tears came down Theo’s eyes not even 15 seconds after Sean started. Im not familiar with Sean or follow UFC, but this was just straight up raw and i wanted to just give bro a big hug
Theo, your ability to be compassionate for another fellow human being is amazing. Thank you Mr Strickland for allowing us to understand your trauma and the impact to your life. Thank you both!!
you have c-ptsd just like sean. my clients have it. if you want to feel better look that stuff up. and really crappy childhood fairy here on youtube has a great program and even her daily practice is free. good luck sir
Sean reminds me of a personality I ran across pretty often in the Marine infantry. Good dudes with rough pasts and no filters that you want on your side.
I was already a fan of Sean but this episode made me respect and understand him so much more. The fact that he was willing and able to get vulnerable and talk about his past and have the courage to post it is inspiring. It’s heartbreaking and encouraging at the same time. This level of public accountability and transparency is what we need in today’s society. You will not see this amongst any politician or public figure. I admire the sheer level of honesty and courage it takes to present this side of yourself in the public eye. This is growth.This is change. This is what society needs. Thanks Sean🙏
It’s one thing to break down into tears as a “tough guy”, but it’s a whole other level of respect when Theo offers to cut that part out and Sean says nope, leave it in, let the world see.
The world doesn't deserve Theo, he is such an amazing genuine soul, we are so very lucky to have him. I appreciate him giving anyone and everyone a platform to tell their story and he has absolutely no judgement. For him to say we don't need to talk I can just sit here with you says so much about his soul. Amazing, I am so fortunate to have found Theo.
Sharing and processing emotions is a sign of strength, and Sean definitely has it. Such a powerful conversation. If you're suffering, keep going. There are better days on the horizon. ❤
I like how Sean uses violence as a defensive mechanism and Theo uses laughter. Even when Sean was breaking down Theo used the peeing around the bed line to try and make Sean laugh and cheer him up. Really powerful episode
Hypocrite Makes fun of izzy after the fight being all emotional.... And NOW he is the one crying ... I thought he was a man's man, can't show emotions .....
Nothing funnier than two men who can’t keep a single train of thought, individually, having a 2 hour conversation 😂😂 I love Theo, and I think he held this together well
1:32:30 "We don't have to talk, man. I can just sit here with you for a minute." The pure goodness in that moment. Shit got me right in my soul. Thank god for the people who are just willing to sit there for a minute.
Respect to Sean for allowing Theo to release the unedited episode. Others would be afraid to compromise their badass image. He is just fighting his sadness with rage. Hope his success brings him some peace with his past
@@JStacknot everyone needs to see a clinical psychologist to help with their problems. Some people just need one other human being to listen to them for a moment.
The amount of statements being misinterpreted is hilarious 😂 Two guys having two completely separate conversations but talking to each other with periods of mass confusion. Hoping they do these more often.
The best one yet! Excellent guest/host dynamic. You're getting really good at this Theo. So glad you decided not to cut the hard bits, young men need to hear that you can be strong and open.
He went from complaining about ventura, to realizing he's loved anyways, and he can just let people go. It's not a competition. Funny that Sean said he's a Rogan level on this episode.
When Sean saw Theo felt the trauma first hand and shed a tear first, Sean knew he could finally share his pain with Theo and just let go. So grateful to have someone like Theo on earth.
Never thought I'd cry watching Theo, what a good guy. Massive respect for Sean as well. When Theo said "it's OK, we don't have to talk, we can just sit here "
@@jordansmobiledetailing5097 well might not mean much but I appreciate you and proud of you bro keep up the good attitude something beautiful just round the corner for you
The fact that he’s genius to see how Sean holds very contradictory beliefs, and as someone who has experienced and takes his trauma seriously, it’s just hypocritical that he isn’t empathetic to others’ trauma. He said when Dricus insulted him about being beat as a kid, those words “crossed the line”. Sean thinks you can’t joke or insult people about child abuse because it’s a sensitive. You can see how much it hurts him thinking about it and thinking about the trauma he associates with it. But he doesn’t hold the same perspective to other peoples’ traumas. People who were beat up as kids for being a different race, and women who were sexually assaulted get the same bad feelings when someone insults them about those things the same way Sean gets bad feelings when someone insults him about his things. But Sean disregards other peoples’ trauma entirely, despite knowing how his trauma makes him feel, which is just hypocritical.
The fact that he’s genius to see how Sean holds very contradictory beliefs, and as someone who has experienced and takes his trauma seriously, it’s just hypocritical that he isn’t empathetic to others’ trauma. He said when Dricus insulted him about being beat as a kid, those words “crossed the line”. Sean thinks you can’t joke or insult people about child abuse because it’s a sensitive. You can see how much it hurts him thinking about it and thinking about the trauma he associates with it. But he doesn’t hold the same perspective to other peoples’ traumas. People who were beat up as kids for being a different race, and women who were sexually assaulted get the same bad feelings when someone insults them about those things the same way Sean gets bad feelings when someone insults him about his things. But Sean disregards other peoples’ trauma entirely, despite knowing how his trauma makes him feel, which is just hypocritical.
The fact that he’s genius to see how Sean holds very contradictory beliefs, and as someone who has experienced and takes his trauma seriously, it’s just hypocritical that he isn’t empathetic to others’ trauma. He said when Dricus insulted him about being beat as a kid, those words “crossed the line”. Sean thinks you can’t joke or insult people about child abuse because it’s a sensitive. You can see how much it hurts him thinking about it and thinking about the trauma he associates with it. But he doesn’t hold the same perspective to other peoples’ traumas. People who were beat up as kids for being a different race, and women who were sexually assaulted get the same bad feelings when someone insults them about those things the same way Sean gets bad feelings when someone insults him about his things. But Sean disregards other peoples’ trauma entirely, despite knowing how his trauma makes him feel, which is just hypocritical.
The fact that he’s genius to see how Sean holds very contradictory beliefs, and as someone who has experienced and takes his trauma seriously, it’s just hypocritical that he isn’t empathetic to others’ trauma. He said when Dricus insulted him about being beat as a kid, those words “crossed the line”. Sean thinks you can’t joke or insult people about child abuse because it’s a sensitive. You can see how much it hurts him thinking about it and thinking about the trauma he associates with it. But he doesn’t hold the same perspective to other peoples’ traumas. People who were beat up as kids for being a different race, and women who were sexually assaulted get the same bad feelings when someone insults them about those things the same way Sean gets bad feelings when someone insults him about his things. But Sean disregards other peoples’ trauma entirely, despite knowing how his trauma makes him feel, which is just hypocritical.
The fact that he’s genius to see how Sean holds very contradictory beliefs, and as someone who has experienced and takes his trauma seriously, it’s just hypocritical that he isn’t empathetic to others’ trauma. He said when Dricus insulted him about being beat as a kid, those words “crossed the line”. Sean thinks you can’t joke or insult people about child abuse because it’s a sensitive. You can see how much it hurts him thinking about it and thinking about the trauma he associates with it. But he doesn’t hold the same perspective to other peoples’ traumas. People who were beat up as kids for being a different race, and women who were sexually assaulted get the same bad feelings when someone insults them about those things the same way Sean gets bad feelings when someone insults him about his things. But Sean disregards other peoples’ trauma entirely, despite knowing how his trauma makes him feel, which is just hypocritical.
@@joey13766 He's obv joking. Comedians will even joke about trauma, but clearly when it came down to it Theo showed compassion and solace with silence when needed. You can even see him tear up seeing the little boy in Sean hurting.
As a man who works in mental healthcare, often supporting individuals with trauma its so inspiring seeing a guy like Sean show a tear and not be embarrassed about it. Nothing to be ashamed of and incredibly brave. Hope he gets it done against DDP
I understand he’s suffered a lot in life but I don’t agree with the sexist attitude he has towards women. I would happily look after the house if I didn’t have to work. In this world now we both have to work and it’s tough. Why should women still be expected to do everything at home plus working full time? It would be a miserable existence.
@@bethannmajella look at the guy who replied to you. That’s someone who has sexist takes. Sean is actually joking. Like when he says, I think women should (blank), and then everybody starts laughing. He knows he’s saying something that’s gonna cause a laugh.
i’m a psychologist and this was such an interesting case. he clearly has so much trauma. and while someone like him would benefit IMMENSELY from internally overcoming it, it’s also what led him to become one of the greatest fighters on earth. So hopefully he can get to the top of his game and then whenever he decides to retire at somepoint(preferably before he starts murdering people) he can begin to try to workout his struggles because you can’t push that shit down forever.
How this podcast hasn’t taken over the internet world is weird. This is the most incredible podcast I have ever seen. I felt every damn emotion possible
I duno guys, I feel he interrupted way too much in this interview. He goes down these rabbits holes and doesn't allow sean to finish his sentence then sean ends up having to remember what he was saying rather than theo picking up from were they left off.
Also want to add that just reading through the comments says a lot about kind of people here and how much love and compassion we truly have for one another. Beautiful
Damn, not in a thousand years will I ever expect the second hour of the podcast to be so emotional and heart wrenching. This is a episode I hope a lot of people see.
I actually lost a bit of respect for Sean. He constantly rips into everyone about being a man and literally shat on Khalil for crying, then he does it himself.
Seeing the real genuine empathy for sean makes me like Theo even more than i already did. You dont find very many good hearted people like this anymore.
their dynamic was fun to watch. Sean going at Joe, Theo being loyal to Joe but entertaining his guest, Sean trying to bully Theo, theo having him fact checked and reigning him in on rants and prejudices... but theyre both hurt, and theo manages it with humour, sean with aggression. and its only after they go through all that sparring, then they get real, then they become equals, then they get deep, then they connect. Its fuckin beautiful.
The rawness and authenticity of this entire episode is what is lacking so much in this world. I applaude Sean & Theo for having the balls to air this episode. Real men arent afraid to be real!🏋️💪
