Im 52. Played wow from launch till Wrath. Came back for Sod. i realize im not as good a player. As i was back in my hay day. But i just feel the community is so toxic now. Glad i got to experience. The game from its start. ill never forget. The world first pvp event. In Hillsbrad foothillz before any battlegrounds came out. The login que's that first week. Wow will always hold the spot of my alltime favorite game.
I'm 48 and this is exactly how I feel as well. Just nowhere near as good as player as I was even though I prepare a lot before going into a raid ect... I haven't found the community toxic like yourself and have enjoyed SoD but I'm done now and probably my days in WoW are done period, just lost interest.
100% agree, i recently hit level 60 on the classic era servers, and i found so much toxicity amongst the level 60 user base with plenty of racism and hostility.
Mop remix, Cata, and leveling being absolutely destroyed with incursions got me off SoD tbh. It’s hard to rationalize playing it full time when I don’t even know what will happen to my character after sod is done 😢
We already knows what happens to it since phase1, blizzard said they would stay on the server like our Classic 60 characters did to live happily ever after.
Honestly, i think the late gear change is a kick in the nuts. We raided for what four weeks? Not rolling on stuff because it sucks. Now all of a sudden its good, and it feels bad knowing you passed on something that wouldve been bis. The retroactive changes like that could be making players fed up.
Actually it was a clever move because they pushed p4 over a month and eith this they might give a small incentive to rerun ST. It s clever but a dick move also
SoD breathed new life into WoW for me. I had given up on it, not even interested in retail with upcoming expansions. Then the devs gave up and left SoD on the kitchen counter like cold pizza from last week.. it' still good, going bad and more and more people won't play it anymore including myself. Phase 4 will need to be pretty epic to draw players back as this point,..
I'm glad you haven't given up making content for SoD. I honestly look forward to your videos every day. I still play SoD daily but end up pugging most content because my guild's activity is almost nonexistent and we are one of the larger ones. It really sucks but hopefully Phase 4 will bring it back to life. I have been doing my own little gold farm on my main called: Do every quest in the game LoL! I'm sure I'd make way more money spamming incursions but it's fun actually going back and doing all these quest lines I'd forgotten about and actually reading shit this time around. Keep the fire alive brother 🔥
Going from 10 man with 3 days lockout to 20 man with 1 week lockout, add that with Incursions, release of Cata and Panda remix at the same time...ofc playerbase is split/leave. My guild had like 2-3 raid teams every week since p1, but p3 we did ST maybe 5-6 times, now ppl are taking a break until p4. We used to be like 20-30 ppl on even on a none raiding day. Now it's 4 max and that is during prime times. Phase 4 really needs to deliver because p3 has "fk-all" to do in this phase. Have main and 4 lvl 50 alts, profssions maxed out (fishing cooking incl), over 2.5k gold so bored AF atm.
Not that worrying IMO. There is just 0 incentive to play right now. The raid is not bad but we all got our set and even the upgraded stuff (which some of us even kept) is not essential. I haven't raided for the last 2 weeks but I still log on to do some rep grind for timbermaw. As soon as that is done I probably won't log in at all until phase 4, but I will certainly be here for it. It's sad that blizzard fail so hard in appreciating when they have scored a hit and manage to under utilize it. But it is what it is.
@@Kaghoegaming i also hope he is correct but i will add, this is my 3rd go on classic wow (launch, relaunch of vanilla, and SOD), there prolly won't be a 4th for me specifically, I was sorta hoping for classic plus but we got something else, for me: classic plus is just classic with more content but all the same abilities and balance, sod was not what i expected but i did enjoy phase 1.
Same!! I didnt plan on going back to cata but prepatch got me and tbh i was burnt out on SoD …now that felt like a job. Since Cata launch it seems like it has def brought the numbers and im glad. At least I know the players that are there really want to be there
Cata will die off faster then WotLK. Im sure SoD will be back on top in P4. Definitly wont touch Cata. If not for SoD i would not be playing WoW at all anymore. Hope we get a new / better Classic +
i dont understand why people worry so much about a game dying. if YOU are ejoying a game then play it and if you start to no enjoy yourself then find a new game. i personally dont care what other people do or are playing.
all these "is the game dying" videos are doing is telling new comers to not join in the fun because the game is "dead"...it is in fact not dead if not its better with out all the bandwagoneers not playing.
What I'm getting at is I don't see us calling out a game for dying that much help. Enjoy a game while it's fun and move on like any person would. I'm enjoying it so I'm staying but the majority ain't so we lose some. Seeing "dying game" isn't going to bring new comers and honestly new comers are the best type of people to play with rather than the try hard flavor of the month gamers. Imo
It's because cata is actually better then what we thought and 100× more fun then sod lol I loved sod but it's def dead I don't see it going back up to even phase 2 numbers. Cata is a blast tbh I thought it would be wack but it's really really good
@Kaghoegaming ya like the late loot upgrade, incursions, bad pvp and no info just feels like a slap to the face and idk if I or anyone's else wants to comeback and waste time bot knowing if it will be good or what's going on. When I can just play cata and know the road and where my time and money is going
I mean if we're talking wow classic, it's mainly about end game and somewhat the questing journey to it. Everything SoD has done to this point is focusing on everything that wow classic isn't known for. I think the numbers will be somewhat better in phase 4 as it gets to it's core content. There are ofcourse alot of reasons to why the numbers may be low now, cata, war within, diablo 4, mop remix, phase getting old. I myself am just not playing and waiting for s4. The mid level raids just doesn't do anything for me and the pvp is just in a weird spot.
Wild Growth horde side will just end up being one large guild because all of the major ones disbanded. On discord there’s a lot of guilds running together for content which is great to bring strangers together but phase 4 will be something…
Such a good idea to keep all the end game 60 content off for SOOOOOOO LONG....So glad we have had months of clearing ST....while literally every single player is just waiting for level 60 which is what we all wanted out of SOD anyways....what a complete joke. They just gave up after phase 1.... hopefully we'll get STV blood moon as the level 60 PVP content! EVERYONE LOVES THAT RIGHT?!?!
Im still hopeful for p4 because lvl 60 content is always hype for classic. I think people will definitely come back, its still on them to not ruin it though.
in p1, people had like 893243 alts. so... the big drop is from that since nobody has that many alts anymore. you're lucky if people have even one alt i personally ONLY raid on ONE character and i think most people who were raiding on 893243 characters now only raid on 2 at best
It's just a lull. It'll bounce back. But I just did my first incursion and it was messy. I like the concept, but as with many things the SOD team have done, it was badly implemented.
As a priest main that skipped phase 2 I would just get in level to 50 quick, do incursion until honored in one evening, buy a full set, do a couple Gnomers and voila I'm raid ready. Did ST a couple of times with my casual guild, easy peasy as long as u don't have parsing pepegas not doing what they're supposed to aaand you're done. Waiting room for next phase and ppl sloped off to Cata or other stuff. I think they should have made this phase level 60 instead and had ST as a 55 or 58 raid, added Dire maul, MC and Onyxia, but the team is probably too small. Next phase is probably going to have a slow start too as some will be invested in Cata and War within is coming out around the same time
SoD is starving for an update. Once next phase drops, it will be fixed. Saying that it is dying, is too strong a statement. It will continue to lose people until the next phase, yes. It is dying, no.
If people dont like the current game, they wont like the future game, they put similar content to what we farm 20 years and people grab the torches and march for revolution screaming incursions killed sod, while incursions is grouping questing tagging mob killing boss killing, they dont like the game for their reasons, definatelly its not dead, first time ever in era you have so many groups at weird hours of the day, never saw it in other versions, also if you spam LFG DPS and then no1 speaks to you, you dont have to come here and say the game is dead, you didnt find a group because you want things done for you
@@shifterashtongue2684 This phase recycled STV for pvp, and did not release AV early. We got Sunken Temple remastered which is one of the least popular dungeons that we are forced to raid in. There has been nothing to do in PVP or PVE for weeks now. That is what I meant by starving for an update. Next phase we get remastered MC, and AV with a fresh reputation grind. We potentially get the Karazhan dungeon, and we get Onyxia. The future game looks much better than the current phase.
@@you9421 av is a 60 bg, also personally i love st and i know its every corner, before the raid existed, and i find it amazing, its location and its map, are very suitable for a raid. personally at this phase i expected BRD raid as a huge raid war trying to breach the city of the dark iron dwarves since as a dungeon (the full run) is mostly done by non 60 people unless they farm something specific. But again st captures the raid feeling, has the huge rooms, looks like a maze to people and gives that feeling of the unknown. But for the raid part st is better than gnomer or bfd imo, and looks better and more like a raid. Now that i didnt get to guess what raid they made which occupies my 1h per week, i couldnt care less, the loot in st is amazing, so many meme items, and ofc we play for the enjoyment they wont give you powerful upgrades, we are already as strong as a bwl 60, not to say more
Phase 1 was really cool but sod wasnt what I personally wanted. But the lack of player retention, shows blizzard that sod isnt priority. Which really sucks
i went insanely hard p1 and p2 then lvled 8 50s thru incursions still not full bis but im just wait till 60 to start raiding again ST was pretty good but kinda burnt out
Blizzard is killing SOD. When you split your player base before you finish your game and your not getting a new player base you dilute it to the point it dies. Way to go Blizzard. Stop releasing content for all games and stop splitting your player base.
I have not stepped foot into gnomer even. When they got rid of GDKP'S I quit. I was about 13 on the roster in my guild. And I also have a schedule that is all over. So a consistent raiding schedule doesn't work for me. I doubt I'm alone in these challenges, but it is what it is, feels to me as if they wanted to make SOD less casual friendly.
We say these things…but we’ll still play a dead game. Then we’ll get bored by the end of the month (especially if you’re sweaty). Then we’ll complain. Then new content comes out…rinse and repeat. I’m not sure why WoW players expect anything different than this…
The guild I’m in even tried to merge with another guild to raid. We still didn’t have enough to fill the roster. They announced a suspension until phase 4. We’ve all got most of the gear. So there isn’t a lot of reason to keep raiding I guess. I’m a new player and wanted to keep doing it but I get why they don’t want to.
Currently leveling alts on remix and having some fun...gave a break from SOD, incursions kinda rushed everyone to 50 endgame...ST imo is fun but takes to long to clear, too much trash and the upgrade compared to incursion set is NOT THAT big to be worth imo
It's simple. This phase for the same amount of time raiding per week we're getting half the loot, due to the 7 day lockout. That and you waste your first half hour killing trash before a boss, you get burned out.
The whole raid is 1 hour, are you people delusional? We are talking about 10 minutes of trash! have you ever done aq bwl or naxx to see what trash means? People would take 1 hour to reach twins and 2 hours to reach cthun after twins just because of trash, you people are in outter space and have no connection with the actual game, yet you come and post your opinion, that doesnt make sence, 10 minutes per trash per week and you post a comment about it?
And a second thing that also makes me puke on this single comment, is wow a mmorpg with endless of activities to participate, just raiding for you? Would 2 hours per week make you love the game but 1 hour per week OMG NO I HATE. What the actual f people for real
I raid in three diff guilds and they are all struggling to fill their raid rosters atm, most folks are just taking a break of the burn out. Please do an update once p4 is out and you will see the player base correction!
I don’t know why people are complaining. Been really enjoying the freedom on the less busy server. Got my Defender of the Timbermaw trinket. My Tidal Charm, and leveled my druid to 50. Cataclysm is garbage. People will be back for phase 4.
Incursions killing wpvp, leveling and pretty much the whole inmersion of the world kill SoD for me. I instantly quit SoD the moment it only took me 5 hours to lvl to 50 from 40... Now incursions are the way to get gold, killing gathering professions for gold making, also killing fishing and cooking for economy. Inflation was nuts. And because fishing and gathering professions died because of incursions a lot of less people stop going out in the world so less wpvp. Also because people were stacked af for incursions pvp became very toxic, which led to free xfers from pvp svs to pve which led to less ppl in pvp svs which leds to ppl quiting. P3 did A LOT dmg to sod, and the moment incursions made it to the game as a system it destroyed pretty much everything. And there's no really easy fix to this. A lot of people just made MASSIVE amount of golds that you could only see in retail or cataclysm. At this point the only option they have to SoD is to OBLITERATE incursions once and for all, not give any exp nor gold. And pray for people to come back. The other option is just give up on it and restart Classic wow by doing another season or whatever Classic + will be
As much as people say classic is about "the journey to 60" it still isn't the greatest without the overall level 60 experience. Basically each phase has been a pit stop to the content most of us are waiting for. Phase 4 is gonna rock, can't wait!
Although I agree that there are less people playing, I still don't think those numbers are even close to correct. It's only counting number of people raiding and with the current raid being a 20 man and a lot of people not wanting to participate in that, there are a lot of people not counted. I still haven't been into St with a gear score of 603.
That is bs, the game on pvp eu server is SO ALIVE ATM had only 1 week of LESS people like 30% less but NOT EVEN at peak hours it was the same, now i dont know if the stats are from all the casual guilds and servers who wanted to TRY sod but the big pvp server is fricking full, you cant find an empty outdoors world spot, everywhere there are farmers and gankers, they just smoke good grass man and make those numbers, from already dead servers, now this title is pure puke because its propagandizing, but thats another story
As much as I dislike GDKPs, for what they represent and the gold buying that inevitably occurs as a result, I still feel that SOD lost a very sizable portion of players due to the banning of GDKPs. If you really think about it, GDKPs were going on for years and it never caused people to "quit" playing the game just because GDKPS were in the game. People disliked them sure but nobody was actually quitting because GDKPs were in the game. But people certainly quit when they banned GDKPs I can guarantee you the numbers would show that they lost far more concurrent players than they gained as a result of banning GDKPs.
No they didnt make people quit, more like the opposite, made people nonstop make alt puppets to put in gdkp circulation, you couldnt even get a tank for a dungeon for FREE when people found out they should be PAID to play good. Gdkps ruined the game in a really serious way, caused CRAZY CRAZY inflation 1.6k gold for a flask, to the point that currently classic era is unplayable, and generally made everyone look the game like a gold making oportunity on EVERYTHING THEY DO. Also made this issue of endless made toons by everyone just to gdkp all day long to make gold to gdkp, this is not wow. No we dont want your gdkps go away
Personally i am not super excited about P4..... MC and Ony for the 100th + time is not something i wish to do...... They would need to bring a new raid into P4 to bring interest in my opinion like the Kara Crypts they promised. For now Cata is actually quite entertaining
@@Kaghoegaming well ye and they showed some previews of the gear but... They will not change old content that's what im saying im sure im not alone saying I crave new raids/content on P4 just MC/Ony with new items wont be enough to pull people away from Cata in my opinion
Nightmare incursion doesn't have the same replayability like blood moon or even battle for ashenvale. Most (tryhard sweaties) people had already finished the grind for WSG and AB. ST loot table is not as good as (relatively speaking) the loot from previous raid phases.
I tried to stick with sod but my server is empty. I decided to give cata a try. Leveling a DK slowly and working all professions. Not going to have any alts. Just 1 main that i will try to master.
I think people got really tired of the constant content treadmill Blizzard keeps you on. If its not Wotlk, its SoD. If its not SoD, its Cata. If its not Cata, its Retail with MoP Remix until War Within drops. Repeat ad nauseum. I love Warcraft but man I feel like a little donkey being baited around with a carrot on a stick. It's too much to account for especially because every ecosystem has its own meta, raid requirements, player etiquette, min/max optimizations, etc.
Okay before I even begin I have a question about nightmare incursions ? why does everyone dislike them ? because I've done them by myself and I've done them with a group and I look at the other ways you would normally level a character and encourages are just so much more fun ? it's questing I mean what's the difference between Nightmare incursions and dungeon ? so first question why does everyone dislike them ? I mean I get maybe because they feel required but that's something I can think of. secondly sod phase 3 20 man was a mistake on top of that sunken Temple is still way too hard for your average pug on top of that sod phase 1 was casual friendly for the most part everything passed that isn't the Box reputation it's not fun to make alt characters and the leveling buff helps a lot but that's only one part of the puzzle. awesome I got 50 crud now I still have to go back and do Nightmare incursions and the other two reputations joy and someone will say well join a guild well the problem with that is most guilds are going to require you why don't you already have these runes already well if you can't buy name one to help you with them you can't really get into a guild it's an endless Circle. and there's no ketchup mechanics really the closest thing is nightmare incursions I say at this point reputations should be either account wide so you only have to do it once or rdf and the Tabernacle system gets brought in so people can grind those reputations through taverns and before someone says oh well that's not classic really because last I checked both of those systems were in Wrath. that's the reason the barrier to entry is just too high and it takes way too long that's why and honestly I would disagree I think phase one was better because it was easy I don't think people are playing for the extremely difficult rate progression despite of what people say well look what happened sunken Temple has been the hardest rates so far oh look the game is dying because of it. and again the lovely buff certainly helps but it's not enough
It’s a combination of factors that made phase 3 a hyper grind fest. First the incursions blunder, then nerfing it after like 48 hours so everyone who couldn’t play sweaty missed out on heaps of gold. Super boring and pointless content. Then the Wild offering farm. Approach was all wrong, didn’t encourage players to enjoy dungeon content at all. Join 10 man raid, skip to last boss, rinse and repeat. Then ST being a 20 man after most really settling into 10 mans, small guilds with mates who pug the last few spots. It was the perfect way to play. 20 man destroyed guilds and pissed off too many people. Loot is average, and not enough of it drops. Another factor was the p1 PvP event was actually pretty fun and combined pve-esque gameplay. P2 & p3 being stv was pretty bad. Especially if you played melee. PvP is a big component of the game and nobody really talked about how screwed its was there for a while. Shammy still reign supreme. Do all the devs play shammy or something lol? Anyway, sod p4 has potential if they use the runes and new additions to ENHANCE the OG vanilla content, not adding new random junk. And for the love of god just balance classes in pve/pvp so we can have some good dps competition while we play !
Dying vs waiting: wow's playerbase is stagnant, it's the same people swapping to the different versions of the game. Retail, mop remix, cata, classic era, classic hardcore, sod. Of all of these season of discovery has the most lackluster content at the moment. They want these same players to play cata also.
@@claytongiampaolo7848 season of mastery was released way to soon after classic vanila. Was only a few months in to TBC and we just finished classic content. Timing is key. SoD was perfect timing but now there are to many versions atm.
@@GowtuGames I know season of mastery was released at a terrible time, kindof my point though. Cata is just now doing the first raid thing, so many players have that toon they've invested in since 2019 classic, they are going to try it no matter what as long as their subscription is payed for. We will see if cata dies off like it did before though. Mop remix, honestly I don't know what it is cuz I don't care. I see it as classic will end with cata, they're giving panda peeps their thing right now.
@@Kaghoegaming dude you already know they can't cheapass end game, we'll get a portal or something to a new dungeon or raid. I've been watching your vids and I'm hoping along with you dawg. I wanted Uldum for our lvl50 raid since uldamon dungeon dead ends there and it would've been perfect for something new. In 2 weeks they'll give you something to work with for content!
I’m just logging on SOD to raid once a week, do my arcanite transmute and salt shaker CD. I’d like to farm gold but I’m enjoying my time over in MoP and have already leveled 6 toons to 70
Iäm logging in to farm 2 felcloth to make a mooncloth every 3 days basically and mop remixing atm. ST got boring for me pretty fast and many guildies got fed up of having to find pugs every week. Dad guild didn't scale up to 20 man like magic, who knew....
Its not dying. It has died and will re revived in phase 4 we absalutley need 10 man raids through the board. Bwl aq naxx etc. There are so many guilds right now with 10-14 active members. Me and my friends are raid logging atm 1 day a week 😂. Fingers crossed blizzard listen to the players and male good changes.
Raid logging and can't understand why you can't fill a 20m? If you can't fill a 20m then you're not in a guild. You're a small collection of people that want Blizzard to change the game so you don't have to recruit. You put minimal effort into building your guild and then complain when it can't fill a raid team. What you do is you pug what you need and then recruit them afterwards if you're a good guild with a good raid lead. If you have 13-14 good players then you should be able to drag just about anyone into ST and clear.
@brandonwilson4740 I press my guild recruitment macro every 10 mins when I'm online. Like I said there are many guilds with more then 10 and less then 20 ppl. Everything you said is completely untrue.
@@brandonwilson4740ikr. Recruite or combine guilds. Especially when you dont raid on a niche time like late night or afternoon it should be easy af to get ppl
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Thing is, sod could have gained a lot of new wow players BUT if I were one of those new players, I wouldn't touch this game ever again in my whole life lol
This phase just sucks. I don’t think incursions were the biggest problem like most do, I just think they dropped the ball in terms of the max level content. Wild offerings were brain dead content of farming princess runs with 10 people, bloodmoon event has nothing worth grinding for and the item I needed took me like 3 bloodmoons, the raid is fun in terms of mechanics but the gear is some of the most minimal upgrades compared to gnomer gear and the buffs to gear probably came too late. On top of the SOD added content they pretty much made most of the classic BIS farming obsolete with the raid gear. They just haven’t given people a real reason to play the game during this stage. I do have a theory and I’m not a conspiracy guy, but it does feel like SOD is a weird gateway into cataclysm….they added a bunch of cata abilities, and they didn’t really provide much in the way of content for phase 3. The devs literally suggested when the next phase was delayed to play cata and retail lol. I think they knew with the declining of players with WOTLK and the divided opinions on cata that it wouldn’t be a slam dunk and they wanted something to keep classic players invested hoping they may get into cata due to boredom.
I hope sod isnt a gateway into the war within with xalatath and all those lore of sod, cata, its not dont worry. The wild offering spam you say gives endless potential IS vanilla (t0.5 extra spanwed bosses) also you havent ever done mara speedrun with 10 people, i find it amazing as a thought even if its not gambling rewarding because mara loot is same and bag mostly gives trash. Incursions are pure pve content including tagging mobs doing quests grouping up and killing bosses,yeah the same, as same as mining in circles or spamming a dungeon. Also keep in mind that vanilla upgrades were always that small, if you check mc bwl and aq good pieces theyre the same things just less stamina more dps, warriors get brd arena chest and then aq first boss (literally after 3 raid tiers) is similar if not worse...
phase 3 wasn't even as popular as phase 1's drop off, its not that it was a 20 man raid, its that there is no content worth playing. BRD is 5x better than sunken temple on a bad day there's no need to gear up its so easy to come by there's no need to level up, its so easy with XP buffs no one wants to do cringe incursions if you like being overpowered you've already moved onto Cataclysm
People should get used to this sadly, Blizzard want to shuffle us from version to version which is a VERY bad design for legacy/classic content. After SoD, honestly done with this shit gaming company.
I think a lot will come back for phase 4. I’m with you Kags I think it’s a combination of all things that you said including the stupid and random server transfers they opened. That literally killed Guilds and was a horrible decision by the dev team. I myself and getting my warrior 50 right now and will be fine getting him emerald wardens gear but what is there to do after that? PvP? My guild is inactive and you basically have a day or two after resets to raid. So that really is the state of the game right now. People aren’t hyped for ST because ultimately the gear doesn’t matter. The phases are way too long
For the first time in vanilla wow, you have months to prepare for 60 while not being 60, first time ever, yet people have done minimum to zero preparation and rhink 50 is the endgame, its good because if you cannot find what to prepare for 60, you will be buying our items off AH
@@shifterashtongue2684 you say that as if you know the content in p4. They easily could introduce a new bullshit grind like Incursions that just made your months of farming completely worthless
@@wellzsauce i know that people will find a reason to hate ANY content they release because they dont really care about the game, as you say new bullshit grind like incursions, means you havent thought even half of what incursions do. Do you understand that in classic priests could not farm so most priests were either raidloggers or alts, do you understand that incursions give same farming potential to a pve priest a warrior that cant heal or kite and a bot mage thats spamming zf gy? Also i know i will enjoy p4 because i KNOW that aggrend is a PURE CLASSIC WOW ENTHUSIAST, and i know that there is a small percentage of people who actually have a good taste, in this world, obviously more play barbie retail grinding green cosmetics, their 57382857th tmog piece
@@shifterashtongue2684 incursions are “Barbie retail” content, they do not provide the classes you listed with the same farming “potential” as they have to still be grouped to complete them. I am excited for P4, as someone who has been playing this game since 2005 and EverQuest prior to that I think I have a pretty good grasp on classic MMORPG content and farming for gold really isn’t a part of that experience for most people. I know there will always be people that will white knight for corporations and that is Ok. But outside of your opinion, it is widely shared that phase 3 of season of discovery was a failure despite how exciting you think it was for Priest and Warrior.
@@wellzsauce you sir are blind, people groups and farm the same gold if theyre pve mage pvp priest tank or healer, no? What does the first part of your comment even sais.. they do not provide those classes with the same potential because they have to be grouped? And? Does a gold farming potential in an MMORPG has to do with if youre groupped or not? So strat live and dme jump runs are not gold farms? What are you trying to say
loved P1 to bits, leveled to 40 in P2, got some pre-bis and then some of my guild took a break. Just seemed to die there for me tbh. Such a shame, had so much potential. Hopefully the next iterations of C+ can learn from them.
Phase 3 was a massive turn off for me. Everyone who rushed the incursions made a ton of gold and blazed through the levels. My same class on Cata is way more engaging. Blizz has really been boring with the runes I.E. 10% additional explosive shot damage (absolute snooze fest) when they could give me disengage or deterrence or something new and dynamic. Hopefully, phase 4 will be great and people will come back. But if my class isnt improved in terms of fun im not playing anymore because again the runes have been majorly boring and honestly a pain in the ass to even get. I dont want to run all over the world to get an ability, thats not content its just wasting my time.
what did you expect phase 3 had his bumps people had way too high expectations, Incursions were sadly not that great (kinda shit tbh). Raid loot was undertuned and the raid was the first few weeks pretty hard for casuals. also Cata came as well as Mop Remix and people crave new content.The last nail in the coffin was the phase 4 Delay ofc people will stop playing SoD which dosent mean they wont return if Phase 4 is a banger, then the rats will come and Ravage Azeroth anew
Not gonna lie kago the last like 10 videos you put out are literally all the same. We get it bro. None of this information is really new to any of us you’re literally repeating yourself in these videos over n over again
That’s not what I ment by the same. Sorry that came off rude as shit, ima fan bro. But the last week or two it’s been the same thing over n over again.
Well there’s not much to do other then speculate atm, I feel that I’ve covered possible and future farms. I try my best to make every video original and new in some way. But daily content is tough at times with no new information
Ofcourse it’s dying because it’s just classic different, and the main reason it’s dropping is the classic team is split betweeen actual classic did a d the remnants of hardcore ….those should be different teams or you get versions of the game that die because people a big chunk play classic to see expansions they never played wether they left or started the game later then most at a later expansion.
I hated STV , just did it to get weapons , then came Incursions which i hate and it destroyed the world , also STV had a major impact on battleground's . I dont wana lvl alts because i cant be arsed finding all the glyphs , so all i had was raiding which i got bored of , so i cancelled sub :(
@@Gorezethe hype is gone. 1/2 the people left playing are toxic as hell. The forums are just nothing but negativity when P1 and even P2 people were positive.
@@RichSmithson and where is the hype now? cataclysm? the expansion nobody wanted? The only reason ppl play it is because they want p4. Cataclysm was good in the beginning then it turned to dogshit. It was long and boring. Its gonna die in a month
i will never play retail if sod doesnt rally i will prob take a break and maybe keep an eye out for fresh era/seasonal servers, SoD is fine but the lack of people online harmed the game more than any of peoples gripes ive been seeing
@teambammotorsport7249 how did EXTRA content ruin the game, people spam sm cath with a 50 in party, and most have an alt and do it for free, did it ruin THIS experience of getting boosted? Is dungeons also content youre forced to do? Did we have an opinion against dungeons 20 years now? Delusional Is it repetitive? Did anyone go and say mining is repetitive? Im farming epl YEARS same circle same repetitive content, many thousands of people do this, did ONE EVER COMPLAIN? Also other point: Is it fair if in a game they try to balance stuff only mages and hunters can farm gold mass pulling dungeon mobs? Do you understand era has always little priests because they cant farm? How did you play this game for 20 years but incursions RUIN IT FOR YOU IN 3 DAYS PLAYED? ARE THERE CHEMTRAILS OVER YOUR HOUSE?
I just got all pve bis rogue runes (frickin ALL) exept the wild offering rune because i was like level 35, and i got them ALL IN UNDER ONE DAY (day not day played) too much pain? GO FORTNITE
@@Neilpaige you people are funny, """my game is dead""" is that so? That is all you got? So immature? Do you get satisfaction in telling some random guy on the web that a game he enjoys and you dont is dead(no its not).? How l o w can you people go
The extension of p3 killed sod. I have zero interest In logging on now. Economy is screwed. Raid is boring. Cats raids are awesome. There’s nothing to make me want to log on. The devs reallllly dropped the ball here.
He said triplets of hateful words, hate hate, so lets discuss: economy is screwed FOR YOU, because you didnt play for TWO MONTHS and others did, should others quit for you to reach them? Raid is boring, these guys again, again, would TWO hours per week save the gaming experience for you but ONE hour killed it? Isnt that crazy? How much PLAYED and PLAYED 50 did you reach to have such a hateful opinion about the game? I BET under 10 days total and under 3 days 50
I cleared st every week on 3 toons since it came out until cata was released. You are making some wild assumptions lol. The game is seriously lacking content, it’s not an argument it’s a fact. And yes, bots and incursions have ruined the economy.
Also the fact that the devs straight up dropped SoD right before the most hyped phase is kind of telling in itself. We haven’t heard shit about p4 in A MONTH other than it’s delayed.
@@Lumbytele clearing st in 3 toons means definately you dont farm, you just raidlog 3 toons, still under 3 days played 50, did i say something that upset you?
