I was going 25mph around the bend. The cars(drivers) that crashed were distracted or going too fast and hit the barriers before coming into camera view on the crash compilation.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QZhkVT-vpA4.html Here’s the same exit at 65 mph until I pass the 2nd 20 mph sign. The I5 Union Street Exit is hard to get to from Mercer Street South Lake Union on ramp. Maybe some of those cars are crashing after being frustrated with changing lanes 5 times at rush-hour !
Looks like a bunch of idiot speeders that’s all. Can’t defend stupidness. For some reason everybody has to drive fast nowadays that’s why we have so many vehicle deaths
Please upload a video of the many steep hill streets Seattle has, it feels like hell every time driving on those streets. Also circular/roundabout exits/entrances of freeways.
It is an interstate highway.. meaning lots of unfamiliar tourists come through there, driving 75 mph just a few seconds prior to the exit. And not paying too much attention to the ordinary signs.
Looks like they need to bank the turn a bit.. and give more warning about the sharp turn into immediate city streets. The signs don’t seem to relay the dangers ahead.
I grew up in Houston. This video randomly popped up on my homepage and I have no context. So I expected it to be some crazy, impossible looking exit ramp. Got to the end of the video and said out loud "That wasn't even that bad??". 😅 Perhaps someone would like to direct me to the video y'all cane from?
@T You see the turn arrows, which usually indicates a pretty serious turn, you see a traffic light sign right there so be prepared to possibly stop, there's THREE signs indicating a suggested 20 mph turn, which should give you a clue on how sharp this turn is. ALL signs are reflective. And you're exiting off a freeway, No, this isn't "people don't know the street, the exits", this is people who are real new to driving in general, daredevils, or suck at driving.
I mean not really. A lifetime of driving and I have never seen such terrible city planning. This is probably the worst designed road of them all. That is a shockingly short off ramp and I've traveled the country and seen some really bad roads. We aren't talking about your typical crappy city roads. This is a highway off ramp that comes to a complete stop in a area smaller than a football field.
There's no good or bad drivers who crashes into this 90 degree exit. *It's more related on if the driver already took this exit or not.* Sometimes, when you take a curve fast, you must apply more speed to better control the turn. However, the problem with this exit, there's an intersection light right after the curve. So if the light is red, it's hard to manage this strong curve with speed, while trying to apply brakes at the same time. Nothing to do with good or bad drivers, unless you're a slow driver, and if it's your case, of course you'll believe all fast drivers are bad drivers. The exit is the problem, and the city knows it...
@@blackberry8924 what are you talking about? You gotta be slow on curves, and to hell with that traffic light you ain't doctor strange to know what the color of the light is, you should just act only when you see it.
This highlights why reading road signs is just as important as your driving abilities. 99% of the time, they give you all the information you need. First, a sign before the exit says 30 mph, then right as you enter the exit, a sign says 20 mph. I feel like people tend to forget that literacy is a big part of driving.
Funny thing is, I didn't even notice the mph signs. However, it should be common knowledge by now to take exits slower anyway. Plus the big yellow arrow signs, if it's your first time on the road, always assume it's a hard turn and take it accordingly
In general, the more signage required, the worse the design. If you need to read twelve directional signs, and six speed signs, amid forty-five ads, then it isn't the driver's fault.
4 arrows signs, 3 speed limit signs, a traffic stop warning, and 3 exit signs. 500+ yards from the first sign according to Gmaps 0:00 Union St. Exit 165B Sign 0:06 Right Lane MUST EXIT sign 0:09 Union St. Exit 165B Sign #2 0:12 Exit 30mph sign 0:15 Exit Right Turn 20mph sign 0:20 Exit 165B sign #3 0:21 Incoming Traffic Light sign 0:23 20mph Right Turn sign + 2 right turn arrows 0:25 The 3rd right turn arrow All within 500+ yards
All those probably seem like “normal” signage to some drivers who probably can’t even read the road, let alone traffic signs. Given all the accidents. They need to give more dire warnings. And banking that 90+ degree turn wouldn’t hurt either.
@@austinkim9402 You really think the 30+ IDENTICAL incidents weren’t enough??? They can’t make an extremely dangerous and improper stretch of road, and try to make up for it by casual signage.
@@adamfirst9321 11 signs isn't casual signage. Those people were rolling in well above 50mph and honestly this isn't even a unique exit. There are a lot of short exits like those in la county.
It definitely is the fault of the drivers who hit turns going 50+ mph but it's also a terribly built exit. A sharp turn off the expressway into a stoplight just makes me cringe. I can imagine during rush hour that light causes backups into the expressway itself, making the traffic so much worse.
I agree, … but I don’t like compilation videos, I like them all individual videos, that way I don’t have to waste my time watch something over and over and over and over and over and over again, because it’s in ANOTHER compilation video)
@@SummerUntitled It's not just the sharp turn. It's the fact that it's a sharp turn, into a traffic light, out of a tunnel. One some days, you can easily get blinded by the change of light coming out of the tunnel. A lot of people forget about that.
This just proves why my number 1 rule when driving is: ASSUME EVERYBODY ELSE IS INCOMPETENT!! When you put yourself in less situations to have to trust other drivers abilities, the better off you’ll typically be. Absolutely no way anybody should be crashing here.
Thank you, for accurately describing my underlying intuitions, heh lol but in all seriousness. this is absolutely right, you physically cant tell what the "weather" on the road is going to be, for every trip you take, down to every turn you make. until you look forth, and discern the details of the environment, in the few hundred feet and the few seconds you're given, to be able to drive safely. the way i like to put it is: the road is like the governments house; they're never there, they dont care and they're easily irritated when having to deal with it. sure the word house isnt accurate, but its said to emphasize the property aspect and how wasteful large roads are, then when you put them around every corner of your city, yeah big brain. houses themselves are physically banned from using their entire property simply because of the existence of the road- it makes driving "feel" safer because you can see around the corner of a stop sign. which was ultimately debunked because suburbs have awful vehicle-injury rates
Not to mention exits like this are everywhere, I don't know why people are hitting such a clearly visible sharp turn at such speeds. Use your eyes lmao. Even if it wasn't a sharp turn, why are people exiting at what seems to be like 60+ mph.
@@robbylawlor4259 might be due to how long the car is driving straight compared to when it entered the ramp/ exit lane. some people get really accustomed to over-accommodating freeway ramps
People are generally decent drivers, but some people shouldn't to able to own a license for sure. I avoid an accident at least once a day commuting back and forth. Stay vigil!
I came here out of curiosity from seeing everyone crash here and I was not prepared for how beautiful the first 10 seconds were. Vegetation over concrete will always be my favorite aesthetic
i will not lie i5 passing thru seattle is honestly a pretty decent example of somewhat ecobrutalist architecture, and because of it's visible age and some graffiti to spice it up here and there i think it works wonderfully. the james street exit (iirc, if not one of the other downtown exits) is a good one for that
Ah thanks for that. I was also curious to see what the exit looked like after watching the crash videos and was going to look on Streetview, but your video shows it clearly. it's quite a sharp bend. After travelling for many miles at speed on a freeway you need to adjust to slower driving quite rapidly here. 30mph can seem like walking speed after a long drive on a freeway and I think that is what is catching these drivers out.
yeah, but that seems like a very normal exit at least for the highways here in Europe. Are sharper bends that uncommon over there?! We have a ton of exit-bends here that only allow you to go 25 mph...
Never been to America so I don't know. In England we have yellow lines across the road for about a quarter of a mile which get closer together as you approach a roundabout or whatever on a fast road. They give the illusion that you are going faster than you actually are and make you brake. They really are effective.
The exit lane leading up to that bend is quite long, more than enough time to adjust your speed plus there are warning arrows to indicate a tight bend, anyone who doesn't realize they cant get round that bend at highway speed is an idiot and shouldn't be driving
It's honestly not that bad, the thing that always throws me off my guard is the light IMMEDIATELY after the turn. People just need to slow the hell down while driving, it's not a race and the world does not rotate around your daily appointments. Notice it's gotten worse after the pandemic, people seem to have forgotten what safe speeds are.
People are dumb and have no sense of time. They will speed down the street just to end up at the same red light as traffic that is going a safe speed and still think that they are getting ahead. Only thing they're ahead on is their next brake job
and really if you slowed down enough to survive the turn you are going slow enough to easily stop at the red light. or at least I would think you would be
Well you're coming off the freeway where you're going 60mph so normally you'd have a bit more of an off ramp to slow down. If they slow down more it screws up the flow of traffic on the freeway. It's worth it to slow down for sure, but it's not intuitive
I've seen a few comments about the need for rumble strips, but what would be a better option and immediately noticable to anyone taking that exit is the type of electronic sign showing the exit ramp speed limit with flashing yellow lights on the outer edges of the sign. Nobody would be able to say they didn't see that!
Just watched the crash compilation the other day. I'm a Californian who used to do food delivery in Seattle and every day Washingtonians showed me new and exciting ways of driving that any normal person would be ashamed of.
I too have seen the crash videos and was curious about this exit. It’s clearly marked with a safe speed limit. Not sure why people think they can still be doing 75mph 🤦♂️.
Honestly, you're brave for showing everyone how this exit looks cus you really taking the risk of getting smacked by another car that's behind you not paying attention and looking at the road signs that are visible on the exit. You a real one 😂
@@ztsb_koneko drove to work everyday here for years...I never seen anything. this is why anecdotal evidence should never be taken as fact. it's dangerous yes but it's a compilation for a REASON...for fucks sake
Has something changed with that exit recently? I haven't been in that area in a long time but after seeing all those wrecks, I am confused if there are just a lot more bad drivers or something new with this exit.
the blind turn into a light has screwed me up the first time or 2. theres sometimes traffic backed up RIGHT after the blind turn. it can be sketchy. this video is also VERY light traffic for seattle lol
I doubt it would help much, but maybe if they also added a progressive amount of rumble strips prior to the turn, it might get those particular drivers to really slow down.
Thanks for this perspective. One thing I haven't seen much talk of is the fact that the exit spits you out on the left side of a three lane road, and 95% of the time, drivers then want to turn right. So you come out of the exit and have to look over to the right and hope to heck there aren't cars and buses barreling down, blocking the two lanes you want to quick cross over so you can make your right turn.
Well it spits you out in the middle of downtown so you could always just take a right at the next block and go around? Losing you a whopping 15 seconds…
I wanna preface this by saying that while I am a civil engineer, this is is a reflection primarily of my view on civil and transportation engineering and not adhering to a strict set of guidelines. The exit is bad, simple as that. If an exit requires exceptionally more signage than usual and has numerous severe accidents resulting from it, especially involving cars that are stopped and have no way to prevent being badly rear ended, then it's a bad exit. I'm going to assume the alignment (shape of the road) is old and therefore drivers may have had an easier time with less phone distractions and slower cars. However, it doesn't justify the exit as it. I understand people calling drivers dumb who get into accidents here but if engineers thought like that then most humans would suffer needlessly. You can never assume perfect or even average conditions. Take for example the reaction time used in transportation engineering for calculating stop sign distance. It's anywhere from 2.5 to 9 seconds. This is awful. Most people can reaction in a half second to a second at the latest. But take your eyes off the road for a second to change the radio or look at the text that just popped up or perhaps the driver is elderly or impaired. You soon realize why the time is as conservative as it is. I don't have a solution because I'm not a professional transportation engineer in Washington who knows the site conditions. But regardless, it's easy to tell this I'd a bad exit.
it doesn't take a civil engineer to recognize the exit is poor. doesn't matter. if drivers read the signage it wouldn't be a problem. let's spend millions of dollars to adjust or completely close this one exit so that the handful of people that can't drive get to continue not knowing how to drive.
@@gamma00crucis Are you going to say that to the people sitting in the stoplight at the end who get hit by cars screeching out of that exit? Road planning (like most things) doesn't work with that kind of attitude because when someone is maneuvering two tons of metal hurdling across the pavement at 60 mph and they fuck up, other people get hurt or die.
97% of people In seattle shouldn't be able to drive. I dont know when you were last here but I feel like people being away from the roads during covid lockdown made people forget how to drive.
@@grimly105 Lol people always say their state or city has "the worst drivers" "virginia drivers" "montana drivers" but in reality, it's just all drivers, everywhere and anywhere, that shouldn't be allowed to drive
Dude if you went to Seattle you’ll realize that no one in Seattle should be allowed to drive. I came from California and I now have yet to believe that California has the worlds best drivers. I’m sure Germany might be better but dude… also the pedestrians aren’t very smart either, I think they skipped the “look both ways before you cross” lesson
That's it? Are you freaking kidding me? That? That's a typical exit in Boston. In fact, at least in Seattle they offer a speed limit. Sheesh. I though it had a loop or a corkscrew in the tunnel judging by the videos of cars being spit out inverted.
@@miketech79 hey neighbor! I've lived all over the US and have often thought of putting a neon sign on the back of my vehicle that said: Boston Driver: If I'm Driving Slow, You Better Stay Behind Me."
@@thomasmartin7425 LOL, Exactly... most everyone is doing generally 15-20 MPH faster than the speed limits in the Boston metro area. Storrow Drive, Big dig tunnels who follows those 40 and 45 MPH signs?
I grew up in NYC and lived in Chicago, Norfolk, Honolulu, Philly and Seattle. I've never seen more accidents in my entire life than on this stretch of I-5 North going through Seattle towards Everett. I saw a guy on a motorcycle on the express lane in Seattle go flying through the air into the car next to me, my last week before I finally moved away.
This is great! Thank you for noticing how many people were curious about what the ramp looks like, and then taking the time to film it for us. What a guy!
I noticed that the posted speed limit on the exit ramp is 30 MPH and then before the bend a sign indicates 20 MPH plus a sharp turn indicator right on the sign. Also underpasses like this, that don't get much direct rain to wash away surface oil can get extra slippery. If it hasn't rained in a while and then it only lightly rains the water on top of the accumulation of oil can potentially make the roads even more slippery. Slowing down and situational awareness helps a lot.
Yeah, I was noticing that, myself: When I went looking for the crash compilation video (I saw this one first and had no context), most of the crashes looked like the pavement was wet at the time, which reduces braking effectiveness rather a lot.
Yep. Same thing (maybe worse) in Oakland/East Bay. Oil builds up for months and even the slightest shower turns the freeways into high speed slip-n-slides. Nobody slows down until physics takes over. Usually with sub-optimal results. I
This is Seattle. Unless it’s July-early September, there’s no such thing as having not rained in awhile. And it practically doesn’t rain at all for that period, so realistically there would only be a couple days a year where this could happen.
@@Loj84 Most of the crashes looked like people just SUCK and can't follow directions. I've taken that exit multiple times as a passenger and driver. Didn't wreck my car or run a stop light.
I read “Edit” and not “Exit” so I thought I was going to get some kind of phonk mashup of different freeways when I clicked on this video. I didn’t expect a simple exit with only traffic sounds, but I wasn’t disappointed. This is a good vid.
Drivers are not paying attention to the speed signs that are clearly posted to reduce speed. Driver's that crash are idiots and I hope are held 100% responsible for damages.
the signs are sufficient. I drive a trk through 4 states and my eyes are always searching roadways for warning signs. low bridge, stop ahead, tight curve, lane change, speed drops etc etc. there's just too many dummies on the road not paying attention.
I commuted to my job in Seattle for 25 years. The clustered exits and entrances thru downtown are a problem primarily because of impatient, reckless drivers whose aggressive tactics cause most of the collisions.
2003. My brother, Mum and I are headed to Bremerton Raceway. We want to catch the ferry over. My brother sees this exit. It's the one we need. We're in the correct lane but going I-5 speed not exit speed. He undercuts the corner and as we straighten out he jams the brakes. We slid, in his 1987 5.0L 5 speed Mustang, up and through this light. Fast forward to 2005 and coming down fir a Seahawks game. Dad, brother and I. Dad driving a 1994 Ford Explorer. Dad takes this off-ramp and drives, sedately, to this light. My brother and I were amazed at how far down these lights actually were. Made both events safely btw.
@@vlz.matthew AFAIK the exit is as old as I5, which was built in the fifties. Presumably the exit was covered in the eighties when the Seattle Convention Center was built.
What is there to be caught off guard about? Someone taking that exit is going right into downtown Seattle from the freeway. You can't just continue at freeway speed like there's a big long stretch with lots of time to slow down.
@@donniefleuryy.29 its all fun and games till its your family that gets kills by these idiot drivers. Then you will say, why didn't we bring back the death penalty.
I'm also here after the crash compilation video. I was really curious how the road looked like leading to the exit. The comments on that video was disabled so we had no idea what was causing the accidents. Thank you for showing us 👍🏻
Wow!! People who are crashing into this Exit should have their license taken away. I thought this would be a difficult corner, but after finally seeing this, its obvious the people that are crashing can't drive, read signs, or know how to slow down
I remember taking this exit in like 2008 or so, and I remember going just a slight bit faster than I should have. Even at 30, it's that sudden change from dark to light that gets you. This was before they added some better signs too. Always, ALWAYS pay attention and don't over estimate your driving skills.
All they would need to reduce accidents here is a combination flashing amber/30km/hr warning sign on the overpass leading under the bridge. Problem solved. People tend to take those speed limit signs far more seriously when they are marked with a flashing amber warning light. You only ever see them on a speed limit warning sign on a curve that has a history of crashes. Such an easy fix.
I was thinking a flashing light might help too. It's not a defective interchange design, but somebody is going to die there. I notice quite a few cars in the crash video ended up where pedestrians could be standing.
Wrong. Go to the 11 foot 8 bridge youtube. Flashing lights and warning signs absolutely don't help bad drivers. Either you are paying attention or you are not. If multiple reflective bright yellow neon signs don't do it, adding lights won't either. It's just that simple.
@@genogrinberg6014 do you think the 11'8" (+8 now) bridge should remove the flashing lights, barriers, signals, and trip sensors? Clearly people keep hitting the bridge so they should just take them out, right? Just because something won't prevent EVERY crash doesn't mean it's not helpful, or worth doing.
@@mogwix that's not my point. The point is that normal drivers don't have issues with this exit. Only bad drivers do. The signs wouldn't help the drivers who already take the exit properly and it's not going to stop people who aren't paying attention.
I am away from Seattle for a couple of years on studies and it's simple little clips like this that keep me in touch. As well as the crash compilation of the same exit.
I'm so grateful you made the drive on this road so that I could see how on earth all those ppl were speeding and crashing on that bend happened...😂😂😂😂That crash compilation was excellent, best footage EVER💃🏿💃🏿💃🏿🤗
Increasing the length of the ramp and moving the reduce speed sign back further and putting some flashing lights around the speed limit signs would probably help. Maybe also having the stoplight ahead sign on the wall with the arrows might better help alert drivers to the light being around the bend
Maybe they should have Mama come hold their hand through it as well! 🤣! Sorry, imo everything they've already done is plenty enough; people have become WAY TOO COMPLACENT while driving... period! It doesn't matter if it's a street, freeway, highway etc, People seem to be more reckless in general all you can do is a drive as defensively as you can and pray you're not going to cross paths with these clueless drivers today!
Idk how it works there but the issue that I can see is that here in Australia we have two types of speed signs limits and recommendations, so people are usually conditioned to read the recommendation as it is such a common occurrence on turns and exits and decide on there own driving to take the corners disregarding the suggestions. So when a case comes along like this exit where the recommendation is more like a speed limit sign people disregard and continue at the speed limit causing a crash. That’s why extra emphasis on the speed change must be made like flashing ambers to help people understand this is not a typical recommendation
Thanks for the vid. It's a sharp turn for sure, but as a Western Washington resident, the issue is that 50%+ of the people here SUCK at driving, hell even me included occasionally. It's quite obvious that you should slow down, there's really not much of an excuse in my opinion.
Agreed. Washington state is filled with some of the worst drivers I’ve ever seen. Each snow “storm” (storm… HA. Try living in Michigan in winter or Ohio where we get hella lake effect snow..) brings accidents like mad. People drive too damn close here, they don’t pay attention. Idk if it’s all the drugs here or what, or too many Californians, but yeah-trash driving.
As another western Washington resident, it was shocking how much more pleasant it was to drive in Idaho, eastern Oregon etc when I drove on my first road trip. People there actually get out of the left lane on the freeway and let you pass. It’s a beautiful sight.
If I'm ever in Seattle--and I really would love to visit someday--I think I'll immediately take that right onto 7th after exiting, just to get the hell out of dodge. That exit could only be a two-step sort of thing for me... 😅 Thanks for the video!
I lived in Bellevue for 3 years and these signs are pretty new, still you should never go barreling down an exit regardless of angle! The amount of people who get in crashes in Washington, who have lived their whole life in the area and should know the weather and road layout blow me away.
Interesting exit! A couple of things 1) the lighting looks horrendous imagine going into a dimly lit tunnel and then exiting only to be flashbanged by a light going round a turn. 2) Is there a "no trucks allowed" signage earlier? Cause that looks like a nightmare for trucks 3) Overall looks like it was designed well given the space they had and they didn't need to extend it. Not too overly complicated or dumb additions making it less effective than needed.
Thank you, your other video of people crashing after taking it too fast makes sense now seeing it from this way. That’s a harrowing turn right there! Geez don’t be in a hurry! Thanks for your content. Slow down people
I have never seen a highway exit connect directly into a stoplight intersection as abruptly as that. Maybe the length isn't long enough, and coupled with the huge blindspot wall on the right, that might be what's catching drivers who suddenly find themselves facing a red stop light barely 3 seconds after exiting.
The signs should be sufficient enough to warn any driver. There's plenty of signs warning of a sharp turn and large reduction of speed, then there's the traffic light warning sign to let any motorist know that as soon as they turn, there's lights.
Notice the crashes on his previous video. Notice the empty roads. No traffic menas people go 10+ mph over the speed limit because they think it's safe. Also Notice the people crashing. Now consider this, going the posted speed limit is actually a good idea.
Love how desperate I was to see the actual exit after the crashes. I see that a dumb driver can easily crash because it comes off a fast road and seemed wet but at the same time it’s probably common sense to slow down especially when entering a sharp turn with a traffic light warning ahead.
I think it's interesting how many drivers in this country don't seem to understand the concept of an acceleration ramp and a deceleration ramp. If you happen to be one of those drivers... - An Acceleration ramp is meant to allow you to accelerate to the speed of traffic ALREADY ON THE HIGHWAY. It is not to do 30, 40, 50 mph and then make traffic in the right lane slow down and let you in. YOU are responsible for merging onto the highway safely and the acceleration ramp runs parallel to the highway to make that task usually very easy. - A deceleration ramp is used to exit the highway at the current speed of traffic on the highway and once you and it part ways, you are supposed to decelerate to the speed of traffic on the streets adjacent to it, usually again made very easy by the presence of an intersection that will almost always result in the vehicle being stopped before joining the normal traffic flow again. These systems work surprisingly flawlessly IF and only IF you use them for their intended purposes. When you try to merge onto the highway at 45 while everyone else is doing 65+, you're the primary reason traffic jams occur 🙃 so grow a pair of balls/ovaries and follow the rules 😀 Side note- even if the speed limit is 55, 65, 75, etc. going with the flow of traffic in general is THE LAW. If everyone is doing 90, do 90. If everyone is going 45, do 45. This shit really isn't that hard lol
Thanks for posting, the other crash vid made me wonder what all the crashing was about. Nice to see that it's in Seattle, what the citizens have allowed to happen to their city over the last two years makes it hard to have any sympathy for anything that happens there.
I actually want to believe that all of these different crashes are really a part of a very esoteric, high-level “dynamic art installation “; a very well-coordinated, interpretive performance of what has happened to downtown Seattle as a whole!
A good portion of seattle is like this yes, but it’s hard to see from the video just how much litter is in the road or that every building looks exactly the same aside from downtown seattle
I'm from half way around the world and I visited Seattle acouple months ago. The compilation video I saw before this sure did look similar! Now this makes so much sense! I did remember that place from somewhere!!!
Thank you. After viewing the video of the crashes, this video confirmed my suspicions: the vehicles that crashed were being operated by idiots who failed to adhere to the bright yellow signs indicating a right curve and the speed to which drivers are to exit.
The exit is dark at the actual turn even in the daytime shown in this video. Most of the wrecks are shown to have happened at night. There also is no real indication of the sharpness of the turn and how short before the light which can frighten drivers.
I passed an advanced driver test (in the UK) last year and my take on it is mainly a classic error. Too much speed, overestimation of skills, braking and steering (harsh inputs) upsets the car, possibly causing understeer/oversteer depending or into a general skid and most people don't know how to correct a skid, especially in the moment. I didn't until recently. It's quite easy once the principals are learned but on the road, in a panic and with no knowledge is of course a very different story. Now not to mention the reaction time of the driver, condition of the tyres, weather etc. But the fact there's a sign alluding to traffic lights and a blind corner means I'd personally be off the gas/braking for certain (but I am referring to a manual car) when approaching the "limit point" with caution because there could be anything the other side - cyclists, even someone in the road etc. Case in point, there are traffic lights in this instance. Just my take! So many factors apply but I've learned a lot from extra driving training and feel light years more safer and confident. No such thing as a perfect driver but drive safe everyone!
That's exactly my American take on this too, having only passed the basic NY State driver's test (17 years ago). I do wish our tests were more comprehensive though, it would weed out the more clueless drivers for sure. Did that course you passed have an effect on your insurance costs?
So many shitty drivers on the road. The government wants to control guns but not cars which can do crazy amounts of damage. We need to get rid of a good 10% minimum of the drivers on the road currently. We need tests that are actually testing ability to drive properly.
(I find driving in dense cities not fun anyways, they can please build their car-free 15-minute cities, if we get to keep the highways and country roads and offroad trails, there won't be much loss of driving fun)
I think the most underrated aspect of this exit is the slight "uphill" before the turn. You won't have as good of a grip on this turn, which is exacerbated by Seattle's rainy weather.
A lot of those wrecks in the compilation video seemed to be in the evening, so alcohol may have been a factor. Also, a lot of people are traveling to Seattle and relocating to Seattle these days from California. Californians are horrible wet-weather drivers.
I've lived all over the country, including Seattle. The bad drivers are not from California. They are your own. Washingtonians are hands-down the worst drivers in the entire country. It's not even close. I don't even have to look at statistics to tell you with absolute certainty that the stretch of I-5 that runs through Washington has more accidents on it and any other stretch of I-5. I lived in Seattle for two years, and all you people do is blame everyone else for the problems that are so clearly your fault. The weather and topography make the place bad enough, but the people? Oh, it's the people that make it the WORST place.
@@saulspeaks2557The thing is...every region has a general flow that people have become accustomed to. When heavy-footed, entitled, unyielding California drivers come up to Washington, they don't make the adjustment. They think they're still on the 101, claiming lane over the kid in the Sentra. I admit, Washingtonians can be a bit passive-aggressive, so if you see drivers reacting badly in Seattle, it's because they moved past the bewilderment, to giving you a friendly Norwegian check to help you mind the fences.
@@saulspeaks2557 ooh thank you for this comment. Came in from the Midwest because I got stationed here in this state and Lord have mercy, the people here suck. Rude. Rude as HELL. Uptight and annoying. Grumbling and drug addicted. Seattle is a city that is full of people like that. It’s awful. And YES. They are the worst drivers. Me and my late husband used to comment on all the roundabouts here and lack of stop signs out east in the state and he knew “these people suck at driving”.
Seems like the biggest problem is drivers thinking they can handle a 20 mph turn at whatever speed they are comfortable with, but don't realize the loss of traction from leveling out after the quick ramp.
....Regardless of where you're going, you can't predict every other factor of the road, whether a pedestrian will jump out, a car will shoot out, whether there's a giant pothole all of a sudden. There is never an excuse outside of maybe someone literally dying, to speed.
Not all of them, there are some people suggesting modifications. One of them i liked was just to isolate the lane with a wall more distance before the turn, that narrowing would affect drivers psicology to reduce speed. adding some more bumps before the turn will reinforce the speed limit. Also another solucion would be to duplicate the traffic light, adding one more before the entry of the turn. I agree with you that blaming is not useful to solve a problem. The problem with speed limit road signs is that when authorities abuse of this resource with no justification, it turns meaningless. So sometimes when there is a real danger, any information provided to the driver and warning elements must go further. For many people commenting "Driver's that crash are idiots and I hope are held 100% responsible for damages" ...this attitude is not enough and won't help in any way, sometimes people just can't afford the cost of damages, for example when it implies victims ¿How much money would people accept for their legs or their childs, to allow people crash into their cars?. If we assume "people is idiot" ...just have to FIX this... ¿Why are idiot people driving? ¿How did they get their driving license? Authorities musn't look other way alleging "there was a speed limit signal" when certain places have a high rate of accidents, just because many innocent victims didn't commit any fault and authorities, as responsible of traffic order must protect them. If idiot people are driving, and can't solve this, they should take measures considering this fact.
Yeah...going too fast and crashing at this exit is an indication that someone needs to have their license taken away. It's CLEARLY marked from quite a distance as being a sharp turn where you have to slow down.
"Oh its the exit from the crash compilation I was watching earlier" What kind of terminal subculture has youtube directed me into. Do I deserve to be here?
My rule to driving is, I make mistakes. It's people who think every OTHER driver is an idiot who are the problem. (That is, they forget that they can just as likely cause an accident as the next guy.)
I have not really used that exit exit often (hate driving near downtown seattle), but I remember thinking who decided to put a traffic light right at the exit of the freeway after being stuck in traffic for like 10 minutes when it's not even that busy there
THANK YOU, I always wonder what it looks like from the drivers point of view, and now I only PARTIALLY understand why there are so many accidents. I still don't see how they miss all those obvious signs.
This kind of reminds me of the Lincoln Heights exit on I-75. That's a 10 mph curve. I remember this exit when I was in Seattle in 1999. I thought it was rather cool how one went from dark to light into the City immediately.
