I was mate on a Foss tug in Alaska one winter....I've had the experience of the barge trying to pass us a time or two....you learn things up there you never knew you needed to know. Like don't lash the the fuel truck down next to the powder magazine, for one. -Veteran '66-68
This is the C.P. Provider, owned by Hiballer Productions Inc.- not a fish farm! It is a crew boat not a tug boat and does not meet tug boat regulations so is operating illegally. It is also being operated by only one person which is also illegal. It has twin 360 h.p. Caterpillar diesels but only turns 34" propellers - it is meant to go fast, not tow barges. It's remarkable the barge didn't flip over or hit the beach. If running 11/2 hours of tide was intentional with an oil truck aboard such a small barge the guy should be put away before he does major damage. I would like to know how he was so lucky as to not get his tow line in the wheel!
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Tug boats have many shapes provided the after deck is clear, which is the case. "1.5 hours before the slack" is not "slack" as you presume : learn to read…
@@vincent7520 You can call any boat a Tug. This vessel is not in the true class of Tug ! It looks to be a converted pleasure craft ! Hopefully this video got to his insurance company ! It's because of fools like this that nasty things happen, then our insurance rates go up.
@@stevecarlisle3323 I hear you. Totally agree it's a bunch of fools. About the pulling boat not being a tug, I'm not so sure : it may be a Columbia River version of a tug : tugs are not a class and their shapes and performances adapt to the location and pull they are designed to. An inshore water tug is not a high sea rescue tug, etc… However, the pulling boat here has the most important feature of almost all tugs : a very clear and long afterdeck which allow them to pull from the the middle of the ship. Anyway, cheers. Have a good day or evening, depending …
@@vincent7520 Well we do have shallow draft salvage tugs, that with a skilled operator, they have towed booms, location dependent! We have dozens of areas on the BC Coast that have tides in excess of 15 knots. Operator certificates are granted on experience of navigation, area of operation and and hours accumulated in that area. Insurance coverage is also based on that criteria.
This is some really good footage of Sechelt Rapids. I'm wondering if I can use some of it in a new short video I'm putting together. I'm putting some footage together of me taking my sailboat through the rapids. At slack tide of course. What I would like to do is take a few short snippets of your awesome video and put it in my video. I want to do this so I can show how fast this rapid can really roll. Kind of hard for me to get that kind of action footage when I went through at slack tide. If you have any questions about what I'm asking for is I'd like to have a CC or CC BYSA license to your video footage.
Guys lucky rookie move. Hope he learned to wait for slack an ride it at calmer time at start of ebb/flood not run it at full rip in a under powered crew boat. At least pull up current an let it carry you through then you can use all power for steerage. Hope he brought a change of shorts.
This wasn’t much more than a pleasure boat I’ve run skiffs with more power and displacement. The loose definition between tug and a boat is what’s below the water line and power to dig in with out lossing draft . But regardless slack water is the common mistake that has doomed many of good mariners and likely won’t be the last . Thankfully these guys made it home to there families by a mere flip of a coin and dumb luck
These are not the Sechelt Rapids. sechelt is a half hour away. These are the Skookumchuk Rapids in Egmont, Pender Harbour. They are a force to be reckoned with, even the most experienced boater must take care.
Skookumchuck means “Strong Water.” Skookumchuck Narrows is an unusual geological feature. It consists of a narrow opening between the open waters of the Georgia Strait and the large Sechelt Inlet. As the tide comes in and out, water pours through this opening, creating the Sechelt Rapids. The difference in water levels between one side of the rapids and the other can exceed two metres in height. The speed of the current can exceed 30 km/hr.
An hour and a half before slack? What the hell is so important that the tug skipper couldn't wait for an hour and a half? Idiot for putting his boat and crew, customer cargo, barge and most importantly the environment in jeopardy.
Actually if you listen to the throttle of the tug and see the amount of water around this Magnifecent display of knowledge of the Chuck you may come to appreciate the term ( GETTING THE JOB ) done. `the reason....... generators were running out of gas at multiple fish farms which could have caused millions of $ to be lost due to lack of oxygen which these said gennies provide in the aqua-cultaral industry.
this is fairly common in the tugging industry. when you have the skill to to do " this " none of your arguments are going to make a dif, in the way MEN get things done , yrs have gone into perfecting the skill to pull ( pun intended ) this off.
There is zero skill there and a huge amount of shit house luck. He snapped the bridle and then loses control of his load, what we don't see is the outcome and whether he regains control of his tow.
Old slippers and captains would call them a “ Shoe Maker “ don’t ask me why I just remember the term being used along with some colorful adjectives to describe someone that can’t park a bicycle let alone a vessel . Has anyone herd this used before I’m interested if it was common old timers slang or just local phrase ? I was young green deckhand and was told to do what ever he says and don’t talk or ask questions unless asked , never step into the wheelhouse unless told rule # 1
so if i understand Peers correctly, this was an intentional maneuver which is done routinely to get this kind of barge through the rapids? looks sketchy to me, but at no time did either craft look in peril. maybe SOP?
James Brant total bs ! Not a tug and totally out of control not on purpose ! that was a total flail of and idiot risking polluting the ocean for someone’s greed ! Hope they get fined after this is shown to fisheries !
Look At the push boat videos on the Mississippi when they are stuck under bridges or the rake of a barge. That’s peril. This guy may have just gotten lucky but all in all he did make it through.
Yes he does do it every day this is his manoeuvre and it works all the time .the real problem here is to many people with ships steering wheels on there arm chairs who can all do better
That is no tug boat. It is a crew boat and does not meet tugboat regulations so is operating illegally. It is also being operated by only one person which is also illegal. It has twin 360 h.p. Caterpillar diesels but only turns 34" propellers - it is meant to go fast, not tow barges.
lol these comments. Yeah ok this is stupid and risky, but from what I saw he knew what he was doing. He clearly understands how things move in water, he needed to get the barge closer to shore to avoid that island. Every blip of the throttle serves a major purpose to get the barge where he wants it.
So, your stance is that not waiting for 90 minutes until slack tide and then having the barge and ship go completely out of control equates to someone who knows what they are doing?
@@joetheood13 Names Will not Bill first off. Secondly you're entitled to your opinion but you can still shove it up your ass just fine. Good day "Captains"
Ive Worked on tugs for 20 years. This is an absolute clown maneuver. I dont care if he does it like this every day as some other commenters have mentioned. His time is running out. Any real mariner with towing experience can see multiple reckless and incompetent things happening in this video.
Not really. A tug would have been just as scary. The problem is running the tidal rapids and not waiting for slack tide. That barge is pretty small. Under normal conditions the boat looks like it can handle the barge. You would have to be a little nuts to run that without a tow behind you. Unless you're in a jet boat or something like that. Might be fun in a kayak. Cheers
The commenting of the internet experts is hilarious. This is not a tug but a chopper!!!! First the rapid is like only one-meter-deep (4 feet), so the draft of the tug has to be less, say 0.7 meter (2 feet). The tug is totally overpowered and the propellers much to small, but what else can be done? Suggestions to use a bigger or more powerful tug means sinking it by hitting the rocky bottom, so no option! Secondly tug and barge are separated above the rapids and the barge flow free through the rapids. Thus there is no tow line to part or get sucked into the propeller. At most places the current will suck the barge around the islands and rocks, but not in this place. So the tug must push the barge further away from the camera, to avoid the rocks in front of the tug. Pushing with the bow on a constantly turning barge is impossible, so he uses the stern and reverses. That keeps the tug kind of attached to the barge and causes the tug to follow its turning. Once the barge is away from the rocks the tug waits until he is also clear of the rock and during that the barge start spinning rapidly. That is why it looks dangerous, but the tug driver knows that he has plenty of power to move away in time, which he does. So he never loses control of the tow, because he never attempted to have any. Thirdly this does not look like a typically crew boat, as it would have had more cabin space for the people - perhaps a multi-function boat, but hugely overpowered as a crew boat alone. Fourthly the rapid mostly run outward only (though I am a bit unsure about this one). The inside inlet (where the water comes from) is feed by rivers and can only drain limited through the rapids. So only for a short time (30 minutes?) during high tide the rapids comes to a partial stop. Would he go out through that time, then he must wait 12 hours to get back in. In this case he probably delivered nearby, and didn’t want to sit idle for 12 hours. So he went out as soon as possible, and back in one hour later. Fifthly the barge seems quite big and lightly loaded to me. Lots of reserve bouncy to prevent a barge fall down, when air fills the water and reduces its carrying capability. Perhaps 8 meter (25 feet) beam, that would require like 3 meter (19 feet) free fall to tip it. Also seemed like the tug driver kept the barge lengthwise through the main rapid further reducing the risk. As long as it is keep clear of rocks there is no danger. Overall I fully agree on this one: At no time did either craft look in peril.
ignorant Liz , I have sailed 40 years on schooners , freighters , and tugs as deck crew and master as well as F/Vs on that very channel and many more , she makes no sense and you are as ignorant .
No deckhand? This is a complete shit show. I wonder if they even bothered to wait for slackwater. I hope they got fined. The master should lose his license. Fenders down is a rookie mistake and that vessel doesn't even have enough hull to dig in.
It disgusts me to read these neg. comments against a Man who can safely , confidently and knowledgebly accomplish this type of every day manouver. yes every day. the reason for such attention to this particular transit is because of the fuel truck. As for myself.... just another day on the water. Koodoos Ear.
So wrongly crewed, Wrong vessel type, poorly captained, and little to no concern for environment. Yup you be disgusted and please stay out of maritime and land based traffic and you probably have extremely poor decision making ability.