Second Chance Saturn Games 

Bug 1 and 2 are definitely a call back to what Sega of Japan believed games would be like in the future, 2d with 3D backgrounds and objects

Hey man, props to you for going back to play games you didn't like and give them another chance which is something I had planed to do myself when I can start streaming again. Also your speech was at the end was great, I hope everyone hears it.

Mr.Bones was one of my favorite memories with the Saturn. I understand it’s flaws, but it’s still a guilty pleasure for me.

I really like Bug, I had it as a kid and recently picked it up again and still had a lot of fun with it. Such a shame we never got a 3D Sonic game as I actually enjoyed that one level in Sonic Jam

They should have released a Sonic game using Bug's engine around Christmas '95. It would have boosted the Saturn's sales and compete better against PSX.

Wasn’t Croc originally supposed to be a Yoshi game that Argonaut proposed to Nintendo but they turned it down? I really want Batman Forever for my ST-V board, but it never seems to appear on eBay.

I loved Croc, but it's as you say, a game of patience. At first I didn't like it for the same reason, I guess I was expecting a Sonic or Mario 64, but it's a lot more methodical in its gameplay, which I've grown more to appreciate. I usually play a few levels, take a break for a while, then come back to it. Keeps the frustration a lot more bearable. The graphics are way more impressive than I'd honestly expected, especially when the water and lava elements are introduced.

love that Saturn content! I'm in San Diego on "lockdown", watching this in between gaming today :)

Mr. Bones is my personal favorite Sega Saturn game. 🎵 What can you do on the moon? You can't even breathe on the moon 🎵

lmfao lot's of hate on Aerosmith there lol

I actually like Revolution X, but I'm an Aerosmith fan, and I never paid more than ten dollars for a home port. The arcade version is tons of fun for me, but spending $50 on a home conversion doesn't seem fair.

"A jack of all trades, a master of none... yet better, than a master of one..."

I’m so glad I found your channel. Never owned a Saturn but love the content

I loved playing Revolution X in the arcade and it was a lot of fun, reminded me of my days playing the T2 Arcade game, but man, those home ports were garbage. I played the SNES and Genesis versions but never tried the Saturn, I was quite surprised to see the massive screen cropping which should help improve the graphics but somehow made it worse. Some things should just stay in the arcade. Remember, we got this instead of something awesome like Aliens vs Predator *single tear rolls down cheek*

Segalord + SNES Drunk = awesome

That moment when Mr Bones has a scene that looks like the player select from Golden Axe

Revolution x in the arcade was awesome

I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments at the end. I haven't experienced it much with games; since they can be such a money sink, I usually look into them before buying and have a pretty good idea of what I'm getting. But I have often felt this way about movies, which I tend to enter blindly. The movies I like the least are usually ones that I had some expectation for. Expectations are the biggest killers of enjoyment. I've also found that no one ever loves something as much as I do. And on the rare occasions when I find someone who does love the same thing I do, it is often for different reasons. Trying to make someone share your love for something is usually a task doomed to disappointment. Better, then, to accept the differences and realize that things don't need to meet our expectations. Whether they be video games, our friends, or anything really.

Man, your voice is so soothing. You and Summoning Salt should do a documentary about some video game together. Might I suggest Astal? Maybe Virtua Fighter 2?

Man, you did a LOT of games in this episode. You must be quarantining.

I just wish Saturn content wasn't so expensive. And odd architecture aside, why didn't Sega make Saturn games playable on the Dreamcast?

I enjoyed Bug but SLX is spot on with his criticism. The jerky camera is a problem you have to learn to contend with and make no mistake, despite being a platformer there are sections that are more trial and error than anything else. With enough practice the entire game can be completed comfortably. For me, it was the character design and music that kept me interested.

I'm still going to try and play Mr.Bones. I like the aesthetic and it looks quite fun.

"it isn't the worthless pile of excrement I thought it was before" should be the pull quote on any re release

Mr Bones is one of my favourite games of all time. I wish that I could find an affordable copy that is still in good condition.

Mr lord in these times of self isolation. We need these uploads more than ever 😁

Your channel is awesome and definitely will help out during these crazy times. Appreciate your work bro.

We had an inexplicably wide variety of computer discs in this cd case that i guess my mom or grandma found at a yard sale years ago and croc was one of the games i tried out when i was a kid. I had a lot of fun with that game around the 2000s, its cool to see sega lord could appreciate the game more going back to it

I use to love Saturn content Untill I sold all my top tier rare valuable mint collection that was only missing panzer gragoon saga Now it feels bad man

Seeing Croc and Bug! here makes me think how the Saturn could have used some good games in the same style of Klonoa or Crash Bandicoot.

Aerosmith did have a lot of terrible radio hits, but they also had some great songs that you've probably never heard. One Way Street is a good one.

what a great idea! and i'm so glad bug! is getting some attention....

Thanks for doing this. I agree with pretty much all of your take aways... Have to admit I was surprised that you found enjoyment in Croc. Didn't see that coming... I may have to check out Spot, myself. ;)

Hi SLX! One interesting tidbit about Mega Man X3 on the Saturn is that those borders are only in the Saturn version! The SNES of course doesn't use square pixels, and while other consoles from this era had 256-wide modes, notably PlayStation on which MMX3 was also released, as well as SEGA's own Mega Drive, the Saturn for whatever reason doesn't support this screen mode, so when it came to porting this game to the Saturn, the developers decided to fill the extra screen space with border art. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night on Saturn actually has a similar problem, as the PlayStation version uses a 256-wide resolution. On Saturn, they decided to upscale all the graphics to 320 pixels wide, resulting in some strange looking visual errors.

Bug! was the first Saturn game I owned. I had it for nearly 4 months before I get more games. So I played this game a lot! I enjoyed it, and rated it a 7/10 (at the time). For me, the best Saturn games were Virtua Cop 1 and 2 (I got the combo pack for one of them), it was a blast with two light guns and a friend. Had huge replayability.

Croc is a beautiful game, but yes I agree the tank controls can certainly be a turn off to a lot of people and take some getting used to.

I didn't really think BUG was crazy difficult, I beat it when I was 12 years old. Definitely challenging, but once you get the hangs of it then you could blast through the game with minimal issue.

oh man, megaman X 3 the very first megaman game i ever played, i remember that i had a hard start with the mavericks and even longer fighting sigma because it took me several days to actually beat it which steel to me the hardest version of sigma out of all the megaman X games

I am in 40s and was happy for new things good or bad. I started with the atari back in 1984. Looking back every year was a new upgrade in games.

Your opinion on this topic is exactly how I feel about some of my favorite games! I really enjoy games that play differentlto everything else, but that are well-designed in their weirdness. Takes patience to get used to them, and even I get frustrated before I start to learn how to play, but once you do, you get uncompareable videogame experiences.

I own spot goes to hollywood in pal version. In the option, u can put the control to arcade style, which allow u to control spot in an intuitive way. I dont know if this feature is present in the us version. Also note that the game is very different from the megadrive version. Good video, and i will catch u next time😀👍

That was the saddest boomshakalocka I've ever heard. The borders for megamanx3 was just mindblowing and mario 64 set the bar and so many tried and failed even the best ones dont have the move set that makes it worth playing today.

Soon as he said he hates Aerosmith music I was sure I had suffered a n aneurysm in my language processing unit...

The coin op of Revolution X wasn't a light gun game. It used analog controls that matched the position of the cross hair relative to where your gun was pointed. The same technique was used in the Terminator 2: Judgement Day coin op as well.

that Batman music at the end 👌

I really have similar feelings towards games with an isometrical viewpoint. On the top of my head, Congo Bongo is my absolute nightmare and the only one I like despite this is Fire Pro Wrestling.

25:17 and onward will make you wanna say something along the lines of, "SEGA Lord X is better than Ninja!", "SEGA Lord X for President...Or at least President of SEGA!", or something along those lines. I seriously teared up a little when I got his "Everyone is Different" message and shouldn't be ashamed of the things I like... SEGA Lord X, Thank you...

I love the insanity of Batman Forever Arcade.

Loved the bit at the end and it's one of the reasons why I love your channel so much!! Thanks for all of the great videos

Got to disagree with you on Mr Bones and Bug but glad you found enjoyment in Batman Forever this time around!

I’m sorry you didn’t enjoy Bug. I was a kid in 95 and got it with my console and VF Remix. Enjoyed it and the sequel.

you keep me going with the sega love during this hard time the worlds going thru buddy, keep it up

Fun Fact: Michael Giacchino did the music for the Lost World game. He also does the music for the Jurassic World Movies.

Batman Forever: The Arcade Game was from Acclaim for the Sega ST-V, Sega Saturn, and Sony Playstation 1. I like the game because it has smooth parallax scrolling, okay animations, and 2 playable characters, especially with 3D models-Batman and Robin.

I would ask the developers of Croc why they thought tank controls were a good idea for a platformer, it completly killed my enjoyment of the game.

I ended up selling my copy of Final Fight Revenge. It's amusing with another player on the couch, but against the CPU it's borderline unplayable, unless having the game read your inputs and blocking everything is your idea of a good time.

Mr. Bones is a discount Jack Skellington from the Nightmare Before Christmas. I love that movie.

Urgh NBA Jam Extreme, thanks for the nightmares... BTW: GREAT to see Ninpen Manmaru in it! ;)

that penguin ninja game looks adorable

You should do a video on games that were fixed through fan patches...

Man SLX these games would have been a struggle for me to play but you got through it and man an amazing video! Nice job!

Well said. We like what we like. As a fellow critic, I've had to adjust my viewpoint over the years. While I try to steer people clear of garbage, really my opinion is only useful if others agree with me. One of the best compliments a critic can be given (IMO) is "Thanks! Now I know to do the OPPOSITE of what you recommend!" And I'm not kidding. Because if someone opinion is directly opposite of yours and they hate all the things you like and like all the things you hate, their in-depth descriptions can be incredibly useful. I myself love a lot of games that you hate, but you showed me so many games I have never heard of that I owe you an enormous debt of gratitude.

Spot Goes to Hollywood allows you to change the directional control scheme in the start menu options just FYI. i had the same reaction when i first played it trying to adjust to the d-pad being relative to spot and not the screen. fortunately they had enough foresight to let you modify it back to what feels more natural to most people. doing that took it from a game i wasn't going to play again to something much more enjoyable.

This was really interesting. It's great that you were able to see new things to appreciate about some of the games featured here, and even if your opinion didn't change with all of them, you can at least articulate why. That music at the end also has me convinced that you need to do a livestream of Batman for the NES, or possibly PCE.

Daaamn, that Mega Man X3 Saturn/PS1 soundtrack is amazing!

Mr. Bones always looked interesting. I tried it BRIEFLY as I got the same vibe from it you did initially. Its good to see it broken down more as I may not return to that one. Sometimes I enjoy those weird titles like Three Dirty Dwarves which I aquired randomly from a used mail order company (after trying it on a demo disc) and really enjoyed that one. I especially liked how you had to fight a gym building as one of the bosses. Tried Bug and Croc but like you said, neither grabbed me. If I dont get pulled in early on I lose interest. Its different when you own games during the current time and have less to play, thus are more forgiving. Despite always thinking the Clockwork Knight games looked clunky, I actually really enjoyed beating the second and playing the first one. Fun games despite some clunkiness. Shinobi Legions was another game that was a little sloppy but I enjoyed and got used back in the day. I only owned a few games for the machine. Panzer Dragon 1 and 2, Shinobi Legions, Three Dirty Dwarves, Virtua Fighter and Im not sure if there were any others. Emulation was where I really got to try it out. This was only since 2017 that I had an emulation machine that could run them. Revolution X always felt like a big repetitive mess (the shit music doesnt help, but could be overlooked if the game was good) NBA Jam games were awesome and I dont like sports at all in real life. I believe I played this 3D mess on saturn and shut it off, when playing through the NBA Jam games on all the systems.

Batman & Robin Arcade was hella fun Loved it!

Wow I remember renting spot goes to Hollywood from blockbuster . This video is like a flash back to childhood .

Absolutely Love your videos. It has emboldened me to do the same to my collection. Started playing Cyberia on Saturn and man it is a terrible but yet compelling game to just to try to get through ,even though you die 100's of times.

Interesting (in an extremely geeky way) how they used a vertical lines to create the dithered transparency effect in Cool Spot instead of a chequerboard or 'mesh'. Looks kind of cool imo.

The biggest issue for Croc for me is the tank controls. Tank controls and platforming leads to a bad time.

I do love Mr. Bones and Bug! in spite of their flaws. They just have that distinct Saturn 'feel' to them. Honestly I've given The Lost World a chance a fair amount of times, but it's never clicked with me.

After seeing NBA JAM Extreme for the first time, now I understand why the franchise died a slow death even if that wasn't the last entry.

Revolution X was on the Midway X Unit arcade board, which is the version AllGame gave the most credit to.

You deserve a medal for playing some of these games.Bug was and still is aweful.However I remember hating metal gear solid on the psone at 1st.I keep dying.It frustrated me.However I gave it time and patience.The game was brilliant.

I was always sayin' Sonic x-treme looks, feels & plays like Bug!, btw

Absolutely , today there are fewer prejudges of games. The megaman game was a good example. It was a let down back then but when you take it for what it is,its not a bad game.

I absolutely love Mr. Bones. I grew up with this game and play it all the time today

I felt the same way when it came to Realtime Associates Iron Man X-O Manowar In Heavy Metal. When I 1st played it I absolutely hated it, but after playing it again many years later I found myself actually enjoying it. It's definitely nowhere as bad as the reviews said it was. It's not great that's for sure, but it's a perfectly serviceable 2.5D action shooter/platformer that's even more enjoyable in 2 player co-op.

SLX The best RU-vidr to watch in the middle of this craziness!

Final Fight Revenge is underrated AF. Love that game, especially since it's a 3D fighter that doesn't have that Virtua Fighter heavy gravity physics

It's weird how Cool Spot's shadow is dithered but all the shadows of the items and enemies aren't

Loving the Saturn content, especially now during lockdown...

Batman Forever is a fun game. Had it for the PS and the Saturn version is an even better port.

@SegaLordX you should do a story about why NBA Jam Extreme exists, and how acclaim ended up with that license, necessitating the creation of the hang time series.

OK so I'm a recent subscriber. Holy cow dude your work rate is insane. Keep em' coming; I need something to help get me through this insanity!

Wondering the same thing. I dislike X3 anyways, but I do respect the fact that this game worked just as well on the Saturn.

Midway's digitized stuff looks so bad now

I had the ps1 back in the day and I cant remember one person having this system growing up. I didnt start seeing them until I met collectors

Great video!!! I didnt know most of these obscure games

I love the 2d games of the 3d era, especially the 2.5d! Bones, Bug, Pandemonium all so entertaining

Bro, Batman kicks ass on Saturn. Megaman X3 is also one of the best Megaman games ever. Lol. But I hear ya. I'm this way about several games people love also.

thanks for the video and the nightmares NBA Jam extreme are going to give me

yeah ur explanation of bug was spot on. i went from liking the game alot to finding it to wear my patience as well as finding it to be to difficult. they also shouldnt have made it soo easy to die in there. i also found it to get u a bit dizzy at times. this and nights into dreams used to get me really really dizzy. too me the highlights of this system were mega man 8 and X4 as well as x-men vs street fighter ( of course u needed the japanese expansion thingy).

SLX, how does Batman Forever play in player mode? Maybe some of the enemy issues might have been better managed with a second player helping? Good video. Of the titles shown I had Bug! (it was one of the near launch titles iirc) and Croc. I picked up Croc for many of the same reasons you did, to see a 3D platformer on the Saturn. I don't recall if the Saturn version supported the analog controller ( I want to say it didn't) but that aspect is just one of the differences Mario 64 had over it.

I would say those two 3D platformers looked terrible, but then I remember Bubsy 3D (I don't consider Bug a 3D platformer at all since the movement is all on rails).

Sega lord x does it again

Final Fight Revenge is similar to Street Fighter EX, but with a variety of Final Fight characters and moves.

Never heard of Ninpen Man Maru, but its smiley-face coins are from the Bonk series, right? Any relation?

New SLX video for day 6 of my quarantine. Nice!