SECRET Heritage Locomotive? 

The Central Vermont ran long hood forward

I work with these old high hoods. They're very very worn out and dare I say junk anymore. NS 5084,, 5190 5203 are ones ive operated and 5189 after its rebuild.

NS #5320 has Southern showing through. Most of them had high hoods. A rare catch of a high hood on NS. NS #5230 is a true heritage unit.

0:57 “it’s 1988” I was about to say a SD60E in 1988 wow I don’t even think the SD60E’s were even thought of

There are currently 3) former Southern high hood GP38-2 alive and well running as Conrail on the former PRSL tracks from Camden NJ south. The GP30 was styled by the same people that were designing Corvettes for Chevy. I got bit by the high hood obsession BAD. It is always great to see 1 running.

Well produced, it's amazing to still see these high hood locomotives still out working. It's neat how some of these older locomotives are starting to show remnants of their former paint, I believe there's an ex-BN cascade SD40-2 out there that's starting to almost fully show it's Burlington Northern logo underneath the patch

Some of those locomotives had two control stands in them i used to be a conductor on the Norfolk Southern.

Should have gone to the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum and got footage of Southern GP38-2 #5000, it was the first GP38-2 purchased by the Southern and is both operating and preserved in Tuxedo paint scheme.

Back in August one of my friends and I were up on the NS Chicago Line in Indiana and we saw a train that had a rare high hood SD40-2 third out. What made us even more surprised was the fact that it was online and notched up and not dead in tow. Nice catch on 5230! You hardly ever see those leading outside of yards now.

Norfolk southern Gp38-2 #5245 is still going strong and still has it's high hood when I saw it at Conway PA working the yard in August last year

1:15 he starts talking about the GP38 and in the foreground shows the GP building (Georgia Pacific hq) here in Atlanta lol

Years ago my Grandpa delivered Coal oil or Kerosene to different places in TN an NC he also delivered it to A few Southern RWY yards he told me one of the reasons for long hood fwd was in case they hit a tanker truck it was more protection which made sense.

I saw 1109 in Peachtree Corners, Norcross GA

I was going from Hawkinsville Georgia after going to m&t meats with my parents and I saw the Norfolk southern 8100 nickel plate road heritage unit leading a ns train thru Bonaire and I was amazed by it I forgot how old I was but its a great memory

Cool catch Train Norfolk Southern high Hood thank you V12 productions.

I caught 5230 in Columbia SC running with the remote control working the yard

I just looked as of December 17, and it appears that NS 5230 operates mostly around Columbia, South Carolina.

On my line, off the sterling Secondary all of the trains run Long hood forward. It’s very interesting on saying it.

We have a GP38HH in CT what is doing the same thing. CSOR 2038 has SOU and NREX on its hood

Another great video and commentary. Please keep up the good work. It strikes me as funny that the big four (not the historic Big Four, but the modern one) would even bother to paint locomotives in a "heritage" paint scheme. After all, who would notice other than railroad geeks and old folks like me (60+).

6:46 dc to ac conversion heritage unit

Somewhere in my photos is a photo taken in 92 or 93 of an unintentional CNW CGW heritage unit. Freight heading out of Proviso up what was still the Twin Cities line northwest of Chicago ( would be severed in several places northwest of Janesville Wisconsin across Wisconsin a year or two later) when for reasons probably related to making sure an oncoming commuter train would be between stations rather than coming through a station while the commuter unloaded but this gave the opportunity for some close inspection of the lead unit that by the still intact Mars light on the nose indicated a former CGW unit. As we photographed the power we began to notice the outline of the old CGW Lucky Strike herald, her original road number ( 407 IIRC ) under the paint as well her original red paint coming through on the toe kick leading into the cab and a patch on the short hood where crew jackets had worn away the CNW yellow entering the cab.

Seems to me like this would be called a "legacy" unit as opposed to a "heritage" unit....

You got me intrigued now!!

Never liked the "HI Hoods" because of the lack of forward visibility. If you want crews up front without turn around, lash up 2 GP38's together, rear to rear. And to me, they just never looked right with a "HI Hood" in the front. But, that's my opinion.

I missed the high hoods. When the track near home was still active. Used to have a local come threw to switch. Usually a GP-38dash 2. Or two of them. I still remember a few wearing their southern tuxedos. The real show was in the evening between 6-8 pm. When a coal train came threw. Usually had four or five SD40-2's. They had a small grade to deal with. When they crossed the creek. Everything in the house would vibrate.

Still see these on the NS in the Metro Detroit area.

Like the old EMD high hoods and Leslie air horns!🛤🚂

Cool train

When I hired out on NS there was still a ton of them set up for long hood lead. Everyone hated them, exhaust would run you out of them (no AC in those days).

I did not see highhood this is very cool I do want to see one

I noticed that the Southern is starting to show thru .long hood forward was done to resemble the steam locos of decades past too

At, 3:37 I know that UP Puts ditch lights only on the head end of the engine for most of their 6 axel engines and They do do it the same way for some/ most of their Geeps (GP series).

Beautiful Video!

Well done.

another great video Tim in Toronto

On the NYC, PRR, PC & Conrail the High Hood Loco's we ran as the rear and long hood forward except on yard jobs and locals that you couldn't turn them. The "F" was placed at the short hood end by the FRA for all railroads.

I love them high hoods especially in Chessie paint

I retired from the W&LE and we still had old Southern high hood GP35s. Retro to make a GP35-3. Liked running these units because the control stand was adjusted to work for both directions. Many 6 axel units aren't made to run long hood foreward. The control stand is not adjusted and eventually will cause injury to the engineers neck. The GEs are definitly not long hood friendly with the radiator grills hanging out. Good video and always loved the Southern high hoods!

great stuff as always!

Very interesting.👍😎

High hood diesels are the best. So much character to them. I wish there were more still around.

As a Minnesota railfan, I do envy all of you guys in the south, especially along Norfolk southern it has always been a dream of mine to see Norfolk southern’s southern railway lines.

Cool video. Thanks for the history lesson! One of my favorite subjects, by the way. 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤

Have a CN test weight car on the layout. A convo starter.🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲

Great Video!

Got a good photo of this unit two years back

I always run my locomotives long hood forward, i.e., in HO gauge. I used to live in McDonough, GA, before we moved to TN. Cheers from eastern TN

Running LHF is reminiscent of standard steam loco operation

The Alco RS 1/2/3, were all designed to run LHF as were some Baldwin and Fairbanks-Morse units, and dont forget, the EMD BL 1/2 could also run LHF!

I've heard both theories as to why SOU/N&W ran long hood forward long after other Class Ones had abandoned the practive. I think there's some validity to both.

Love your vids

Long Hood Forward is Not Ideal for Visibility or for Safety reasons. Yard or Switching Operations are OK but Not on Long Runs. Great video, Charlie. 👍🙏

you seriously are not getting enough credit for how well made your videos are

Hey can someone send a link to the double head steam excursion, that we in the intro?

Here on Long Island, the Long Island Railroad ran their ALCO C420s Long hood forward and they were high hoods

I Love the Hi Hoods!!! Terrific video with tons of information and theory!!! I hate the Long hood forward operations, and happy it’s not the standard!

6:37 , is that a Nathan M5? Sounds sweet!

There plans to donate other remaining highhoods ?

Question, is 5230 one of the last 2 axle units on NS's roster? Would be cool if NS repainted it back to its Southern Ry colors.

ONE OF THE REASONS FOR BI DIRECTIONAL OPERATING IS A LACK OF LOOP TRACKS OR WYES ON NARROW VALLEYS SERVING COAL MINES! THE REALLY TRUE BI DIRECTION DIESELS HAVE DUAL CONTROL STANDS AS WELL! THIS WAS ALSO POPULAR FOR COMMUTER SERVICE BEFORE CARS WERE WIRED FOR LOCOMOTIVE MULTIPLE UNIT CAPABILITIES, WHICH LED TO THE CONTROL CAB COACHES!! KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!👍👍

Another interesting video.

Awesome

Railroader here. Hate to disappoint the railfans here, but running LHF in anything absolutely 100% sucks for us crews. All of the PTC screens and IFDs are oriented for short hood operation. So running LHF means constantly turning back and forth to check your screens. If the unit has flared radiator grilles like the 70 series EMDs or even the Dash 9s and rebuilds, you’re breaking your neck and back bending down to see past them. There is a rear wall speedometer, but it does not do much justice when all of the other interfaces are for forward operation. The horn is 5 times louder and you get diesel fumes blowing into the cab through the poorly sealed doors. There are alot of reasons LHF is no longer the practical way to run and those are just a few. Ever since the introduction is the wide safety cabs, there has been no need to run LHF when it comes to safety. I know buffs love it and think it looks cool, but man I hate it. If I have the ability I’ll take the extra few moves to spin the wye and put the unit short hood forward before a trip. It just isn’t ideal anymore.

I think the CNOTP units were lettered like that by NS, I'm unsure why but the paint looks a bit new for it to just be fading through.

Very 🆒 🔥🙌🏼

From all I’ve seen the Virginian has sat in the training center and the penn central outside of it next to the old pep boys wearhouse

Yoooo I rode behind southern 2601

What kind of heritage unit dose Norfolk Southern have?

Saw him leading through Spartanburg

Nice.

Great video! Random question - Do you always wear the same shirt for your videos?

High hoods are my favorite diesels

In emd terms is flared radiator as seen on the sd80mac sd90mac sd70ace sd70ace t4 all ge widecabs and some ge standard cabs sd45 and the gevos

You just sit backwards and run using the mirror, you can far more with the small mirror than you can out of the rear window of aces or ges

The Chesapeake and Ohio power is absolutely gorgeous! 😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤

Nice train

What about 3170? 5000? Even TA&G 80?

Brother would you I like to tell how two or more locomotive work means hailing the train ?

I love high hoods

There are plenty of units like this

I think i saw that loco in a yard in Georgia

6900 that's the granite SC collision engine

5230?

Long hood forward mainly for safety! 👈

in indonesia long hood forwerd is populer

I can’t stand running long hood luckily we don’t do it much on the BNSF.

It's a cxx

I just noticed something V12 Productions, you have the same glasses as me.

Have/had some NS high hoods in my area. Have a few videos of them on my channel. Thanks for sharing 👍

When I spent my 3 weeks down there training NS 5005 GP-38-2 was the locomotive I spent most of the time practicing getting on and off moving equipment.

"Running them long hood forward, just as intended by the good Lord"

It leave Columbia?

A locomotive literally from a railroad is more of a "heritage unit" than some random Gevo slapped in a half baked rendition of that railroad's livery. All other "opinions" are wrong.

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Can’t wait to see this clips stolen and uploaded to Facebook

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