Secret Lab vs Herman Miller Aeron vs AndaSeat

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In this video, we check out the chairs from Secret Lab. You know that I'm a HUGE proponent of Herman Miller Aerons and didn't really know what gaming chairs had to offer. Can it dethrone my love for the Herman Miller Aeron? Let's get Ahnest.
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@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Please use my affiliate links to pick up these chairs - it costs you nothing, but REALLY helps this channel out!!! *Secretlab* *EARLY BLACK FRIDAY SALE 2024 - Up to $100 off* 🛒Titan Evo 2022 (All regions) - bit.ly/3Cuglnw *I recommend the 2022 version over the older version due to a flatter seatpan!* Sale Ends 9/26/24 *Herman Miller (USA)* 🛒Gaming: geni.us/EpLgIkn 🛒Non-Gaming: geni.us/0nnoU *Herman Miller (UK)* 🛒HM Non-Gaming (UK): geni.us/HXpIb *Atlas Headrest* 🛒Aeron Atlas Headrest - geni.us/LyRjXu Use code "Ahntourage" for $5 off!! *HM revoked Atlas Headrest's claim that it doesn't void warranty. From Atlas Headrest: "In our experience, when installed per our instructions, our headrest does not cause damage to the chair that would require warranty work" *Andaseat* *I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE KAISER 3 OVER THE 2* 🛒Andaseat Kaiser 3 - geni.us/jm6P Use code "AHNESTLY10" for 10% off the ENTIRE site! 🛒Rollerblade Casters - geni.us/duuh3K Other Reviews: Anda Seat Kaiser II - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Gv37hl2GWvM.html Classic vs Remastered Aeron - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QF7fuSjwVbg.html Buy a used Aeron for cheap - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x-aeDaHIEbY.html

@LukeBelanger1985 3 года назад

Thank you for the review, I used your link to purchase my own chair just now, looking forward to it.

@WitikoAmor 3 месяца назад

There's a Kaiser 4 series now. Do you mind grabbing an affiliate link for that? I think I'm gonna grab that one. I appreciate what you do brother.

@Ahnestly 3 месяца назад

@@WitikoAmor Hey! Thank you so much for the kind words and support. Link is here: geni.us/O901v I plan to check out the Kaiser 4 when they release a L version of it (since I'm not tall enough to be XL 😞) If you do decide to pick up, please let me know your thoughts!!

@Boe6 3 года назад

I think the reason almost all reviews online for the secret lab chairs are positive is due to those receiving the chair are comparing it to cheap chairs, gaming chairs, etc. Those that have actually used an aeron or comparable chair are very far from secret lab's target market.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

It's not a bad chair at all, especially if you consume a lot of media, but for back support/office work, can't compare to my Aeron!

@freedomunrestricted 3 года назад

I sit in an aeron every day at work and have one I snagged from work before they tossed it. Not impressed with them at all.

@DJFAmenHeavy 3 года назад

The Aeron is designed to keep you in an upright working position. The Secret labs is for range of movement. The Aeron has no head support which is a huge no for me.

@razorbacks9034 3 года назад

@Ahnestly , a few months ago i was looking for a review just like this video. I was deciding between titan (NAPA Leather )or the HM Embody. I ended up finding a good deal on a 2019 slightly used embody that was cheaper than the NAPA Leather Titan. I dont regret my decision, but like you said. Every review out there was positive because they compared it to cheap $100 "gaming chairs" that is horrible for posture. I dont get to fully recline in my embody like i would with the titan, but thats what my recliner is for.

@Zoranurai13 3 года назад

Also, secretlab has been removing negative reviews for a long time on basically any platform, but they are *the* brand when it comes to gaming chairs

@pleonasm545 3 года назад

"Don't know if you guys have shoes..." Nah, I sold my shoes to raise money for my Aeron.

@mangu4558 3 года назад

worth it

@elisaromero5481 3 года назад

I love that you compared the price tags to a child and half a child hahaha

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Lol finally someone who gets my humor!

@elisaromero5481 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly I get it because I currently have my first child and i feel that lol

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Shoulda gotten an Aeron instead ...hahaha jk. Best of luck...Lord knows we all need it...

@sucoom 3 года назад

how much does birth giving cost over there

@ThinkBeFree99 3 года назад

Their material looks kinda like a sock. Seems way too expensive...those cushions on the seat look so thin also.

@nofox777 3 года назад

This was one of the highest quality reviews I've seen for chairs . I got the anda seat the other day just because they look so high quality tbh.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Hey appreciate your kind words across multiple videos!! Thank you!!!

@lostremnant1140 3 года назад

The Secretlab Titan destroyed my back over the course of the last 2 years. If I was living in USA, getting a Steelcase Leap v2 or a Herman Miller Embody used was the obvious thing to do with 400€ to blow, but sadly in EU it's too hard to find those used, and even harder at a decent price. Stay away from gaming chairs, and get an Autonomous Ergo instead of those, which I'm sure is way better even without having sat in one myself.

@Mercuery 3 года назад

Nice review there, loads of info. Just tried the Titan model yesterday (again, lol), I wish that the Titan can be lowered a tad more. If I adjust the seat flat, my feet rest ok on the floor, but once it is angled back, even just a bit, for a more relax sitting posture, the front of the seat rises and I find my feet dangling. That, is holding me back from pulling the trigger on a $579 chai (yup, local currency) and having the chance of not being able to enjoy all the features. The Omega is too much a squeeze in width and lack the convenient lumbar support as well, so I am definitely targeting the Titan. I am 5"6, 163lbs btw.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Yeah I hear ya about height thing haha #shortpeople. You can always buy a footrest off of Amazon to help with that! I have one that I use since my desk is a little higher up

@gabejesusfreak7 3 года назад

Thanks for all the insight on these chairs! I'm looking to set up my work from home office and doing a lot of heavy research into what chair I want. I work in the video game industry, have a lower spine injury, and am short. I'm looking for a chair that (along with physical therapy) will help my back in the long term while I work long days at the computer, then do digital art after work at my desk, and then on top of that play video games at my desk as well XD So all your advice and opinions are incredibly helpful to someone like me looking for very specific features and needs in a desk chair :D Honestly the Aeron Remastered price tag is overwhelming but saving up for it and seeing it as an investment to not being in pain for 8 hours every day of my life seems like a worth-while goal to save up for! Especially with all of the customizability and the size A option to fit my height and weight better. All in all your videos have provided a TON of insight into getting the perfect ergonomic setup and I really appreciate your help and great quality content! Here's a like and subscribe ;D

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Hey I'm sorry to hear about the spine injury but SO cool that you work in the game industry. I recommend you try one out at a store or get one from a place with a solid return policy as you might be able to find a chair you like at half the price (Haworth, Steelcase)! Thank you for the like and sub and best of luck in your hunt and future endeavors!

@mhedden033 3 года назад

I have both. 5'6" with back problems, can sit in an aeron for 12 hours. More than 30 minutes in the omega and my back is wrecked for the day. Secret labs gave me a smaller lumbar pillow but I bought a bigger one and still have issues. I'm going to pick up a second Aeron and sell the omega.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Yeah the omega is really really firm. I only use it for media consumption or gaming sessions which are always short since I'm a dad haha

@RobertDitLeBob 3 года назад

C$ 1,534.25 way to much for a chair, there is not even a motor :)

@Mowglibaloo2 2 года назад

Agree with this analysis

@MichaelChan0308 3 года назад

Hey I don't think you would be reading my comments, but REAL thanks for your other video about how to get a Aeron chair for cheap. Originally I wanted to buy a gaming chair, then figured it is stupid, and get my eyes on an Aeron but couldn't afford a new one. Just grabbed a second hand Aeron Classic which looks quite new (without forward tilt) costing around $410 in where I live. Glad I didn't fall for GAMING/ RACING/ RGB/ WHATEVER.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

CONGRATS!!!!

@juliann1824 2 года назад

Thank you for explaining the different materials, one of the only videos that explains it well. Helped me make my decision

@Ahnestly 2 года назад

You're welcome! Hope you can use my link if you decide to purchase! Regardless, hope it helps. Also, don't go with the older SL chairs. get a titan evo 2022. Trust me.

@andrewnolan180 3 года назад

"People who wear shoes in the house - like white people!" Not offended, just amused.

@erki09 3 года назад

Americans*

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I was born in America. I’m an American.

@JarheadRus 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly so start wearing shoes in the house already. There are stereotypes to comply!)

@EvanTheBaker 3 года назад

@@erki09 White American here. Definitely do not wear shoes in the house.

@computer6800 3 года назад

Definitely one of the weirdest generalizations I've heard.

@mc-ph6ei 2 года назад

I just received a Secretlab Titan EVON Titan Leatherette in Black. The box was well padded, instructions were very clear, but what these reviews don’t mention is the formaldehyde like smell from the chair materials. I’m currently airing it out and hopefully the strong nauseating smell will disappear. Overall, the materials are sturdy, good framing, but the lumbar support looks lame. I’ll have to try it out for at least a week or two to determine if it justifies the $580 price tag. Good luck

@anthonyjamesfauni6530 3 года назад

Great review Ahnestly. Too many features on the Omega. I should have gotten the Omega Secret Lab.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words!!

@applejuicecity 3 года назад

This was super helpful, I use an Aeron at work and it kills my back...not sure if its meant for people over 6 feet tall

@Enochulator 3 года назад

Possibly the wrong size? I’m 6’2 and have used an aeron for years without issue.

@applejuicecity 3 года назад

@@Enochulator I actually ended up buying a Titan, absolutely love it. Seems like it's even helped a hip issue I had.

@ForeverMasterless 3 года назад

I have the nappa leather omega. It is indeed very nice. The lumbar is the biggest problem with it. The included pillow is very very nice and very soft, but it's not supportive. It's a better head pillow than lumbar pillow. I wound up buying a mesh lumbar thing for cars that you can just buckle onto the chair so it doesn't fall and that works pretty well.

@AbrahamLaria 3 года назад

I’m a software developer working from home. I have that exact omega and I’ve been very happy with it for almost 2 years. Now with the pandemic and being working from home I’m seating for 8 or more hours on that chair every day and I’m starting to suffer from neck and upper back pain in the shoulders area. I’m pretty sure it is because of the chair so I ordered the HM Aeron to see if I get better with it or maybe splitting my working hours between the two.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

The gaming chairs all turtle you a bit, whereas the Aeron will force you to keep your posture correct, otherwise you will feel sore from slouching. That being said, the Aeron will not "cup" your back and shoulders bc the back simply isn't high enough!

@AbrahamLaria 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly Thanks for replying to me. I can't wait to get my HM delivered.

@alexvswrld 3 года назад

How did the Aeron work out for you? I recently found a local office supply store that refurbishes HM chairs so I’m definitely gonna give them a try.

@AbrahamLaria 3 года назад

@@alexvswrld I’d pay triple the price without even thinking about it. About a week since I started using it my back pain started to get better. After a month the pain was totally gone and never came back. The chair feels amazing and super comfortable. Before buying it I was pretty sure I'll have to buy a support for my head but I found out that it was not need it at least for me. One other thing I bought was an under desk feet rest cushion and the combination of it with the chair is great. Hope it helps!

@Mowglibaloo2 2 года назад

@@AbrahamLaria would you say it cured your back pain. The Omega caused sciatica

@InfamyOrDeath-__- 3 года назад

I just bought the Joker Omega, I’m super happy with it. I much prefer the shape of the base over the Titan, I like being held in the chair with that hugged in feeling.

@crisjoshuacalucin1709 Год назад

I wan thinking of getting the same thing, how is your chair now? did you notice some tearing off over the years?

@InfamyOrDeath-__- Год назад

@@crisjoshuacalucin1709 My chair is still perfect, still looks new, so happy with this chair.

@Michael_eMki 3 года назад

Is that great? Coincidentally, for the past few weeks I've been planning to get the Titan and right now you're making a video about the Omega. Love you, lul. xD

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Haha thanks for the kind words. If you are doing mostly office work, you should look for a more ergonomic chair. If you're watching a lot of shows/movies/reading at your desk, the Secret Lab is not bad at all!

@MaestorRasanen 3 года назад

Looking for a new chair and almost went to Anda Seats Fnatic but after this? Secret Lab will get my money.

@MaestorRasanen 3 года назад

BTW ordered Titan XL Charcoal Blue today. Thanks yet again for the review! I will send the check for you if the chair is shit. XD

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Lolol let me know what you think!

@MaestorRasanen 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly If I can get a hold of a good camera I can even send you a video about it. Otherwise I can write down.

@lordbachus 3 года назад

The lumbar support on my Titan is great, is really worth the money over the Omega

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I reached out to see if they'd send one over I can test!

@undergroundsounds332 3 года назад

Just the video I was looking for

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Nice!

@captainaxlerod1297 3 года назад

Got the Titan XL, it is about to be returned. Got a used Aeron B. (I'm 6"2) p.s thanks for the buying guide

@adxm0382 3 года назад

How's the aeron for you?

@captainaxlerod1297 3 года назад

@@adxm0382 really comfortable. Although I'm getting the size C now cuz I like to sit with my legs spread wider but for normal sitting size B is perfect

@jcpt20 3 года назад

Great review. If you end up doing more chair comparisons, I’d be interested in the Steelcase Think v2. Can barely find any reviews on it, but it looks like it could be a *slightly* cheaper Steelcase option

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I emailed them and got no response. I have to buy all these chairs to review but one chair is like my entire months budget lol. I'll do my best!

@younaz 3 года назад

In case it helps you, I was very close to purchase the Steelcase Think v2 and I really wanted to because I loved how it looks, it was reasonable price for a high-quality ergonomic chair and I found very very comfortable. However I end up buying the Steelcase leap V2 because, even thought was much uglier and expensive, i did find the back support was considerably better and I belive that's quite important. So I'm superhappy having purchase the leap, but I know I would have really like the Think too. I really suggest trying both like i did.

@Sentrelink 3 года назад

15:25 I've had that chair for almost 2 years and just learnt it could do that🤦‍♂️

@sandrow2413 3 года назад

Does your chair still looks like new after 2 years ?

@Sentrelink 3 года назад

I have the standard pu leather, not the fabric. So far so good, no tears anywhere. Only thing I can see is where the pu leather becomes a tiny bit deformed around where your butt sits and a bit on the backrest. But apart from that, its pretty good. Ive just bought another omega but in the softweave fabric version

@studywitht1976 Год назад

"not only does the base model cost you a child" the one thing that has stopped me from buying one for years now.

@Ahnestly Год назад

lolol

@RecklessFables 3 года назад

If only the Aeron could recline for a nap mode. Overnight prod support kinda makes it necessary for me.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Dudeeeee. I'm still looking for the ideal nap mode/ergonomic chair. I might have found it! Review should be up in the next 2-3 weeks.

@santeenl 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly Alright loking at your channel!

@joeking433 2 года назад

The SecretLab just seems so much more secure/stable/robust than the Aeron. Seems like the Aeron would be for a thin small person.

@joeking433 2 года назад

I have a Titan and the foam is very dense. Which is good compared to my last chair that the seat bottomed out after a few months and I actually was sitting on wood.

@manofdestiny3489 3 года назад

I got a Secret Lab Omega Fabric chair for $360 on Cyber Monday. Just waiting for it to get shipped in January LOL

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Nice! And yeah they definitely seem to have long lead times!

@richard-hawley 2 года назад

Once the steel sprocket that locks the back into place gets bent slightly, it starts to give till it totally fails and the level fails to work to keep it in place. I have destroyed so many chairs through daily use. I'm tired with gaming chairs, having wrecked three high quality ones. A quality ergonomic office chair seem to beat "car racing seats", maybe they work for young-uns who have not yet developed posture issues or anything age related. What I have learned is that it would have been better to buy one Herman Miller than three disposable gaming chairs. Gaming chair construction seems fairly generic and suffer similar fail points.

@pilluche2664 3 года назад

this really informative, thought i prefered the omega but i think a titan's gonna be best (not just cus you wish you got a titan, just the different features and stuff)

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Make sure you're the right size for the Titan! I've read that it's quite large

@bassandspaceable 3 года назад

Secretlab is good if you don't feel like spending over a grand. Otherwise, if money is no issue - you always have to go with Herman Miller.

@ApexAshan 2 года назад

I learned a lot thank you

@Ahnestly 2 года назад

You’re so welcome!!! Thanks for the kind words!!

@griff3n69 3 года назад

Does the mesh dig in to your legs with shorts on? Are these ergo chairs actually worth it? I've only used like the serta highback executive style chairs. Its used for many hours at a time all day and night. Its used for at home office work during the day and gaming at night. How does the titan compare to like these high back executive ones? Whats a good budget option? Typically I buy them during big sales like $150 max.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Mesh does not dig in. Ergo chairs are DEF worth it. Think about your mattress - people spend $1,000+ because they say it's a good investment for your back...why not do the same for your back during the day? If you get a HM new, it's a 12 year warranty, which is better than bed warranties!

@joshb6470 3 года назад

just ordered a Titan (before watching this) so glad I did now that I see the Omega leg things are in the way

@SpicyDragoon 3 года назад

My Titan came yesterday, wonderful chair.

@Scarecr0wn 3 года назад

Just ordered Secret Lab Titan. The month of waiting in my old chair is going to kill me, can´t wait for it to arrive. thanks for great review!

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words! Let me know what you think!

@de20 2 года назад

Actually hilarious, I got an omega a few years back and I do sit crosslegged on it just because it feels better than a normal posture

@douchenozzlemcgee6111 3 года назад

The Titan is l e a g u e s better than the Omega. If you want to be comfortable, go Titan for room. If you want to be cradled by your chair, go Omega. Keep in mind there is a weight limit and suggested height as well.

@6xtbirk 3 года назад

Hi; great video thank you; quick question; i am 6ft and 159 lbs which one would be better for me (for lumbar support or in general) the OMEGA or TITAN? Thank you

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I think you size into the titan and I'd recommend that for the built in lumbar. You're quite a bit taller than me at 6' so omega may be too short

@6xtbirk 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly Ok great. Thank you so much for getting back to me and thank you for the video.

@NoxSicarius1 3 года назад

Anyone here have some more input on the secret lab? i'm a 5'5 140lb dude with serious back issues. Anyone around that size have the omega and back pain and notice it helps? I have a nice workpro quantum 9000 high back right now, but I found out that the dumb thing is meant for someone bigger than me. Trying to find a store I can try the herman millers in. I'd love to not spend that much, but feels like really need to for back pain

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I have an omega and have back pain. I really think if you're having back issues, you should go with an ergonomic chair. I just reviewed the Neue - that mean suit your needs better!

@NoxSicarius1 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly I saw that the other day, but the foam pad makes it a no. My current chair has one and it tends to mess with me. I don't like getting anything fabric used so I'm just trying to find a good support chair at a lower cost than 1500. Managed to try an aeron and embody at a store. The aeron worked well but wasn't all the comfortable. The embody looks far better, but the lumbar engages at a much lower point than my high arch back needs. I felt it pushing on my tail far more than my lumbar. I'd really like a chair with both comfort and support, but if I can only choose one it will have to be support. I'd easily pay the little extra for a knoll generation over the neue and I find it more comfortable than an aeron. It's just that it has less adjustability and a bit less support. Starting to look like all my choices are basically knoll generation or aeron at this point.

@no1l888 3 года назад

@ahnestly did you have the opportunity to test the new embody chair ? please i'm lost between the new embody and the new aeron

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I'm getting it mid to late January. Stay tuned!!

@icemn 3 года назад

6:40 thanks so much for this... it was my only concern and which will determine whether I need to get the Omega or Titan...

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Be warned that if you're 5ft 6 like me, the titan may be too big

@icemn 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly 5ft 9

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I think you'll be alright

@WesTheHunter Год назад

Hi, I hate my Secret Lab Titan Evo XL Here a negative review. I purchased my Titan Evo XL in January of 2022 and I've never been impressed, Its not the most uncomfortable chair I've owned but its certainly not great, I've noticed there's a "trend" among chair makers to use really cheap and really hard high density foam to prevent sag but also claim its for "Support and Spine health" but foam chairs are very uncomfortable, I've tried cushions, pillows and different positions but I've never sat down on it and gone "AAH comfy" My Titan Evo XL is way too hard and I'm more sensitive than most because I get a lot of pressure and pain in my "Man Area" the doctors have never discovered what the source of the problem for over 8 years, My biggest regret was choosing the softweave option because I thought it would be longer wearing than the Leatherette option because usually false leathers peel and look bad after only a couple of years (I've seen people posting images online of their secretlab leatherette chairs) but the softweave is really bad for smelling and is not as easily wiped down as leathers and I don't have poor hygiene it just picks up everything like a sponge and its just way too warm usually you sit on leather and it does get warm after a while but when you first sit down its usually cool but the softweave is warm as soon as you sat on it which is really unplesant it probably wouldn't be if you're a person who always feels cold but I'm a person who always feels warm, A couple weeks after I purchased the chair I realised I wasn't going to have a good time so I contacted Secretlab and they essentially told me theres nothing they can do and go away, If I don't like it then take it to be landfilled and buy another in leather, But I can't do that because I don't have money I can burn for fun £514 was a really big purchase for me. I want to get rid but but who's going to wanna buy a used chair I wouldn't and it does support me without breaking (I'm 6'3 and weigh a lot) thats my main problem height / weight but also comfort.

@buzzlit 3 года назад

I love my titanxl. I did end up getting a purple pillow cushion to sit on though for extended hours usage.

@jamyphill 3 года назад

So im guessing the secretlab won due to the price war cos you seemed torn between the two where as both chairs at full retail price the secretlab is substantially cheaper and to justify the price of a miller chair would like it to flat out beat a secretlab chair great review tho nice to see the the person actually sitting in the chair !

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Thanks for the kind words! That and the fact that the aeron can’t lounge, which is seriously amazing for reading, which I do every day for work. If it could do that, I’d recommend the aeron for sure. Also, yeah, you’re getting a new sl chair verse a used aeron and not everyone is ok with used chairs!

@chanwong942 3 года назад

Should I get a herman miller Arron that has the high adjustment broken for 300? Is it expensive to fix the high adjustment?

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Easy to fix! Run a quick search on youtube and you'll find a ton of guides. $300 is a lot for that piece to be broken though - I'd say $200!

@dabzpaintball4478 2 года назад

When In the locked position does it rock back & forth a bit ? [Secret labs chair ] / other 1

@Ahnestly 2 года назад

All chairs have a tiny give even when locked!

@afropovic 3 года назад

Be great if you made a Secret Lab vs Noble Chairs review

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Just contacted them. We'll see if they get back to me

@ETXDiscountTowing2 3 года назад

This is pretty much a secret lab review. Wanted to hear more about the Herman Miller features

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

That’s bc I have a 40 minute video on the aeron. It’s the number 1 ranked video when you search aeron. Use speakers bc I used an experimental setup and it’s awful on the ears! Cheers and best of luck!

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Here you are, sir. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x-aeDaHIEbY.html

@Seawolf159 3 года назад

What about the logitech, herman miller embody chair? Does it beat the aeron?

@crazydudejosh6678 3 года назад

People with shoes on “white people” 😂 I’m dead I say that all the time. Just bought a titan and waiting for it to come in and I’m just making sure I made the right choice lol. Thanks for the good review!

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Hahahaha ugh. white people. lol jk jk i love white people, love all people. Excited for you man!! And appreciate the kind words!

@christopherbeltran5020 3 года назад

great review too bad your not bigger since the titan pretty much fixes the lumbar support issue you had which would make it a much better chair overall other than that great review

@3meir 3 года назад

very useful review, im as tall as you, and that helped me alot

@basevers9409 3 года назад

Does a breathable mesh mean that your back can get cold, especially when there is a cold air stream?

@MarcusStarksPixels 3 года назад

Great job bro!

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Thanks man!

3 года назад

Hi, how about Herman Miller Mirra 2, I would love to see review from you. :)

@secondslate7158 3 года назад

I have the Mirra 2. Best chair I've ever owned.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

So I have personally never sat in a Mirra 2. I have heard good things though!

@secondslate7158 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly if you’re a fan of the Aeron but hate the front rubber pad digging into your legs, the Mirra is very similar. Slightly firmer seat and a more supportive back than the Aeron, it feels very much like the perfect iteration of the Aeron design.

@iloveberries95 3 года назад

Great in depth video

@user-sh8ge7gr6u 2 года назад

Just returned my secretlab, hard as shit and the lumbar doesn't rlly hit the spot that needs the most support

@Ahnestly 2 года назад

It is on the firmer side, but I personally like my seats firm. What's next on the list?

@xlride 3 года назад

What size is the Aeron you are comparing it too?

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Great question. it's a size B. All my Aerons are size B (new video dropping tonight and the Aeron I'm comparing to is a size B

@xlride 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly Thank you and I’m 5’11 and 237 pounds I don’t believe I will fit good on a b more because I like to also open my legs. I will be waiting to your upload and Tagle a look at the new vid, hope you get lots of views

@bowen704 3 года назад

Coming from a knock off dx racer type chair I ordered a chair similar to the aeron. I really hope I like it but if not I'm gonna be returning and buying a titan.

@clarkjansen2048 3 года назад

The best Herman Miller chair is the embody, not the Aeron. And they have an embody gaming chair version of it. Flat bench for a seat, no curl up

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

The gaming version is literally no different than the regular Embodies. The fabric they use on it is the Sync material I believe. That + marketing = higher price.

@clarkjansen2048 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly There are indeed differences between the original Embody and the gaming Embody. There is more/different foam in the gaming chair, there's a slight change in the surface contours to help "keep cool", and the blue accents are only available in the gaming chair. Regardless, the Embody chair (original or gaming versions) is superior to Aeron.

@reidspencer 3 года назад

where did you buy the headrest for the aeron? i cant find it in their website

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Check out my videos. I reviewed both headrests!

@Ju-ej1un 3 года назад

for a programmer who is always sit on a chair all days, which chair could be the best for me ? what do u think ??

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Aeron

@archmagus1510 3 года назад

with gaming chairs you really need to oversize.even titan xl would be great for you.but would you pay the price thou.you can get a good ergo chair these days for 500 bucks.

@EL-Sannin 3 года назад

I got the wrong size for secret lab. I bought the Titan. I wish I could change it to Omega ;(

@fuadjohnson 3 года назад

How tall are you?

@BearMetro 2 года назад

I never knew getting a chair was also a good way to get rid of all my kids.

@Ahnestly 2 года назад

HAHAHA love this

@thechilledzone5028 3 года назад

Now this is what a review is supposed to be. Finally, a review that actually shows the reviewer sitting and using the chair and not just sitting beside it talking about the loud logos and how hard or soft the materials are. Thank you.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

You just Wana see some more eye level crotch shots ;p hahahaha jk thanks for the kind words!!

@jgmrichter 3 года назад

Next level would be actually sitting behind a desk and using a mouse and keyboard. It may sound trivial but once you've had a chair that doesn't work with standard desk heights (eg backrest being too deep, or limited range between the lowest seat height and highest armrest level), it becomes a crucial thing that's missing in most reviews.

@murat_buyuk 3 года назад

Thanks for review. My Herman Miller is still rocking after almost 20 years. When I see how "often" chairs at 500 USD go bad and luck ugly after 5-7 years, I'd say I saved money. We will see how Secret Lab will hold during daily usage thru decades. I don't trust their quality level for such a long time. The design is matter of taste, and SL doesn't hit mine.

@prophecy66 3 года назад

Really good review, I like the amount of detail you put into your reviews. Wearing shoes in the house is weird haha. I'd be interested in seeing your opinions on the Haworth Fern if you're able to get one, it's the chair I use personally and I love it. I had an Aeron for a few days but sold it as it caused me severe back pain in the lumbar area.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Oh interesting. I haven't tried the Haworth Fern. I've been calling seating companies, but I don't think they need/want my help haha. Seems like office chairs are flying off the shelves

@UnhingedCanadian 3 года назад

I was wanting a new chair but couldn’t find any good review vids that went as in depth as yours.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Nice!!! I plan to do more as soon as I can get some of these fixed! Stay tuned!!

@misterpooter 3 года назад

7:10 Ladies this is what you came for.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

That’s right ladies. Take a look at 7:10. And you’ll realize you’ve coulda done worse than your current s.o/hubby :D

@yessir7004 3 года назад

LMAO

@KharaH 3 года назад

I recently heard about the Secret Lab Omega from a client. She looked so comfortable during our telehealth session. I like the tall back and many of the features. I'm one of those ergonomic rebels that sits cross-legged, so I'm happy to see this chair works for this sitting position. I also use my laptop of all places... on my lap. This makes arm rests rather annoying as they get in the way or raise my arms up in a way that isn't comfortable for me. So, are the arm rests removable? If not, do they position in such a way where they are out of the way? Maybe the tilt position?

@tombarkley7245 3 года назад

This was an awesome review! Best I've seen so far. Still on the fence about which to buy though 😂

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Thanks man! Appreciate the kind words! Let me know which you decide and what you think!

@MaddJakd 3 года назад

I'm over due for a new chair, and the Secret Labs is looking like the winner. If I was closer to my back injury I may have been more leaning towards an HM, but I need a range of motion in my command center. Plus I'm short on children to trade for and Aeron lol

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

You only get 1 back. You can technically have unlimited children though...hahaha jk jk I'm totally jk. I hope you enjoy your chair!!! The more time I spend in both chairs, the more I like both chairs and the more I wish a chair could do both!!!

@zuckerkandel 3 года назад

Hey Dan, thank you so much for the excellent chair reviews. You helped me land on an Aeron from a really great used chair store in Chantilly. This thing was manufactured in 2000 and still functions perfectly. It's crazy how high quality they are. I can't believe I've spent 15 years of my life sitting in garbage staples chairs...wearing each one out in a few years, throwing it out, and buying another. You should consider maybe doing something with that store since they have a nice assortment of high end chairs you could review. My wife liked the Aeron, but she likes to put her feet on the chair and it's not so great for that as you know. So, we got her a Haworth Zody instead. Would love to see your take on all the other options!

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Ah I would LOVE to be back in VA and collaborate with local stores!! I would love to review other chairs, but the manufacturers themselves take one look at my sub count and they're like "Nope, sorry", so thinking maybe I'd have better luck with local manufacturers.

@MauroC74 3 года назад

This was the review I was really looking for... Thanks! I was going to buy an Aeron because I wanted some serious chair but I like to sit with crossed legs and I need a headrest... I was also tempted by buying SL Omega but I also read that gaming chairs are overpriced and have a bad quality/price ratio... Unfortunately I sit for 8+ hours because of smartworking, watching tv and so on...

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Check out the review that's going to drop tonight! Meanwhile, check out my review of the Embody!

@Fa11out 3 года назад

thanks for the info. I actually ordered a secret lab titan last week. They're on backorder till the new year or something but im looking forward to it finally arriving

@officialnarcissco4533 3 года назад

Exactly the same man! RU-vid channel coming soon.

@Tuonick15 3 года назад

Could you guys share your Secretlab Referral Code please?

@Fa11out 3 года назад

@@Tuonick15 my chair actually just showed up yesterday. I don't recall getting any kind of referral code.

@Tuonick15 3 года назад

@@Fa11out I just read that you will receive an email approximately 2 weeks after delivery. So, thanks anyway :)

@MrValles10 3 года назад

Chair for my girl is arriving tomorrow :D

@Peak_Freq 3 года назад

Great comparison video! I'm 5' 10" and 195 lbs. Would you recommend a size B or C Aeron for home office gaming/streaming?

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I think you'd be happy with a B or C. Recommend you checking out both sizes before pulling the trigger!

@jfree2739 3 года назад

not sure about fabric version but definitely do not buy their PU leather/Prime PU 2.0 as it will surely peel after a year or two, there are tons of complains about secretlab chairs in my country forum hardwarezone which consists of few hundred thread pages, somehow googling doesnt show bad things about the company. going to dispose of my secretlab chair and going down to look at 2nd hand aeron based on your video guide soon

@simbastarcraft5906 3 года назад

What kind of monster would sit in a chair like this WITH SHOES ON? Have some respect people ...

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

lolol

@MaddJakd 3 года назад

👹 *raaaarr!

@notjoshp 3 года назад

High quality reviews. Keep em coming!

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Thanks Josh!!

@arcanedame3015 3 года назад

Can sit cross legged, flat wheel tops, cooling head cushion. I’m so glad I just bought this chair because that’s all I’ve ever wanted haha

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Nice!

@andyvansauter310 3 года назад

I am watching this video while sitting in the GTRACING chair at 5:32 . Just incase anyone was looking at this GTRACING chair, don't get it. Spend more money on a nicer option! 😀

@saulmoreno405 3 года назад

I have now had a Secret Lab Titan XL with the soft weave fabric for over 1yr now, I had really high hopes for it as I sit at my home desk for work for 8+hrs now and then occasionally gaming at night for a couple of hours. I still get aching on my butt due to the stiffness of the foam after sitting for a solid 3-4hrs, I thought after 1yr it would soften a little but nope, not 1 bit so I guess that's good for quality reasons. My office gets pretty warm in the summer months and this chair and I become an oven! I have use my cheap Costco mesh chair during these days. At work I had been using an Aeron for about 15yrs now and I have loved it, yes I still get tired from sitting long hours but not nearly as bad as with this Titan XL. I am unfortunately going to be shopping for an Aeron to replace this Titan XL, I really tried to love it but it just has too many negatives for my scenario. Great job with the review btw.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Ah I see, that was my thought exactly - thought the padding would soften over time! That's good to know!! I think if you're a leg curler, it takes the pressure off your bottom more, but may not be the best for back care. My softweave has handled like a champ, but it is fall weather, so will see if it holds up well in the summer time as well

@saulmoreno405 3 года назад

@@Ahnestly I will try the leg curling more, thanks for the tip.

@chikensaregood9500 8 месяцев назад

Yup after 4 hours i would get pain in my tailbone & even wake up sore I ended up getting an extra cushion “everlasting comfort” from amazon that specifically solves that problem and actually have gone more than 8 hours without 0 pain now. For the heat i have a remote controlled fan pointing directly at me so it solves that problem 😂 its hard to give these chairs a bad review because although my butt hurts after 4 hrs without the extra cushion, the firmness has been exactly the same since i bought it which is 3 years now

@brandonxchang 3 года назад

Can you review the SecretLab Titan Evo 2022! I was pretty set on getting an ergonomic chair (the Steelcase Series 1) but SecretLab seemed to focus a lot more on ergonomics… they are both around the $400 price range too

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I'm working on getting one!

@youcantbeatmyawesome 3 года назад

What a great and thorough review. Been looking for something like this. Subscribed!

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Heyyyy I appreciate that!! Thanks for the kind words!!!

@gabrielzachariah5496 3 года назад

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@Ahnestly 3 года назад

dude. this comment. I was dying laughing.

@blitzio 3 года назад

Chairman Mao 😂

@chasenthehype 3 года назад

I'll still never understand the 'racing bucket seat' trend. They aren't meant for comfort - they are meant for a car hard cornering into turns and keeping your body from flailing all over. I can't say 'gamers' would do this - even at a professional level (maybe at raging moments haha). They (these companies) basically hand you a budget chair, slap some 'gamerz' aesthetics on it, and give you a couple pillows to reverse the poor posture they create (THANK YOU for showing the c-curve issues). I do like that Secret Labs provide some nice material options and/or quality pillows - and not just store bought off the shelf types. That said, the nickel-and-diming that Herman Miller does really is bad haha.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Heyyy someone who knows that they're talking about! I will say that if you plan to watch shows or read long documents at your desk...there is nothing like the tilt back feature in these gaming chairs. I judged it too until I leaned back and I was like ok...this is pretty great. For office use though, Aeron hands down.

@EldritchAugur 3 года назад

They're popular because they fit into the underrepresented $3-500 portion of the office chair market. Proper ergonomic office chairs are usually double that at the very least and that's outside most people's price range. I have an Aeron and I love it but everybody who knows I have one thinks I'm insane for buying it. Don't blame people for buying them. Blame the chair industry for not offering better options at lower prices.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Or blame them for not watching my guide on how to get a used one for cheap! :D

@NoshAbroad 3 года назад

Racing style gaming chairs are popular because they pay a lot of money on marketing and putting them into the hands of streamers and influencers. Gamers see racing style gaming chairs as a status symbol. When they see other streamers using them (Streamers who never had to pay for them) They believe gaming chairs are the best way to announce to the world "I've arrived, I'm a streamer." They will never replace a quality Office chair like an Aeron, Embody or Cosm. Secret Labs is probably the best of the bunch but still not a winner in my eyes.

@AntiViGames 3 года назад

Yeah but the Herman Millers do come with excellent customer support and 12 year warranties.

@OneIdeaTooMany 2 года назад

Best chair review I've seen. I knew it was going to be a good comparison when I saw an aeron in the lineup. I had a lot of reservations about the other chairs after watching other reviews but I'm glad you proved me right. I think I'll stick with my aeron.

@NamTran1801 3 года назад

Great review. I'm thinking about upgrading from my cheap gaming chair to the secretlab omega. I'm also 5'6 with short legs HAHAHA and my concern with my current gaming chair is that I hate tippy toeing to game/sit at my desk even at the lowest height. I was wondering if i would have the same problem with the omega. Although you said your feet are barely flat on the floor with the omega at base height, I see that you're tippy toeing towards the second half of the review?

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I'm tippy toeing bc I think I raised the chair a bit for the vertical test! My feet are flat on it though. I recommend regardless, picking up like a foot rest bar so your thighs/knees are slightly raised instead of parallel to the ground

@Mowglibaloo2 2 года назад

@@Ahnestly definitely required with omega

@TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf 2 года назад

I have a Herman Miller but that char is not made for gaming. I am researching gaming chairs for my husband at the moment. So you prefer Secret Lab over Anda? Thanks for this video.

@Ahnestly 2 года назад

Hey! So I STRONGLY prefer the secretlab titan evo 2022 gaming chair. I have a couple sizing guides in case you need to know what size to buy! If you decide to pick one up, please consider using my links as it helps this channel a LOT!! Thank you!!

@TwoMiceOnMyBookshelf 2 года назад

@@Ahnestly Ah OK. I do not think we are in the same country so I am not sure if SecretLab is available here. Plus my husband just told me he doesn't want one until we can move to our next location. But I will come back here and use your link when that time comes. Thanks again!

@yousif8440 Год назад

Hi sorry to bother But do you recommend the Aeron for extreme studying and focus tasks ? Like 10 + hrs study daily I want something very very comfortable for very long sessions

@Ahnestly Год назад

I think the aeron is a solid choice for long sessions, but you need to know yourself. Do you move around in your chair to help you focus? Or do you just hone into your studies? If the former, you may want to go with something like HM embody, which is wider and softer all around vs rigid embody. The mesh of an Aeron will keep you cool, and if you get forward tilt, you can change up into that mode as well! If you decide to pick up, please consider using my links and let me know what you decide!!

@TheCosmicGhost 3 года назад

I dont know if other white people wear shoes inside but ive never wore shoes in my house or anyone else house as long as they were clean lol. But i also grew up with nothing but like asian freinds so yea.

@lance4454 Год назад

I have that same secretlab chair. The material and looks sold it for me. After using it for a few years I finally realize that I need something more supportive. Tired of being uncomfortable and constantly shifting around while gaming.

@tonywoz7895 3 года назад

I ordered a secret lab omega and I hated it. Ended up reselling it online at a loss just to get back some of the money. I’m not saying get the Herman Miller, but please don’t buy into the hype of the secret lab. Also they have a return policy but you have to pay for shipping. That was $150!

@Street_Fighter_ 2 года назад

Finally someone who tells the truth about racing chairs ... which without lumbar cushion give a terrible posture for the back, which unfortunately I got injured thanks to these chairs. Now im watching for a hermann miller.

@Mowglibaloo2 2 года назад

The Omega hurt my back after 1.5 years of continuous use

@Street_Fighter_ 2 года назад

@@Mowglibaloo2 yes because all the gaming chair hasnt a good lumbar support and the bundle cushion is useless and uncomfortable, think is better a cheap office chair with a good lumbar support like Herman verus or Lino Sayl

@Mowglibaloo2 2 года назад

@@Street_Fighter_ I started to use a cut pool noodle for lumbar support and foot rest. Hope to heal over the next month. It has been 4 months of pain already with omega. It does have some benefits though (arm rests, tilt function and overall build quality). I would prefer ultimate posture though. Another downside with omega is the seat is slanted on the back

@Street_Fighter_ 2 года назад

@@Mowglibaloo2 I have started going to the gym again and I feel much better when I do squats than when I am at the pc. but I use the pc with a dxracer in my free time and now I use it less. if you have to use it for work it's a big problem. you too consider training a little, maybe free body, strengthening the lumbar muscles, the abdominals, taking some walks, it is very useful. I have been at the PC a lot due to a surgical operation

@lancercool1992 3 года назад

they forgot to copy over the seat belt holes from the recaros you've dealt with over 100 herman millers and you're comparing them to this, a man must eat I guess

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I've met people who swear by their gaming chairs and have even met older programmers who have tried every chair under the sun and swear by their secret lab or gaming chair as resolving their back issues. There isn't a one size fits all. Also, I explicitly talked about how the lean back feature is so good for me personally since I read very long documents for work and leaning back is hands down the best way to do so. Do you know how many turns it takes on the tension knob on an older Aeron (non-remastered) to feel a difference in the back tilt? You'll put popeye's forearms to shame by the time you've loosened and re-tightened it when you want to sit back up!

@bradhayes4380 3 года назад

White guy here with shoes on currently resting my feet on the chair legs. PS thanks for showing crossed leg position too really would like to be able to sit like that in my chair.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I love it!

@sglatitude 3 года назад

Thing that I don’t like about Secret Lab is their gigantic logo printed on the chair. With other products, for the sake of best product I would prefer product with very very subtle company logo. Heck, my as well completely remove the company logo. Who care about company logo? What customer want is good quality product and top notch after sale support... just IMHO

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

I hear ya about the logo, but the logo is also what's kind of making them famous! Instant twitch recognition!

@AK-nc4ul 3 года назад

Got a basically brand new Herman Miller Aeron Size C from a moving company off of CraigsList for $300. Best chair I’ve ever owned.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Nice!!!!!

@ethanyoung9617 3 года назад

Hey man, loved your vid on how to buy an Aeron. Quick question, if you could buy a chair for office work for under 400 what would you pick? For context, I'm a little over 6 feet tall, I'd like something with neck support, and I sit pretty much all day. Thanks for what you do man.

@Ahnestly 3 года назад

Thanks, Ethan! I haven't really explored that segment of the market tbh, because at that price range, I tell everyone just go find a used Aeron. You can find them EASY for $400-500 - it's just a matter of finding the right/best one for the price. If you need neck support, I also did 2 videos on headrests for Aeron. I reached out to a lot of manufacturers to review their chairs and they're just not interested in sending me chairs to review. Secret Lab and Anda Seat have been exceptions.