Secret Weapon? Panzerblitz: 1944 Luftwaffe Anti-Tank Rocket

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01:24 - Why rockets?
03:46 - Cannons vs rockets
07:52 - All ze rockets
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11:55 - Fire & forget
14:53 - M 8
18:22 - Panzerblitz
20:30 - War Thunder Sponsor
20:40 - Panzerblitz
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25:01 - Panzer(...) in the field
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@flyingfish5054 3 года назад

I always appreciate the citing sources and length of these videos. It helps avoid the pitfalls of "pop history" videos. Thanks for making great content.

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

Thanks very much, very appreciated

@TheSunchaster 3 года назад

Imagine scanned documents in the video

@Paludion 3 года назад

27:55 It would be funny if absolutly everyone, from historians to casual readers to military men, from today to all the way back in 1945, had the same reaction at seeing this number of tanks destroyed.

@hanro7430 3 года назад

I dont know if this exact video will go public but if it does consider becoming a supporter as you'll enjoy a great viarity of videos early

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

Thanks Hanro!

@Yorkington 2 года назад

What do you mean by "if"?

@arbitercs 2 года назад

@@Yorkington I think this video mightve been released only for supporters then released publicly

@themodernwarfarehistorian825 3 года назад

27:59 Best moment of the entire video

@rand0mn0 3 года назад

Excellent scholarship. You have the discipline a true historiographer requires. So glad I found your channel...

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

Wow, thanks Bryce!

@deathbynewports7745 3 года назад

100% agree with you sir. The work Chris puts in to these vidoes is so good. Tho i must say i found him through Botime gaming, the videos he did with him playing warthunder. The banter and gameplay were fantastic in tho vidoes i was compelled to search for Chris's channel.

@Ok-fj4mv 3 года назад

@@MilitaryAviationHistory why is the audio so small

@ehsanzolfaghari8507 3 года назад

@@Ok-fj4mv Because you forgot to turn It up :)

@Mugdorna 3 года назад

Lucky you. So much great content. I would love to find this again.

@hlynnkeith9334 3 года назад

"Ze Rockets" "It Schrecks Panzers" LOL Easily the most amusing episode of Military Aviation History.

@cannonfodder4376 3 года назад

"And if you don't get the kill, one of your battle buddies does." Not in TBLF though, they are more dangerous to each other than the enemy. Fantastic and informative video as always Bis.

@psikogeek 3 года назад

4:42 The Death Star was "ambitious but flawed." Good thing Fritz didn't have it.

@MRKapcer13 3 года назад

"Production of these really skyrocketed..." I see what you did there

@MultiZirkon 3 года назад

Chris Linguistics Special ;-)

@danl.909 3 года назад

Were there not post-war studies of the effectiveness of Allied jabos like the Thunderbolt and the Typhoon that showed air-to-ground rockets were far less deadly to tanks than the pilots who fired them believed? I think the studies found it was due to the poor accuracy of the rockets, which required a direct hit on a Tiger or Panther in the proper weak spot for a kill. Allied pilots were apparently misled by the large explosion and cloud of dust produced by the rocket's relatively heavy explosive charge into thinking they had killed a tank when often all they had done was give the occupants headaches. Was this not also possibly true for the performance of German rockets fired from jabos?

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

Yup, the ORS reports are very good on this. It is also described very well in Gooderson's book, see the description for that. The white Panther story also comes from his book.

@benwilson6145 3 года назад

I recently read a book written by a Sergeant later 1st Lieutenant of the Black Watch on there advance after D Day through , France, Belgium, Holland and finally Germany. He describes in detail many encounters with German tanks and the ability to call on a "Taxi Rank" of rocket firing Typhoons to attack the tanks, Though not always destroyed the tanks usually pulled back as did the supporting troops, ( I image the rockets killed and injured many of them). These attacks from the Scots troops point of view were very good for morale and helping them achieve there objectives. So a tank kill is not the only measure of success.

@tinymonster9762 2 года назад

I remember reading about the (Typhoon) 60lb rocket being used against surfaced submarines. I can’t remember which aircraft was being used to attack the submarines, presumably Mosquitos or Beaufighters. If my memory is correct, they found that the explosive warhead was not required and that a solid head alone easily penetrated the pressure hull resulting in the rocket careering about the compartment causing appalling damage in addition to the catastrophic leak.

@primmakinsofis614 3 года назад

Regarding accuracy, it isn't just a question of the rocket itself, but also of the pilot. How much opportunity did aircrews have to train with the weapon system? The more experience they can get using a given weapon system in training the better they'll perform in combat with that system. Given that the Luftwaffe by late 1944 was having plenty of trouble just getting enough pilots into aircraft, I can't imagine there was much training being given to crews so they could practice using rockets (or bombs for that matter). From what I understand, there wasn't much specific training given to Allied fighter-bomber pilots in the use of bombs or rockets either --- it was mostly, "Here's the weapon, go out and use it." Procedures and tactics on how best to deliver bombs or rockets had to be learned 'on the job' so to speak. One exception to this is some of the Coastal Command anti-shipping strike squadrons, which began to specialize in their roles. Some trained specifically in the delivery of rockets in anti-shipping strikes, and consequently the results achieved improved considerably.

@gusmobile67 3 года назад

Hi, from what I understand, the training of new RAF pilots on specific types (i.e. in this case bomb or rocket Typhoons) would be thorough before posting to a front line unit. In addition, squadrons would be retired from operational duties in Europe, for a period of time, and be sent to bombing and rocket camps back in the UK. This was so that all pilots could get the latest information on both their own weapons and those of the enemy, along with undertaking flights to reinforce speeds at weapon delivery points, angles of attack, release ranges of weapons and whatever else was necessary to perform their role effectively.

@jacobakana5649 3 года назад

I love how you cycle between English and German! Ive only been learning German for a year, so I can’t quite keep up with full dialogue . I’ve watched your videos for a long time now, but I’ve never thanked you for making them in English, so thanks!

@martijn9568 3 года назад

31:27 Well, that's gotta be your best transition into a sponsored section yet Chris. xD

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

I tried 😂

@TysoniusRex 3 года назад

As much as I enjoy Chris' videos (and I really do appreciate them immensely), his ads are just the best! OK, on to the next video!

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

@BlaBla-pf8mf 3 года назад

That segue was smooth.

@anotherianp 3 года назад

I love the fact that he has a timeline for the self-promotional bit. :)

@kestrels-in-the-sky 3 года назад

I’m waiting for it to be another guy to host an episode

@spanpt 3 года назад

Chris, you do such great work! The rigor of your research and strong production values are fantastic, but I also enjoy your speculations too. Thanks!

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

Thank you. I try to avoid speculations tbh but in this case, at the end with the data I had, I felt like pointing out this conincidence (which could really be a coincidence).

@markchase5323 3 года назад

So, this makes the exploits of Bazooka Charlie in his L-4 Grasshopper, all the more exceptional with him being credited for 6 tanks.

@Page-Hendryx 3 года назад

Yeah but he was going low and slow, so it's not too much of a comparison.

@enscroggs 2 года назад

18:32 There's a game out there called Panzerblitz. It was originally published by a company called Avalon Hill (now defunct) as a Kriegsspiel-style game with a hex-grid map and hundreds of little cardboard squares representing units. Later on, the Panzerblitz rules were adapted to sandbox miniatures. As I recall (it was a long time ago and I was a little kid) it was entirely armored infantry vs armored infantry, no rocket-firing aircraft.

@supergreg72 2 года назад

I LOL’d 😂 at 4:39 when you showed a Death Star icon for the 75mm cannon. BRILLIANT!!!

@hakeemzahardi9207 3 года назад

16:02 Dont worry, even if you go full german halfway through the video, we would still watch it till the end :D

@rmod42 3 года назад

The issues with the Mk.103 on the FW-190 sounds very similar to the problems faced by the USAF when they mated a 30mm gunpod to the F-16 to replicate the utility of the A-10. It's like poetry, it rhymes...

@markbowen3638 3 года назад

Great presentation on a really interesting subject. Shows that early rocket systems whilst showing promise, were relatively ineffective in actual use. Thanks for your attention to detail Chris, and for tackling subjects that others have passed on. 🙂

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

Cheers Mark, glad you enjoyed it

@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 3 года назад

5:30 love the token attempt to cover the 262s with a few little tannenbaums. "You cannot see me thanks to these twigs!"

@kirgan1000 3 года назад

Or its the opposite, not they have a proper camoflage net over the 262 in the backgroun. So the american fotograf, lets clean the camoflage so there are only some twigs left.

@LazyLifeIFreak 3 года назад

The data indicates that firing unguided rockets at long range using the mk 1 eyeball guidance system is a very wasteful and inaccurate method of opening Soviet tanks for their strudel inspection.

@lucius6667 3 года назад

The luftflotte 6 kill claims I would hazard a guess and say it's 10% of the real total

@juslitor 3 года назад

Air force kill claims are notoriously bloated for all nations

@lucius6667 3 года назад

@@juslitor that's why I why I say it's probably 10% of that total per so many days at best if u add in multiple factors that affect the total amount

@ApriliaRacer14 3 года назад

@@lucius6667 The way you worded it originally means that six kills is only 10% of the real total which in turn means they were 60 kills.

@rlosable 3 года назад

Will you collaborate with WT and record a radio station with all your classic songs you sang for Bo?

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

The world is not ready for that. Yet.

@rlosable 3 года назад

@@MilitaryAviationHistory I think Bo secretly misses it 😆

@stoneylonesome4062 3 года назад

@@MilitaryAviationHistory Do you like Queens of the Stone Age?

@erpelschlut5092 3 года назад

18:32 "Panzerblitz" to me sounds like "Spatzenschreck" or "Kochblume"

@stevepringle2295 3 года назад

All I can add Chris is what my friend Fritz Kreitl told me about III/SG4 training with anti-tank rockets. The SS was in charge of his unit. They were assigned political officer's and one PK flew in the small compartment aft of the pilot seat filming their attack. Fritz's CO Wayvert waved his hand up and down. Which Fritz performed the motion with his FW. The PK barfed all over the compartment and zero footage of the attack.

@Jodah175 3 года назад

"a caliber of 30-37mm was the limit of what was feasible for an aircraft to carry" B-25G laughs in 75mm freedom. XD

@yuppy1967 3 года назад

Yea, but rate of fire, accuracy and recoil were not so good.

@Jodah175 3 года назад

@@yuppy1967 well yeah obviously. was more of a flippant joke than anything.

@benwilson6145 3 года назад

It was a failure. However the Mosquito with a 57 mm cannon was a success.

@Chemnitzer 2 года назад

Great film, thank you! The Panzerblitz 3, however, did not remain a paper project [21:20], prototypes were actually built and are documented by e.g. Allied reports. It was essentially a R 4/M rocket with just a shaped charge placed inside its standard warhead shell instead of a solid HE charge. Three warhead variants were proposed, and the one with liner of progressive thickness was chosen for further development; in static tests (conducted before early January 1945) it penetrated 100 mm armour plate at an angle of 60 degrees and DWM was ordered to produce prototype rockets for firing trials. Weight of the Pb 3 was just the same as the R 4/M, so both rockets should have exactly the same performances.

@dannythomson5239 3 года назад

Military Aviation and Military history visualised are two of my fave youtube channels. really fantastic research and presentation.

@F0KK3RM4N 3 года назад

I wonder if the Luftwaffe got the idea of strapping the Panzerschreks on their aircraft from a certain American pilot who had bazookas on his L-4 Grasshopper

@schwatzy6362 2 года назад

Rudel, the great Stuka pilot said that the best way to attack tanks was from behind where they were the weakest. And since they were always moving towards the "Front" the Stuka's momentum would carry you toward the friendly lines.

@steveterio8238 3 года назад

thanx a lot for one of the best video :narrative ,content , an footage i had the plaesure to see on yt !! great jobs !!

@jamesharding3459 3 года назад

I’ve read about these. Interesting stuff, but I never found any decent English sources! Thank you for this!

@victrub 3 года назад

So much good info..Carefully researched and well presented. Had me glued to the screen for an hour. Great job, Chris!

@Lykyk 3 года назад

I was thinking about and reading up on the topic a lot lately and love the timing of the video.

@oliversmith9200 2 года назад

I like the "painful intermission" duration bar graph, along with everything else here. Yes.

@deathbynewports7745 3 года назад

When i get gome from work on thursday nights i usualy chill outside with a beer for around 45 mins or so and your video is great for that time. Just to decompress and learn something. Keep up the great work my friend!

@thunderace4588 3 года назад

Thank you for researching this subject and making this informative video about it for us.

@carlmontney7916 3 года назад

Always top shelf videos here. Lots of facts and data clearly explained. Great job 👍

@MilitaryAviationHistory 3 года назад

Thank you :)

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 3 года назад

Years ago I played a board game called Panzer Blitz. I think it was made by Avalon Hill.

@adamelliott2302 3 года назад

I've got that game in a box in my closet. My Dad bought it in the late 70's. I remember playing it a few times as a kid.

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer 3 года назад

@@adamelliott2302 I think my parents threw it out. I am pretty sure I did not. If you were close by we would have to break it out and give it a go.

@somethingelse4878 3 года назад

Wow the gfx back in 1944 look as good as some PC games today

@tokencivilian8507 3 года назад

Great vids. Keep up these vids based on primary source documents. Excellent.

@frankzhang1246 3 года назад

Halfway through the video, I remembered that Bismark plays War thunder.

@scottyfox6376 3 года назад

Thank you for presenting these lesser known weapon systems.

@identifiesas65.wheresmyche95 2 года назад

7:48 - missed opportunity to say stick to their guns lol

@georgelyons9845 3 года назад

Regarding misfires. I read a story by the daughter of a survivor from the slave labour workers. This womans mother worked in a munitions factory which manufactured shells for ME 109 guns. She stated that the workers sabotaged the ammunition by filling every third shell with sand or any other substance they could get their hands on instead of propellant. It is probable this also happened with the anti tank rockets. Worth considering.

@MultiZirkon 3 года назад

George Lyons: There may also be a study that shows that war prisoners and "war prisoners" (slave labours etc) that did thing like that had a better mental health later. -- Resistance like that had an extra health benefit.

@georgelyons9845 3 года назад

@@MultiZirkon That wouldn`t surprise me. It must have been a good feeling for these poor, unfortunate "prisoners" to feel that they were doing something to defeat the Nazi`s

@richardgray7480 3 года назад

"PanzerBlitz" was the name of a table top wargame by the Avalon Hill game company of Baltimore, published in 1970. It featured company and platoon level ground combat on the Eastern Front from 1941 to 1945. Until today I didn't know that the name was based on historical ordinance. Totally cool, and thanks. Ironically, air attacks weren't included until the sequel game "Panzer Leader", which was about the western front. Fun times. Of all the games I had PanzerBlitz was one of the few I kept.

@gizmophoto3577 3 года назад

One of the first war games I purchased in the early ‘70s.

@jchrystsheigh 3 года назад

Never heard of the M8 or the Panzerblitz until today. Learning is fun!

@wolfsmith2865 3 года назад

I own a relic panzerblitz rocket. The stubby motor unit attached to the panzershreck head was originally covered by a light metal body and fins which mine is missing, but having the warhead and rocket motor is something I'm glad to own.

@georgegale6084 3 года назад

Another great video. In-depth and with great insights.

@justinhealey2408 2 года назад

Remember when this stuff was on the History channel, actually they never had anything this in depth. Great video

@donlahey1734 3 года назад

I have been interested in war history in general, and aircraft specifically for most of my life. you are by far one of the best non biased sources of historical information I have had the pleasure of what I consider to be one of the fastest tech surges in modern history!

@rodrigoquiroga8590 Год назад

Excellent video ! Congrats !!

@asthmasith8638 3 года назад

Mans really added a deathstar🤣 I love that description as well

@TheKencoffee 3 месяца назад

Hear me out, what I would love to see is an occasional episode or premiere featuring air, sea, land, and arms RU-vid experts discussing crossover weapons that may have started in one role but were adapted for another. The panzershreck and the US ciws could be examples of topics. The panel could include you, chieftain, drachenafels, and Ian McCallum. Now that would be a panel to watch!!

@trauko1388 3 года назад

Outstanding research, as always.

@jamesd3472 3 года назад

Really interesting video! I'd love to see a bit more about your study, as it looks like something like that should be one of my life goals!

@relpmat 2 года назад

Thats interesting because a lot of people including myself believed that rockets/missiles are more expensive than cannons/artillery.

@4evaavfc 3 года назад

An interesting subject. Rockets were also quite the psychological effect weapon too with that noise and all the smoke.

@battleshipfleet 3 года назад

I love it when Bis gets excited and starts speaking Deustch lol. Great video Bis!

@funmiester 3 года назад

Wow, the Brewster Buffalo, this sure is one plane that we don’t hear about, I can't wait.

@robinchiang3197 Год назад

In the 1970s Avalon Hill Game Co. published "Panzerblitz", their game of armored tactical warfare on the Eastern Front.

@robgray7019 2 года назад

Many questions about pilots: How old, recruitment, volunteers, pay, days off, food, choice of planes etc.

@robertsantamaria6857 3 года назад

Commenting because the weird segment asked me to comment. Turns out, that short segment is perfectly timed to type this. It is a win win.

@appalachnik 3 года назад

Outstanding information you can’t find just anywhere!

@wildwarhog3881 3 года назад

The transition of Chris from early Bo Time vids when he was yelling scheisse kakke to this stunning channel is really amazing. Dont get me wrong, i loved chris back then too, but this is just such a great development.

@jiyushugi1085 3 года назад

Accurate rocket firing, like accurate torpedo dropping, will be heavily influenced by the state of trim of the airplane. That is, any negative or positive G will influence the rockets' vertical path, while any slip or skid in the plane's flight path will influence the horizontal path. But unlike torpedo launching, where the pilots usually have ample time to get their plane trimmed, pilots zooming around at low level in 190s with AA coming up at them must've had more difficulty with this. It's unlikely that they could, for example, just pop over a hill, see some tanks and fire with any accuracy. Having said that, I read an account by a U.S. pilot in 'Nam who related that when they had time to line up on a target they could aim for and have their rockets go through the window of a building, so one could suppose that with practice the German pilots also got pretty good at it. Either way, firing rockets from a 190 must've been great fun! Auf in den Kampf!

@Articulate99 4 месяца назад

Always interesting, thank you.

@jacksavage4098 3 года назад

Chris its always a great day when you post a new video.👍

@MGB-learning 3 года назад

Always an outstanding video and presentation.

@brendonbewersdorf986 3 года назад

Finally this video was recommended to me you'd figure after watching military videos all day RU-vid would know my preferred recommended by now 😂

@mkvalor 3 года назад

Fantastic content, as always. Regarding the discrepancies between the numbers of fired shots vs the presumed number of carried shots --- do not forget that there very well may have been sorties flown where the full load of the weapons simply were not used. In other words, the mystery may be solved by imagining encounters where 4 of the 8 weapons were fired but the remaining 4 simply remained mounted on the planes for legitimate reasons when they returned to their airfields. Of course, there must have been some failed firings (as your data showed from the initial tests of the weapons systems). But we need not conclude that all the discrepancies in from the battle reports were due to failures.

@joshjosh6526 3 года назад

Great video, thanks for the in depth analysis. Keep them coming! Best wishes from MS, USA!

@BrockvsTV 3 года назад

Thank you fir another wonderful video

@jameslooker4791 2 года назад

One aspect of rockets verus cannons was definitely suppression of infantry. A 5% kill rate isn't bad when 10-20% also probably killed infantry and suppressed their AA fire. I'm surprised they didn't do more to try spamming Panzerschrecks onto tanks from the air simply because saturation fire is very effective against infantry.

@rogerhwerner6997 3 года назад

For at least two decades after 1942, rockets, and of course bombs, were the preferred anti-ground aircraft armament. Then in the late 1950s and early 1960s, militaries re-considered use of cannons. The 20 mm cannon had been in use since the war but auto-cannons in 25 mm and 30 mm were tried to counter improvements in tank armor. By the very late 1950s the USAF adopted various configurations of the 7.62x 51 minigun on different designations of the venerable old C-47, and by 1965 had outfitted it with miniguns under the unofficial code name Puff. By 1967, the program had advanced and under the code named Spooky, using variants of the C-47 and then larger craft, code named Spectre; C-131s armed with the Browning .30 cal machine-gun and flares. The USAF Spectre program also deployed variants of the AC-119 armed with miniguns and Vulcan 20-mm rotary cannons as well as other smaller craft. After Vietnam, the larger Lockheed AC-130 Gunship II became the modern, post-World War II origin of the term gunship in military aviation. These heavily armed aircraft used a variety of weapon systems, including 7.62 mm GAU-2/A Miniguns, 20 mm M61 Vulcan six-barrel rotary cannons, 25 mm GAU-12/U Equalizer five-barreled rotary cannons, 30 mm Mk44 Bushmaster II chain guns, 40 mm L/60 Bofors autocannons, and 105 mm M102 howitzers, and by the 1970s they had became the typical USAF standard configuration for the fixed wing gunships in situations where localized air superiority had been achieved. They have been used in the Afghan War.

@shootingwithmitch5921 2 года назад

As always another fascinating and excellent video, thankyou!

@aac7183 3 года назад

Very refreshing to hear a presentation without speculation and hyperbole

@VeraTR909 3 года назад

The sponsor suits your channel so well that the ad stuff doesn't really bother me. I might even check the game out on a rainy day ;)

@jamesharding3459 3 года назад

Just don’t try for top tier. The higher you go, the less fun it gets. And the learning curve is STEEP. I consider myself pretty decent, and I flipping well should be with over 1K hours. But I’ve still got a TON to learn and practice.

@VeraTR909 3 года назад

@@jamesharding3459 "Over 1k hours", sounds like it must be quite good ;) Thanks for the info.

@jamesharding3459 3 года назад

@@VeraTR909 I'm decent. Ever so slightly above average, according to my stats.

@Flippotycoon4583 3 года назад

Fantastic video!

@stenduginski2306 3 года назад

If you wrote a book, I would definitely read it.

@Mandioquero666 3 года назад

smooth ad transition by the end

@thomaslockard9686 3 года назад

Great video Chris. Maybe you can start a small series on aircraft weapons of the Luftwaffe. I have Wolfgang Fleisher's english translation of Air-Dropped Weapons, but it is a little thin on the munitions and fuses giving a general overview only.

@saulekaravirs6585 3 года назад

Hi Chris/M.A.H. Could you go over WW2 battle damage repair at some point? I know that the British liked to machine new parts when possible, and the 109 and I think the Spitfire had their gear designed such that wing removal and repair/replacement was easier. But other than that, what kind of damage was repaired and how. What kind of damage made a plane get written off? Were there different methods for these repairs and thresholds for these decisions based on nation and time period?

@NielMalan 3 года назад

While accuracy might be quite low, it does not mean that rockets are ineffective. Rockets are excellent at making the enemy aware that they are being shot at, which would make tank crews ineffective. I've read somewhere that old Panzer hands had a hard time convincing the new guys to stay in their tanks during rocket attacks: an abandoned tank is as much disabled as a destroyed tank.

@michaeltyl3193 3 года назад

I believe it was mention in one video from military history visualized, sadly can't remember which one it was :/

@thebigone6071 3 года назад

You’re the greatest historian of aviation in the history of the earth Chris!!!!!!

@jassdiaz9846 2 года назад

great vid ! thanks for sharing !

@airfight10 3 года назад

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@danyvarna5094 3 года назад

The preferred employment of tank busters in the mopping up of penetrations is because they targets are often spotted, channelized, already mauled and have a lower density of anti-air then does the front, the shoulders of a penetration or rear march columns. Insufficient and effectively suppresses anti-air is a necessity for low level ground attackers as the tank busters.

@kryts27 3 года назад

I get the feeling that air-to-surface rockets, slung on rails under each wing with ground attack aircraft such as the FW190 and the Hawker Typhoon, were quite devestating to soft skinned and open vehicles, such as trucks and half-tracks, due to shrapnel hazard of exploding rocket warheads to troops riding these vehicles, but were nearly useless against tanks. Probably, because the armour on a tank is not at thick on the top of the vehicle, or rear of the vehicle that large calibre autocannon (such as the HS 404) may play a more significant role in destroying armoured vehicles, if fitted to a groud attacking aircraft of WW2.

@pRahvi0 3 года назад

Lol, that reaction to the kill claims. :D

@prycenewberg3976 2 года назад

So... What you're saying is that we need to start writing books titled "The Forgotten German Wonder-Weapon: The PanzerBlitz!"? Be glad to. I'll be citing you.

@F1ghteR41 3 года назад

15:01 I think it has to be distinguished first and foremost from the Soviet RS-82/M-8 rocket, which was widely used in both air and ground role since late 1930's. Given the murky development history of the German M 8, the involvement of the SS, which used a lot of captured equipment, and similar characteristics (including initial HE-only warhead - this variant was called M-8 in Soviet service since 1942) I might suggest looking further into the German documents on the captured Soviet rocket ordnance. 29:12 And I strongly doubt that these data would be in any way, shape or form corroborated by the Soviet sources, which typically state enemy ground vehicles, arty and increasingly PzF as the main threats.

@mabbrey 3 года назад

great vid biz well done

@BELCAN57 3 года назад

"PanzerBlitz" was a board game published by Avalon Hill.

@jackthanhauser9575 3 года назад

Yeah I'm glad I found your channel!

@occhamite 3 года назад

Interesting what you say about the Stuka being optimal really only for point targets: I recall reading an account of the exploits of Hans Rudel, wherein he talks of taking out whole columns of ten or so Russian tanks in one firing pass. Perhaps it was only a few really elite and experienced pilots who could use the JU-87 efficiently in this way.