Secrets of North Korean Tanks Finally Revealed?! 

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Gaijin should add this to the game and in no time we'll have someone leaking documents

the north koreans blurred it to prevent metagaming

"I'm not sure why it called chonma 2" Sir are you familiar with leopard 2

>makes a video about a north korean leak >sponsor is warthunder absolute madlad

Can we pause for a second and appreciate the scale models on display, they look cool as hell.

"Why is it called the Chonma-2 when it has nothing in common with the Chonma series" Leopard 2, Super Hornet, and Challenger 2 & 3 all have basically nothing in common with their original ancestor besides the name too. They shared the name, and maybe some superficial characteristics, to make it seem like a cheap and easy upgrade on an existing platform, rather than an entirely new design made almost from scratch, to trick the political leadership into thinking they were getting a good deal by approving it. The political equivalent of saying "$2.99" instead of "$3," kinda. I'd guess the same thing happened with Chonma-2.

I really like how this tank looks ngl, it looks like a T-14 front the side but the front of the hull kinda looks a bit like a abrams

1:45 Even Kim Jong Un has to explain to the generals what a modern tank should look like: "There has to be protection at the front of the tank, there have to be these strange plates at the front!" 😅

RedEffect and War Thunder ads, can't remember how long these two had been together since last time lol

Ok,so who is gonna steal the military data so it can be used in WarThunder?

Kim Jong Un is probably a hard core gamer and will eventually leak the specs to Gaijin so there can be a DPRK tech tree.

1:40 Kim Jung Un going: 'You idiots. This is way too small. Look, you have to fit a couple dudes in there to operate it. And it needs to be like metal or some shit. This is wood and plastic.'

>we know the DPRK APFSDS is long, but not how long Just wait for Warthunder to put Chonma-2 in game with under-estimated performance, and someone will post the operator's manual in the WT Forums. My guess is conventional steel rod with a short tungsten tip, DPRK is unlikely to have the money for anything more extravagant than that. They might be able to make DU APFSDS due to their nuclear program but it would still cost more. More realistically, maybe someone clever with geometry can estimate the dimensions of the room to work backwards to estimate the size of the APFSDS based on how far up the wall it reaches.

They blurred it to prevent leak in WT forums

as a Turk seeing this makes me go crazy cause we couldn't produce our Altay tank since 15 years because of "engine issues"

Reminded me when the Soviets made one piece 122mm.shells for the T-44-122 prototype

I like how Kim looks genuinely intrested in millitary equipment and seems enthusiastic to try things. Most other "leaders" look bored on parades and public millitary exhibitions.

1:16 I think they’re so used to modifying the T55 and naming it the Chonma that every tank is a chonma now. Like what happened to styrofoam and kleenex.

One of the most intriguing things about these videos to me is actually that Kim is styling himself more and more as a western leader in terms of appearance recently which is really interesting

"This is APFSDS" (*Show an extremely blurred picture* 1:52 ) Me: "Yep, I definitely see the resemblance"

0:43 "We should put a grill here. To cook sausages. Doesn't have to be big, but make sure the sausages don't fly off when the tank stops."

New War Thunder Tech tree coming

My boi Kim was on that sigma tank grindset.

“I need the T-34 with enough 3D printed Bodykit to look like like a M1 Abrams” “You got it fam” “I shall call it M2020”

The North Koreans are getting smarter and improving their manufacturing skills.

Couldn’t they just be blow out panels that can be opened like a storage box? This way the tank could be loaded more easily

Hi! Whoever reads this, have a great day!

"What is this? A tank for ants?" - Kim Jong Un, presumably.

Definitely a battle map display. Great video, and the nostalgia of the WT promotion 👌 👍. Thank you

My 2 cents that nobody cares about: -Chonma 2 is probably getting its name from the design lineage of using single piece ammo and a manual loader, that's just my guess though. -Just because they're access hatches on the bustle of the turret, it doesn't mean they can't double as blow-off panels. All that blow-off panels functionally are, are slabs of metal that don't allow small caliber gunfire to compromise the ammunition in the bustle, while still being the path of least resistance in an ammo cook-off scenario. If those hatches are still paths of least resistance for an ammo detonation, they do functionally the same work, but also can facilitate the ammo replenishment, which honestly is a clever idea. The real question is whether or not Chonma 2 features blast doors as that's the more important component of the protection equation once any kind of panels or access doors are present. -not only are those single piece ammunition, but they're also semi-caseless ammunition, much like ROK Army's K1A1 or any other Western 120mm smoothbore. It really makes me curious about the dimensions of the shells they use, because it would be funny if they're as different from the Rheinmetal L44 as MG251 on Merkava is. Maybe they intend to use ROK ammo stockpiles in the event of war as they gain ground? I'm not saying that's a realistic expectation, but that's the only idea that seems remotely logical behind the decision and going against just cloning a Russian or Chinese design.

" I... I don't know exactly how to put this, sir, but are you aware of what a serious breach of security that would be? I mean, he'll see everything, he'll... he'll see the Big Board!"

This is uploaded 10 minutes ago and already someone put a sponsorblock 💀

At last, we have unlocked the mysteries of paper mache and temu brand duct tape.

Tank shares way more with Songun-ho than with Chonma-ho in my opinion, i don't know why they named it like that...

2:58 Best Korea also on its way to produce its unlicensed copy of Oto Melara 76mm gun? Or is it the Russian 76mm gun?

i always look forward too your informative videos

So all in all it does look like a modern tank, well done NK.

NOOOOOO not the War Thunder ad.

Keep up the great work!

Great videos as usual! The best youtube channel by far!

It looks like a GPS/ SATCOM antenna for a friendly force tracking system.

Does anyyone knows what Kim talking about on this video?

12:18 Kim "How far do you think this will fit?" Top Brass: *sweats nervously*

I think it's safe to say the following regarding this tank. 1) Thank the lord it's not called the Chomo. 2) NK is changing clearly and wants to upgrade everything it can and has shown it is able to do so to some amount or another. 3) NK relations to Russia is growing and Russia is cucking China in regards to NK as we saw a lot from recent interactions alone from Russia and NK and lesser with China over time. 4) This shouldn't mean to people saying NK is going to not fall or not just means it's changing, one could make the argument this could ironically speed up its decline. 5) Just because NK is upgrading doesn't mean it's going to be ready for anything in the short term let alone the long term. 6) Most people are idiots and over react and talk without thinking.

Never underestimate North Korea. Good research.

Nobody is talking about the lack of gun stability at 0:32?

I suspect that rear storage is for the ATGM launchers mounted on the sides. Edit: My meaning is spare missiles are in those containers.

Finally some new info on this tank.

When ur tank barrel wobbles like 0:30 going 3mph on a flat road you know you have a good tank.

It's just an old T-72 dressed up to look like a modern MBT.

seeing kim jong un driving one of these was bad ass

The ad makes me want to stop playing the game fir 6months so I can get all that premium stuff

Kim I so huggable

Chonma 2 is impressive it’s a modern domestically manufactured tank form a relatively small country

Very professional analysis ! Thank you !

Boy, those NORCS sure are short. And those are the ones being feed.

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Modern Chinese tanks have a similar engine to the MT 883, so that explains it

Chonma can just be something like how American love naming things "M1" or chinese/japanese "type-X"

5:35 Storage box on the turret is for a giant, wind-up key the crew turns to make the tank go.

The very impressive thing about this video is the 76 mm naval gun with autoloader. FINALLY they can stop using tank turret for that purpose. And about the new MBT, North Korea are expanding their tank factory in Kusong. That mean they will mass produce these tank for actual use instead of for parade and propaganda only like Russian Armata. Also, its name is "Cheonma", not "Cholma" like the previous tanks.

just a tiny nitpick, but that ATGM image you have posted with the phrase it was exported is a Bulsae-2, not a Bulsae-3. The Bulsae-2 is a 9K111 either a straight up copy, or a beam riding modification.

Hey, RedEffect. There’s a video online of 1 Russian kamikaze tank taking on an entire Ukrainian tank convoy including what said to be 2 tanks, 4 Kazak APC’s and 4 Marder IFV’s, coming out on top in the end. It would be nice if you could analyze what happened and how 1 tank defeated an entire convoy.

From what i can say about chonma meaning, chonma is probably goes chollima a horse with wing in korean culture but it's probably goes to the chollima movement about the rebuilding of north korea after the war and factory production increase

Do that meen we will get North Korea tanks in the Russian tree ?

So we getting this in war thunder or nah?

Looks like Soviet old tanks

we got north korean secret tank before armata :(

2:12 DPRK acting like that sorry ass blur job can’t just be reversed using Ai.

Maybe they are gonna replace the old chonmas with new tank like japan replacing type 74 with type 10 and keeping type 90

Kim better lay off the boiled dog soup.

I like how the WT add says M4A2 but it shows an M4A1

looks like dprk evolved their tank capabilities so they would no longer use these obsolete t55s

Credit where credit is due, for what it's worth, Chonma-2 seems like formidable tank.

Whenever Great Porcine Leader is inspecting military equipment giving his expert opinion, the generals always have their little note books out, studiously taking down the pearls of wisdom from Great Porcine Leader.

So united Korean tech tree?

3:17 Saddam Hussein

No one talking about the other vehicles?

Imagine if the Hermit Kingdom has magically created the best tank in the world

Chonma 2 could be a way to say is a step far of the orginal Chonma and of course the upgrades of it

It's called Chonma 2 because there's Chonma before it ...

Already more reliable than an Armata and they appear to have more

I think the engine being shown is a bit of “fuck you were have your tech, our spies are better than you” sort of thing. If it was actually being used it would be blurred you’d think.

0:58, they probably just felt like it. germans did the same with the Tigers, tiger 1 and 2 share basically nothing in common, yet they have the same name

Maybe NK will send their older tank to Russia.

Quick, get all the war thunder players in the forum.

War thunder ad on a military leaks video is pretty ironic ngl.

When you buy a tank you get a korean sitting where cameras should be

What is this a tank for ants?! It needs to be at least 3 times bigger!

It's quite interesting how the guns appear to be shaking while driving on paved flat roads, meaning they either lack a two plane stabiliser for the gun or these models didn't have them installed to be rushed out for the parade.

I’m no theorist but if estimate the distance between Kim and the ammo do some Pythagorean or any triangle formula we might have a solid guess yet don’t trust me it just a try

Koreans have nuclear programm. Even if they don't have a lot of NPPs producing it, it's still cheap, neighbours can easily help with materials and needed containment technologies are there (They actually built their actual nukes, containment technologies are hard prerequisites). So there is no doubt that DU rods are a game - once you have containment technologies, these are cheaper and easier to produce than the tungsten ones.

The thermal sights come from China, an indigenous design based from Chinese and some Russian technology. The engine is an indigenous design based on the MTU diesel engines that China received in the 1980's and 1990's. These are not 100% copies, but indigenous designs that are mostly based on the original foreign product but that utilize components that the North Koreans already have experience and which already have assembly lines for, which is why the engine looks almost identical minus some parts such as the radiator. I'm more surprised and impressed with the wheeled tank destroyer, the tracked mortar or howitzer, and the naval gun turret. Those all seemed like very well fleshed out designs that wouldn't be surprising to see a Western nation produce. I'm not sure, but there also seems to be a model of a tracked SPG that looked similar to a 2S35 Koalitsiya-SV, but due to the angle of the shot, it could have also been the tracked mortar/howitzer taken from an acute angle. Now to the "Cheonma-2". The more you think about it, the more logical it seems that it is a natural progression from the Cheonma to the tank we see today. During the early and late Cheonma modifications, the North Koreans went from cast steel turrets, to composite armor add-ons on top of the cast turret, then to experimenting with mounting ERA. All these steps would logically end in the production and engineering knowledge gained to be able to develop and build a welded turret that contains an internal pocket of composite armor, and then adding ERA to the exterior. Which leads is to the Cheonma-2. You can draw the same straight line of progress when discussing the hull and electronic capabilities of the tank.

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i think most of those are PAPER MACHE,LOOKS dangerous but some guy inside with bicycle 🤣

most people sadly still dont notice that north korea is actually a pretty big industrial power with a lot of experienced workers, sure, compared to china and the US its nothing, but for its size its pretty great, they also produce multiple military vehicles at the same time, they got a factory for trucks and apc's, they got a factory for their ICBM carriers, they got a factory for their SAM, cruise and guided missile launchers, got a factory for tanks, got a factory for IFV's, and of course the munitions, grenades, small arms, etc, i mean it just makes sense for them to have this industrial capability, they are literally the hermit kingdom and the past 60-70 years of their history have been all about self-reliance and building up their own industry and resources, and make most of, if not everything, themselves for their military, to be completely self reliant and as thus, independent, as thus it doesnt take a bright mind like einstein to figure out that they are a industrially strong nation. i hope people notice it isnt just some shithole nation because in reality it isnt, for what it is, a independent completely self-reliant nation, its doing very very well, just imagine what would happen to lets say, a country of the same size like the netherlands or maybe a bit bigger, britain or france, what would happen if they suddenly got cut off and had to survive on their own, they would face the same issues, if not worse they would have to go thru major industrial build up in order to make everything themselves, then also build up a workforce of intelligent people to become the scientists and researchers to keep up with the rest of the world in development as they cant get foreign technology, and just like north korea the chance they would go into poverty and have food issues are very high if these countries suddenly decided to cut themselves off or be cut off from the rest of the world. and no matter where you look, none of these nations i just named up have been self reliant in well over a thousand years, always surviving on trade, even when ships werent that well developed yet there were caravans from other empires and kingdoms supplying them, japan being one of the few rare cases of being self reliant during that time period, but you can see what happened as result, in the mid 1800s when they made contact with the outside the world saw a japan that was well over 200 years behind in technology and living, a time capsule the size of an entire nation, so its a huge feat north korea, especially in the modern day, is almost completely self reliant and still manages to keep up with modern technology.

North Korea has been building military equipment with massive sanctions for decades. Imagine what they will build with Russia and China supplying them with materials

I wonder what games Red Effect actually plays in his spare time.

What if Kim is the sole Warthunder player in the DPRK and is just geeking tf out