exactly. I was at a shuttle launch (#8) and I recall seeing the ignition first, then feeling it through the ground, then hearing it. nice real world confirmation of physics.
That's interesting... not something we noticed at any of our camera sites (shake/vibration before the actual sound hit)... but now I want to go back and look again with a specific eye for that. -Das
I love how you analyze every single detail, even those minor details like the camera location, the direction, something many people don't care about. Good job NSF team.
@kspaceacademy way to raise the standard for extracting as much possible info from videos! so much better than repeating elon's latest schedule estimate (or even less informed speculations)- more time on noticing actual things and thinking about them intelligently. so worthwhile and appreciated, thx.
As a kid, I followed the space program from Mercury thru Gemini & Apollo. My eldest brother sent a letter to Von Braun offering his advice on spin stabilization...and received a reply. Later, I worked for the Air Force and with some NASA engineers and technicians in my line of work with the AF. My interest in space never waned. What SpaceX is doing now is beyond amazing. The rate of their progress is astonishing. They have no equal. It is gratifying to see how much Musk and SpaceX appreciate and respect NASA and how NASA regards them in return, and how seamlessly they work together to push the bounds of the possible in space exploration. If we allow them, the things they accomplish in the coming years will be the stuff of legend.
THIS is why I am here. Just freakin fantastic, and exactly what I don't have the time to go find on my own. Love the detail, love the presentation, love the explanation...and most importantly, the dedication. Well done.
True Space & Rocket Nerds absolutely love “wringing every last bit” out of any video. Data & information is our bread & butter. Please keep on with these videos!! 🖖
I am still amazed how FREAKING WELL the hull held with all those rolls, the structural integrity is mind-blowing, concidering the thickness of the steel rings is less than 5 mm
Very well presented. I appreciate the amount of detail and the analysis. I've been watching since before Starhopper's first hop and NSF is First Class.
About your question at 23:25: In another shot of the booster you could see that some protection panels on the outside off the engines got ripped off, but not completely so they were just dangling at the bottom of the booster. And because sheetmetal is very springy those panels would be flung into the engineplume at a very consistent rate, entering them than getting burned by the engine exhaust(That would explain the color of the short flame outbursts because when metal burns it gives off an orange white color) and than exiting the plume again because of the mentioned springyness. And that cycle would repeat over and overr again. That´s my explanation at least. Greate Video! Keep it up :D
I have gone back and re-watched this a couple of times and each time the John Galloway’s enthusiasm and observations are so awesome that I have to declare this a post-launch reaction masterpiece!!! Each time I view this I catch something I missed previously. Love it!
Also, Das, there are many of us that nerd out on the camera/filming of all this, not just the rocketry. How all of this is recorded is definitely interesting!
From telemetry it is clear that there was a big lox leak, this would be consistent with the plume which is also no doubt being coloured with leaking hydraulic fluid as there would have been gallons of that on board and it doesn't take much spraying into the exhaust to produce a very bright colouration. The tiles held up pretty well all things considered, I believe the odd missing tile doesn't even cause problems for reentry, only a problem if a patch of several tiles are missing. That said there is still some work to do with the tiles and it will be interesting to see how they hold up to an actual reentry.
It’s doesn’t matter if you guys are milking it. I’m learning more and more about rockets . From how they build to launching it. Not just space x but other company’s out there. Thankyou NSF team for your knowledge and dedication to this wonderful channel. Love you all guys and gals.
Milking it? Not even sure how that's possible. It's a channel about this topic. But we aren't going to learn much from SpaceX, so it's a good thing there are channels like this.
@@NASASpaceflight I think 11 hours 52 minutes is just the right length for an NSF video. We want the full version! I mean, this is pretty good too... thanks!!!
I love that you put in all the work and effort to find these details and bring them to our attention. You may have analyzed the footage better than any SpaceX employee lol.
Yeah. NASA 2 inch bolt: $19,500. Result:cracked, used anyway. SpaceeX bolt: $75. Result: Perfect fit and still used. Cost to taxpayers on NASA bolt still going on for 40 years. Spacex bolt, recycled after inspection, still perfect. Cost to taxpayers: ZERO.
Thanks a lot for the details. Good job. Having participated in a few failure boards in me old AF satellitin' days ('70-'92), I hope you'll do a detailed presentation of SpaceX's post-op findings. You know… engineering archaeology
After exploding there's a few frames with part of the tank falling. If you watched the ground tracking stations after the explosion, they both followed something all the way down to the horizon - booster and ship separately.
Based on the angle and view the OTS is probably one of the cameras at the Orbital Tracking Station area. There are several cameras installed on poles in that area.
I think you guys, and also most of the other main spacex coverage sites is to remind people, when you are pointing stuff out (and with spacex's constant fast nonstop development of everything, even us needs occasionally forget) that starship is still prototype and development stage for the system for everything from the buildings, to launch Mount, to the booster and various starship types are almost constantly being studied and changed, in all kinds of minor and major ways
SuperHeavy / Starship launch - September. Learned a bit about the layout of Starbase and the local environs. Learned a bit more about the 1st test launch of SuperHeavy / Starship. Thanks for the analysis and lessons!
Das, you can "overanalyze" anything you want for us. Keep up the great work. We all did the same thing with the footage and we loved that you went through it with us. THANK YOU
NSF doesn’t get enough love on RU-vid for their 24/7 dedication providing us and other creators with footage. With that said- I love seeing content like this in your channel, but we’re also just grateful for the hours and work you put in that allow us to keep up with the ongoing. Thanks NSF team
Those internal cameras at 8:36 I think are: S24 engine bay S24 payload bay (looking up into the nosecone with the header tanks) Inter-stage (camera attached to top of B7) S24 CH4 tank
John don't be so self conscious, you are crushing it. From a helicopter Maintenance supervisor, all this in depth analysis is very interesting to me. I love your insights.
My 3 guesses for OTS would be either Object Tracking System, Off-The-Shelf (camera) or On the Scene/Opportunity To See (these 2 are 100% TV/Film terminology). Awesome analysis as always, love watching these.
I found the term Over The Shoulder, but I do not expect a cameraman on those locations :P If OTS is Over The Shoulder, OT 88 QD could be Over The QD. Or just the Canon EOS 88 QD camera 🤔 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-shoulder_shot
With the “sprt” from the plume at the long range view, if you look at the cosmic perspective videos, you can see that those “sprts” are the shielding on the side of the rocket flapping into the plume, and vaporizing. Timecode 23:20
I absolutely love the level of detail that SpaceX releases. I love seeing people at least a little smarter than I glean details that I would have missed.
Mr John Galloway You have a style that lifts these videos to a level beyond anything else ❤. No other can do what you do the way you do it. Love it! Please continue! 🥰
Love the work you do guys! Just an idea: maybe the tiles that fly off at 20:38 of your video are engine shields and HPU parts following the explosion at the 29-30 second mark of the flight, and not heat shield tiles. That explosion threw off quite a few shiny pieces that look quite similar to either heat shield tiles or engine shielding.
Great video, loved the “Still more engines than Booster 4” line. You missed the QD vent just before launch, happens at 34s in the original highlight video from spacex.
Das, you always do a great job and I enjoy all your analysis. I didnt realize the tiles were white underneath. Its 'uncontrollably' I believe. Thank you for all you do!
