Indeed the insane madness that was the health ‘ pandemic’ tried to break us up and divide us. Stop us being close to each other, shut down movie theatres etc. then we all sheepishly stayed home and supported the one streaming world . Just watch out the idiots don’t try and do it all again. Not going to accept the BS next time it happens. Being together in a movie theatre will others is bloody powerful stuff, when we get that taken away from us-right! 🤘
i just couldnt get behind watching movies on streaming sites and in my home, especially for movies like Dune 2. it's just not as fulfilling as watching them on the big screen like the IMAX; the sound, the atmosphere, the rumbling, the experience, the planning stage of not drinking too much water an hour before the movie so you won't get interrupted when nature calls lol.
I dont agree. The human factor has become too unpredictable. You can wind yourself up for aa movie you've been witting 25, or veen 75 years to come out and end up sitting next to a guy with severe turrets, like I just did yesterdday. A guy who's phone went off during the final scene of the movie. Lockdown taught us to fear each other. Re-upping lockdown for a second year took away all our manners and sanity. Paying more to see a better finished product wont insulate you from a dumb, diseased, abhorrent audience. The future of cinema means relocating that experience into the home, which we;re already starting to see with Apple's Vision Pro and similar prodcuts, which are actually Telescreens: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescreen
You just need to ensure that the IMAX screen you view it on is the correct format. Dune is an absolute must see in IMAX!! I’ve been fortunate enough to have the opportunity to do some work with IMAX & the 1.90:1 format is not the true / classic IMAX format. The aspect ratio of true IMAX is 1.43:1, nearly square in format, which is unique and differs from standard cinema formats. This shape and size enable directors to use the space creatively and in a way that cannot be replicated in a regular theatre or home viewing context. It also allows films shot in the IMAX format to be displayed with significantly higher resolution than standard projection systems. True IMAX theatres have a distinctive screen that extends to the edges of your peripheral vision, creating an immersive experience unlike any other. The seating arrangement is steep to ensure that all viewers have an unobstructed view of the screen. These screens can reach a size of up to 72 feet high and 98 feet wide, which is almost like watching a film on the side of a seven-story building. The classic or ‘True IMAX’ also uses a 70mm film format, the largest in practical use. With IMAX format, each frame is 15 perforations wide, and the area of the frame is about 52mm high by 70mm wide - almost 9 times larger than the conventional 35mm frame used in traditional movie theaters. This full frame IMAX format produces images up to 18k resolution, far superior to the images seen in most digital cinemas. On the other hand, Digital IMAX, or what some have taken to calling ‘Fake IMAX,’ was introduced as a more cost-effective alternative to the traditional 70mm projection system. These theatres use two 2K resolution digital projectors with proprietary IMAX post-production techniques to enhance the image quality. The screens are smaller, typically 28 feet high and 58 feet wide, which is much smaller than a True IMAX screen but still larger than a standard theatre screen. The aspect ratio of Digital IMAX is 1.90:1, which, while it offers more height than standard theatres, does not quite match up to the traditional IMAX ratio. Digital IMAX systems also utilize a different sound system and can offer a great auditory experience but fall short of True IMAX’s patented sound technology which delivers laser-aligned digital sound. Digital IMAX theatres were introduced primarily due to the lower installation and operation costs compared to True IMAX. They can fit into traditional multiplex theatres without major structural modifications, making them an attractive option for many theatre owners. While they don’t deliver the same level of immersion as True IMAX, they still provide a superior viewing experience compared to regular screens, making it a ‘better than standard’ option for many viewers. Here in the UK we have only three ‘True IMAX’ screens with the correct 1.43:1 format; those being The National Media Museum in Bradford (interestingly the first IMAX location in the UK when it opened in the 1980s), The Printworks in Manchester & finally The Science Museum in London. Even the British Film Institute doesn’t run the true IMAX format screen!!
Can someone explain to me. Dune 2 was shot using Arri LF. Not IMAX camera. Why is this not a lie max? Yes you see more top and bottom, but not cause it was shot on IMAX but cause of open gate in arri. In theory they could have shown in regular theatre. I also understand that this was digital transfer to film stock to get the film look and halation. I still don’t understand why people need to see this in true IMAX? This isn’t Oppenheimer where the actual footage was shot on IMAX camera. Can someone explain to me?
@@zoneVgroup Great question, and this is worth a whole video in itself. So this is how I see it: Original 'True' IMAX = Shot on 15/70MM FILM IMAX, this is the highest quality image ever divised, and also the largest FOV per focal length as the IMAX film frame is larger than any digital sensor out there Digital 'IMAX' = A newer terminology, deriving from digital cameras that the IMAX corporation deem to be 'IMAX worthy'. These are classified as any "Large Format" camera sensors, that ultimately film in a 1.43:1 aspect or 'Opengate' Ratio. They get quite close to the relative field of view a 15 perf 70MM IMAX filmstock would get, but not to the relative quality. You ultimately get more field of view hitting the sensor versus regular 16 by 9 full frame sensor, and even more so than a Super 35 or APS-C sensor Lie-Max = Now this is where it gets hotly debated, however, I see as like so... "Lie-max" is marketing terminology used to generalise an expanded aspect ratio viewing experience. I.e; a film shot digitally frame at 2.35:1 in most theatres, but having a "16 by 9" aspect ratio in select theatres. This is by far, furthest from the IMAX experience, and yes... you do see more, but it does tarnish the IMAX true name in my opinion. However, alluded to in this video, IMAX film and if the company solely relied on it, would not be a successful business today. Hence exploring the opportunities elsewhere. In short, TRUE, original IMAX is shot on 15/70 and projected that way. Digital 'IMAX' is shot on digital large format sensors, that do provide a closer to FOV as IMAX 15perf, a similar format look too, but lacks the resolution and film quality. Lie-max... really just limited to an 'expanded aspect ratio' Worth seeing Dune in IMAX, for the 1.43:1 sequences, it still makes a visual difference despite not being shot on film.
@roup I think this movie is best in 1.43:1 because as you said there will be more top and bottom but I don't think IMAX70 or IMAX Dual Laser projection is that important. Since it's a digital-to-analog conversion, I think the max resolution is still topped at 4k, unlike Nolans's films which theoretically can be up to 18K.
JUST TWELVE??? WOW. I saw it at the Metreon last Sunday. I have never seen anything as immersive as I did with Dune Part Two in 15/70. This sets the bar in film making and I hope that more talented directors are given the freedom by the studios to make more epic films like Dune.
If you’re talking about the fan preview screening, I don’t believe that was 1570 at any AMC. They’ve been showing Tenet in 70mm IMAX, so it’s not like you can swap in another movie. It was still full-frame 1.43:1, and I agree that it was immersive experience. I’m going back to see it on 70mm film to see the difference.
Super lucky to see it in 70mm Imax here in Arizona. Super surprised we even have this screen here but im very grateful for that. Saw Oppenheimer in 70mm IMAX and cant wait for Dune Part 2
Participating Dune: Part Two IMAX 70mm Film Theatres: UNITED STATES Harkins Arizona Mills 25 & IMAX - Tempe, AZ (opens in new window) AMC Metreon 16 & IMAX - San Francisco, CA (opens in new window) Regal Edwards Irvine Spectrum & IMAX - Irvine, CA(opens in new window) TCL Chinese Theatres IMAX - Hollywood, CA(opens in new window) Universal Cinema AMC at CityWalk Hollywood & IMAX - Universal City, CA(opens in new window) IMAX, Indiana State Museum - Indianapolis, IN(opens in new window) AMC Lincoln Square 13 & IMAX - New York, NY(opens in new window) Regal UA King of Prussia & IMAX - King of Prussia, PA (opens in new window) Regal Opry Mills & IMAX - Nashville, TN(opens in new window) CANADA Cineplex Cinemas Vaughan & IMAX - Ontario, Canada(opens in new window) UNITED KINGDOM BFI IMAX, British Film Institute - London, UK(opens in new window) AUSTRALIA IMAX, Melbourne Museum - Melbourne, Australia
Saw Dune 2 in 70mm at this very IMAX theatre yesterday, lucky to live in Melbourne! It was an incredible experience, the screen takes up your whole field of view and the bass shakes the seats, you could almost feel 'The Voice' going through you, amazing.
But it was filmed digitally .., so the 70mm is just a copy wich doesn’t make sense in my opinion .. I saw the 2019 40Y anniversary of Apocalypse Now wich was shot on Film in 35mm and 70mm and they used the original negative to creat a native True 4K scan wich they showed in theaters and it was mind blowing ! The details where phenomenal ! I saw last weekend At the same screen Dune 2 and it was meh … it looked good but no comparison to the Apocalypse Now film from 2019 ! I also have at home a true 4K disc from Alien and it to looks so much better than Dune 2 that I think why are they doing this ? Seeing that they shot digital and than it just gets transferred on a film seems like a scam to me
exactly, it's better to keep it digital, that way it doesn't lose quality, if it's filmed digitally there's no point in all the manual work, it was just putting it on the hard drive and that's it, but I think the point is to avoid piracy, since no one In addition to cinemas, there are players, if you use a hard drive, someone can copy it and in 1 day it will be out in high resolution on piracy sites.@@Harrock
@@JCproTTI believe my man was pointing out that because the 2019 _Apocalypse Now_ was sourced at least in part from 70mm film, it managed to provide the kind of "wow" factor that IMAX has been traditionally associated with, whereas _Dune Part Two_ did not. It _was_ filmed "digitally", but unfortunately, the cameras they used cap out at roughly 35mm of effective detail. If one had the opportunity to compare _Dune Part Two_ directly against _Apocalypse Now_ or any other true 70mm presentation, the former would come up very lacking, because it possesses only about 1/10th of the resolution. Eventually, there will be digital cameras capable of nonchalantly filming 18K by 12K and this whole discussion will be moot. But in the meantime, unfortunately they chose to film with cameras that can't do better than 35mm, and that opens them up to this kind of criticism. I personally wonder whether they tried AI upscaling the footage so at least some of the potential of the 70mm prints could have been filled out. But I'm leaning towards: no. Because that would have taken a lot of time and would have required some close scrutiny, just for a dozen prints. Anyway, the guy was questioning the legitimacy of porting a ~35mm production over to 70mm and pretending like it's actually 70mm. That's completely fair. In IMAX's defense, the end result is still better than the comparatively miserable resolution of 4K projectors.
@@parabelli as close as you can to the middle I think, but if the middle isn't available try further back rather than closer. The screen is so big that the closer seats make you crane your neck to be able to see it lol
I live in Boston and had to go all the way out to Providence, Rhode Island to see “Oppenheimer” in IMAX70mm. It was totally worth it. I will do it again for Dune.
Saw Dune at AMC Metreon in San Francisco. The theatre was packed….at 6am. Just goes to show there is an audience out there who is hungry for this type of cinema. Let’s hope this opens a path forward for fellow filmmakers to try the same!
🤣 i just bought my ticket to watch metreon, 3 weeks from now because all imax show times are sold out until then. I got my seat right in the middle with my buddies
I really hope more true IMAX screens will get built around the world. In Los Angeles, there’s a theater that still has its IMAX-sized screen but ended their licensing with IMAX, which is mind-blowing to me. Instead they show their own large screen format. I asked the manager if they could make it an IMAX screen again, and she said there aren’t enough 1.43 films to make it profitable and they currently don’t have a film projector. Seems like they’re leaving a lot of money on the table, especially with Oppie and D2.
Me too mate. Well said. My goal with these videos is to drive more awareness to the format. A small contribution to the big scope that is the cinema world, but hoping it makes a difference to encourage more to open up around the world
Sadly it is highly unlikely. With more and more streaming service market size, it is pointless to have many cinemas, not even talking about imax, which is not good for the average cinema movies, only the premium ones that are not as common.
According to the IMAX website, here are the 12 locations showing Dune: Part Two in IMAX 70mm: U.S. Harkins Arizona Mills 25 & IMAX - Tempe, Arizona AMC Metreon 16 & IMAX - San Francisco, Regal Edwards Irvine Spectrum & IMAX - Irvine, California TCL Chinese Theatres IMAX - Hollywood, California Universal Cinema AMC at CityWalk Hollywood & IMAX - Universal City, California IMAX, Indiana State Museum - Indianapolis AMC Lincoln Square 13 & IMAX - New York Regal UA King of Prussia & IMAX - King of Prussia, Pennsylvania Regal Opry Mills & IMAX - Nashville, Tennessee CANADA Cineplex Cinemas Vaughan & IMAX - Ontario, Canada UNITED KINGDOM BFI IMAX, British Film Institute - London AUSTRALIA IMAX, Melbourne Museum - Melbourne
@@DesignedbyKirk if I’m going to see Dune 2 and want a fully immersive experience would you recommend taking the jump to front row seats? Will I leave with a sore neck? Haha
There's no reason to project a movie made digitally on film. If that screen has an IMAX digital projector, projecting Dune 2 on film is just a gimmick because the digital cameras used in making the film were no more resolution than that projector..
The Kramer IMAX Theatre in Regina Canada still uses 15/70mm film. It had a very successful run of “Oppenheimer” last year, but ran “Dune”, Pt. 2 in laser digital.
For some reason the imax theater near me was one of only 30 theaters playing opppenheimer on 15 70 but now they’re showing dune digitally instead? They were the 30 for Oppenheimer but not in the 12 for dune. I’m still seeing it digitally but it was mildly disappointing when I learned that
I saw this at IMAX Melbourne. It was exceptional. I preferred Laser. The sound had more channels and had more contrast. The quality wasnt as good as Nolan IMAX films as the digital intermedate is a 4k digital file. Then transferred onto 1570. This tends to be forgotten by many folk leaving comments. But the audio and overall presentation was stellar. Nothing beats shot in 15/70 then projected in 15/70
@@DesignedbyKirk also agreed here. What did you think of the shots Denis opted to shoot in 1.43? I was personally disappointed and thought he made poor choices when changing aspect ratio. The big action set pieces or the best looking shots weren't in 1.43, instead a bowl of porridge or a very quick few frames zoomed in of Paul's face were in 1.43. The amount of switches was jarring. It's better to reserve the 1.43 for the big set pieces like No Time to Die/Batman v Superman/Force Awakens in my opinion.
Another great and super informative video mate! I have to go and check it out next time i'm in Melbourne :) Dune Part Two would be the ultimate experience!
It was so amazing to be at the early fan screening seeing Dune: Part Two front and center, just absolutely life changing of an experience. It was well worth the largest screen possible
@@Foxtrot5 unfortunately I didn't but I was able to finally see it at a Cineworld Imax. I saw Interstellar is re-releasing again later this year so aiming to get a ticket for that hopefully
I saw Oppenheimer at West Edmonton Mall in IMAX 70mm was an amazing experience! Was disappointed (and jealous) we didn't get a Dune screening in 70mm film again but the IMAX digital was still a great experience.
I fly from where ever I am in Australia to watch 1570 mm films at Melbourne IMAX. I love the format and how they’ve kept film alive in a world that has become so digital. 4K laser 3D is also the best at IMAX too
Oh what a shame... I'm hoping videos like mine are able to increase awareness to the format and encourage more theatres to be built to service it. Hope you can find a cinema somehow or travel a bit to see it in IMAX
i bought Dune 3D on Blu-Ray and i saw it in 3D in cinema. But now i only see 2D versions from the second part. Did they really skipped the 3D production, or will it be delivered later. as a movie which is not shot in real 3D i can imagine that it is more cost effective...but it would be really a shame to have only half the movie in 3D ..especially after the first movie was very successful.
My first time at the Melbourne IMAX was for Dune Part 1. It was near the front. It was a trade off of maximum immersion for quite a bit of neck pain haha. Worth it though. That viewing turned IMAX Melbourne into my designated movie cinema. Already booked in to see Part 2 three times on 1570 film, for the limited edition collectible filmstrips!
I am so lucky to like close to one of the few IMAX locations with a film projector. It's such a treat to be able to see these special movies in such a format
I saw that movie like 1 week ago in Leonberg, Germany and I must say it was really crazy. If you are ever there check that cinema out, especially because the seats are really really good.
Yes, YES, YEEEEES, its the SECOND largest in the world because, YESTERDAY i was in LEONBERG and saw DUNE 2 on the LAAAAAARGEST in the WOOOORLD!! MUAHAHAHAHA!!! (evil but pathetic laugh) MUAHAHAHAH MUAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😀) and it was AMAAAAAAAAZING!!! 😀
I am lucky to live in San Francisco and was able to watch it in 70mm IMAX and it is definitely worth the hype. Denis took advantage of every inch of that massive format to showcase EPIC scenes. I already bought tickets to watch it again! 😅 👍
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the image quality of projection is terrible, the contrast between black and white is terrible and the color accuracy is horrible. A decent 4K TV will beat an imax projector in every benchmark. When movie theaters go extinct nothing of value will be lost.
Crazy never thought that Film were still a thing in theaters. Saw Dune Part 2 today, in an IMAX probably not true IMAX but the bass and all was crazy never felt so much and so strong bass. At one scene, not mentioning wichone, the bass was so strong it felt like the atmospheric pressure increased and I felt my eardrums move with it, never have I ever felt something likes this. It wasn't just vibration but realy like the feeling you get when you go up a mountain or into a tunnel. IMAX is just crazy.
Yesterday, I went to the 3 o'clock showing of Dune at the King of Prussia theater. First, the movie started with sound only. It went for about 5 minutes before they restarted and everything seemed fine. However, it was clear after about 5 minutes or so that sound from the rear surround speakers was still playing the audio from a point further along into the movie. It obscured dialogue at times and became a spoiler of sorts. A bunch of us walked out and were told after about 15-20 minutes that it was fixed but they weren't going to restart it. I got a refund but that's all they offered. I booked new tickets but have to wait until March 12th now.
Dual laser is better if you have that option the contrast and sharpness is much more obvious. But some imax theaters don’t have that so the 70mm film will give us the full aspect imax ratio
I feel very fortunate to live near a 15/70 theater, even more so after learning there are only 12 screens in the whole world showing it on film. Can’t wait to see it on March 1.
I’m a 45 minute subway ride to the AMC Lincoln Square in New York- so happy and surprised to see that it’s one of only 12 theaters in the world in true IMAX 15/70. I’ve already reserved seats for 2 showings of Dune: Part Two. Just went to see the reissue of Dune Part Two and Tenet- and both films still wowed me even though I’ve seen them multiple times. Thanks for the video!
Unfortunately, our local 70mm IMAX theater shut down a few years ago. It was one of the few true IMAX theaters here in the States, and now it's gone. 😢
@@DesignedbyKirk Yeah, the theater is located way out in the suburbs, it's actually located at our major zoo here. It's owned by the zoo, then they sold it to a private company that ran the theater for a few years. Then that company sold it to IMAX corporation and they ran it for another few years before they decided to shut it down. Because of its location, it wasn't profitable for IMAX and they have tons of smaller digital IMAX theaters in the city and those theaters make a lot of money for them.
@@Bluboy30 IMAX would probably need its own film studio to have the content to show in the theatres. The main studios have been a mess since the 1980s and are a shadow of what they once were.
Oppenheimer was seriously a very UN-imax experience. It was only worth it for the great sound. 90% of that movie was just static shots in tight rooms. But Dune 2, a TRULY EPIC experience, hands down.
WHAAAAAAAAT?! I thought they didn't do it AT ALL ?????? cus SAME THEATRE I saw oppenheimer 1570 IMAX, didn't have it in film this time.... OOOFS. i mean the regal mall of georgia still has an impressive showing tho tbhh just not 11/10 experience oppenheimer had being the 1.43:1 ratio FULL (80ft ) WALL
i watched at IMAX Manchester Trafford Centre (not 70mm). I believe what I'm hearing but why would you sit front row? I remember doing this once on IMAX, was really uncomfortable, had to keep turning head to see different parts of the screen. I was back row, perfect got blasted away (mainly by sound!)
Let’s hope this motivates Villeneuve to shot his Cleopatra in real IMAX 15/70. Nolan will have a competitor and that can only be good for IMAX (and Kodak) 😛
2:17 how does this makes sense ? Digital to analog to digital again ?😂 I thought Analog Film 35mm and 70mm (75mm panavision) is the highest picture quality you can get ..6K or 12K and every digital copy is allready reducing the size of the film and so the details ! You Film analog and that’s the master ! The highest quality it gets ! Than you do 1 copy for digital what should be Native 4k at least ! I heard rumors that if it has a lot of digital effects they don’t even get rendered in 4k but only 2K so the Tv has to upscale ! This seems like a scam to me … I saw In 2019 Apocalypse Now in its 40y anniversary and it blew me away to this day … no film ever recreated that image and sound quality ! Not Dune 2 or Oppenheimer … wich i saw on the same screen
I would have to drive more than 7 hours to go to an IMAX 70MM. I've watched this movie 4 times in regular IMAX but I really really want to experience it in IMAX 70MM :(
Please Don't get me wrong....The way IMAX Melbourne theatre's seats are designed, only last row people will enjoy the movie. God save the fist row people from neck pain.
*I don’t recommend watching 70mm in San Antonio TX. The projector is ancient and dim, the speakers were terribly equalized and lacked depth.* *I bought into one of these “70mm imax is awesome” type of videos for Oppenheimer and drove 3 hours to SA TX and it was not worth it. The alternating aspect ratios throughout the film was distracting on top of the terrible theatre experience.*
I hate to say it, but Dune Part Two wasn't worth watching on a big IMAX screen, it didn't seem like they designed the shots for a big screen that fills your peripheral vision. Everything is filmed way too close (and with a long focal lenght). Seems to me like a marketing afterthought.
Blows me away a bit that the IMAX digital version wouldn't be 8k. They would be some big pixels at 4k . 10cm squared in fact. A little disappointing that you wouldn't get more detail than your tv at home
Dune Part 2 on an IMAX print is a waste of the print as it wasn’t shot in IMAX film. You can’t gain resolution from what you shot and it would have been shot just under 4k resolution. Also the dual laser version will also have a better sound mix than the print. This realise just feels like Warner Bros trying to get Nolan back. Also fun fact: only one IMAX film can be shot on IMAX film at a time because their are only eight IMAX film cameras, so IMAX only rent out the group for one film at a time.
Saw it on 70mm for my second view and ngl it was a worse experience. Too dull, noticeably around the corners, and everything was blurry. Also the film running was super loud.
I would dare to say that this is purely marketing for the movie. More than 99% of theaters screen the movie in 2.40:1 aspect ratio, which is the format Greig Fraser focused all his artistic decisions on. IMAX is an enlargement of the frame, resulting in losing the original framing intended for each shot. I understand there might be a few scenes designed specifically for IMAX, but the majority is optimized for the standard format, which most audiences will see.
I am sorry even in this video I can see its the same projetor based imagine = same quality like 100 years ago cinemas , disgusting brightened image. Only good thing about cinemas is the audio. I will wait and watch movie at home on my big OLED in 4K HDR in my dark room , not this white trash projectors.
It wasnt shot on 70mm Imax film. It was shot digitally and then coverted to film, unlike parts of Openheimmer. So not sure what is really to be gained?
I saw Oppenheimet in 70 mm. I’ll also mention I worked on Hateful eight and so I saw it in 70 mm as well. And I lived during the era when 70 mm was the best format. I saw a Star Wars and all those films. I was completely underwhelmed with Oppenheimer in an e- millimeter. I saw it on one of the biggest screens available. 70 millimeter was great and it’s day.. But it is no longer a superior format. Best it’s tied.. I see no more clarity in your resolution between 70 mm and the best digital formatting. There’s no reason to go see the 70.Mm over good IMAX or Dolby digital presentation.
As someone from Quebec, I find it odd how the closest IMAX theatre that has a 70mm projector is out in Toronto given the fact that IMAX was originally a local brand before moving it's HQ to Toronto, and we've got the highest concentration of IMAX screens in the world (with some of the lowest prices to boot). It just seems odd that having proper film reels available is the one thing we don't have here.
