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Getting the Best Picture from your Sega Master System! Introducing the RGB 200 series. We start light with the Sega's 8-bit console, the Master System! Let's figure out what kind of video signals the console is capable of producing natively or via modification.
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@Mzo001 9 лет назад

No doubt, SMS RGB nearly knocked me on my ass the first time I saw it. I was slowly backing away from the CRT and tripped.

@CosmicEffect 9 лет назад

Great episode guys, as usual. Here in Brazil, the Master System 1 was identical to the US version, except for the A/V Out that was not present; there is RF of course and a direct composite (1 video and 1 audio RCA outputs) was added on the back by Tec Toy (SEGA oficial retailer here in Brazil). I play/capture only via Power Base on the Mega Drive using RGB and I was very pleased to know that it's a little brighter and saturated, thanks for sharing that comparison Coury! Please keep doing this series, its awesome to see you guys showing true love for outputting the best image on our real consoles. Cheers from Brazil!

@henriquebeira 5 лет назад

Hey, I came here to know how to play Master System nicely, and now I realise that I need a Power Base :-P

@JohnnyProctor9 4 года назад

You guys are AWESOME for keeping the SMS alive...THANK YOU!!!

@JohnnyProctor9 4 года назад

@@henriquebeira - ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

@jazzdub4958 Год назад

The Master System was my first games console in the mid 1980s when I was in Junior High. Hang On, Wonder Boy, Thunder Blade, Outrun, Alex Kidd, Golden Axe etc. Absolutely loved it. The 1980s were magical times for kids following entertainment across the board.

@arioca 9 лет назад

SMS is an amazing console and the first console to output RGB natively when everyone else was just offering RF or Composite. It's also backwards compatible with SG-1000 games if you put Roms on a Master EverDrive flash cart and play it on a Master System; not on a Genesis with Power Base Converter unfortunately. Great episode, I'm looking forward for more!

@ryanmcclenahan7600 7 лет назад

so basically. everyone with scart cables had the luxury of rgb when this came out. now in the us, we can get adapters to use scart on our us crts. this is amazing.

@stuffums 6 лет назад

I think it's why in EU the mega drive was more popular than NES even if it had fewer classics, the NES just output garbage RF or composite even with the French RGB adaptor but Sega put in proper SCART hardware

@Koexistence13 6 лет назад

The 8 pin din or oversize looking s video port on the back supports ?Scart? I googled and it looks like a pc monitor output. How can I convert that out put to plug into my LG flat screen?

@Longlius 5 лет назад

It should be emphasized that not all scart TVs supported RGB, and it wasn't until the late 90s that the TVs that did came down enough in price to be something that the average consumer could buy. The scart connector was envisioned as an all-in-one format for carrying a video signal, so scart connections can carry anything from an RF signal to component and RGB. It just depends on what your TV supports. There's a weird tendency in the retro community to overromanticize SCART. While it was a better, more coherent standard than what we got in the US, you shouldn't imagine Europeans playing their Mega Drives with full RGB in 1993 or what have you (unless they were wealthy enough to afford a TV that could display RGB video).

@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад

Bobby Dugart I bet you guys regret leaving the empire now, huh?

@justanotheryoutubechannel 5 лет назад

Matthew Longley Most, if not all, TVs with SCART input can support RGB. But not all SCART sockets can take RGB. Most can, but not all. However, most Europeans used RF. Although we could’ve been using beautiful RGB, we stuck with the worst of the worst, as most people didn’t know any better.

@Retrofixes 9 лет назад

Great work! Explaining RGB to customers can be difficult, especially with each console. Your entire RGB video series is top notch.

@FinalBaton 9 лет назад

It's amazing how ahead of their time Sega consoles were regarding the quality of video signals you could tap in right out of the box. The fact that the Master System ouputs RGB natively is crazy. Nintendo, on the other hand, has always been screwing customers in that regard. The NES didn't offer anything better than composite (at the time, offering composite was actually good : but look at what the Master System could offer). For the SNES, some of the revisons offer a blurry RGB picture, and all of them have vertical bars in the middle of the screen when stock (the Genesis, on the other hand, offers crystal-clear RGB). The N64 have a very nasty Anti-Aliasing filter that blurs the picture (meanwhile, the Saturn offers clear RGB, as is always the case with Sega consoles). Thankfully now there are nice solutions for nintendo consoles (i almost cried of joy the first time I played on my RGB modded Nes lol), but they still require work and money to be invested in them, while Sega consoles offer crystal-clear RGB natively on all their consoles, and you have to appreciate that.

@venares76 8 лет назад

+FinalBaton Even the Wii only came with composite cables in 2006! unbelievable. I had to buy separate component cables.

@achived3200 5 лет назад

guess you could say sega does what nintendon't

@pungisotu 5 лет назад

The SMS' RGB had jail bars and the Mark III was very dark, unusable by some's account.

@badreality2 4 года назад

@@venares76 What the hell are you "crying" about? The PS3 I bought in 2011 ONLY came with composite cables. Let me repeat that.

@badreality2 4 года назад

Yes, but remember, the RGBs that comes out of Sega systems are unattenuated, so you need to buy the correct SCART or JP21 converter cables with capacitors and resistors in them, to compensate for this. The U.S., at least. For RGB regions (PAL, Japan), this is NOT a worry.

@tbb033 8 лет назад

The Master System DID include the composite cables in the box. At least they did at one point, like when I got mine for Christmas in the 80's. I no longer have that SMS, but I still have the cable. Sold the SMS after I got a Power Base converter, but still needed the cable for my model 1 Genny.

@yaspino9863 4 года назад

The music in the first minute is from the SMS game Zillion. I used to love it as a child. When i heard it again it gave me goosebumps.

@neoinfinity 9 лет назад

Great video, can't wait for the next episode in this series. My first proper console was the original SMS with the light gun, loved playing Operation Wolf on our little 14" TV in the late 80s.

@delatroy 8 лет назад

Sorry in not ready for something higher than RF quality yet.

@mistamontiel00 4 года назад

l0l

@martijnk2430 9 лет назад

Great that you guys are going to look into each console specificly!

@Metal-Possum 9 лет назад

This is a very US-centric video. The Master System was also available in Europe and Australia/New Zealand, but we don't use F-connectors for our terrestrial television here in NZ, so there is no "screwing in". It's a larger connector, similar fit to an RCA connector. But these are just little details...

@pabloxd1239 5 лет назад

im from europe and my dad has been ussing rf since the first day (yeah what ever)

@DJeimaXe 8 лет назад

1:58 No *WONDER* why my apartment neighbor was able to watch me play my Nintendo games down stairs next to my bed room -.- I don't even recall using an amplifier to emit higher audio/video air waves.

@justinholmes5614 8 лет назад

I made my N64 do the same. 13 year old me added an audio out to the RF converter and didn't quite get the idea of common ground. Worked great though, apart from transmitting my N64 to the neighbours.

@schneemann 9 лет назад

Seriously, your videos are awesome every time. I wish you (literally) a thousand times more viewers.

@mc045 4 года назад

Very positive video, even the intro and outro music is uplifting. 10/10 would watch again. Thank you!

@farhan_jiwani 9 лет назад

Please make more of these 200 series! You guys are awesome. I've been looking at the xRGB-mini for over a year and finally ordered it. After a year, I got the most info from you guys just from 5 videos!

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

Farhan Jiwani [Coury] We've got tons planned, tentative date for 202 is May 22nd. With 302 following after that. Our current plan is 2 RGB episodes in a row, then 2-4 game based ones. We don't want to solely focus on the RGB videos, because A) They're very time consuming an draining based on the amount of B-Roll we collect and B) we want to keep talking about games and other subjects as well!

@farhan_jiwani 9 лет назад

***** fully understandable! your other vids are very professional and great to watch. I'll try to find you on Patreon

@joxidearmageddonator882 5 лет назад

that difference in quality is amazing. i have a A/V to red/yellow/white AV an the quality's not great. i'm gonna get the scart adapter now. subscribed you rule my dude

@blriopdilrtsx7324 4 года назад

Ahhh ... My first console. Altered Beast was the first console game I ever played. Never knew they had glasses for it, whoa.

@wettuga2762 6 лет назад

One thing that was not mentioned, is what kind of RGB: sync-on-composite or composite sync (aka csync), but it's most probably the first one. Love all your videos, specially this series! Sooner or later I'm taking most of my systems to RGB heaven :D

@SleeperHonda 9 лет назад

Man I really love the Master system. The games, the music. Ah I miss saturday mornings as a little kid..

@BladeBlur 9 лет назад

Thanks for showing the power base converter. I bought it for 25 bucks hoping it'll be a nice shortcut so I won't have to get the SMS , glad it looks better

@iliariano3126 5 лет назад

I bought recently a Master System 1 and I am looking forward to receiving it.

@JohnnyProctor9 4 года назад

I guarantee, you won't be disappointed with the amazing quality and variety of games available for this gem...

@proudmonky1 8 лет назад

I don't know if all board revisions are the same but my Sega Master System works great with the Genesis cable from HD Retrovision.

@RideRedRacer 8 лет назад

seeing you sit on that couch with the glasses on and all those wires running across the floor was hilarious

@boulax 8 лет назад

Nobody seems to know that there are some variations of the Master System 2 that came with the same AV/out as the model 1, especially in France where SCART was prevalent. I have one of those, they come with a scart cable but they only work with the framemeister if you disable the SYNC as it was handled differently in the SECAM standard.

@DxDeksor 6 лет назад

It's not SECAM, it's just RGB. NTSC,PAL and SECAM are standards used for composite video and its derivatives

@megamanfan1500 9 лет назад

Honestly, one of my favorite video series to come along on youtube. Excellent job as always, guys. Quick question, I see that you guys have a Toshiba CRT in the background. In your opinion, do you recommend it's tube over some other consumer grade crt televisions, such as sony? Also, what did you use to get an rgb signal to that television?

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

megamanfan1500 [Coury] Only since moving in December have I had room to hook up a CRT to play on (and shoot video off of) have I really gotten back into it. I didn't know what to get for a long time, but was pointed in the the direction of the Toshiba by Game Sack and I just adore the thing. The model I have is a 27AF44 and I got it at good will for 12 dollars. It has Composite, S-Video and Component in on it. . It has big beautiful scanlines and is a flatscreen. In terms of getting the signal to the TV, all the SMS stuff in this episode that was shot off screen was via the Master System's composite. Though I do have a SCART to Component converter on the way to use in the future with it.

@megamanfan1500 9 лет назад

***** Thanks for the response Coury. I also heard from Gamesack that Toshiba has the best CRT screen for retro games. I found mine at a flea market for a bit more ($35), but the quality is fantastic, and allows composite, s-video, and component.

@TheAmazingMoose-Man 2 года назад

Love these series, but honestly ive been waiting for YEARS for the dreamcast episode

@largolagrande 9 лет назад

Really cool extended series of the original one. Im looking forward to this. Thanks. Regards from Europe.

@orgillmathew 5 лет назад

Still have my original from 1987, first game was Transbot and teddy boy in card, my favourite game was Golden Axe Warrior which was a role playing game “sega version of Zelda”.

@beaglelad 9 лет назад

Loving the series thank you soooooooooo much for making them!..............P.S Loving the intro music ;o)

@JohnnyProctor9 4 года назад

Thank you, I fucking LOVE this console!!!

@honorablejay 8 лет назад

In case someone might need to use an RF modulator on a system but cannot find one, here's a great tip: You can use a standard RCA cable (the same used for composite/component) and plug it into the RF port on the console. Then, you can hook it directly to the coax input on the TV with a dirt cheap adapter (coax on one side, RCA plug on the other). Generally the adapter is called a RCA Female to F Male.

@Larry 9 лет назад

Question: If these machines output RGB, would it be possible to make up a Component cable for it?

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

***** It is! And that's exactly what HD Retrovision is working on doing!

@videogamepolak0 9 лет назад

+HD Retrovision been snoozing on them cables...

@HDRetrovision 9 лет назад

VideoGame Polak oh?

@Larry 9 лет назад

VideoGame Polak Yes, get back to work, this aint no sleepover. :D

@videogamepolak0 9 лет назад

HD Retrovision whats the D-date on these cables

@doubtingthomas1312 3 года назад

RF... I remember that. talk about back in the day.

@daamazinfatb0y752 5 лет назад

SEGA MASTER SYSTEM 2!!!! My first ever console! Had Sonic The Hedghog byuilt into the console and that was of course my first ever game!

@JoshuaRastia 9 лет назад

This video series is really cool! I hope you guys do one on the N64 soon..i love that console but it's a pain trying to get any crisp picture on it

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

Joshua Rastia [Try4ce] Definitely looking forward to doing the N64 200-level video. It's one of my favorite consoles, because that was the generation when I really started to follow upcoming games and anticipate their release. But I will say, don't expect miracles when it comes to the N64. Unlike PS1, N64 games tend to have a softer image due to anti-aliasing, which is a great effect for consoles that run in 480i and higher, but turns out to not be such a great thing for 240p. RGB modding the N64 does improve the colors and the textures feel like they have a bit more contrast and definition, but it's hardly the revelatory experience that RGB is with say, NES or Genesis.

@JoshuaRastia 9 лет назад

Understandable. Still, anything to help improve the quality even a little will still be awesome and helpful :) can't wait!

@Waifu4Life 9 лет назад

Sweet, keep those videos coming guys :)

@remastersystem4147 5 лет назад

This is awesome. Thanks for the tips!

@Frenomnom 9 лет назад

The master system is very kind when it comes to modding and it's very easy. I live in Sweden, Europe. I modded mine so I got 50/60hz and a language button. All without any soldering experience, only RU-vid :) Thanks for a awesome episode as always :) the sega master system will always be my no 1 system :)

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

Frenom [Coury] Thanks! Its such a great system and I'm happy to have still have my childhood console. I actually have an FM mod on the way at last and can't wait to get it installed.

@Koexistence13 5 лет назад

I have a SMS nodded with the FM sound chip. After watching this video I bought a scart rgb cable for the av out. I then connect it through an Elephas scart to hdmi converter to the tv. No noticeable lag in game play and a great picture after choosing 720 resolution on the converter and adjusting the picture settings on my LG tv. Not perfect like the frameister but still really good and only about $60 to$70 in total.

@JomasterTheSecond 8 лет назад

Technically, they REPLACED Snail Maze with Alex Kidd in the MSII. Plus even in the SMS 1 there were a bunch of other versions with other games build in like Hang On, OutRun and Safari Hunt.

@cosminduna3771 9 лет назад

What you did is very nice and useful, but you might want to check twice the technical details if you want to mention them. For instance, the the box on the RF cable is not the RF modulator, it is just a switch between the game and TV the antenna. The modulator is inside the console. Also composite cannot be modulated into S-video, modulation means modifying a carrier signal amplitude/frequency/phase (usually RF) according to the useful signal (video/audio).

@ClockUnClock Год назад

I remember how everyone is like "The Master System comes with built-in game(s)!" and then when I bought mine from a Pawn shop a few years back, I turned mine on and.... nothing, no game built in. Just instructions on how to insert and play a cartridge. Turns out, the very first run of Master Systems came with a physical cartridge packed in, and not a game built in. Either way though, still plays in beautiful RGB over SCART :D

@awmosoft 9 лет назад

I bought a Sega master System 2 with the same A/V port as the Sega Master System Mark 1 has. The version I have is a Belgium one, but It lacks of a RF port. I use Scart cable for it.

@JasonValentineFL 9 лет назад

Love your channel, you guys have great production value and I always feel I'm genuinely interested in everything you have to say, have either of you taken film classes?

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

I do games [Coury] Thanks so much! We strive to have as nice looking and tightly edited content as possible. If we've taken classes: yeah, we both went to school for film and video and currently work professionally in that environment.

@AvalancheReviews 9 лет назад

Nice! I think I'll grab a powerbase converter, since I already have a scart cable for my genesis.

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

[coury] I was definitely not expecting the difference to be as big as it is. I thought they were gonna be identical.

@AvalancheReviews 9 лет назад

Yeah, way brighter. Im pretty stoked to get into some MS games. Never even knew it existed, growing up.

@DougPlummer 9 лет назад

***** I wonder if the video difference is from the SG1000 palettes present in the Master system and no in the Genesis

@austinfowler2707 3 месяца назад

Side note: it has been over 9 years since this series started, and in the opening, they show all the consoles that many of us now would consider retro. The Xbox Classic is on that list but has yet to do a video on it. Or it has been delisted.

@pokepress 8 лет назад

Any chance of going to consoles prior to this generation? I think someone just developed a true RGB mod for the 2600. If any pre-SMS/NES system is worth it, it would be that one. Also, some early computers might be worth discussing (Apple II for sure).

@mylifeingaming 8 лет назад

[Try4ce] Oh yeah, Atari and Colecovision are definitely on our radar. We want to eventually do as many systems as possible!

@mylifeingaming 8 лет назад

+pokepress [Coury] Its our goal, over time to cover as many consoles as we possibly can. Theres probably even some we'll eventually do that we haven't even thought of yet!

@RedArremer 9 лет назад

Very nice! I've got both the original Master System (3D Glasses set), and the Power Base Converter. Right now, the Power Base Converter works so well that I kind of really don't see the need to even keep the Master Sytem around. That being said, I did run into an issue with the Genesis when I bought a JP-21 RGB cable for it, and that was very ugly 'jail bars'. I did some Googling and learned that these first models of the Genesis are known to have this issue because of the poor design of the video encoding process. Thankfully the fix was fairly simple, involving breaking one of the trace lines on the circuit board of the Genesis. The results were amazing. The jail bars were completely removed, and the picture looked flawless. The drawback is doing this mod removes all other video output from the Genesis, so you either have to live with only RGB (oh the humanity), or rig a toggle switch on the line in the circuit board to be able to turn composite video sources back on.

@jeffbanfieldsflwr3537 Год назад

Did I mention, I love these guys?

@Phredreeke 8 лет назад

actually, the signal coming out of the RF port on the system is already modulated, the device you stick in between the TV and console just prevents the game's video signal from interfering with the connected cable TV or antenna and leading to a not so pleasant visit from your cable company or the FCC =P

@mylifeingaming 8 лет назад

+Phredreeke [Try4ce] Yeah, at the time, we were erroneously using the terms "switch" and "modulator" interchangeably, but have since come to better understand what they're doing. It had been a long time since we were concerned with how those things worked. :P

@kaceymcmullin4432 2 года назад

Wonderful review! Thanks!

@MellowGaming 9 лет назад

I really should use my Master System more. It's a Master System 2 though. I think even as a kid I only ever saw 1 original MS. I always felt like the system got a bit overlooked. There may not have been so many games that still get talked about now but it could really pump out some decent graphics for the time.

@TheDeeplyCynical 9 лет назад

Get it modded, and install Tim worthington's FM mod board as well to add FM sound capability in compatable games

@MoonSpiritChannel 9 лет назад

Very informative, and I hope to see more of these videos. Wonder what consoles you'll be talking about next.

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

[coury] thanks! We have a ton planned, we just chose an easier system to introduce the 200 level and determine how they'll flow. NES is next, and it'll be a big one. Lots of options and mods.

@MoonSpiritChannel 9 лет назад

Cool, this got me wondering if you guys might cover the Atari systems, or Intellivision, just out of curiosity.

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

MoonSpiritExp [Try4ce] I've got my hands on an Atari 2600, which I'd like to get S-Video modded, and a ColecoVision, which I'd like to get composite modded. Definitely will do videos on them when that happens!

@EpicGamerWinXD69 9 лет назад

Could you tell me where to get a premodded Atari or colecovision , please???,

@pferreira1983 2 года назад

Good video. I loved growing up with the Master System II with Sonic built in but while the design of the Mark II looks more attractive the original I've come to realise is superior for having those extra features.

@RodrigoGeraldo 8 лет назад

perfect, congratulations👍

@Develitate 9 лет назад

Great video. I loved the 100 series videos, can't want to see all of the console specific 200 series videos. :) Quick Question: When showing the comparison between composite and RGB in this video is the composite signal being processed by the Framemeister and then sent to your VCC, or is the composite signal running directly to the VCC?

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

Develitate [Coury] When the composite signal is being processed by the Framemeister we'll specifically say it, like I do before the A/B of Composite vs RGB. It just comes down to the ease of being able to accurately capture a composite signal. Its tougher these days to find a capture card worth anything that will capture from a composite line in. While the Framemeister offers a definite jump even with composite, the difference between it and RGB is still night and day.

@Develitate 9 лет назад

***** I assumed as much based on the breakdown of your equipment via RGB102, but I do appreciate the clarification. :) Keep up the good work. MLiG is one of my absolute favorite gaming channels. I'm looking forward to your next video!

@Brucelygamereviewer 7 лет назад

The Saturn and Dreamcast haven't been covered yet in the RGB201 series. Please consider making a video about them in the future.

@mylifeingaming 7 лет назад

[Try4ce] Oh don't worry about it. We basically want to make videos on every system we possibly could. Saturn is a very high priority. Dreamcast is too, but we'd like to do Saturn first.

@Brucelygamereviewer 7 лет назад

I'm definitely looking forward!

@justanotheryoutubechannel 6 лет назад

Okay, so I have a question. Is it possible to mod a NES controller to work with a Mega Drive (or vice versa) for use with master system games, or perhaps an adaptor to do that? And if not, can you make one work with the Master System? I don’t know myself, but you guys, as retro geniuses and great RU-vidrs, are more likely to know than me so I thought it was worth asking.

@skycloud4802 2 года назад

Built in Snail Maze game? I don't remember that. I remember built in Sonic the Hedgehog and on another relatives SMS2 being Alex the Kid in Miracle World.

@gamesessions 8 лет назад

I'm surprised you didn't mention anything about the fm modulator on the Japanese version and how the west didn't get this as standard - otherwise it was a very informative video indeed and I look forward to watching the rest of this series :)

@cdoublejj 8 лет назад

HD retro vision has new cable for sega, it adds a few pixles to vertical resolution too.

@philipcohen7192 Год назад

My original master system has visible jailbars with rgb so I purchased a Japanese master system and it looks incredible

@slightlytwistedagain 9 лет назад

Awesome tutorial.

@JRussellProductions 6 лет назад

Hi Coury and Tryce. @MyLifeInGaming Have you thought of doing a RGB Master Class episode about getting the best picture for the Atari 2600? Looked on your Playlist and couldn't see one. :o Any chance of seeing that episode in the future? Cheers, SIJArts

@mylifeingaming 6 лет назад

[Try4ce] Definitely in the plans but it could be a while still!

@JRussellProductions 6 лет назад

@@mylifeingaming No worries Try4ce. :) Thanks for the answer mate, Keep up the great episodes. You and Coury are doing a great job with all these videos. All the best. Josh SIJArts

@ImTheKingOfHyrule 7 лет назад

Some Master Systems have a jailbar problem in RGB mode that requires an amplifier mod to fix, so your mileage may vary on how easy it is to get the best picture quality from it.

@dub2536 4 года назад

I had no clue you could use an S-video cable on the Master System. IMO the Sega Master System outclassed the NES in graphics in a certain way. Maybe that's just my opinion,m but what shocks me most of all is how all video game manufacturers failed to offer stereo sound until the late 1980s. Wonder why??? I ;learned a lot thanks to your channel. Much appreciated.

@mylifeingaming 4 года назад

[Try4ce] Keep in mind though that it only works with a mod to the console. It doesn't support S-video out of the box!

@henriquebeira 5 лет назад

Hey, I came here to know how to play Master System nicely, and now I realise that I need a Power Base :-P

@JohnnyProctor9 4 года назад

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

@ChibiFighter 9 лет назад

I personally can't wait until you guys get to the SNES on this series, I'm getting a Framemeister next month and I'm eager to see what you have to say on it.

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

***** [Try4ce] SNES is gonna be a fun one! Seems simple enough on the surface, but there are a lot of considerations, too. In the meantime, our video on the NES is releasing in about two weeks!

@PSPpocketfilms 9 лет назад

This is an excellent idea. After having my framemeister for about a week (still learning) this couldn't have come a better time. Only request is if there are any specific settings or image modes you suggest on the XRGB that are console specific.

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

Mitchell Bowling [Coury] Congrats on the Framemeister! Our next episode is specifically on all the different options of the Framemeister. Stuff like image processing modes, scaling modes will all be broken down. But in the man time, for me personally, I like the "NORMAL2" scaling mode and for image processing, for all progressive sources you should use the "PICTURE" setting.

@RedArremer 9 лет назад

There is an incredible amount of research still on-going about all the options and quirks of the Framemeister. It's taken me the better part of a month to master the Framemeister's features just for 240p console gaming alone. While it is an amazing little device, it does have some flaws and limitations. For example, if you want the cleanest and sharpest looking picture, you'll want to use 1080p output if you have a 1080p display. Unfortunately, the Framemeister uses a very lazy scanline overlay system, and they look just awful at 1080p. Most people just settle for the loss of sharpness and output at 720p so they can have more tolerable scanlines. Also 1080p is such that most console images don't scale properly without either leaving a border, or have oddly shaped pixels on the vertical axis (causes scrolling artifacts in the up & down direction). I've worked out my own solutions to 1080p output, but it would take several pages to explain here. I'm thinking about making a page on my web site dedicated to all my findings about how the Framemeister works and behaves for 240p gaming.

@artart9671 4 года назад

I just use a crt, it looks great!

@Sk4zZi0uS 9 лет назад

I remember the days when RF would have been thought of as pretty decent... I don't remember it looking as sucky as it does. I have both a model one Master System with Snail built in and a composite modded SMS2 with a region speed switch... we really got stiffed in the UK when it came to the speed games played. Sometimes playing games on US systems or emulated, I feel really quite thrown off by the increase in speed making some games unplayable (without a ton of practice anyway). Cracking video as always. Really looking forward to the blog post with the timeline screenshot... those assets at the start :D

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

Sk4zZi0uS [Coury] Y'know, I remember it looking alot better too. But I think the CRT itself makes it look a lot better. Getting a capture of an RF output was not easy. I was lucky that my CRT has a composite out, so i had to run that into a DVD recorder which would then spt that out as component into my capture card.

@slightlytwistedagain 9 лет назад

Later master system games were actually done at the correct speed. Sonic 2 for SMS was done properly compared to Sonic 1.

@Ballowax 4 года назад

@@mylifeingaming why didn't you just plug the composite out into the frameister and then plug the framiester into the capture card

@TheDeeplyCynical 9 лет назад

The French version of the SMS II was still RGB compatible (Peritel) posibly due to some legal requirement (as was the french version of the NES), sadly the rest of europe and the US got the poor deal.

@und4287 4 года назад

Technically the French NES converted composite to RGB

@pedropablopicasso 9 лет назад

Great videos! Are you guys planning to do more console-specific episodes? If so, could you guys do one on the PlayStation?

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

thegeniusgamer1234 [Coury] We are definitely doing more. Look for a new one on the 21st of the month, in fact! Eventually we'd like to cover all systems possible, and the Playstation is definitely on that list.

@pedropablopicasso 9 лет назад

Awesome! I'll put it on my calendar. :)

@happyspaceinvader508 6 лет назад

It would be great to see coverage of the less popular systems, Atari Jaguar, Panasonic 3DO, etc.

@1supacress 9 лет назад

During your intro, I was looking for a "tracking" button on my phone...

@طلالالشطي-ظ4ج 6 лет назад

Ur channel is fantastic 👍🏻

@remingtonsteele3684 5 лет назад

Two questions: 1.) Regarding best possible picture console, I don't really get it: Did I get something wrong, I think you mention on one hand the Mega Drive with Power Base converter delivers best picture quality, but on the other hand in the summary you state the Master System I delivers the best experience visually? 2.) Is the Mega Drive with Power Base converter also superior to a RGB modded Master System II? I have the latter and so far I'm very satisfied with its picture quality.

@le1er133 6 лет назад

Rf and composite looks good on a crts from the 2000s

@Nikku4211 Год назад

Don't forget that the original SMS can play SG-1000 games, though with a messed up palette. Mega Drive, even with Power Base Converter, does not support SG-1000 video modes, meaning you can't play SG-1000 games properly, nor can you play F-16 Fighting Falcon.

@ojbeez5260 4 года назад

Problem with the SEGA master system is the D PAD breaks. riscman on eBay does some awesome REPLACEMENT 3D prints of these SEGA D-PADs. Really cheap and great quality too!! Check it out!

@zz_the_one539 7 лет назад

Well my Sega Master System is connected through RGB and has jail bars in the image. I bought the cables from Retro Console Accessories. I think it may be an issue with the system. Wonder what version of the system they are using.

@kevinwoolford123 5 лет назад

As far as I know all master system units have jailbars. Reducing brightness can help on darker areas but bright blues can show it up still sadly. I'm using mine on the ossc 5x mode.

@Ginkaze 8 лет назад

I have a question unrelated to the excelent video here: is it possible that you'll making a video about the "PS2-Backwards-Compatibility"-mod for PS3? I remember that someone sold a small board that should make it backwards compatible again and better than every Sony solution at the start of the console. But it could be possible Sony already locked this mod completely out years ago. I really don't know, but it would be interesting to see how good or bad it worked and how video quality turned out.

@mylifeingaming 8 лет назад

[Try4ce] I'm actually completely unaware of this. My feeling is that it still wouldn't beat playing on a real PS2, but that is very interesting. I'd like to look into it if this is a thing.

@tomasdelizia3695 8 лет назад

My Life in Gaming I also didn't know that, it sounds reslly cool

@mrcrono6663 6 лет назад

Do you mod any systems for those of us that can't do it ourselves? (bad wrists) I'd love to get my SMS to the stage that the quality is at during 4:15 that's just gorgeous!

@mylifeingaming 6 лет назад

[Try4ce] I wish we could, but we get help from others for ours too!

@mrcrono6663 6 лет назад

Who do you get your help from? Would love to have a system that's perfect like that as well.

@Goerno 8 лет назад

What game is shown at 5:00 ? It tickles my memory of something I enjoyed playing years and years ago. The one in the desert.

@mylifeingaming 8 лет назад

+Goerno [Coury] That one is Aztec Adventure!

@onetwo6039 4 года назад

But will the Genesis HD retrovision cables work with the Genesis model 1 adapter on the master system? 🤔

@mylifeingaming 4 года назад

[Try4ce] Yep.

@kayte13 Месяц назад

So on the AC cable, on the end of it - are 2 separate pin plugs? A yellow and a white pin plug . What do they plug into on the TV?

@TheCoolDave 5 лет назад

As normal, great video for one of my fav classic systems. SCART cables, do they require CSYNC or will cheap Sync-on composite cable works (1/2 the price)? I tried one that I grabbed for the Genesis but, I got audio and no video though my framemeister.

@mylifeingaming 5 лет назад

[Try4ce] I would not get sync-on-composite cables unless they use coaxial cabling. They will be very noisy otherwise. But there is nothing wrong with sync-on-composite if the cables have enough shielding.

@TheCoolDave 5 лет назад

@@mylifeingaming I have a CSync cable ($35 cable)coming for my Genesis, I'll use my 2 to 1 adapter to try it on the Master System..if it works I'll buy it...man this project is getting expensive...I tried 2 eBay cheap cables and they BOTH gave audio but no video on the SMS...they gave unstable image on the Genesis through the framemeister

@TheCoolDave 5 лет назад

@@mylifeingaming Thanks. I just got a CSYNC cable...and she works fine now. Thanks for the advice and the videos !

@conraderino7619 9 лет назад

Thx, this was really good help. Btw you know the old sega adapter, did it have a red light?

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

+Conraderino Nilsen [Coury] You mean the AC adapter that plugs into the wall? No, mine doesn't have any kind of red light on it. Actually it doesn't have any kind of light on it period.

@conraderino7619 9 лет назад

+My Life in Gaming.. No actually the SS-55 antenna adapter?

@ShogunGin0 9 лет назад

What game is that game with the fox and hippo punching open eggs? I like the art in it, do you think its a good game?

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

ShogunGino That was Psycho Fox! Pretty decent game. The team that made this went on to do the superior Decap Attack Starring Chuck D. Head.

@Sixfortyfive 9 лет назад

That difference in brightness between the SMS and Genesis was unexpected. Same cables and capture equipment for both setups? I don't know enough about the SMS to say whether that's normal behavior or not., but have you tried out the RGB cable on another SMS?

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

[Coury] Yeah, I used the same cable for these to make sure. My old cable was giving me weird vertical lines that can be seen here: dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16608494/PsychoFox.jpg So i bought a new cable and that is the results I got. I just moving the cable back and forth. I'll try to test on another console as soon as I can get access to it. But even that old cable was giving me a darker picture. The only other thing I can think of is that the caps need replacing and thats causing the picture to be dark. But I recently had it looked at before starting the video and all the caps were looking good (I'm still getting them replaced soon anyway). I saw the GAF thread about it, where some people were saying that the picture was the same between the two. I'd love to be wrong on this one, but I was A/Bing it by switching the cable. As soon as I can get access to another console, I'll give it a shot.

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

[Coury] Alright, I just got done talking with Game Sack about this and my results are indeed correct... from a certain point of view. I used the same cable between the two for my tests and it turns out that it has to do with the resistors in the cable. The Genesis's RGB output is really bright so it needs those resistors to bring the brightness down to a decent level. Unfortunately, those resistors also effect when plugged into a SMS making the image darker. This can be alleviated by removing the resistors in the cable and the SMS picture will be brighter. But at the same time, you won't be able to use the cable on a Genesis without those resistors. So I guess the comparison achieved two things - A) that if you're gonna just use the cable on the SMS, you should get a custom one made without the resistors. And B) The cables, while interchangeable, produce different results on both consoles because they require slightly different innards.

@Sixfortyfive 9 лет назад

***** In the pic above with the jailbars, is that on an SMS or Genesis w/ Power Base Converter? Or do you get those results on both systems?

@mylifeingaming 9 лет назад

Sixfortyfive That one is on a SMS. It was actually a cable I got when I was first getting into things. I got it from Retro Gaming Cables to use on my Genesis, but never used it because after I ordered it, I found out about the cable that has the stereo jack on it and ordered that. That cable arrived before the Retro Gaming Cables cable so I just never used it.I felt like using the SMS was a good opportunity to use it, but that's the image I got...which was completely unacceptable for this video, so ordered a different one and it was great. Unfortunately, I gave the cable away so I can't do any more tests with it.

@Sixfortyfive 9 лет назад

***** Pretty interesting that the jailbars were caused by the cable and not something in the system. Hadn't seen that before. Early revisions of the Genesis 1 have jailbars on solid blue colors which I'd like to go into detail on when the time comes. This video was great as always. Looking forward to the NES; lots of ground to cover there.

@JorisV1983 6 лет назад

hey there, yesterday i found my master system 1 on the atic and hooked it up to my tv and stil works, the image is no bad but can be better ofcourse so what is my best option i have hdmi connections and also scart. i have seen some cables from a seller from the UK are those any good or do i need more?

@Fools_Requiem 6 месяцев назад

There are adapters that work on all versions of the Genesis now.

@drunkensailor112 7 лет назад

You guys should have gone into playing master system through megadrive with power base converter.

@johneymute 9 лет назад

Rgb is absolutely great BUT many games are designed with rf in mind and uses those artifacts to give the ellusion of more colors ,create transparrancy, rainbow or rain effects,so for those whose wants to preserve those effects while still being enable to hookup their master system 2 to a frame meister?? Just hook it up to a vcr and then connect the vcr to the frame meister, there you go.

@LordRayken 8 лет назад

+Johneymute supergd Wrong. They were not designed with RF in mind.

@spotsandfriends4052 8 лет назад

They probably were not made with RF in mind. The developers almost certainly used Professional Video Monitors and RGB through BNC connectors to view their games during development. I have never scene a game that I thought look better through RF than a superior connection. I will agree though that sometimes RGB is a little too clean and can make things on a PVM look too blocky. However, degrading the connection to S-Video or more likely composite solves the issue in that extremely rare scenario.

@MaddSweetGT500 5 лет назад

Would the HD Retrovision cables work on the MasterSystem since they use the same cables?

@mylifeingaming 5 лет назад

[Try4ce] Yes, they work.

@patrickbateman5298 5 лет назад

What are your thoughts on the McWill Game Gear screen mod? Can it go toe to toe with RGB on the SMS?

@justanotheryoutubechannel 6 лет назад

I have honestly never used a weird box thing that screws into the television. Is it an American thing? My English televisions don’t even have a screw on port.