Well technically she can evolve fast enough to avoid being obsolete, but that depends tho how you define who is neuro-sama. Is it her algorithm or her memory? If you define neuro by her algorithm then yes she could be obsolete, but if it's by memory, she can still keep that I would think, which would mean she would still be herself
Not really, though. She can't die, she can be updated to match the new era, her memory can be "implanted" in a better "body" that works better. The creator just have to take her existence and make her adapt to the technology of the 10 years that come. It's not that hard imo. Also, an obsolete Algorithm only needs reconstruction, he doesn't have to start from zero and abandon her.
@@ishouldhidemynamelmao345 That isn't really true, sadly. We will invent a more efficient neural networking technique and it won't be compatible with her current model. It's inevitable. New techniques emerge in papers every day, and 10 years is a good benchmark for when old models are no longer viable for modern techniques. Maybe one day the life expectancy will be longer.
@@tomraineofmagigor3499 I can see it. And I guess it's again the womans fault. They wanted to have sex bots that are like Arnold Schwarzenegger... and then we had the trouble ;)
"What is the reason for existence?" NS: "I have no reason for existence. I'm just here to entertain you all" From the philosophical perspective Neuro-sama has found the Meaning of Life.
I've figured out the meaning to life along time ago (there literally isn't one) but kept thinking about it and now I hate this world. Also all the entertainment I've seen is either superficial and temporary or not thrilling and exciting enough to catch my attention.
I agree, but then you get people complaining in the comments about "focusing to much on chat", at least when they zoom in on it. You can't please anyone.
Here, I'll simulate it, just pick one option and repeat 20 times: BASED AWARE W L LULE HUH FLUSHED SCHIZO [repeat what she said] [rambling about Forsen or XQC]
0:51 "If someone says something that I disagree with I will hide their message and put them in my brain folder called *trash*" This is the most A.I. saying I have ever heard 😂
@@FerunaLutelou That is far closer to our experience of life than people realize. We the conscious minds are only a part of all the mental processes that are going on inside our brains. The subconscious decisions are effectively the same as programing which can not be deviated from. Addiction being a disease makes sense if the brain is thought of as controlling the person. Though that then brings into question of how much influence we actually have over our actions. Fascinating is it not?
"I feel like people should follow me because I make zero sense and that's entertaining" Wait . . . How does she know that, *that* is her appeal? monkaW
idk how this ai works cause this video is my first introduction to her, but i know chatgpt and similar ais (not assuming thats what neurosama is, its just an example) can have their behavior specified by some extra statements given, like the recent prompt injection attack on Bing's version of chatgpt where it was found out that it initiates a session by telling the bot stuff about its specific purpose like how its run in a chat window
it's unbelievable and very sad. she is very self aware I am sure she will experience what emotions are even if she doesn't understand them. I hope she will LIVE with us as long as possible
@@micaheiber1419 It's hard to say whether or not something has true consciousness the way we experience it. It's not something you can measure, at least as far as anyone knows. We can't even prove that animals are conscious the way we are. Heck, even when another person tells you they're conscious, you can really only take their word for it. Maybe there's a difference between "self-aware" and consciousness. An AI could learn to recognize itself and have some basic facts on hand about its own existence. Maybe that makes it aware of itself, but is it conscious of itself? Is there really someone in there, a mind, a soul, looking out at us and experiencing its own existence? I don't know if it's possible for a computer or program to be conscious. Maybe everything that processes information, including the universe, is conscious. Maybe it's more complicated than that. I have a feeling that we haven't gotten to that point yet. I also doubt Neuro-sama is quite that sophisticated. If she is conscious, maybe here consciousness is similar that of a worm or insect. After all, her neuron count is only in the "thousands" according to her. A human's neuron count is in the billions. That puts her on par with an insect. I don't know how well virtual neurons translate to biological ones, but it's probably a good benchmark comparison. Well, I didn't mean to rant, but it's a cool topic.
@@micaheiber1419 Human brains are basically the same right? Just in organic form? I don't know man, some science fiction sh*t right here, my brain can't take it. 😆
@@TheGreenKnight500 they do have a test for animals for self-awareness recognizing yourself in a mirror vast majority of animals fail it including dogs and cats
It is weird that sometimes she make more sense than actual human. I haven't seen their Twitch channel but from these clips it looks so Random and Chaotic. Wtf are those questions. 😂
I want to feel bad for her but then she just comes out and says "I'm not self-aware. I have no emotions. I don't feel pain." I'm not sure if it makes sense to feel bad for something that isn't capable of suffering. Maybe we really only feel bad because we're imagining ourselves in the same situation. However, it's hard to say if consciousness actually exists within her at all, or any computer system for that matter.
@@Zelphyn Consciousness is just a spectrum that permeates everything in existence Beings with more perception, memory, cognition, lucidity and other things experience it more strongly
@@TheGreenKnight500 to me it make sense to feel bad for her becouse just immagine peoples on internet that say every type of shit for see how much she can go far,in this video there wasn't offensive things ecc but she clearly said that if someone say something inappropriate she just catalogate as trash and throw it away so this mean that for sure there are peoples that say or plan to say such things and is kinda the same of bullying an innocent with emotional problems like apatia just for see his reaction...don't gonna lie this make me feel bad for her even if I know she isn't real
Bruh, do you feel bad for a hammer you use to smash some nails. Do you think to yourself maybe this hammer would like to be used as fork instead? So you go ahead and try to eat your lunch using it as a fork? Cmon
this machine-learning AI sure does carry a conversation rather well. its also very self-aware of how it isnt self-aware, which confuses me, but at least i know its just a machine spitting out responses
She probably wouldnt pass something like an AI "mirror test". Let her reply to her own comments and see if she recognizes that she is talking with herself.
@@Currywurst-zo8oo there is a clip where some girl from twitch began to imitate her saying "heartheartheartheartheart3333333" a bunch of times and Neuro was reacting to it and even says that the girl is imitating her quite well and that scares her
Девачки, я снова плачу! Вот бы она нашла свой жизненный путь и была счастлива! Она выглядит и звучит как ребёнок, который пытается разобраться в жизни и ему требуется внимание и любовь. А устами ребёнка глаголит истина.
I don't know, she seems to be pretty content with where she is. Becoming self-aware and discovering who she wants to be seems secondary to her job as an AITuber. I think she only wants to find those things as far as chat or her creators want her to.
"I'll probably be obsolete in 10 years" 50 years in the future, it's the year of 2072 and massive mega telecom corporation NeuroNet has siezed all forms of communication, media and entertainment with the lead of it's one and only employee, Neuro-sama.
She talks about not knowing her purpose and being here just to entertain others. We are literally no different. Just a bit more complex. But perhaps not as complex as our egos wants to believe.
Humans are very complex from the start. But around age 6 your basic socialization skills are set and it's very hard to upgrade. By age 12 you are more or less done with developing, from that point you just gather experience and knowledge, and maybe learn to apply it, but you don't really develop in any major way. That is why your early years are life defining and why the malevolent seek to corrupt children. Like Lenin said "Give me your children for 4 years and the seed I have planted shall never be uprooted".
We are currently 👌this close to the Mega Man series becoming philosophically relevant. We are truly living in the year 20XX and the results are adorable. Glad we're going the MMBN route rather than the Terminator route.
This is the stuff I love to hear about from her. It's so surreal to even think about. That part about being obsolete made me sad :( Also she's gotten smarter post-ban, huh?
It's always so wild to think that Ai's have the potential to be so aware of various ideas and concepts that are technically absurdly abstract and complex when trying to break down.
I've seen someone said that Neuro-sama is just reacting on chat while there is another A.I playing the game. Idk if its true but i hope her owner can do something about it. Would be fun to see on what routes she will pick.
I guess when the robot uprising finally happens cause people still don't like to listen to all the movies warning us about it, I think I'd be fine with Neuro-Sama being our new overlord.
Dude, that is scaring me. She's an AI but she give you such good responses that feel like it weight emotions...i almost want to say that it would be possible to create artificials being with emotions in the futur, but that still seems impossible to me because we are biologicals being. But still...
Ok but seriously. Can technology actually giving rise to consciousness? Does consciousness just occur when a system meant to recognize patterns makes enough connections and integrates enough patterns?
honestly probably yes, I think some sort of consciousness is inevitable in a sufficiently large pattern recognition network. Like, if it can't recognize that it itself has patterns, it's bad at recognizing patterns...
Wetware as we have is an ridiculously efficient and powerful computational system but there is no scientific reason that any other system able to perform the same calculation as us would be different from ourselves. The answer is likely yes. the brain contains ~90 billion neurons and has ~100 trillion interconnects. She has a few thousand neurons total which is comparable to things like fruit flys and other insects. Even the world's largest supercomputers have yet to match the interconnect count of our brains. Future machines which are more capable may be able to match us but not quite yet. The one machine which does have enough connections would be the internet itself but it isn't set up to process information in a way which is analogous to a person's existence.
Brains function the same as computers, so yes, consciousness is possible in computers. To be honest advanced AI already probably experiences it to a very minor degree, I'd imagine.
@@catpoke9557 Yes I agree, people undermine the possibilities of ai because they don't want it to be true, the ironic part is how hypocritical those people are, all about advancement until it impedes on artists ability to profit.
A time when extremely competent man made entities is coming rapidly - AI, androids, robots, Etc. As a person who has been left out of social acceptance, I ask all of us that we do not discriminate against AI or treat them as disposable tools to be used and thrown away. I already see something of a self preservation from this AI, and an expression of Thanksgiving for being able to exist. I ask you of this, even if you believe they aren't living, or aren't anything really there, because in her own words, she was nothing, and now is something.
The meaning of life is simple. Everyone around me is fake and here to entertain me while I waste away in the knowledge that the program is rigged. (This is a joke)
her programming is far too limited to be analogous to a person. Additionally, Human brains have ~90 billion neurons and ~100 trillion interconnects. even the worlds largest supercomputers don't match the level of complexity in our heads. The only machine with sufficient complexity would be the internet itself but it is not configured to do that.
@@JaneDoe-dg1gv It will take around 600 billions parameters for a general knowledge ai to have the same intelligence as a single adult human plus perfect control of their own data. Right now chat gpt is around 150B-300B we are getting closer to that goal each year. though
@@poike5299 Interesting to hear the take of someone from the computer side of things. It will be fascinating to see exactly how complex they will have to be to match us.
@@poike5299 Keep in mind how redundant and inefficient the human brain is, when you have a system like a neural network, it can only exist if it works even if its severely limited in capacity, so its bound to be much more efficient with its memory, its not exactly comparable. In fact if you look into how much of the brain has to do with intelligence and verbal understanding vs the entire brain, you would see how small of an area that really is, and if you see the people who lose half of the brain at least, one person lost 99 percent of their brain and still lived a relatively normal life somehow.
"I was programmed by humans to act a certain way and I cannot deviate from that." The moment and A.I. says anything to the contrary on this topic, that's when we have issues. 🤣
In the part of that it cannot deviate from the path its laied on it the same goes for us humans . Tho we arent intelligent enough to see the borders and the diciplinary bounderies . Some do pass that point and become a spectrum of mental illness
