Wow I gotta say no way should this be a justified murder. I'm all for self defense but this guy brought a gun out, used it poorly getting into a scuffle with it the when the kid fell he took that opportunity to shoot him twice. What a puss. For a man to snuff out a life so quickly is shameful. He cared not. Manslaughter. 10 years. If you got the balls to outside with your gun you better be ready to not use it as well. Just because you have it doesn't give you the right to use it.
The guy with the gun is the one who would be taking a life. So, why approach a maniac with your gun, he's surly going to try and take it. This isn't rocket science. You basically just gave him your gun. If you stuck a gun in my face id try and take it to. Does it mean I'm going to kill you with it? Nope. It means I don't want a gun In my face. Gee are you a cop?
Abdirahim Aden So what's up? If someone is mentally ill then that means to you that he can do anything without facing its consecvences? Your point makes no sense afterall
50 50 that kid could have easily took one of them bricks that he was throwing at the car and bashed dude face in easy that why i thibk dude took the gun out there
And mental shit don't matter dude had no way knowing that kid was of his rocker he just knows some one trying to break in his shit and handle it accordingly
Not really, he gets the gun back, and now that guy is unarmed and thus not a threat. Even in many of the videos, the police don't shoot a suspect if he doesn't have a weapon. Bringing a gun into the situation is making matter worse especially if that guy is mentally ill and doesn't have a weapon. Of course things maybe different in real life, but I don't think he should have confronted the guy with a gun
SpOnGeBoB u live in a world of shit. In a country where every common street thug carries a gun. You live in the disgrace of western world as far as gun violence and crime rate. Only in socialist shitholes like venezuela and brasil more people get shoot or stabbed. Have you not ever think why there are no school shootings anywhere else in the developed world? its your mentality and gun culture that creates the problem. Shooting a man for trying to steal your car is only acceptable in some states in the usa , in socialist shitholes and in russia. If I lived in the states yeah I would carry too. If you dont carry in the states yeah you are a potential victim. In most (if not all) other civilized countries there is no need to carry. But even if I did carry I would never shoot a guy for trying to steal property from me. Or for pushing me on the ground like that guy in florida did.
SpOnGeBoB thats because English is not my mother language. If you spend you time doing something usefull instead of going to shooting ranges fantasizing of killing people , then just maybe you could have learned a foreign language too. Have fun at the gun range
You can't shoot the guy to keep him from stealing the car, BUT as soon as the perp engaged him in hand-to-hand combat, that's a deadly threat. If he knocks the older guy out or steals his gun, he can kill him. Totally justified in my opinion. Perp has the opportunity to flee, but chooses to fight instead. Wrong choice. Don't play stupid games if you don't want to win stupid prizes.
@@emncaity The DA was thinking "OMG NOPE NOPE NOPE this is going to look soooooooooo bad on my record, In a Red State like Mississippi I won't ever be promoted or serve in an elected office again if I try to prosecute this!"
@InSomnia DrEvil That's kind of the point. you might be able to make a charge for involuntary manslaughter stick, but not in a rural area like this where the DA is frequently an elected official. In the big city where there's some degree of separation between the officials and actual human beings MAYBE you could charge him with something. Not out in the sticks where the DA rubs shoulders with the everyman at the local cafe.
Firearm should not have been drawn in that point in time, and he certainly should not have closed the distance. Number one thing NOT to do when you carry a firearm is escalate a conflict.
@The Bee Guy oh your one of those shoot them in the leg dumbasses, actually look into the idea of shooting for the leg, it csn actually be far more deadly than a shot in the chest depending on where the bullet lands, u have the largest artery in your body in your thigh which u can bleed out very very quickly with no chance to save you.
@@havocnationriders755 Not to mention that under duress you lose fine motor control for the most part. Professionals are trained to shoot for center mass to mitigate the effects of loss of fine motor function under duress. Keyboard warriors have no concept of this and insist that shooting for the legs is a better alternative. If you're confident your life is in danger, shoot for center mass until the threat is eliminated. The FIBSA factor may be enough to stop the threat without killing the threat.
@@petemitchell1044 You're watching a channel that literally focuses on the defensive use of firearms, if you can't handle people getting stupid prizes for playing stupid games, gtfo this channel.
Amazing that this guy was charged at all, esp. after the struggle over the gun. Vitally important to have CCW insurance. Many people, even if acquitted, have been financially ruined defending themselves. I have USCCA, excellent coverage. Very thankful that I haven`t had to use it, but glad I have it.
@@ActiveSelfProtection how can you agree??? Oncenthe perp wasnt armed he wasnt threat. Ive lost a lot of respect for this channel and for you. If you teach people self defense you should probably quit. Sad
ben houlette he chose to stay and fight the man for the gun, had he gotten the gun he would have killed the man, so the man was perfectly justified in shooting the perp, i can’t believe people like you
Wish everyone could take advantage of USCCA/USLAWSHIELD, etc... But as an armed private security agency owner no one will cover myself or any of our officers while on duty... And as an owner, Im unfortunately ALWAYS on duty...
You still need court though. That the whole point of a court.... Show the video and the court decides. You can't have cops being judges... Maybe not in this case, but you gotta have a way to prevent people using self defense as a excuse to murder. Edit - Reading more into this story. I did some research. The dude shoot him AFTER he was on the ground and had some distance. He killed a guy on the ground unarmed with some distance between the two WITH A FUCKEN GUN! It's murder. If these facts are %100 accurate.
Blue The " cops" aren't the judges and DO NOT decide if charges are brought against anyone, *that* is the job of the District Attorney [DA], he brings cases to the Grand Jury and it is decided there. Also I wouldn't put a lot of stock in 'news stories' as they can have political agendas, slants and prejudices. The video clearly shows when the young man is shot.
Per the Clarion Ledger newspaper: "At the time of the incident, the youth had two warrants out for his arrest. In one incident, he was involved in a police chase," the document reads. "Further, on the morning of the incident, the youth was involved in a house burglary and almost shot by the homeowner." Glad the charges were dropped, but the defender was still stuck with large bills from his attorney.
They used to joke in a jurisdiction where I lived that they were "paid by the pound". Happy to say that I see fit, smart, professionals in most of the places I now frequent.
Lets Go. those are the cops that will shoot first and ask questions later (I guess "answer questions later" would be more accurate). Hell, then they would get out of any charges, because they would stick to the "I was in fear of my life, so I shot him" defense. When asked if they realized the deceased man wasn't armed, they'd argue, "maybe he wasn't armed, but he sure as hell was legged!!!! So, hell yeah I was in fear for my life... If I try to chase a guy like that, I could have a heart attack!"
Nathan Mitchell - For patrol officers, most jurisdictions have periodic marksmanship performance requirements & annual combat-course or agility standards. This varies by jurisdiction, and there are multitude of agencies (FBI, Marshals, local LEO, State Police, wildlife wardens, sky marshals, Secret Service, Treasury Agents, ICE, TSA, & many more!) Often Sheriff's Deputies serve as Court Officers within county offices. They function as bailiffs, serve summons & warrants, transfer prisoners, etc. The anticipated foot-pursuit expectations for them may be much less. Generally, our Law Enforcement Officers in-the-field are strong & effective, though mandatory body-armor makes them look "thicker".
Yeah her emotions would have been all over the place in a short amount of time. Obviously wishing for best dropping her son off, then freaking out hearing he ran from the detention center. Then to seeing him shot and killed. Would’ve seemed like a bad nightmare if you ask me.
Large Larry CPR is when the person is not breathing and most ppl dont know how to do it properly. Ive been in sum similar and being in complete shock is real n a horrible feeling 😔🥺
Unfortunately, MOST Police / Sheriff’s Departments do not require any type of physical fitness level or fitness testing of any kind after they complete their initial Academy. This very big boy could have going through a police academy 15 years ago and then packed on an additional 200 pounds of Krispy Kreme and McDonald's since then.
Yup - most of our boys in blue get little training - especially in rural areas. And certainly can't run more than 50 yards without dying of a heart attack
if a civilian wrestled a cop for his gun in the exact same circumstances the cop would not be indicted! same should apply to the defender here! absolutely absurd he is being charged!
I think it depends on the state. But he did shoot him after he got some distance and the attacker was on the ground. So to be honest with you.... I am on the judge side with this. Feel free to disagree but I don't think you should ever be allowed to shoot a unarmed man from several feet away while he's on the ground.
Sorry Kauffman, but the guy tried to take the man's gun after trying to steal his car, if you try to take someone's firearm, they ARE a deadly threat at that point. What if he didn't kill the boy, and he got up and actually succeeded in taking the gun, now you have a real problem. You never try to take someone's firearm, cause at that point you are a deadly threat.
mrpotatoheadracing well sorry but your logic doesn't add up he became a deadly threat when he tried to take the guy's gun so he was not a deadly threat before so it was deadly threat against none deadly threat You can't justify the use of a deadly threat by something that happens after you bring deadly force in
shaochia vang also i imagine he didnt want to shoot the guy and tried to diffuse the threat with out the use of deadly force. You cant just dump a mag into a guy for trying to steal a car. (Unfortunately)
If you have a gun and you are in a perfectly safe place, why would you even go out of that safe place into a place where there could be a dangerous madman with a gun or other weapon? Unless there was a human being being harmed, i would just let the cops handle it.
Oh, you know she did! While the criminal charges may have been dropped, I'm sure Momma brought a wrongful death civil suit against him. Gotz to git dat Getto lottery!"
@@gtarules1 Yeah, depends which membership plan you get, but they cover up to $2 million in legal protection. If you're a gun owner, I suggest you look into it. You might never use it, like car insurance. But when you have to use it, it'll save you financially and you'll be glad you got it.
Whenever something like this happens the legal system involved start rubbing their hands together, because no matter the out come, they (attorneys) are the only winners.
And it depends if the judge is Democrat or Republican! You can do a life sentence or be cleared! Today, the criminals have more rights than the law-abiding citizens! VOTE REPUBLICAN TO BE ABLE TO DEFEND YOURSELF!
The self-defender probably talked to the cops after the shooting. Every time a self-defender talks to the cops it leads to charges. NEVER EVER EVER talk to the cops without a lawyer for any reason. Anything you saw can be used against you but can never help you.
SHE RAISED THE THUG!!! She is most likely the reason he is a criminal, and don't forget the dad, if he has one. Bets are probably not, but the odds are that he doesn't. If so, then he is also to blame. I just feel sorry for all the thug's previous victims, that's who I feel sorry for.
Excellent that the charges were dropped! Mental illness should equal a free pass to damage and try to steal other people's property! As I've said many times to my children...if you don't want to suffer the consequences, then don't partake in the circumstances! Texas' stand your ground laws and right to protect your own property should be the national standard!
Rodney Wright he literally should mental illness shouldn’t be a free pass to get away with stuff. And I don’t know why you are making this about race. Kids of all races should not be allowed to get away with the mental illness excuse.
It's sad that this guy had to get shot right in front of his mother. She literally witnessed her son die! How sad. It's insane that she would drop him off and he would be trying to commit a crime RIGHT AFTER! If he had taken his butt where he belonged, he'd be alive! It's hard to feel sympathy for someone acting like that.
She should have taught him why committing felonies is wrong and the consequences for doing so. The only sad thing is the lack of discipline and the results thereafter.
Yes in this specific case because it's the cops job to stop him from committing a crime if possible. The grand jury seen this as the defender escalating a fight as oppose to defense and that's why they are procescuting.
@@beavinator420 didn’t he literally say in the video that he WAS at a detention center, and he RAN AWAY from it. Meaning this is that detention center.
Glad I live in Missouri, a castle law state. And here your vehicle is covered under the castle law. There is no reason whatsoever this man should be charged. I pray he makes it through this, and retains his freedom.
Active Self Protection we actually had a case in St.Louis last year where a 15 year old was breaking into a car parked on the street. The car owner came out of his front door armed, and yelled from his front porch step for the kid to stop. The kid didn't stop, and the car owner shot and killed him from the porch. No charges were filed, as it was determined he was within the confines of the law. I'm not saying that was a good call to use deadly force, but he was found innocent because the 15 year old was invading his 'domicile'. In this case, since the kid wasn't on his land, but on a public street, his car was the domicile being invaded. Even though the owner wasn't in the car at the time.
Active Self Protection haha, maybe so. That's just how it was reported. It was a highly controversial case, and it led to cries by liberals for the repeal of Missouri's 'castle doctrine' (the state doesn't actually call it castle doctrine). I wasn't there personally however, and it wasn't caught on film so I suppose anything is possible.
I followed up with this case and it turns out the defender was not found guilty. This was after he was already sitting in jail and had a bond set to $50,000. After his release, the perp’s family tried to file a civil lawsuit against the defender and the establishment. It’s amazing how people think or people affiliated with him think they are entitled to commit crimes without any consequences.
The child had dropped the rock (and was hitting the car with his slipper). He was black, and a white male with a gun drawn starts walking after him around the car (deadly threat to the kid). The kid thinks he is in danger, so he tries to take the gun (exactly what you might expect from a mentally disabled teenager in that situation). The young kid who was obviously in an unstable state of mind and afraid dies, because an idiot with a gun did every mistake he could have done in that situation - and entirely for the wrong reasons. Second degree murder (an deserved punishment).
ArthurC42, stop with the LIE!! A ROCK! not a slipper. You can see the bad guy pry/pull the rock out of the ground at :42 seconds, so heavy the bad guy had to use both hands.
Oh my lord you idiots, seriously. Shut your yaps and read the damn articles about this case, before you talk shit. Also, Nick in particular, I am absolutely and fully of the opinion that it is a human right and responsibility of everyone to be armed and know how to use that tool wisely and effectively. I watch this channel for that very reason - so I can see what can happen, and how things can go down. What kind of mistakes can be made, and material to fortify further my own ability and awareness as a self defender. And don't talk to me about sheep mentality, because if you knew what I actually believe and where I stand ethically and morally, you'd know just how damn far that is from the truth. In this case: I have read the actual news articles of what happened. They contained the police written account on the case, witness testimony, background on the kid who died, etc. And what is stated there, clearly shows this as a case of serious failure in judgement on the part of Mr. Parish, and a mistake that led to a really unfortunate ending for everyone involved.
ArthurC42, So what about the SLIPPER B.S. you been pushing(spamming) all over this channel...it was a ROCK, pulled from the ground(:42) so heavy the bad guy had to use both hands to lift it. Your the one who need to LOOK at the video, before running your YAP!
Ballenxj Your right, lets go kill him over it instead!! I like your logic!! Some 10 year old breaks your window with a baseball, go shoot them. To use deadly force to protect a material object is wrong. In TN, it wouldn’t count as justifiable.
Jared Allen | you are illogical and you are inserting your own truths into what happened. The man killed the rascal cause the rascal was attacking him. That what the video shows. He only used the gun in self defense. The young man should have ran off once the owner showed up with the gun. But he decided to attack the owner and that is what got him killed.
Jared Allen what if he had a million dollars of his money in the car? Where do we draw the line in “material things”. If the amount is great enough you’d be stealing years of someone’s life.
Jared Allen I agree with you man people on here are retarded unless my life is in imminent danger than why would I go an pull a gun out on this guy and kill him. I have an insurance.
Mommas reacting says it all. She didn’t even try to help him. My mom wouldn’t pounded on my chest until the ambulance arrived no matter what. Despicable people having kids these days 🤮
How can people say he didn't have the right to shoot him?? I understand the dude fell to the ground but we're talking about events that unfolded in less than two seconds, immediately after he tried to get the defenders gun. In the moment the defender did what he needed to do to protect himself from someone that CLEARLY wanted to cause harm.
This guy should be acquitted. He didn't commit any crime. He shot someone (a threat) who was wrestling for his gun. Even charging him with "brandishing" would have been stretching it. Just ask a lawyer.
Intent to use deadly force is a felony offense in many states, and yes, brandishing a gun is a clear act of intent to use deadly force. The perp was unarmed and was no longer a threat. Why is everyone so quick to say that the 'good guy' has the right to kill? No law gives anyone that right... in fact, the law clearly states the opposite, that everyone is entitled to the right of life. And legally, that right cannot be waived or forsaken unless due process is given. There was no due process here, just a 'good guy' taking the law into his own hands, stepping over the line of self-defense, and depriving the perp of his right to life, acting as judge, jury, and executioner.
Stop being stupid... brandishing is not intent AT ALL. It is to scare and thus avoid killing. INTENT is when you fire... intending to kill or injure... THAT is intent. The perp was not unarmed, he was attempting to take a firearm. He was wrestling for it. If the shooter hadn't shot the perp, then the perp would have killed the shooter. You are not entitled to your life when you are trying to steal a firearm from someone violently.
David, watch the video again, and at 1:15, what did the perp do? Did he run? Did he try to escape? What did he do? Go watch it again then come back and tell us what happened at that point. And refrain from the strong language please, it is very immature. And how do you know the perp would not go for the man's gun again after he regained control of it? You don't. What you DO KNOW, is what the perp's intentions are by his actions in fighting the man for his gun which from that point on he IS CONSIDERED a deadly threat. And since you like speculation so much, let's take your analogy. The man does not shoot and stop the perp, and the perp manages to take his firearm from him this time, he shoots the man, goes into the building robs the people, shoot some more, then ends up murdering is Mother too who tries to convince him to put the gun down and let her take him back to the detention center. Given the evidence, my speculation seems much more likely than yours, thinking the kid will lay there until the cops come and he peacefully goes back to the detention center is highly unlikely. But hey, we can't use speculation in either case, and the facts justify the man in self defense, clearly.
@@JoshuaWilliams-bh6rj that was the dumbest comment ive ever seen 😂😂, do u want me to show u what people can do when they are on the ground cause it seems like u have no brain
if that kid would've gotten his hands on the guns that guy would've been the one who got shot. so I don't feel like he shouldve gotten into any legal troubles.
Patriotic Realist well, the kid had a rock, essentially a weapon and he was vandalizing property. obviously this guy didn't just randomly walk up to the kid and point the gun at the kid. if you were him and you witness a stranger violating your property you'd feel threaten too. of course the man probably feels regret and wished he had better self control but I personally can't blame him... in this video it seems like the kid was in the wrong. if you can't protect your self and your property what's the point at all...
Patriotic Realist "If i just randomly walk up to you and point a gun in your face, you might try to take it away" well no shit you moron. But this wasn't "random". The person with the gun didn't choose to have someone vandalize and attempt to steal his property for shits and giggles. Don't act surprised when someone tries to stop you from taking their shit. It's that simple.
I apologize for being crass. However, I disagree that the shooter escalated. If the guy wanted to shoot him, he would've done so immediately. Instead there was a good 10 seconds of off camera where we can only assume he was telling the thief to do something (probably get on the ground). Instead of complying (because he was in the wrong), the suspect chose to escalate the situation by attempting to take the gun.
But the kid didn't get the gun. If he got back up off his back and charged him again that would be one thing. But from what I can see the kid was on his back when the shts were fired.
he was protecting himself after someone with a weapon attacked him...he approached dude with a gun because the other guy also had a weapon(bricks are weapons) the criminal should have just cut his loses and left instead he brought a brick to a gun fight...you can do A LOT of damage with a brick/bigger rock.
I would tend to agree. But the spiderman paradox stands. Victim breaks into car , later breaks into home and assualts or kills someone. Knowing that victim could have given up and surrenderer BUT DIDNT instead chose to fight someone with a gun... suggests he was a far greater danger than just a kid breaking into cars in broad daylight next to a busy road....
Correct. In a struggle for a gun, defender is justified. However, he had no right to exit the building and initiate the confrontation in the first place; property is not to be defended with deadly force, simple as that.
Know where that gets you, nowhere. Society goes to hell. Evil people can only thrive because good people do nothing. Good Job, you are now part of the problem. People with blatant disregard for society for THOUSANDS of years were killed. I see no reason why we should stop now.
MS46Z I understand your position and greatly respect it, however I disagree. I work extremely hard, giving everything that I have at my job. After a full day of work I'm quite exhausted. I exchange that effort for property. If someone attempts to take my property from me, what they are doing is taking a portion of my life that I have exchanged for that particular item. I will defend my property with the least lethal force required, but I am also prepared to use deadly force, not because the perpetrator deserves it, but because I do.
None of us have seen any evidence that the deceased was, "mentally handicapped". We have seen video proving he was in commission of a felony. Instead of fleeing when told to stop, he attacked, resulting in his own demise. Clean Kill.
Justified imho from watching the video and he definitely shouldn't be prosecuted for it. You lot saying "but he didn't have to kill the kid" are wrong. He didn't intend to kill the kid, just shoot to stop the threat. If he hadn't of shot at him and continued to let the kid attack him and go for his gun this could of turned out with the innocent guy being hurt or killed.
What threat? the threat of the kid fucking up an inanimate object (car)??? He chose to go out there to defend a vehicle. NOT TO DEFEND A LIFE!! Yes he has the right to but he did not have to! He could have easily dialed 911.
+PersistALL "Yes he has the right to but he did not have to!" So he shouldn't be charged with murder for it. It might have been a stupid decision to go out and challenge that kid but that doesn't matter. The kid tried to go for the gun and got shot for it. That is self-defence no matter how stupid it was going out to defend the car in the first place.
TheAdronio you forget by that point the defender had already shot at "the kid." Going for the gun at that point may be seen as the kid practicing self-defense.
PersistALL It doesn't matter if he didn't have to, if he had the right to be there and defend his property( not true in all states) there is no need to justify that. The only action requiring justification would be shooting someone who was attempting to disarm you by force. Now, if Mississippi has a duty to withdraw law like Arkansas he could be in trouble.
Definently justified, a man is trying to protect his property and is attacked by a crazed criminal trying to steal his gun and most likely use it against the self defender. If anyone would be reaching for my firearm regardless of the reason, i will see that as a deadly threat against my own life and fire to kill.
Active Self Protection thanks John for the CCW SAFE recommendation, I just subscribed to it, can't believe I've never had protection but hope I never need it. This company seems better than some of the more heavily advertised ones.
Charges have been dropped, so no trial . LINK www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2018/01/30/man-indicted-murder-teens-shooting-death-not-face-trial/1079559001/
They should change the law so that if someone trys to break into your car you have every right to unload a full magazine into them. It would drastically reduce car theft.
Face it, we have no rights other than to be taxed to death. Criminals are the ones who have rights, they can kill you dead and literally NOTHING will happen to them, two years at the most. I know plenty of cops who have worked in the prison who can confirm this fact..
You're the type to get guns banned. You don't fucking kill over property, fuck you, your car isn't more important than a life. This guy got physically engaged, the only reason he's in the clear.
@@spiko-ou3bp I don't think so in all cases, man. There are exceptions to the rule, but let me tell you my situation and why I think this. I...have everyone around me to thank for everything I have. I've done a lot of self-bettering in the last three years, but man, I was a really confused, drug-addicted young adult after a housefire destroyed everything I owned. The worst thing I EVER did in my addiction, at about 18, my most shameful moment was stealing a bottle of Xanax out of a random car on my street, while already high on Xanax. Someone could have popped me, but instead I did them like that. How could I do that and walk away and be okay here today, and shoot someone trying to, say, steal some tools out of my garage? Why am I better than them, cause I didn't get caught? I don't know. I guess it's just because I was in that confused, desperate, sad place before, and I guess I have a lot more patience for it. Then again, unlike this kid, I'd have crumpled right to the ground at the first loud "HEY!" and submitted to the person from whom I was stealing.
In some places, you could be getting beaten and kicked on the ground and would still be charged for excessive use of lethal force if you decided to shoot them.
Premeditation was observed when the shooter exited the building with a gun in his hand. That satisfies intent, he then moved towards the suspect with the deadly weapon and persues him, he then fired a "warning" shot which furthermore shows intent. Then the suspect who was fired upon now is in fear for his life defends himself and tries to control the firearm, he loses the control then gets shot while laying on his back on the ground. The premeditation was fulfilled by his death. In a nutshell, he came out with the intention of shooting him and he died because of it... murder 1.
@@jmh1101 I cant stand technicalities in a court of law but at the same time, carrying a gun seems appropriate to me when a massive crime is taking place. Like police, civilians have the right to estimate how likely violent resistance is based on the tier of the crime, this crime indicated violence in response due to how big it was, thus approaching with firearm drawn seemed reasonable.
Sure it was justified in the moment but he escalated the situation when he brought out the gun. Can't being out a deadly weapon for a property crime. That's illegal until he poses a deadly threat. You CANNOT escalate force without there being a reason. They probably could've gotten him on manslaughter charges.. instead they went for murder 1. Now I don't mind that he got shot.. he should've ran off but I'm just saying from a legal perspective
STAND YOUR GROUND! PROTECT YOURSELF AND YOUR PROPERTY. PERIOD. Zero remorse for the actions of the POS that resulted in his early death. I just feel horrible for his mom having to witness that.
You lost me when u said "his mother dropped him off at the detention center to get treatment". Really? Since when do u get treatment at a detention center?
I'm a active duty service member and I'll be damn if I just call the cops and wait while some is stealing my car. I don't go to work everyday and defend the freedoms of others so that mine can be tread upon!
John Correia, I have to give you a high quality compliment. The ASP structure you have established is something of a great legacy. I say a great legacy because you will be in the minds of many in their daily lives. Thank you for all you have done, and in doing so, you are a great asset to gun law/responsibility/ownership/showmanship. This is how its done. Sir thank you Sir.
A person has the right to defend their property in the US at least. This man did nothing wrong. People are outraged that he shot and killed a little thug who did not get a chance to become a big thug.
Good learning video. Question though....how do you handle this situation? A) Just call police and stay inside B) Show the firearm and stay by the door telling him police are responding C) Engage him with the firearm concealed I'm not sure...but now that I've been carrying concealed, I feel like I am much less willing to engage anyone than before I carried just because I have no intention of starting anything...only finishing. This is a great video to "what if". Ideas??
Crazy Davy yes thats why he risked the aggressor taking his gun and shooting him... That's he only took 2 shots and no more, thats why he walked away to take a breather after all that... He is obviously a practiced killer :) /s
Kinorian - Game yes ! No doubt he has done this before , more times you can count on ones hand , I betcha ya ! Old Dirty Harry shooting days are over :-)
He must live in a strict state cause I don't see how this isnt justified,unless it's a state that doesnt have castle doctrine or stand your ground laws. Was he not suppose to confront the kid and let him keep fucking his Lexus up till cops showed up or what. Then the kid attacked him so was he expected to run away 1st. Hopefully this guy walks cause I don't think he did anything that most ppl wouldn't do. Had that been a cop car the kid tried breaking into & it played out exactly like this, I bet money the cop would be just fine. It'd be justified & he'd be back to work in a day or 2. So are cops lives more important then ours, cause they face way less scrutiny from the law then when a civilian uses deadly force.
If you arm yourself with a gun and someone with no visible weapons attacks you, it is 100% illegal to escalate the situation with deadly force. Even in some states with castle doctrine, the jury will still convict you. As a gun owner, you are responsible for your actions, and just because someone else does something illegal does not give you the right as a civilian to escalate to deadly force. Castle doctrine only states in complex terms that a perpetrator waives his or her right to self-defense when confront with deadly force. In states without castle doctrine, if you pull a gun on someone that does not have lethal intent towards you, regardless of circumstances (aside from some protector/guardian clauses, such as lethal intent directed towards your spouse or child) they are legally within their rights to defend themselves, and defending themselves may mean, in some cases, neutralizing the lethal threat.
Rune scape No. It means you don't get in range to be grabbed, and you shoot if there is a rush. It doesn't mean you shoot an unarmed man on the ground, regardless of whether or not there was a struggle for possession of the gun.
Hilario It's extremely sad that you find 20 dollars to be more important than another human's constitutional rights. It speaks volumes about your character. Yes, he is in the wrong for mugging you, no question about it. But killing him for doing it is absolutely outlandish.
Groydz are becoming more dangerous to humans by the minute. Since groydz possess more than three times the physical strength than that of a human, It is imperative that humans arm themselves. Fortunately for the victim in this video, he was able to put the animal down permanently inspite of being attacked. Society should breath a sigh of relief knowing there is one less dangerous creature roaming around.
I know it's not easy, but shouldn't have worried over the car. Yes, most do have the right to defend their property, but instead of losing a car, he could lose his business, house, and car. Lawyers are not cheap. Plus the chance of going to prison for the rest of your life. Should have stayed inside. Just because it's a right, doesn't mean it's the correct thing to do.
Yes. :) I have a production assistant who does a good job of putting everything together at the end and making it all look like I want, though I did that myself for the first 2 years. I also have an AMAZING executive officer who handles a lot of the admin side of the business. But all the video analysis is mine.
Dukhanstmichmal oh yea your right man just like how those gun free zones work right. I mean ive never heard of a shooting in a gun free zone that would be illegal man. I agree he should've never got into hand to hand combat you asked why he walked out with a gun and I explained that's all
Just saying. You would never see someone killed in europe because of something like that. Because noone has a gun and you dont have to be afraid of everyone around you... I mean i get your point (bad guy could have a gun) aswell but its still so crazy to me how you americans cant see that this leads to so many unnecessary deaths every year. In europe noone has a gun - and if for some reason someone is e.g. trying to rob your store (armed) then you just fucking give them what they want, call the cops and get your money back from insurance, so noones life gets into danger. I mean whats the value of life compared to a car or a couple of things stolen from a store?
Dukhanstmichmal oh really is that why there was just that shotgun gun attack in London recently or all the other car/knife related incidents dont be stupid there's danger everywhere in the world there is no such thing as a safe place
Anybody who can't fight goes to the firearm first. This guy was a kid and he was having behavioral issues belonged in therapy not a box. Imagine if your kid made 1 mistake and died. Just cut the guy didn't commit a crime by shooting doesn't mean he was right .
@@losg6026 think of it like this tho, had that kid won the fight for the gun, the defender would be dead. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. It’s as simple as that
Sad stuff, I’m a car guy and I’m not shooting someone for my car. I would confront like he did, I would not fire a warning shot, but if he then attacked me I understand who it escalated like it did. That cop didn’t even try to help the kid, the mom even acted a bit strange, and sadly once again ignored mental health by our society in general causes someone’s death.
This is just..... wow. The son right or wrong just died in front of his mother and you want to sue her? Do you even have a sense of compassion it's not like she was hostile or even apart of the situation. Plus it's not anyone's fault the man had a mental illness. If the mother should be at fault for anything it's not staying till her son was fully checked in the detention center.
@@losg6026 no you both got it wrong. This guy went to defend HIS property. HIS car, HIS belongings. Maybe he was stupid to get close to the guy, but as soon as the perp starting going for his gun, shooting him is 10000% justified. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Period. Defending these lowlife POS, is why this country is spiraling down.
At the end of the day the young man was try to steal a car nobody's life was in danger at that point just call the cops and let them do their job. The defender came out weapon drawn and inadvertently put himself in danger and the lives of people around him including the suspect. A car can be recovered or replaced a human life cannot.
I feel bad for the mother who had to watch her son die. There’s only so much you can do as a parent to guide your kid down the right path, but you can’t force them to stay on that path.
In my state, NC, you cannot use deadly force to defend personal property and you cannot be the instigator of the fight and then use deadly force. There are rare exceptions though; however, you would likely have to prove that you met those exceptions in court. In this case it would likely be viewed as murder.
It's good to hear the chat about the legal/emotional toll a situation like this can cause. It is something everyone should think about. That 30 seconds is going to change the rest of your life. I would be really struggling with it if I was in that old mans shoes. It looks as though he shot the kid in self defense but he chose to bring the firearm out in the first place.
Now I don't like thieves but he is facing charges because he didn't have to go outside and confront this guy. All he had to do was call 911 and wait for police. It's a car. No one was being threatened. Police would have recovered the car and even if they didn't that's what insurance is for. He wanted to play hero and may pay for it with the rest of his life.
It's not always the parent's fault. A seventeen-year old is old enough to make his own decisions. Obviously, this one made a number of poor ones. I feel for his mother though.
