Ok, so I followed this step by step, and outside of swearing a few times, everything works like new. Even tuned it up with the money saved on shop labor. You saved me a ton of coconuts, Thanks!
Thanks Brother...Your videos are showing kids how to do it right. I've been a small engine mechanic for over 50 years, and Yours are the best no BS methods. That is THE way to change a wasted drive belt. I know because I've done em all. Keep on wrenching. I subscribed because You're a good man. Take care. -Smythie
this was one of the clearest repair videos I've seen. You make sure to get the camera angles into where it's easy to see what you're showing. Nice job.
You do not need to remove the wheels to get to the bolts to remove the plastic guard, under the mower, just unlatch the height adjusters and move it either way
@@TheJimbo2210 That might be one way of doing it, but this way only takes a few minutes anyway. I don't see how you can get the belt off without removing that plastic guard. I think it's half a dozen of one and 6 of another...😊
Thanks for the belt replacement tips, I was stuck as to how to proceed. My belt didn't break, the drive shaft was rust seized but I want to replace the belt also.
I appreciate the comment... I think I heard a wise man say once “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time!"
Couple questions if you please. My Lawnboy is a model 10732. Does the transmission need to be greased/oiled? Mine makes a grinding noise - maybe I have the cable to tight? I was unable to get to your description to get the additional information? Thanks
HI James... No If I remember right the transmission is not meant to be oiled. If you think the cable is to tight just squeeze the self propelled handle just enough to engage the wheels but don't squeeze it all the way.. This will simulate a looser cable. IF you still have the noise, you may have something wrong with the drive-train. I would pull the wheels off first and see if there's anything obviously wrong in there. It could be something in the wheels and not the whole transmission assy...
Yikes !! Didn't start off well when you blew off that first wheel. Epic Lawn Boy failure in design regarding belt replacement. What a joke! Thanks for sharing. Saves us a couple hundred bucks for the DIY'ers.
Great great video thank you I followed every step and I have this model lawn boy model 10641 belt is Toro Part Number; 110-9429 after I finished the wire becam too long or too saggy it's not bullying is there any way to tighten that TIA
I just did this operation but I used a 30" belt. The mower starts and stays in self propulsion mode (cant come out of it). I wasn't able to get my hands on the Toro 110-9429 today, but was wondering the size of it - Is it a 32' by any chance? Anyway Thanks for the tutorial!
HI, you'd have to look up the part number to the belt and see if it shows what length it is. I don't know just off hand. Yes, if it's stuck in self propelled mode, then the belt is to short.
About 1.5 months ago, we talked in your comment section. My mower is AWD and has 2 belts (mower model 17739).I took pictures but should have taken more, as I forget which belt goes on the upper pulley on the blade shaft and which goes to the lower pulley. Lawnboy.com sent the wrong belt, twice, for the mower, once to me and then the dealer. I can’t find a repair manual showing the process. Debating on gathering all parts and dropping off at service center but labor rate is $85 an hour. If So much time hadn’t’t lapsed, I believe I would have remembered what went where. Lesson learned, takes more pictures if you need to. Using your video and belt number for the rear transmission and will try assembly that way by also looking at your pulley height to see where the belt rides on the pulley. Ay try AWD function without blade for safety.
I so enjoyed you showing what I can do for myself, however I do not have a lawnboy, but a AAvix and I can not find any parts for this machine, have you ever heard of such name for a lawn mower, and if so where or how can I get my hands on parts.???
At 8: 25 you started to put the wheel back on.At 8:27,it's on.My problem was how'd you get the fastner screw UNDER the wheel to catch? as i can"t figure it out.How'd you do it?
I was just holding the bolt with my hand. At 8:20 you can see it sticking through the center of the wheel. There was nothing to see where I cut the video. It was just putting the wheel on and tightening the bolt. Is that what you mean?
HI, if you go to a website like www.partstree.com you can plug in the model number at the top. That'll give you the parts breakdown and from there you'll see the part number for the belt...
In order to get the belt out, its hard to take the 3 screws out. It looks the screws are square shape drive instead of cross shape drive screw, are they? In your video, lt looks very easy to get them out, what kind of screw driver you are using? Thanks
I don't remember which size, but looking at the video they're a Torx type. Probably a T15 or T20. It's a six sided star bit that is quite common..I'm just not positive of the actual size
Great video Rudy - Look, I have the AWD front & rear wheel drive. I think the front axle gearbox is bad, but the rear wheels seem to work if the front wheels are raised off the ground. Do you think I can remove the front belt & just use it as a rear wheel drive?
If there's two belts, yes absolutely... If the front wheels cause any drag, as they sometimes to, you might be able to remove the wheels and remove the cog that engages the wheels to the transmission, and that should free them up.
Rudy - I have a ROVER 75M93 self-propelled battery start mower very much like the Lawn Boy - it is not driving as strong as it use to, so I replaced the belt and adjusted the cable but its still the same - is there a clutch inside the gearbox which may be the problem ?
No probably not.. usually there's some way to adjust the cable to tighten the belt a little more. If you close the handle for self propelled does it close real easy? Usually there's a spring on the cable itself. If that cable isn't pulling a little bit on that spring, it's to loose and the belt won't tighten up enough.
Sometimes the grease in the wheel will gum up... or it could be rust. You'll have to remove the wheel and clean everything up and put just a light coating of grease on the axle... Here's one video I did on this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OF1KYP8NPv8.html I also did an older one.
Thanks for the easy to follow video! However, now, after replacing the belt, I can't get the mower to start. It had about a half tank of fuel when I tipped it to get to the underside stuff. Is that what is the problem now? If so, how do I fix that?
Arrgh... check the air filter and make sure it didn't get soaked with oil... or pull the spark plug out and make sure it's not soaked with gas or something.. depending on which way you tip it, you can cause oil to go into muffler, or carburetor.. It sounds like something like that.
Take a Bath Productions yeah. Kind of figured it was something along those lines. Went back about an hour later and it started on the first pull. Thanks!
This mower doesn't have the variable speed feature. If you have one that specifically has that feature, you would increase the distance between the self propel bar and the handle.
@@RotaryTeamVincent I don't know, I don't have one over here to look at. If it works like a lawn tractor, there's a pulley with a variable ratio when You shift gears, your just changing the ratio on the pulley. I imagine if the belt slipped when you slow it down, it would wear the belt out quite a bit faster, but it could be that's how they got it.
@@JLPicard440 Yes, I am thinking the same as you. The model is same as one you used in your video and no variable ratio pulley. So I cannot see how it can be variable as they advertise.
How you take out that pivot arm where the wheel bolt is screwed in? The wheel keeps falling off because the threads from that pivot are damaged. Bought the pivot but i have no ideea how to take off the bad one out. Help! Thx
My self propelled lawn boy (model 10732) was having an issue when I tried to go backwards. The wheels kept locking up and I was basically dragging it. So I removed the wheels, took sandpaper and cleaned any dirt/rust/corrosion off the rod. Then I lubed everything up and put grease on all the gears. Now I don't have any issues and the wheels move freely in both directions. However, now I notice (and maybe a coincidence) a noise by the wheels when going up a hill almost like it's slipping and not engaging. On a flat surface it's fine. Any ideas? Could it have been any of the grease, wd-40 or silicone spray I used on everything??
The grease shouldn't have caused this. It could be that there's a plastic ring gear inside most plastic wheels. I wonder if one of the teeth are broken? If it's not that, the metal gear that comes from the mower usually has a pin thru it if you pull the gear off. That pin needs to move back and fourth freely.. it could be that too. It's hard to describe in this message here, so hopefully this made sense.
@@JLPicard440 if I remember correctly, the wheel has metal gears inside it that sides onto the shaft assembly which also has a metal gear (held on with an E-ring) followed by a plastic sleeve. That sleeve was super dirty and had wear marks on it. I tried to sand it down smooth the best I could and sprayed everything with silicone spray.
@@skutsenkow Yes you should be able to take that metal gear.. the smaller one held on with a E-clip and turn it one way and it turns freely, turn it the other way and it's locked to the axle.. did you try that? If it doesn't behave that way, it's because that small pin that's exposed when you pull the e-clip off and then the gear isn't moving freely inside that shaft..
@@JLPicard440 I don't recall how the smaller gear turned. I had remember applying some grease and it moved freely. Not sure I remember seeing any "pin". Are you saying it should only turn one way?
@@skutsenkow I can't remember for sure on this particular model, but normally the wheel should only engage in one direction. It makes it easier to pull it backwards when your working with a hill..
Thanks for the video, but something was missing, all of the swear words, lol. I am a much better wood worker than a mechanic, hence, the occasional swears but I think I can handle this. Subscribed and Liked, also, thanks for the part number. mine is a Model # 17739, so I will double check it before ordering because I don't know the year or exact model of yours but it looks the same as mine. Now I just need to make it to store and back without contacting Covid-19. Wish me luck.
LOL... No, I try to keep things rated "G". U could always order the part from Amazon, it'll probably be cheaper and there's virtually no risk of getting sick... :-). But If you need it up and running quick and you have a local parts store, that would work out better since they have been shipping slow lately.. arrgh.
My parts came and I wondered if I need to drain oil & gas,as it looks. Like yours mower is standing upright with the discharge opening on the ground. Thanks
Possibly the belt is stretched out a little. There could be something bent though, take a look and make sure all the pulleys are lined up before you order a belt. Is there linkage to tighten the belt? I don't remember. If it's releasing the belt to much and it's to loose when not engaged that would make it come off too.
Thank you Rudy! Great help you gave us! Is your Lawnboy a Model 10685, Serial 270008330? I discovered with you the best covers on mine are missing (bought it used). So while looking in eBay for them, they're several and different than yours. Yet your mower looks similar to mine so maybe they're the same model and serial, so I think my covers have to be like yours.
HI, I don't have that mower anymore... Is there any part of the video that happens to show the model number on mine? I don't remember... I guess your model sticker must be gone or torn so It can't be read... :-(
@@JLPicard440 I can read my model 10685, but my desk looks more like the 10734 all round metal bottom where the blade is, not as the one you shown which had a plástico second back under cover. Thank you for responding. Lets see if I find a belt cover/gyard long enough that reaches the back metal round wall.
@@rodolfoplasencia4953 Arrgh... I am not sure on that one.. if your tag says 10685 have u looked up the parts breakdown on that one? does it look like yours?
@@JLPicard440 Rudy I did, and I still feel the 10734 may reach the edge of the metal wall mine has instead of the second plastic cover you removed protecting the transmission. The ones that appear for the 10685 look shorter to me. Is ok, I'll keep on looking. Maybe is my point of appreciation, I can be wrong but I see the belt guards/covers for 10685 too short. Anyways, I may try one to see how it works. Thank you for all your help brother!
Maybe order the part u need from Amazon? Reason is, they have a pretty good return policy... if you get the wrong one, you can send it back.. if you get it from ebay it's a bit more of a hassle... I would go with what the model number says first if it was me..
@@timetobeast7261 Oh sorry for the confusion. I don't have access to this mower anymore. The sticker with the model number is visible at 1:54, but I can't read the model number..
It's possible, or it could be a bad wheel or gear. I would take off the wheel that isn't turning and see if there's anything in there to see that looks bad..
@@JLPicard440 , I did take the wheel off before I sent this message and nothing appears out of line, could the belt be slipping enough just to turn 1 wheel?
My 10515 lost 3rd gear and is losing 2nd, with a rhythmic grinding preceding loss of gear. It still runs fine in first, but shifting is a bit stiff. I figure this is either a slipping pinion gear (in the trans, not the wheels) or shift keys, any idea which is more common or more likely? What are the most common and likely failures in the Lawn Boy 3 speed gearbox?
I've never actually had one of those here for me to work on. I looked up the parts breakdown and there are three different gears inside of there with a pinion in common. There's a shifting mechanism that moves the gears from one gear to the next, sliding on a shaft I think. (From what I can see in the pics). If it was mine, I'd take it apart and see what's up.... it's already broke so you can't make it much worse! Sorry, I wish I had a better answer for you. It'll probably become obvious what's wrong, one you get to see inside. If you want to see the parts breakdown, plug that model into www.partstree.com is where I found it. www.partstree.com/models/10415-lawn-boy-gold-series-walk-behind-mower-sn-005900001-005999999-1995/gear-case-ass-y-model-no-10515-10520-6/
@@JLPicard440 Thanks. I saw the diagram and have taken off the pan, but should have removed the ring gear to get a better look at the pinion, but was assuming at the time that it was probably the shift pins. The mower is 20 miles away from my web access, so I decided to put it back together and go learn more from the web. but now I'm thinking the sounds are more consistent with pinion than with shift keys. If I can find similar symptoms on the web, I might go ahead and order parts, but as is, I think I will take it farther apart without ordering parts. Even if the pinion was slipping, I might be able to close the gap with an added washer behind the ring gear, mow the lawn, and then consider ordering parts.
Yep. I've never seen one like that with actual different gears. Riding tractors use a pulley system that slips to enlarge the diameter or shrink it for the different gears. The transmission itself is only one speed.
@@JLPicard440 I saw the Snapper system last year for the first time, which looks like an old record player, but with a wheel instead of a needle. I imagined exactly that back in high school in 1983 when I first read in a car magazine about continuously variable transmissions. Tho only thing that makes Snappers not CVT is the notches in the handle. Looks like great practice for students, before tackling cars. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mEbDvPTP2PU.html
No way to change the gears... but if you look at the carburetor there's a spring there... usually the spring is attached to a tab, you should be able to bend that tab and slow the engine down a little... you'll have to do it while the engine is running so you can hear what's going on. Obviously be careful not to put your fingers or anything else near any moving parts!... Like a blade for example....
Ugh, seriously? No, not your video. The process. You shouldn't make it sound so straight forward. Basically, step one is to disassemble the lawn mower 🤦🏿♂️