Self Taught Programmers... Listen Up. 

I love that dude! Best of luck bro.

Good luck, mate, its crazy how motivated u r!!!

props to you man, do what you like

#youinspireme!!! Thank you 🥰

I work in Silicon Valley and my boss is 60 some years old. He programs better than any of our younger engineers. You are not old, go chase your dreams!

Same

just continue the project you creating and when stuck figure out, dont learn to code at beginning... figure out what you wanna create then learn to code

you laern to code by pushing yourself into project, not by learning basic stuff

@@furqonlanang9250 Done with basic stuff a while ago, just sometimes I feel lost by thinking of what to wirk on as a project, i have done a few simple projects nothing too fancy though.

​@@jos2294 just keep figure out what you wanna build then.... and from there you start what skill do i need to build this then you learn to code, most developer learn from the project they created

Yeah. It is a lot more commonly appreciated now than before. I'm privileged to be in a position where I don't need a degree to do what I love, and on top of that being able to support my family.

Yeah, I haven't even seen a company that requires a degree in my adult life. Well, a few seriously giant companies in the last 25 years, but you'd be insane to want to work at a huge company anyway.

@SEGASammyTheWhale not only do they want degrees but they want 5+ yrs of experience lol

@SuccessfullyTrolledOffline Not entirely true. Times have changed, minds are more open and welcoming these days. Sure, many do. But many don't. It's no longer most. It really depends on what field you're going into. Obviously if you want to be come a doctor, lawyer, etc, you're gonna need a degree, no escape from that. But programming still has plenty of wiggle room. Even jobs that "require" degrees can still interview you and potentially accept you in. Don't let all the "requirements" deter you. Just apply to as many as possible and see what sticks! You never know. But it'd be worse than not trying at all. A lot of employers just want someone who's committed, passionate, knows what they're talking about and is willing to learn and adapt quickly. That's all. One person actually ticked all their boxes once, including having a degree, but he was rejected because they said he was "overqualified" and that they were wanting someone who wasn't nearly as qualified so that they can "grow into the role" per say. Lol. You don't need a degree to make it big in IT. Just apply, re-work your resume as much as you need to and you'll be fine!

@@flashback4588 Not entirely true. Times have changed, minds are more open and welcoming these days. Sure, many do. But many don't. It's no longer most. It really depends on what field you're going into. Obviously if you want to be come a doctor, lawyer, etc, you're gonna need a degree, no escape from that. But programming still has plenty of wiggle room. Even jobs that "require" degrees can still interview you and potentially accept you in. Don't let all the "requirements" deter you. Just apply to as many as possible and see what sticks! You never know. But it'd be worse than not trying at all. A lot of employers just want someone who's committed, passionate, knows what they're talking about and is willing to learn and adapt quickly. That's all. One person actually ticked all their boxes once, including having a degree, but he was rejected because they said he was "overqualified" and that they were wanting someone who wasn't nearly as qualified so that they can "grow into the role" per say. Lol. You don't need a degree to make it big in IT. Just apply, re-work your resume as much as you need to and you'll be fine!

thanks.

Where do I start if I want to create an Android App?

Really needed this. Thank you!! :')

@@ttth225 google it, first thing you should learn to do

hey i really need help im basically in my third year of BSCS and im tired of dont know which field to choose in Computer science and what skills to develop. please help

I think this is true for a lot of first time jobs where you deal with a lot of abstract concepts

Barely beginning my programming into python, but duly noted good sir!

Me as a data journalist

Exactly. I think it's called the imposter syndrome, but I could be wrong. Had my share of it.

I’m about to start my first software development role proper. I have five years of programming scripts for businesses. I have been programming in total for 24 years at home as a hobby. I started by learning basic, then pascal, vba, Python, c++, sql, html, css and JavaScript. The new role mostly involves programming software for business using Python. I anticipate having to learn some Python modules I’ve never used before. I learned object oriented in pascal and c++ about two years ago. At home for fun I’ve been programming games in pascal for 23 years and in c++ for a year, and using OOP since I learned it two years ago.

Yap.

Say it louder for the people in back. xD I went back to school for a pay raise and have like 10 or 9 classes left so I'm almost done with my degree. Coding was supposed to be a big part of the degree I'm getting but bare done any code. Sure we have projects but it's super basic. If I didn't look outside of school for some knowledge then I don't think I would be prepared for my promo.

@@Madskater321 it's only my second semester and after seeing the 4 years curriculum I can tell you there's literally no coding in college. So I'm also stuck here and there studying stuff on my own. Btw what would you suggest for me since you've already passed that phase.

@@Madskater321 any social platform where I can add you? And you can guide me abit here and there 😂 promise I won't disturb too much 😂😂

@Baggio Lo I swear to God you said the exact thing I'm doing right now. I just join online classes and put the tablet on the side and literally start working stuff on my own. The one thing I'm happy about is atleast I realise I shouldn't be relying on my college and that's why I'm looking here and there to learn.

Yess I wish you the best !

How's the progress?

@@Shepherd.. so after maniacally jumping between front end and python, I’ve decided at least for now to solely focus on front end web dev. And my local community college offers an AAS in software Developement so I signed up. The course should take me about a year to get my degree since I’ve already hit a bunch of the reqs with my AS in welding. Surprised it still counts lol, but. I do real well w structure so I’m going that route. In my down time I’m learning how to build responsive email templates trying to pick up side work on Fivver and Upwork

@@sugaslate14I wish you all the best of luck man, keep working hard.

@@Shepherd.. thanks brotha 🤙

I've been finding it really hard to get contracts on upwork. Please do you have any tips?

@@richardoffiong9932 It all depends on where you live. He is ptobably Indian so he can do contratcs exponentially cheaper than you due to cost of living

@@GG-wp9zu oh... that makes a lot of sense

@@richardoffiong9932 Yep. Good luck living off of Upwork living in the US. You got people doing $50 projects lol

@@GG-wp9zu damn😅💔 That's pretty sad

Same, cs in school seems like a joke to me.

What program are you currently going through?

@@ColinVarney A CS Degree, but instead of letting you specialize, they cram everything into your brain and don't let you master any specific one

The point is to understand fundamentals cs is not to master any one specific stack or technology but to under them on a fundamental level , In my cs degree I learn c++ , python , java ,c# at no point was it to master them but to show there uses this is the next that alot dont realise it's up to you as grow ass adult to take the initiative an master them in your own spare time with no hand holding. It's not the education system failing it's that people like hand holding or being told what to do and cant think for themselves

@@doenaldjonathan862 same here, even I have to take a CS degree, else its not easy to get a good job in my Country at least

Imo even when you drop out of college, having done some IT education in college is still preferred above being completely self-taught in job applications.

you have been self learning for 10 years or you started self taught and have worked in the field now for that long?

Looking for a job? :)

That’s a great start!

i started my self-learning journey late last year at 36. I'm 37 now. a few people have already said I'm too old too code, which gives me more fire to prove them wrong. good luck, I'm there with you.

its probably easier makin than studying tbh

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Hey that's a great book, I loved it. I am 13 years old..

I think for most the issue is actually getting started. Getting up to a level where you can actually start doing a project in the first place. I have a lot of ideas on what I want to make, but getting motivated enough to properly get started is a problem for me (since I also work fulltime and am often tired by the time I get home). Well, it's not just that, there's a few other things I have to juggle as well that make it impossible to just spend a few hours or a day on learning without feeling like I should be doing something else.

@@thenonexistinghero it wont happen without a large investment of time ...

@@knotsable Of course I'm well aware of that.

@@thenonexistinghero yea I have that problem too, motivation is interesting because it’s harder to get motivated if you have no idea where to start. I think I’m getting over the hump right now by first reading a book on the language (java) then following a tutorial slightly above my level and trying to understand the tutorial, then playing around with the code. I tried to do the tutorial before knowing any programming but was literally copy and pasting code and not understanding it, but after reading the book I understand way more. I haven’t made any big projects, only small apps but I feel like I’ve made progress because I can understand the tutorial way better at this point

I'm 49 and been self taught since I got my Vic 20 in Dec 1980. I'd never worked in a professional setting. That is a whole different world. Then I got a job as a coder for one year because I made Oathlords, but man, I hated it. I think i hated python and php most of all because I'm a C/C# guy. Now I just do Oathlords. I can do anything... and yet if I were a professional coder I would not want to work with me.

I'm against the need of meeting new people. Why should it matter instead of the skillset?

@@tomclanys I mean it's not needed, just makes things a LOT easier.

@@tomclanys Skillset is only 50% of the job. Your network is the other 50%. It's what people mistake as "luck". "Oh, he just got lucky that Usher found him." "It's for luck he was able to meet Dan Piña!" Etc, etc, etc. You are 6 acquaintances or less from anyone in the world, with North Sentinel Island as the exception. Networking closes the gap between you and the person you need.

I agree. The programming projects in college pale in comparison to the real world - this is why so many "fresh out of school computer science degree" programmers try it for a while and say f* it! The "soft skills" you need include: persistence, patience, tolerance (especially for clients/bosses), insane attention to detail, zero distractions, thinking outside the box (creativity), being a teacher (teaching helps!), ability to share, humility (admission of failures), be a personal translator (algorithms/code to English a 5 year old can understand), the ability to do mundane tasks ad nauseum without complaining (reporting, for example - boring and tedious as hell, but must be done), and so forth.

Not disagreeing with the sentiment, but in another way, none of us are self-taught. None of us sat down and explained to ourselves programming concepts that we didn't currently know. I think a better term is self-directed learner.

exactly, I just wanted to write the same. A diploma on a piece of paper doesn't make you a programmer

well i mean it's called a computer science degree for a reason, it's not a software engineering degree.

I’m movin up out here in the RU-vid world 😂

Yeahhh, really happy for him

@@kennygunderman This is your sign to start putting on some muscle mass and become big Kenny 😁😁

@@LuckyPkerz I'm working on it bro 😭😭😭

Thanks for giving us some life reality checks ✅ for software developer

same, just do it i guess

I bought my first Python book in 2014, I still haven't started learning coding, aside from watching a bunch of videos on RU-vid. Right now I have around 15 books on everything coding, and 7 courses on game development, I even built a 10k PC specifically for all of this, and still I have not read a single word on any of those books or taken time to watch any on my courses. Sad.

@@nagazaki2596 i feel you bro i really do

@@nagazaki2596 that's why discipline should come first, before any skills.

Same. Because i still couldnt afford to buy a laptop to try myself in coding

Any ideas on how to do network during the pandemic?

@@Rodelaporte social media?

Can you tell me about with whom we should look for networking. Should I talk with other students in college / people like me / teachers / look for businessman / HR?

How did u start bro?

Networking can help anywhere, but it’s absolutely unnecessary as a programmer. I had 0 network and still got a job EASILY. First application, first interview landed a job. Networking for a programmer type personality can be a nightmare so telling this to people can scare them. Programming is all about proof of work, build up a portfolio and showcase it to potential employer, that’s all.

@Kenny Gunderman wtf?!

I started with python, it does what it’s supposed to, just letting you concentrate on the problem. But I felt like i was just in a self driving car i wanted that feeling of being in control. So i went to C, and it was slightly more interesting, like I was now driving an automatic and I had a sense of control. Now I’ve gotten distracted by assembly, and I feel like if I could learn it, that I could be broke down in the middle of the desert, but able to put the whole thing back together. Or even rebuild it into an airplane. I don’t look at programming as just a tool to solve problems, and I know that’s the wrong way to see it. I look at programming as a way to learn computers. I guess that’s why I’ll never get a job. Unless the world ends and no one can remember how to build an actual computer.

@@matts7975 you sound like so smart

@@jt0308 to be honest, you sound like a hypocrite. Low level language is actually more interesting to some, as opposed to something so abstract. Just like nuts and bolts are more interesting to some car guys, more than how comfortable the ride is.

​@@matts7975 I agree, they probably are more interesting to some people. But I wonder why bootcamps teach JS/Ruby/Python and none teach C or Assembly? My original comment was about accessibility, and gate keeping - and **STARTING** by learning languages that are actually designed to be easy to learn like Ruby - it's abstract nature is useful to beginners not detrimental. And that's a generally accepted school of thought. If you want to keep learning low level langs, go for it, it is damn interesting - I wish I had time to.

Depends on what your niche is because you still want to find a job. Good luck finding an open position with your deep understanding of Pascal. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with Pascal but very few jobs will ask for this particular skill. I still kinda agree with what you said but you should make sure that your niche of choice is actually useful for your career. Pick a modern and popular field and then try to spend your time learning it.

but shouldn't a beginner study the fundamentals first? I mean, im beginning but i dont know if i prefer front-end or back-end so im taking a look at both. I also think studying algorithms and data structures is really important so im studying those too. Its also nice to practice git. How am I supposed to just study one thing when I dont even know what i prefer?

This is an absolutely crazy thing to say. I was hired specifically because I was very capable with many different technologies and not an expert in any one thing. Yes, large, soul-sucking corporations like someone who specializes often times, but the most exciting companies are the ones who look forward people who have the skill of quickly learning new skills and not being pigeon-holed into a single role. At the end of the day innovation and the ability to learn new skills is faaaar more valuable that expertise in one single thing. Expertise can always be attained eventually, what’s more important is keeping an open mindset and being able to maneuver early in the career to get the exciting, innovating roles with a lot of potential.

@@hil449 exactly, don’t listen to this dude. You are right. Except for don’t study data structures, I was never once asked about them in my career. Just make software that excites you, try out everything. That’s what I did and now I have an endless amount of opportunities and am able to land a job in pretty much any kind of field I want. If you want a sure-fire was to get bored in this career and hate your life and not be able to innovate then simply learn one thing. Or, if you wanna become an “artist” instead of a programmer and have the ability to do anything or everything with little to no overhead and innovate, learn everything that excites u. The most exciting opportunities and cool/chill companies look for people who are innovative and excited about learning new skill sets and can easily maneuver the fit any role.

I'd disagree that you'd have to be an expert in a single thing. Especially in technology that is moving so rapidly and new problems comes along. You don't need to be an expert to build software, unless you're an engineer for software that is in the hands of people's lives, that is. But for the vast majority of things, you'll be fine learning whatever you find fascinating. I also disagree that there has to be curriculum and a learning path. It's subjective how people learn. Some are faster learners, more eager to try and learn from failing, others more careful in their approaches and thorough. Aside for that, people usually develop their own way of learning; for example, I personally like to dig into implementation details to get an understanding of something, rather than a high level overview, whether it's languages, games or other technology in general. The deeper I can look, the more I can understand about it.

^ THIS RIGHT HERE IS A SCAM! DO NOT BELIEVE THIS ACCOUNT!

Im literally the same age and I quit the job I had for 20years and started Front-End path. Now after 2 years I can do websites from start to end, CMS, also some backend, but cant land a job so far, I do not lose hope.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bMuWQnO6bYE.html

@RusseIIbrand go away

I think 41 is still young tbh

can only learning python get you a job?

@@MrGinz4uuu I don't think so; It seems most companies ask for atleast 3 types of language.

“Coding is life” lol!

From what I have seen in my experience it's all about the field you want. Most data scientist will know R or python. Which most of my projects are backend development. Major companies may require more knowledge of other languages or at least a degree. I work in the private sector and they are not as picky. So if you plan to work outside the private sector, best way I've seen my friends get hired is building there portfolio. Whether is is a ton of certifications, or degrees. Your portfolio will help recruiters find you based on your skill set. Also apply for internships. I would Also day find a mentor in that field. I have a mentor that helps me recognize where I am lacking and then guides me in the right direction. I wish you all the best of luck with your coding career. It's a tough but rewarding career!

@@thechangewithin3028 How old are you? When did you start it?

Yeah!!! I am doing the same, I just don't have a job. I'm 13 haha. Keep up the good work and results will come

Exactly

Thats y i dont start thinks like data analyst, data scientist or machine learning or python. Rather I would like to start my carrier by learning firstly as - java script, html & css which does not require math or statistics. Ill comfortably like to be as web developer, front end, back end or full stack developer😊. That's well fine enough for me. BCoz i hate math alote 😡

@@randomvideo4399 Programming is math. You'll get the hang of it

Where can I learn all these skills. Any suggestions?

@@dieuveillemabounda3991 Many universities have free courses that are very similar/same as their actual curriculums. Stanford and MIT are popular for these.

Thanks!

Hey, how do you build compression in programming or is that a real thing?

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bMuWQnO6bYE.html

Hi I’m trying to learn more about math and science from the base level up what resources do you use

I tried several areas, but all that wozld lead to data science and research. (So PHD level abstractuon skills are needed). Better do the ordinary tasks. Or maybe do a network expert. Programming is not everyone's talent.

Reaper ( the greatest host seq EVER ) is open source. Pretty sure you can code some rad stuff to be implemented SOMEHOW in the audio spectrum . Making scripts, new audio software, etc. Or just making little ( but super big helpful) apps like the reakter sample map builder. When I found that online it was like " where was this all my life ?" 😂

So am i😅, keep grinding and may all your preparation meet with the best of luck!

1:50 Helsinki, Finland me too. Good Luck

Good luck :D

Are you self taught?

get it!

I'd recommend skipping college altogether if you're truly serious about programming. You really don't need a degree in this particular field as you can learn pretty much all you need to know right at home. And there's several things colleges teach that are useless in an actual job, such as data structures and the like. I highly recommend the boot camp on Udemy by Colt Steele. Usually boot camps are $12K+, but this is an online version and is only a fraction of the price. It's the most comprehensive online option I've ever seen to. And I got it at a discount for only 20 bucks, but now it's back to regular price at just 120 which is still a bargain compared to a $50K+ 4 year college degree that will only teach you basic concepts while you still have to self teach yourself 90% of the time anyways. All of us devs are self taught anyways. Most of programming is actually doing it, it's less about the textbooks and coursework. Waay less. All that can be learned and more, again on fantastic platforms such as Udemy. And you can do his course in less than a year/up to a year and that's all you need to become a Web Dev/Software Dev. Check it out and read through it and see if it works for you. There's countless amazing courses for devs there. There's even entire Udemy courses that focus solely on a single language, such as Python. Look it all up on Udemy, Front End, Back End, Python, Javascript, C++, Web Developer, etc, etc, etc and see all the ones that look the best to you and maybe invest in them one day. They're all incredibly cheap and yet so insanely detailed and packed with comprehensive, easy to follow information and lessons. Feel free to read all the reviews too. They're all super highly rated and for good reason, but never hurts to hear what others have said about these courses too, of course. But one real world example I can share is that one of my cousin's friends literally took an online course on Udemy, finished it in a month or two then started filling out his resume and applying and getting hired all within another 2-3 months and that was that. Now he's making 85K+ when he only made like 40-50K+ with his Geology degree he spent 4 years and 50-70K+ on. Lol.

@@Vandicoup since I commented I have actually used that web dev boot camp (which I owned for a few years but never finished) and have done some free lance development I am also a few days away from starting my cs degree...

@Kenny Gunderman sounds like a scam to me

@@SealedKiller it is

@@hettt.patelll I know I'm just playing around xD

I remember when I was 8 and I started with unity and python. LOL. I just copy and pasted code from videos. Except for python, I did make some cool programs there.

boys... have a youth, do silly stuff first, don't act like grown ups with 16

Isn't a helicopter mechanic making BANK though?

@@fistofram5526 They do depending on what you think is bank. A lot of people at our facility have been there 16+ years. That amount of time most people are in the $35-45 dollar per hour range. That is really good money, however, my buddy is a programmer with the same amount of time in making around $250K a year from home. No clocking in and out and gets to work on his property and see his kids a lot. That is my motivation. If I make the same check I'll be just as happy. Not being tied to a time clock is the most important thing to me.

how’s it going? i’m in the exact same spot, 30 year old cnc mill programmer trying to learn to code lol

absoletkt awesome comment right here. All the best !

@@POLYMATHSORTA 🙏🙏🙏

As a software tester you can get a job even without further. There are bootcamps offering jobs aftwerward. Only pay attention that you should start at place, where there is manual and python testing.

Any updates a year later ?

@@experimentlol6644 he didn't make it, people like to tell what they are going to do and never do it

Haha my b, I thought I made it subtle

For me, as someone who is self-taught and in school pursuing a bachelor's degree in computer science the degree is more about having tangible proof that you know what you're talking about/have something to show for all the work you put in. I already know most of what is being taught in these classes because I already have experience working on various projects in my free time. What the degree can give me is that those projects can't is definitive proof that I can take anywhere to any job no matter what.

@@thisguy6121 is it really required to have this proof (degree)? Because I read everywhere that you don’t need a degree and instead you should just make a portfolio.

@@user-mz1wy6de6i no, the degree isn't required. Anyone can get an internship and get professional experience in the field. The fact is though having that degree gives you leverage, it's more money in your bank account because you have this piece of paper saying you know what you're talking about. And when it comes time to give out promotions, more often than not that difference between a bachelor's, masters or no degree is what really decides who's getting that promotion.

@@thisguy6121 makes sense. Thanks for your response 👍🏼

would you say I should learn those languages in that order ?

@@user-ob5cw1pg9b he literally said avoid low level languages man.

@@chiefdvm1671 python is a low level language and he said thats the best one to start with lmao

@@Jake-ti2ol no it isn't. Python is a high level language

@@chiefdvm1671 im retarded