SEN Tenz Reacts to Shroud & Alexsander's Less Crouch While Shooting & Demon1 Aim  

Had to rewatch it like 20 times to understand. They don’t instinctively instantly counterstrafe as soon as they shoot a burst or as soon as they tap, they go full stop and take that extra microsecond to make sure the shots gonna hit, if it doesn’t THEN they strafe focusing more on raw mouse aim and THEN movement. When they do strafe, the strafes are very quick and not far as well. Basically as other people have said they have no “wasted movement” and it gives it that clean indescribable look because the movement and aim are so linked and intricate. It’s kind of hard to describe and I know I’m definitely not describing it properly but oh well

I think Shroud mentioned he counterstrafe, but letting go is easier. I also believe once you overcome the fear of death in game, you will stop shoot and not move until the enemy is dead.

I think confidence is the key here, people counter-strafe because they think they'll die instantly if they stop moving, same idea as crouching instantly.

Tenz watching his dad Shroud to learn from him. It's so cute

Like seeing aleks get some recognition he’s so underrated

I think tenz aim and movement is fine, everyone has their own aim style and their own strengths and weaknesses

When he brought up that Less’s aim style is similar to this, I remembered Vct analyst’s breaking down his movement. The thing that makes him such an insane and unique player is the amount of wasted movement he has, it’s almost zero. Which is absolutely insane to think about, but all these players have almost zero wasted movement or momentum. Which makes them look like a turret at times but they hit every shot, the best kind of aiming style in valorant imo.

They are basically trading movement for more accurate confirmed shots . Also it helps with positioning as their playstyle do not reward for more wide kills . While on the other hand tenz probably has a more chaos driven style where he finds opening and kills . Thats why all duelist whatever the level mostly shine when feikd has chaos the more unpredictability in round the more duelists shine . While stop and shoot is a rythmic gameplay

We heckin love TenZ. He heckin love shroud.

aleksander aim is so smooth

Bro shroud as counterstrafing in his DNA he is doing it without thinking about it it's insane

alexander is legit human aimbot

Demon1 seems to have it suite more towards his aim and playstyle rather than Shroud's. Alexsander is the GOAT

I think coming from playing many years of Counter-Strike, it's just second nature that you come to completely stop and aim for head and shoot. Even if you move the slightest while shooting, your bullets will not land 99% of the time in CS, and it's very punishing. Then once you're comfortable with that method, you can mix in with strafe and a bit movement with coming to another complete stop, aim and then shoot for head again. The only time you should be spraying is if the enemy is very close to you; otherwise, it's always better to aim for head and just shoot 1-2 bullets at a time and readjust your aim and do the same again, because it's more efficient to land 2 headshots than 5-10 body or leg shots. Not only does this method conserve your ammo, but it's more about getting your mind to calming down while taking the time to aim and shoot, instead of just shooting and relying on RNG bullets landing headshots. Shroud also mentioned in one of his streams the reason why he uses bigger crosshair is because he doesn't need to focus as hard with his eyes and kind of just pinpoint a general area where enemy's heads are at and shoot at that direction to get a headshot; whereas if you were to use a small dot as your crosshair, sometime you can't even see where your crosshair is and you lose more time trying to focus rather than aiming and shooting.

Agree with the top comment, if you notice in range, when you don't move at all it becomes much easier to hit the targets. (Because we are designed this way, since we suck at multitasking, which is a lot harder). It's the same concept here.. Instead of gen-z neon sprinting, sliding and shooting, its the calculated movement and focus on AIM that makes you a lot better than the rest.

playing deathmatch like this is awesome, its a lot easier. Movement sometimes destroy you aim, like when you do kovaak, you are standing still, if you start to move, you will get less score, because you will need to microadjust everytime you move, or adjust with your movement, instead of just focus in the kill. And when you full stop, people sometimes overaim you and need to go back the crosshair to the enemy, this kind bugs many people.

i think the only difference is invert movement ? there are people who move away from the enemie hand have their crossairplacement to the right side of the Head. ANd These People just do the exact opposite and move right to the enemie not away

Thank God he finally understood to not crouch 😂 Feels good to be in the same play style category as Shroud/Alex

Dude he's standing still fires a shot or two and moves. It's trying to be unpredictable instead of predictable movement

"coming is probably the best style" - Tenz

It's a lot more than "just stands still". He doesnt over-move.

I dont know why tenz haters hate him, He never say his aim god or better than other but rather he always feel his aim not that great, never trashing other pros and still wanna improve his aim performance.

Would be nice to see a comparison of pros on the opposite spectrum who dont aim like this. Asuna comes to mind, but cant think of anyone else since i havent been following the pro scene too closely recently.

I would say that, actually it is his Talent, many other Pros also mentioned it. That Shroud's hand eye coordination is on another level, he always quick to react, especially to any sudden movement that happen within his POV, and i think that is also his flaws.

How can I move like that IT LOOKS PERFECT and I managed to do it in team deathmatch and got 15 kills with the ghost cuz of it just as TenZ said its simply perfect movement

I think when your aims as good as shrouds (and TenZ tbf) he trusts if he stands still the advantage he gets (by being able to focus on aim purely and not having to offset his movement on his aim) is greater than the advantage the enemy gets by him being an easy, still target. Probably won’t work unless your aim is truly exceptional like shrouds

Aleks and Soulcas are crazy aimers

The fact that even tenz is in awe means its normal. These are also highlights and he has these moments too. Nobody plays perfect all the time

I like how these top tier players still trying to learn and improve their game

honestly i wouldve loved to see shroud play more of a duelist role, ik its not what most people would want or expect but i think it wouldve worked or at least been interesting

Shroudy has always been a calm clean aimer man.. He's mastered the art of micro-movements and raw aim.

"yay has a very standstill movement style" thats is one of the sentences ever... 😂

I think it's more about having perfected crosshair placement rather than not moving. They just click the head consistently and only make small movements with ad and tap fire. They all basically never flick

Aproto and Alek are aim demons shesh 😮😮

Less goooo aleksander getting some love

the ending perfectly explains valorant movement

I think the whole video can be summed up in a few words - be slow and accurate instead of fast and inaccurate. Take your time, aim first, then shoot. Use less crouching so you can reposition/strafe after each kill.

If you're bad, do not try to replicate this.

Meanwhile all my enemies run and gun in my lobbies

Lol calm aim *Asuna enters the chat*

I think I know what he meant. It's like Tenz has this kind of habit(at the moment he streamed this) to KEEP PRESSING counterstrafe, (a.k.a. deadzoning), while shooting, so the bullets sometimes doesnt go fully accurate. (because tracking and shooting error). Ofc, sometimes he doesnt move when holding angle but what he meant is for entrying/clearing angle/retake situations. Mainly because make him harder target to hit, but kinda hard to hit enemy While, the people he mentioning, literally doesn't move when shooting, but make sure to kill enemy when shooting, EVENTHOUGH, by not moving he's an easier target. I could be wrong, tho.

WE CALL IT TURRET MODE YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST 🗿🤓☝️👌🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

I think it's like swinging towards a person and minimal cross hair placement then instinct comes in play..duno whether its true...these three go in mix.

Reminds me of this old ass csgo fragmovie by area called "HStory". This is a bit counterintuitive since this guy was a cheater (which he was suspected for but wasn't confirmed for a while) but nevertheless he was the direct inspiration for ScreaM's onetapping style for example. I doubt he was completely useless without cheats, his movement was ahead of its time and it's the same thing that's talked about here.

“Idk how to explain it but I do not do that” like yeah you don’t do that and you’ve won a world title

I think the word tenz was looking for was they have really good timing and positioning. Getting in a spot to fight and then aiming is two sides of the same coin

Honestly both work but I like to stop as soon as I see the enemie, then strafe after the first shot. Ofc im nowhere as good as them tho 😂

i don't think there's something right answer because imo what he's saying is a part of the counterstrafing. if you miss your shot after letting go the key, you would start to press A D. and let the key go. yea that's what we called counterstrafing and alexsander is doing perfect counterstrafing. so you can improve it by practicing just like tenz said but important thing is you have to do counterstrafing anyway. it's just a matter of the timing of starting to do counterstrafing. so there's no right answer i guess

Its because he focus on Head shots, like pancada's aim style

they look like theyre strafing an awful lot in these fights, maybe not compared to tenz but they certainly aren't just stationary

Lowkey Its not about not being able to stop and shoot , Those who've mastered counterstrafe to a point that they do it instinctively experience difficulties when trying to not move while shooting or taking a duel , I've been playing fps for so many years , and I am not good at counterstrafing but , my aim is steady and I don't move when i shoot , I insta stop and shoot as if I hit a wall and I'm stuck , but for shroud he does Know how to counterstrafe don't get me wrong he is a GOD at CS, PUBG and every game he touches, so what I'm saying is Shroud understands the mechanics behind the specific game rather than using his muscle memory from CS or anything but all these new pro's have a CS background so they can't lose their muscle memory, but for New valorant players people who have started Valo as their first fps game , would have a much easier time to stop their movement while shooting as they are conditioned that if they don't they miss their shot ,hence It's kinda understandable why Tenz feels this way.

Wish we could've seen shroud properly compete

1:03 i would call cheats tf is that

1440p 240Hz monitor is clear than 1080p 240Hz monitor tho

Gives me prime scream and niko vibes from cs

It's definitely a play style or a preference.

I'm not sure why it confuses people as to why his style of play is effective.

crazy movement like tf??? only doing counter strafes this game is no brainer

I used to play like that my aim was crisp , maybe I wasted my time time learning counterstrafing. That is a technique when you practice only aim no movement you are kind of insane but also easy to kill

All about fear,fear of death once you stop the fear you will move like that we ussually constantly move thinking it helps us stay alive but most of the time it just throws off my aim and makes me walk back in the enemy crosshair cuz they dogwater and can't be bothered to adjust

Lol this is how I’ve always played it’s never made a difference counter strafing is .2 milliseconds faster but it’s not faster then peekers adv sooooo but my aim is nowhere near shrouds and I crouch too much when. I unbind I’m crazy tho

i quit valorant a few months ago and have played no shooter/fps games but i wanna come back now 😭 or should i stay away

Shroud said that you don't need to counter strafe in Valorant, CSGO you need to because there is momentum or velocity and you need to counter strafe to zero velocity. In valorant, there is no velocity. you just stop if you stop

ive been doing this since release, but im still hardstuck silver even though having +1630 counted hours in valorant only with daily 30 min warmup and 2 hr aim train and im a former cs player as well BRO I GET IMMORTALS IN MY LOBBY EVEN THOUGH I BOTTOMFRAG EVERY SINGLE GAME the mmr system is so fked up edit:- is it because im on 60 fps 60 hz 59 ping? is it the hardware to blame or am i the worst player in history?

i think tenz is overthinking it. theyre simply giving more effort and focus more on their aim/target

To do this you need to have insane aim, need to make sure you hit your first shot for most of the time so this honestly wont work for the majority of the people except for those that have insane aims

just need shroud's chair and 240hz monitor

Your keyboard matters quite a lot too. If you have a keyboard that uses magnetic hall effect switches, like the wooting or the flux keyboard, then your movement is going to be much more responsive. Often what trips people up is the difference in reaction speed between their keyboard hand and their mouse hand.

I'm only here to try to figure out what the heck this title means.

i just die man when i try that...

It's called Gun-kata

"they make it look like so much easier" well if tenz stopped jumping and swaying his mouse for no reason it'll be easier haha

ALEKSANDAR THE GOAT

I mean tenz should know it’s basic csgo movement like learn this in mg1

I think its because the dedicated so much to their aim and not movement like in fortnite when i was bad i usually would 1 pump someone that was trying to clip me bc i didnt get the concept of building only aiming so it was easier to kill people trying to clip me

link to full vod?

shroud didn't play on Frankfurt servers xD

am i the only one seeing them strafe in between shots the same as everyone else?

just wonder, can calm shooter shoot, crazy ass movement player, maybe like flight?

So… make sure you stand still and shoot

Thought it was standard to stay still and shoot or am I missing something here ?

i think just because their raw aim is too good so they just stop and hit everything

watch aleks and scourge to git gud. thank me later

Nothing is perfect. But so cool when do it lol

i think boostio is more of that aim than demon1

maybe at this point on valorant is better to stand still in some cases because ppl are so used to people that strafe and preaim that and since all this turret god aim players dont move makes them harder to shoot?, does that make sense or am i saying non sense

He is so in his own head he already lost atp

Is he not just playing how u would in cs.

Park and bark meta

Jora enters the chat

zombs does the same thing too

Zellsis aims the same way

Wouldn't it be funny if like, once the AI anticheat comes out (the one where you can put clips into it and it will detect cheats) we put shroud clips in and it just shows him blatantly cheating his entire career? Not that I have any doubt Shroud is a cheater, hes the western goat of FPS games. But it would be HILARIOUS to just see every fan/pro whos ever fanboyed hard as just get cut up about it.

yes

*Aleksandar

vid link?

shroud the type of dude to dominate rank and scrims and somehow be shit in pro play.

Its that csgo movement and aim

Sarahcat tho

secrate is just not to crouch and be good in flicks and micro flicks