Sending PC Audio Over USB To The Behringer XR18 & Midas MR18 - Break Music, Intros, Backing Trax USB 

I did everything step by step, but for some reason the level of the music is extremely low, and the channel is clipping and making awful noises. Downloaded the driver, changed the audio from the computer to 1-2 out (berhinger x18). Usb return to 1-2 (used the preset). As I said there is signal, just awful noise and clipping that isn't there when connected via aux cable to channels 17-18. I tried multiple usb cables, any idea what the issue might be? Thanks in advance

​@@TheHassassian That is weird. There is a USB level in the channel control of X-Air for ch 17-18, but if you were hitting it too hard, it might sound bad... but it shouldn't be low. I'm assuming you rebooted the computer after installing the driver... Just in case it was something simple like that. It could be something like you BIOS needs updated on the computer or some BIOS setting, or something to do with mobo/USB drivers needing updated. In the Setup section, Audio/MIDI, you might switch from 48K to 44.1K clock rate... and reboot everything and see if that makes any difference.

Do you have another computer you could try, just for testing purposes to see if it works on your desktop or a different laptop?

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Hi Alan! Great video, but I have the same problems as Saro have with my MR18. I followed all the steps and I got the sound to work through without any problems, sound is good but it´s clipping, sounds like you put on an old dirty LP with scratches and you raise the volume until the scratches makes the signal to clip. I have tried 2 laptops and one iMac with the same result. I have switched the USB-cable, updated BIOS, changed the settings on USB-ports in BIOS, changed to 44,1 in the M18 setup. I did try to route manually but still... I have the same clipping noise on the Mains out aswell in the phones out when trying headphones. I have even tried both USB-drivers in the midasconsoles/downloads page. No difference. What do you think is the problem? Shall I just accept the problem and play music through 17/18 using 3,5mm stereo 2xmono tele to 17/18. Im worried if I will have a problem recording to reaper using the USB-interface, but I haven´t tried it yet.

@@jonnyedvardsson9608 I think it would be worth trying Reaper since it's free to try anyway, and see if the problem persists. Like you, I suspect it will. But maybe it won't. In either case, that is a bit more information to troubleshoot from and try and figure out what the problem might be. Besides that, in the Behringer/Midas SETUP (X-Air Edit/M-Air Edit) on the Audio/MIDI tab, you could try changing the USB interface to 2/2 from the normal 18/18. This then won't work for Reaper, but maybe some computers need it in this mode for stereo operation. Try that and report back if you can.

You're very welcome!

Now you're making me think I need to go through the XR18 playlist and organize the videos in some kind of logical order! ;)

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Not a bad idea ;))

Glad you enjoyed!

Thanks!

Glad it was helpful!

@@AlanHamiltonAudio It's so hard to find thorough setup videos for the XR18. Even the manual that comes with the XR18 is quite vague when it comes to actually setting up the software. Your video helped me get everything up and running!

Thanks for the Mac info! Great stuff! :)

I'm having problems to connect my XR18 to my Mac sistem preference audio input/output. Help please

Thanks, Marcus. This worked for me. Any tips on controlling the volume on the mains when you're doing this?

You're welcome! :)

When gets start again, this is one of the things I'd like to do.

Did you see this video on the channel? It should explain that with visual examples. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aNlBOOhWbZw.html

I'm not really sure... The XR18 can do its part since it's got 18 USB in and outs... but whether different software packages can access it... Or what the workaround would be... I don't know. AFAIK, for example, unless something has changed, something like OBS is locked to only using USB 1 and USB 2. Since you can make any outputs on the XR18 be USB 1 and USB 2, then that works fine in that case... but for what you're wanting to do. I just have no idea.

Make sure your gain structure is correct on all of your inputs before you do any real EQ or adding compression, gates, etc... And then make the first thing you add a HPF (low cut). If you haven't watched this video on gain structure, I'd recommend checking it out. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dM8aYehOTyI.html What problem are you having?

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks! I've been practicing a bit and now it seems everything is working as I like. Ciao

If you link out 5 to 6 in the X-Air Edit software that should automatically pan those outputs. So you can make any 2 channels 'listen' to USB 1 and USB 2 via routing in the X-Air. For example the Aux In channels (17 and 18). Set those to listen to USB 1 and USB 2 (not analog in). Then just make sure to UNASSIGN those two channel from L-R and set the bus 5 and bus sends to unity on those two channels. Or set those two busses to "Subgroup" Also, in the output section, make sure that bus 5 and bus 6 are NOT assigned to the L-R. Then just connect your left monitor speaker to XLR out 5 and the right to XLR out 6. This video talks about input settings: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xPsSPK6RKzU.html This video talks about output settings: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UNO-dACc7YY.html And this video talks about connecting Reaper (DAW) to your X-Air: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks so much Alan! I've sent this over to my engineer who will 'Old Man-Splain' to me. :-)

The XR18 channels can either get their sound from the front panel inputs or the USB inputs. That cab be changed in routing or config.

Yes, essentially... although using a DAW and the Behringer ASIO driver gives you more options since you can send more tracks to the X-Air, and more options for the tracks to go different places. Of course, none of that really matters of you just have a click track you need to send to IEMs... But if you have a click track, a vocal track, and an instrument track (for example), then it would matter then... If you know your way around Ableton well enough, I have a Reaper to XR video, and you should be able to figure out the settings for Ableton from that. The XR settings would be the same basically, but obviously the Ableton and Reaper GUI and workflow is going to look different. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html

I could be 20' is just too long. I think 16' is the max USB cable length for USB2.0. And I imagine some cables can't even do that reliably. If you can't go shorter, I'd look into a USB repeater cable of some kind.

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You need ethernet, whether cable or wireless for X Air Edit to work (connect with the mixer). USB is only for audio. So make sure your X-Air edit is actually controlling the mixer and you have a proper connection between the mixer and the computer. Maybe even with a mic and headphones in the mixer so you can test things are actually working and aren't in offline mode or something. Once you're sure the mixer is working and X-Air Edit is controlling the mixer (and you have sound in the headphones), then you can check your settings and make sure USB settings are set correctly and all of that. And at that point try for computer audio again. I don't have any Apple stuff so I don't know what potential settings might need to be checked there. Always try swapping USB cables, and for testing, use short cables so you have some margin of error on USB cable length limitations. Once you know it's working, you can try your longer cables since you have a point of reference that you know IS working.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio thank you so much for your response. Will try immeadiately!

No. The XR18 is there... maybe not everywhere it should be though. X32 driver won't work. Go here: www.behringer.com/product.html?modelCode=P0BI8 On the right side of the screen, choose SOFTWARE Scroll down from the options that open up and you should see it. I just checked and it's working if you go to it that way.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio I actually broadened my search and found the correct driver. I downloaded it, but even after rebooting, my computer sounds are coming through the PA, but Spotify won't play when my settings are USB. I uninstalled and reinstalled it, same thing. I went back to my original settings and just used the stereo headphone cable in channels 17/18.

For the analog input you need a TRS 1/8" for out of the computer to two 1/4" TS cable to connect it properly, get both sides, and not get any polarity issues. Like this: www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-3-5mm-6-35mm-Breakout/dp/B07PJTP7DR/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3IW4RFMAWGQQ4&dchild=1&keywords=1%2F8+trs+to+dual+1%2F4+ts+cable&qid=1632228596&sprefix=1%2F8%22+TRS+%2Caps%2C175&sr=8-3

Not sure. I don't have an iPad to test with. :(

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Ok, thanks, I use now the Fun Generation BT Receiver

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Yes, assuming I'm understanding you. It would have more to do with your DAW and settings there than the XR18. The XR18 has a full 18x18 grid of USB returns in the In/Out routing section. And any channel can be connected to the front panel inputs OR listening to USB for its signal. The XR18 even lets you move those around so you don't have to be connected 1 to 1 with the tracks in your DAW. IOW, your tracks could be 1-8, and your DAW outputting them to USB 1-8... And the XR18 could be set to have CHANNELS 9-16 listening to USB1-8. I've got this video for Reaper and the XR18. It does talk about how to setup Reaper for things like this when it's the DAW in question. I'm sure the DAW info translates in many ways, but it would still come down to knowing how to rout your particular DAW and the routines necessary. So even if you're not using Reaper, I think this video will be helpful for info on concepts for the DAW that you'll be looking for, and regardless of DAW, the XR18/MR18 settings will be the same. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html

It can definitely be done but if you're bringing the click and trax in digitally, then you're going to want to do it all from within a DAW. And you're really going to have think about your routing, track arming, pre-recorded tracks, tracks that will be recording live, and loading the pre-recorded tracks and songlist order. I have this video about connecting to Reaper: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html I think you'd probably find it easier to feed the tracks and click via a Wave player (or MP3 player), or laptop using the analog (headphone out), or connected to its own interface and feeding the XR with an analog signal(s).... While recording everything separately via USB in an entirely different laptop.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio got a few time signatures in all of the songs, i would think that dont matter as long as you got a click to get you from A to B, or does it matter when using backing tracks? never used backing tracks before, but now we need them. would it be a bood idea to have the clock follow the time signatures then?

You do have to wait after stopping the recording for the X-Air to finalize the recording... But it sounds like you're doing that if you see the USB light go off before you pull the stick. Other than that, the X32 can be finicky about USB drives, so I imagine the X-Air uses the same circuitry so you might try another brand stick, or just another stick in general and see how that goes. I've had good luck with PNY. Pretty sure Sansdisk has always worked for me too. I see one Sansdisk here that I've used on the X32 and it's a 64G Cuzer.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks Alan, it seems the current range only handles USB 2.0 and up to 64GB, I got it workign with them, yes they are finicky for sure

I think what you're talking about has to do with Reaper's default USB outputs and its master outs... which can all be changed. See if this video explains what you're wanting to get done: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html

Hey Cindy!!!! :)

Well, I think I could probably sort it out if it was all sitting in front of me, but I'm a bit lost trying to figure it out as you've written it. That's pretty complicated ;) I gather that you are using all the analog channels for band inputs and can't just use a couple of those inputs for the click tracks?

@@AlanHamiltonAudio That's exactly what it is. All analog channels are taken, as are 2 of 4 FX returns. We are looking to use the 2 remaining FX returns for clicktracks, one of which is used by all 4 of us, and one of which is used by our drummer and guitar player only. To be complete: One of the analog channels is used as USB and processes the backing track that also goes to FOH What we need to do in short : We need to route 3 tracks from Presonus Studio One to three tracks in the XR18. The backing track itself to an analog track and separate clicktracks to the FX3 and FX4 returns (for IEM-only) Hope I made it a little clearer 😀

I've not really tried Audacity for connecting to the XR18. I have a video about connecting an XR18/MR18 to Reaper DAW and on the XR18 side of things, the settings would be basically the same no matter what DAW was being used and it would be the DAW abilities and configuration that would be the wildcard. That video is here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html

I think the XR16 just has a USB port for your thumb drive, but not to connect to a laptop. But I don't have one to confirm.

I'm not really sure. If it's detecting it I'd expect it to work.

You'll need different software on the PC to output the tracks. Like a DAW. Reaper, Cakewalk, ProTools, etc.. I've got a video that talks about connecting Reaper, but really the process is basically the same for any DAW you'd want to use for your tracks. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html

I'm not really sure what it could be... Bad USB cable? Too long of a USB cable? BIOS settings in the computer? Computer gremlin? Did you try reloading drivers? Try older drivers? I'm not sure if there are any newer drivers now than when I made the video but it wouldn't hurt to check. Of course Mac doesn't need drivers. Firmware update? If you're getting partial connectivity from the DAW, then that would seem to rule out a USB cable, though I'd still change it just to see what happens.

Man I am in the same boat! I have tried with 3 different laptops, spent 6 hours on Sweetwater and this is what I have discovered so far. 1. AMD, no good...the processor simply doesn't work with the Behringer drivers. I have tried 2 different XR18's with same issue. Now with my intel inside PC laptop I am able to record and get great sound except it is not playing anything I record back through the XR18. I am now calling SW again with this issue to determine if this just isn't the device for me. I currently have a Tascam US-1800 that does a great job for recording several tracks simultaneously, but it doesn't have the bells and whistles and extra features that I was hoping to take advantage of with the XR18. I will update this post as soon as I have tried to get help through Sweetwater!! I am wondering if it just a driver issue that Behringer needs to fix/update.

I don't have an XR12 but I think it's not... I think the XR12 just has a slot for a USB stick, but no way to talk thru USB to a PC/Mac. Maybe someone will confirm or correct me here to be 100% sure.

Not sure on this. Hopefully someone will see this and chime in.

Just hook the WAN port on your private router to a public router network LAN port where the internet is accessible.

You could run an Ethernet cable from the "internet router" to the designated router unless your trying to keep your designated router offline.

Have you checked the Privacy settings in the Mac's system preferences? Make sure sound settings aren't blocked for new apps.

It should work... It's hard to say what might be going on with the PC. I'd definitely try a different USB cable just to rule that out... Obviously, reinstall the drivers and make sure you're loading XR18 USB audio drivers and not something else, nor X32 versions. Reboot the computer. Other ideas might be loading an older version of the drivers first and seeing if those work...

@@AlanHamiltonAudio I tried different cables, another pc laptop, and a Mac computer. None of them recognize the XR18. I'm assuming it's the Behringer now. I'll be calling customer service soon..

You can if the software supports it, like Reaper or some other DAW.

I would like to know also because I'm interested in purchasing an XR12. The Behringer downloads page suggests that this is possible, but I don't know anyone who has tried it.

You can use the XR18 or MR18 itself as an 18x18 audio interface (via USB) so you wouldn't need to use another interface to get into a DAW. It can be your USB audio interface itself. You just need to DL and install drivers for PC (Mac doesn't need drivers), select the 18/18 option in the Setup tab of the X-Air unit, and then setup your DAW by choosing the Behringer as your interface. So no additional hardware is needed if that is what you are wanting to do.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thks for the info. My intension is to use another audio interfacr like Motu M4 or SSL2+ as they have a low latency, which I need to use my VST plugins (FX and Synths, Drummachines). I think the Midas MR do not have a good latency and AD/DA converters as above mentioned interfaces. I don't want to spend 1600.00 for a Motu 16A which is my favourite AI.

I'm thinking the X12 and 16 can only do stereo 'out' to a USB stick and doesn't have a full-featured USB connection for digital audio back and forth over USB.

You might try downloading an older set of drivers and see if that makes any difference. Try a different USB cable. Do you have a different computer to test with? Maybe connect the MR18 to a different computer and see if that changes anything. Someone, either in this thread or the Reaper to XR18 thread had an issue connecting via USB and turned out to be a hardware issue with the XR/MR18. I don't recall if they couldn't couldn't connect at all, or got issues like you're experiencing. If you can connect to another computer with no issues, that would at least seemingly rule out a problem with the MR18 in this case. I suppose you could DL Reaper and give it a try to see if it somehow works when connecting to your computer, which then also could eliminate the MR18 as being a problem and at least send you back to your computer looking for a driver conflict or computer BIOS upgrade or BIOS setting that needs changed. But if that's the case, there's no guarantee that Reaper would work thru it either... but it might. It would be worth a try I'd think. Reaper to XR/MR18 video- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html

@@AlanHamiltonAudio isn't it possible that his USB gain is just set too high on the XR18?

@@samroney6644 Yes, that's a good point. I assumed he wasn't seeing clipping on the meters, but I probably shouldn't have assumed that and should've mentioned to check that. I jumped a step ahead.

That's not something I've tried. I'm not sure if you can do that, but I can't say for sure.

You can do this but not both over the USB port. Use your aux sends out to send one to the daw and one to the broadcast. It can take a little more adjustments to get the mix right on them but it works.

Definitely should be able to. You'll have to work out your DAW routing so that you're sending your backing tracks to unused channels (unused by the live band) on the mixer.

I'm curious if you had figured this out since you asked here. I'm new to the XR18 and am in full-on "learning curve" about everything. I'm also wanting to send audio from my laptop to the mixer for break/fill music while also being able to record live shows to same laptop. (I'm using Studio One 6 as my DAW.)

@@DavidOxford606 here is how i do it. i send the tracks thru 15 and 16, then i disable the outputs on the other channels. that way they don't go to the PA. There's probably an easier way to do it but the tests i have done it seems to work.

I'll have to look into it. I've used Reaper so much that I haven't looked at Pro Tools in some time.

It sounds like maybe a bad USB cable, or one that doesn't get along with the MR18 for whatever reason, or a clocking issue. Is it a Mac or Windows computer? Are you using it for recording and bringing your recorded tracks in and out of the MR18, or just trying to play backing tracks via USB for live performances?

If your gain is good into the MR18 normally, then it can't be a gain issue causing the problems with a normal USB connection.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Yeah just tested it running my Helix into Midas and it sounded heavenly - so the mixer to speaker connection isn't the problem. Whenever I play back audio on it there's frequent clicking and popping to the point of I-wouldn't-use-this no matter what the gain is What is a good USB cable you'd recommend? I am using some cheap 15ft Amazon cable, also using some cheap ethernet cable (saw someone said this has to be shielded, idk if true) but I don't think ethernet would result in playback issues I have a Focusrite Scarlett 8i6 I have been using and it gives me no problems whatsoever with anything so I imagine this should work it's just user error

and it's a Windows computer, Dell XP40

@@AlanHamiltonAudio it was indeed a crappy USB cable - just swapped out for another and worked like a charm! Thank goodness haha because wiring this all took about three hours

I'm not really sure. It SHOULD work if you're following the instructions exactly as in the video. Have you tried with a different computer? I suppose you could need to make some BIOS level change/update on your computer... But I kind of doubt that.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio ok so i uninstalled the drivers and installed them again and everything seems to work..i guess my mistake was that i installed the drivers with the device closed at first time.

@@_DNA. Cool. I was kinda stumped!

I have this video linked below for the XR18 and OBS, but if you aren't using OBS, the part about mixing for the stream still applies regardless of your software for streaming: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aNlBOOhWbZw.html

@@AlanHamiltonAudio thanks!!

@@kmont54 No problem! LMK if you have any questions.

I don't have a Mac to test, but I suspect it should work fine, but doesn't require the driver download. it should work natively I believe.

I'm not sure why you'd still have the signal going out if you deselected L-R from the channel(s)... UNLESS... you have one or more of your master monitor feeds (master bus feeds) set to go to the L-R by accident... and the channel(s) with your USB input is still sending to the monitors... and the master monitor send (or sends) is sending it to the house A similar scenario is described in this Top 5 FAQ video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x9wciA2wFd0.html If it's not that... then it's odd... You could probably stop it by going into the channel Config and changing the input on those channels from USB to analog. But stopping it that way, still means SOMETHING else has to be off... somewhere... I'm betting it's the monitor send or sends with one or more assigned to L-R. Check out the video link I posted above and see if you can track it down from that.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Perfect. It was exactly that. One of the buses had the master sending LR out. All good now. Thanks a Lot!

@@monteiro4100 Cool! Glad that was it and you got it worked out!

No, it just accepts a USB stick. Doesn't connect to laptop like XR18/MR18 will.

Did you see this video on the channel? Even if you're using something besides OBS, it might help since many of the concepts are the same. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aNlBOOhWbZw.html

Make sure you downloaded and installed the USB Audio driver and not the X/UF driver. Also, maybe try the older version of the USB Audio driver. Beyond that, try a different USB cable and switch USB ports.

Is it possible that the usb DriveSaver are only Running on Windows higher than Windows 7 Professional ? I have Nuendo and multiple plug ins running. But can Not activate the usb Audio for the xr18… Any solutions would be highly apreciated ! Thanks !

@@thomasknaufs5958 I don't know. Maybe someone will see this and have and answer.

70 meters makes things more difficult. I'd be using an analog connection myself as the first option in that case (if possible logistically). Computer/MP3 player (headphone out or USB External preamp) into stereo DI and mic lines (or Cat5 to XLR dongles) to stage. If for some reason, hardwiring wouldn't be practical, it's possible to use high quality RF. If mono is acceptable, a standard but quality wireless mic setup with a beltpack taking the audio player input and the receiver 70 meters away could work. My first choice would just be to hardwire it.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Hi Alan. Thank you for the response. My mistake, I'm supposed to say 70 feet which is around 20 meters. Is it still advisable to hardwire it? There are existing active USB extension in the market which looks interesting.

@@lucyfreeman8777 Oh... 70' is much more doable than 70 meters :) . A passive USB cable won't do it, but I'd think an active USB cable would be OK. I think the spec for active extensions is around 150' so you shouldn't have trouble with 70 feet. That said, I've not tried it so I'm just working off published specs and anecdotal reports. But I've seen enough that I would try it and expect it to work... though I'd probably give it a dry run test before putting it in a mission critical application.

I think the XR12 just has a slot for a USB stick but not a USB port to connect to the computer. Isn't that correct?

Is it the UMC404HD USB Audio Interface?

@@AlanHamiltonAudio yes. The situation is: I have a mevo camera that only allows usb audio input and I want to control the input thru the pc using a virtual mixer then try to fool the cameras input sending audio thru usb on the laptop. The goal is to use pluggings etc and better audio quality.

@@noelbulls8628 Let me do some research tonight. I'm almost positive it would and would work similar to the XR18 as far as that goes, but I don't own that 4 channel interface so can't say I've ever done it.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio no problem brother thanks for all videos. I learn so much fro them. Later

@@noelbulls8628 The camera is the wildcard in this. Audio in and out of the Behringer UMC to the PC, and from the PC back to the UMC, shouldn't be an issue.. but whether you can then send that audio to the camera via another computer USB... I don't know. Everytime I think of something, I think of a question/issue that I don't have a way to check.

That is something I'm not sure about. You'd want to use more of the DAW settings for the XR18 (Like in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html ) assuming your way of feeding that info into the XR18 is digital via USB and not taking analog outputs from your 5.1 device.

​@@AlanHamiltonAudio I've done some digging in the meantime and for macOS, it seems I'd need to decouple the dolby surround signal (hopefully) coming from a browser player with a virtual audio loopback driver. Some of the options available are BlackHole (free/on donation), Loopback (paid), VoiceMeeter (paid, but has a Reaper-style trial). There's also a predecessor to Loopback - Soundflower - which has been discontinued and not maintained for a few years now, though. So I think I'll just tinker with BlackHole (lol) and see where I end up

I don't have a Mac so I'm pretty much lost on troubleshooting something like that. Sometimes, it's a problem I'm aware of and have some idea of where to point you that I've heard Mac people talk about. But this issue isn't one I've heard before. :(

@@AlanHamiltonAudio it was a firmware issue. Updated my mixer and all was good. thank you for the reply. I am wondering if you have any thoughts on the Midas 4816-O splitter.

@@smellytele9629 I think a lot of people that are getting it probably are getting it when they shouldn't. For a band that wants to have their own monitor console and send a split to a house rig, I think an analog splitter is the way to go. It just removes complications and variables from the situation. For a band that has their own FOH console AND Monitor console, traveling with their own FOH engineer, then it's a bit different answer. An analog splitter is just plain simple in function and has absolutely no impact between the two consoles as far as mixing goes. No matter what FOH or Mons would do, it won't change the other. The Midas splitter is operating in the digital domain, so any changes made on the monitor console's preamps will change the FOH mix. This means FOH can't do anything much until the band has set their channels onstage and is sure they won't be changing preamps. It's also a line output when the FOH operator will be expecting mic level outputs coming to FOH (since that is normally what they'd get from an analog split). That second part is not necessarily a dealbreaker, but it's still one extra thing to think about or be aware of. Plus, depending on the experience of whoever is at FOH, it can lead to 'surprises' even if you make it clear you're sending line level to FOH. Especially if the FOH engineer isn't following 'best practices' at FOH. If a band has their own dedicated FOH engineer, then a lot of the variables can be understood and sorted thru and planned for... So the Midas digital split makes a little more sense. It's definitely a cleaner connection and smaller footprint than a 16 channel analog splitter would be. But even then, the band needs to really understand what is going on and not be changing the preamps once they are set... or the band's mon engineer... or band member that has that control. I'm not sure how many bands will really understand that. It just seems like a recipe for trouble in many cases with a band making changes on the monitor console and those changes impacting FOH. I also assume the Midas digital split can be tapped at other points from the monitor console like post-EQ, post-fader, etc... though I haven't checked that. Those would just be additional complications for FOH if someone set things up that way. Once again, not a problem an analog can even have. I see so many routing misconfigurations and signal flow mistakes that I'm certain IF a problem can happen... it will happen.

That’s kinda what I was thinking. Thank you!!

Akai MPC? Not sure...

Unfortunately, I don't think you can use the XR16 as a recording interface to computer. ...Not unless something has changed or I've missed something over the years. I don't have an XR16 so maybe I've missed something in the USB implementation and changes that could've happened in hardware of firmware updates, but AFAIK you have to have at least the X18 to get DAW interface capabilities. If I'm wrong, hopefully someone will see this and update me and you.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thanks Alan, as far as the usb is concerned I am gettign that impression due to the lack of info on RU-vid but what about the midi interface, ?

I wouldn't expect it to be able to record audio over MIDI, but I don't know why it couldn't send/receive MIDI information for keyboard or drum machine playback of the actual devices or plugins. But I've always just recorded my MIDI instruments directly to the DAW (or on the DAW) anyway so using the Behringer's MIDI implementations is not something I have experience with. But I wouldn't expect MIDI at all to be a workaround to getting multitrack audio IN/OUT of the XR16 @@billtomlinson3287

@@AlanHamiltonAudio mmmm ok thanks Alan I will study further, I thought I once installed the Behriger USB driver and did get tghe option of that audio but perhaps not even though it appears under XR16 down loads, thanks anyway Alan, (PS: I wasnt after mutli track I know XR16 cant do that anyway, just the stereo like the usb recorder woudl do, )

IIRC the last Apple OS update added or locked/changed some permissions that had to do with audio interfaces. I don't have anything Apple to check that on, but maybe a Google search about 'USB Audio Interface not working on Mac' might have the answer about whatever it is that needs reset/changed (or changed back). Hopefully that is enough info to ring a bell and get you on the right path to at least check that.

I have the same problem. Let me know if you find a solution please

The first thing that comes to mind, and it might be how you worded the question and might not actually apply, is that you need two connections- USB only sends the audio signal and not the control signal. You need an Ethernet/wifi connection as well. Even if the same computer is sending the audio and also running X-Air Edit. X-Air Edit can't connect over USB. So the USB signal that Windows sees to know to show you OUT 1-2 as an option (X-Air) only means you're partially connected to the mixer. Your control software (X-Air Edit) will need to be connected either thru the Ethernet port or the Wifi.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Ok man, I will try as soon as possible and thank you for such an early respond:) thank you

@@AlanHamiltonAudio it works😍 thank you so much for your time🙏

@@jankoupeny3923 Glad to help! :)

I don't know. Maybe they wanted (or needed) to keep all the USB bandwidth they could available for transfer of audio for multi-tracking. The XR18 can send (or return) 18 channels out via USB to a DAW.

I guess because you can control it with your computer via ethernet, just need an adapter to get ethernet into your computer if it doesnt have a port for it already

I'm using windows PC. Not a laptop. The drivers and edit program installed and work from everything I can tell. Idk if I have a routing issue or if there's some magical thing I didn't click to make the sound come out of my presounus monitors.. but its very frustrating. I wanna start tracking.. but I can't even hear playback, youtube, mp3s, or previous project tracks. I have tonbe doing something wrong.. I just don't know what.

@@johnnyshivers7310 You say you're seeing signal on the XR18 on the meters but just not able to get sound out of the monitors? Do you have any headphones or earbuds you could connect to the XR and see if you hear signal from them with your trax playing? Either directly from the L-R or if you SOLO the AUX IN channels. There's a volume knob for the headphones right beside the headphone jack on the XR18 and by default you should hear the L-R mix in the headphones. And whether you do or don't, when you SOLO the Aux IN section you should hear it then. If one or the other of those tests get sound it limits or points in different directions as to what might be going on.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio I have zero sound. Either in the phones or plugged into the XLR monitor to 17/18- 1/4 jack. It's like sound just isn't there. I also can't seem to get playback from the tracks. I told the i/o what tracks to use in the daw. I was able to plug a guitar in and record a track after setting up 16 mono tracks. I then went back into the in/out setting and routed the mains to 17/18 like another video said and nothing.. no signal in the meters jumping. I don't understand why it's just pumping out ANY SOUND.

@@johnnyshivers7310 In X-Air Edit, on channel 17-18 (Aux in), click the INPUT tab and you should see USB enabled (Cyan) and A/D greyed out. I'm pretty sure you do have that or else you wouldn't see any signal meters, but just to confirm things... Then switch to the MAIN tab and make sure the the Main Stereo LR button is enabled. It should be ORANGE and not greyed out. If it's greyed out... enable it. On that same page, look to the right and see if there are any DCA's enabled. If there are, just tick the enabled ones to eliminate a DCA fader overriding your settings. Or... you could just turn that enabled DCA fader UP if it's turned down. But for troubleshooting, just disabling any DCAs on 17-18 is a quick fix to make sure a DCA is not tripping you up. Even if you have the wrong things assigned somewhere, if you have input meters on 17 and 18, then you should get SOMETHING outputted from it... Next, in the top right, click IN/OUT and then go to the MAIN OUT tab. Double check that your MAIN is connected to your MAIN LR... This being wrong could create your symptoms. And while you're there... the Phones should by default be connected to MONITOR. That won't fix sound not being in the mains, but could address why it isn't in the headphones, plus might help with troubleshooting. Hopefully, by this point it's working... But if not... Then I guess there could be some random things to check that you probably already have checked... like making sure the channel 17-18 fader is up.... and the Master fader is up. And while you're looking at the Master fader, click on it and then go over to the "channel" tab at the top of X Air Edit. Which, at this point is not really a 'channel' per se that we're looking at.... but the Main bus itself. On the left side is a channel input section. There is an FX button and Insert point option there. While it's possible you could have inserted something there and want it ON... to eliminate a mispatch or anything else in the signal path while trying to troubleshoot all of this, set that drop down to OFF and to be double certain, make sure the FX button is disabled and greyed out. There's not really much else, that I can think of anyway, that would stop signal you ARE getting at 17-18 via the meters not to get to the outputs.

So.. I'm not sure what I did.. its now working. Lol honestly I was nearly about to give up.. so thank you for all the swift and timely advice! But I do now have a different issue.. the xair 18 keeps dropping off and disconnecting from the mixer edit app I think? The track will continue to play but sound drops and the xair doesn't have any signal jumping? Sometimes it plays for a mins.. sometimes 10.. sometimes 13 seconds?

That's one I haven't tried. I'd assume it's basically the same as Reaper. Have you looked at my Behringer to Reaper video to see if anything translates?

@@AlanHamiltonAudio yes. I have. It’s quite similar using focusrite sound card I’m able to record into FL studio but with the Behringer I don’t get any signal so that’s what I wanted to find out.

What driver error are you getting? I'm not sure what might be up. AFAIK the X18 shouldn't have anything different over the XR18. I've used a laptop with an Intel CPU and both iterations of my AMD desktop. Old one was an FX8350 CPU... new one is a Ryzen 7 5800X. The only hiccup was on the older AMD the newer driver didn't work the first time I tried it so I loaded the the previous driver and it worked fine. I think subsequently the newer driver did work even on that machine, but I've since retired that desktop so I can't say that for sure.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Unspecified. Just a generic "USB device not recognized" and is the only thing plugged into my USB ports and when I remove the plug from the mixer, so does the error get removed from Device Manager. HMM, maybe it is a Threadripper issue (3990x, as I said that machine is kind of absurdly overpowered for my daily use case, but boy can it play youtube videos); since you have a more "consumer" grade CPU (a good one at that, hence why this time I went team red), the driver support might be more standardised. I'll try it on my Area 51M with the 9th gen intel i9 and 2080, but I don't like that laptop since it lacks the ports (display mostly) that I need. I downloaded the drivers from Behringer's website last night, so they're really fresh. Even tried installing ASIO driver too, since one forum post suggested that option. It's frustrating, since it does work on my tablets, so it's not a power supply issue. And I doubt it's a German issue; since US sites didn't have it in stock so I ordered it on Thomann, 3 day shipping and $100 less than any US site, from Germany. Thomann was a site that Behringer listed as a retail partner.

@@tdata545 I just looked at the Behringer DL site and didn't see the previous driver. Just the current 4.59 version. I could email you a copy if you want to try loading the previous driver to see if that shakes something loose, or loading it first rebooting, and then loading the newer V4.59 updates something in the process. ASIO shouldn't be the issue just connecting to Windows except for multitrack recording, and AFAIK the only ASIO driver Behringer will work with is the native driver that installs as part of the USB Driver /X-Air Windows package.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio yes please. I'm all for it. dcoke25 gmail. Thanks.

Do you mean you want to record the FX onto tracks in Reaper, or when you play your tracks back, and try to add FX to the tracks as they are playing back, you can't get the FX to work (or at least you can't hear them)?

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Yes . I have follow you video on how to connect XAiR Edit and The Reaper . Its working perfectly and recording also . All the setting i have made in the XAIR EDIT + THE FX are suppose to be recorded in the REAPER DAW . But when am doing the playback of the recorded sound i only hear a flat and normal sound without the FX preset in XAIR . When playing and recording i can hear the FX .its only when am doing the playbacķ i can't get the FX its only a flat sound . Hope i explain it well

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Well, you definitely can route more than stereo depending on the software. While, Windows itself, or something like OBS might limit you to just two tracks (stereo), a DAW (even running on Windows) like Reaper, can fully send and return 18 tracks. But that's using the ASIO driver. A Mac natively supports this. I don't know about the iPad though. I do have this video about connecting to Reaper, and the chapter about setting up the XR18's routing for working with multiple tracks should be universal (IOW, even though the overall video is about Reaper DAW, that parts that focus on setting up the XR18 will be the same regardless of what software you're using). ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xYmJGyroVe0.html So, you might check out that video and compare your XR18 USB routing and setup versus the your unit, and try it with the software you're wanting to try. Since I don't have an iPad there's no way for me to try it... But I'm reasonably certain if it can work, you'll need to make sure your XR18 routing matches what's in the video, and then try it after making those changes. If you already were running your XR18 with those routing settings, then I don't know... And it probably wouldn't hurt to watch the Reaper portions of the video too and not just skip that, just in case some of the things mentioned in some way apply or give you something to think about as far as your own software settings/options.

@@AlanHamiltonAudio Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you💯👍🏾 I will see what happens from here, and I think you just saved me over $500

This is strange... I'd make sure none of the 6 sends or FX sends are turned up on the Aux in channel(s). It could be that you have a post fader bus feeding the mains. So it wouldn't so much be that the channel fader isn't working, as it would be that it would SEEM to not be working because sound is getting from the AUX stereo channel to the mains via another signal path. If that at least kills the signal to the mains, but now you don't have any signal to the mains, make sure the Aux In input is ASSIGNED to L-R Main. Also, make sure it's not assigned to a DCA, or if it is, make sure the DCA isn't muted or turned down. The only other thing I could think of would be that your tablet/computer isn't really connected to the console but looks like it is (maybe it's in offline/demo mode). So, obviously in that case, the fader would have no impact on the channel. Report back... I'd be curious as to what you find. The channel faders don't really have a way to be anything but post channel strip. So for any channel fader to not work, then the signal either has to be finding another path to the mains (which is possible via routing and channel send pick points and AUX assignments) or else like I mentioned with the app/software not actually connected to the mixer. I'm not sure there is another way to recreate your problem as described...