He would’ve won both seasons. (IMHO) Benneton were cheating and Ayrton would have been relentless off the track about it. He would’ve beaten them on and off track. Also (as a side note) it took hours after his death for bookies to accept the fact that he wasn’t going to win the season.
@@mixolydian9102absolutely. Knowing his character and love for justice. Benneton had launch control, he would’ve protested that, and then they had a clever engine /air intake thing going on that emulated traction control, it wasn’t quite a computer system, but emulated it, and he would’ve pressured FIA to penalise them and ban it. FW16 massively improved after Imola and I think he could’ve fought back, but it would likely be decided in Adelaide. Then 95,96 and 97 would all be an easy championship for Senna. Then he probably retires
@@Tg18460 Agreed. Also, I remember reading Senna wanted to drive for Ferrari after Williams. Imagine him stepping into a Ferrari in 97 or 98? After winning 94 - 97 championships?
@@mosfillers yeah I heard that too. Honestly I’d say it’s kinda 50/50 he retires at Williams in 1997, but the timing would be good if then he jumped to Ferrari. But idk by then he’d be nearly 40 and maybe not so good anymore. Who knows. All I’m certain of is he 100% woildve won at LEAST 1 WDC with Williams between 94-97’ had he not died
Senna Absolutely on the edge, overdriving and pushing beyond what that car was capable of handling. No wonder he ended up spinning. All 3 races he was alive in 94 he drove that car beyond what it was capable. 3 poles.
@@Feuerbasis later that year, the fw16A was upgraded to the B version, much more stable. And Hill managed to challenge schumacher all the way to the last race. Had he lived, Senna would have easily won 94. What i mean is that Senna pushed beyond the car limits during those 3 races. Still what a remarkable racer he was.
@o209 While I agree with Senna's brilliance I don't think he would have easily won 94. Schumi would have absolutely walked it against Damon if he wasn't disqualified from the British GP and then banned for two races. Plus there was the DQ that was quite controversial at the Belgian Grand Prix. I think Schumi in that Benetton absolutely would have beaten Senna at Monaco, so that would have given him 4 wins and a huge advantage....unless we're factoring in that he would also have been banned if Senna was still racing. Anyway, we'll never know but I just don't think it would have been easy for Senna.
@@geraldo209don´t forget, that the cars had to be modified in the aftermath of Senna´s death. And Schumacher said, that those modifications were much more detrimental to the performance of his car than to Hill´s car. So, had Senna lived, the Benetton would´ve been stronger as it really was for the rest of the 1994 season.
@@viniciuswirtti444 it doesn’t really matter if Schumacher’s Enstone Benetton was illegal in 1994, Sir. The German great showed his greatness many more times through his career in later years, including against Senna in early 1994.
The williams in 94 was pretty much a very unstable and hard to drive then the previous year. Yet Senna was driving the hell out of it and manage to tame it thro pure skills and experience. just look how he past Hill like he is standing still... What an incredible Talent. we just wonder how the season would have been, hell the future years if he didnt have that accident. R.I.P Ayrton, we miss you.
Senna completely outclassed Hill, and yet, by the end of the season, Hill almost won the title. Williams was still the best team, all it took was some time to put in the work and updates. From Spain on, here are Damon Hills finishes.... 1 2 2 1 8 2 1 1 1 2 1 Ret (Crahsed out by Schimacher)
Adrian Newey said Senna was able to do things with this car that this car was not capable. He laped his teamate and to chase Schumacher he has pushed hard, too hard.
Schumacher had traction control on his car, they have recently admitted this, Senna knew by the engine tone of Michael’s car at the time, how could a rookie in an inferior car be leading the best car driven by a three times world champion, Benetton were very clever the way they concealed it.
Rimasi a bocca aperta per quell'errore... mi ricordo che pensai che c'era qualcosa che non andava nell'uomo e non nel pilota... troppa aspettativa troppa impazienza ...avrebbe vinto lui se avesse proseguito nella stagione... R.I.P.
I think we can put a few myths to bed now the era of the podcast is here. The Williams was a dog and was far too cramped for senna. Hill was obviously used to its dimensions. In fact if you see that Ariel shot of senna in the pits the tub looks like a Leyton house, incredibly narrow. Frank dernie said that Rory Byrne was good at picking aero parts that gave high downforce at low speed, hence the car had massive traction. Apparently an old trick that teams with not much money used. Coupled with Schumacher left foot braking meant he could drive 100% in races, especially now refuelling was allowed
Absolutely. One note is that Senna had a pre-contract in place to join Ferrari, likely for 1996. The money that Phillip Morris (Marlboro) had allotted for this was then used to sign Michael. Either way, Senna would have won many, many more championships.
Benetton had the Renault engine in 1995 so it might have been very difficult for Senna. The Williams car was rectified by the Spanish Grand Prix so 1994 could have gone either way. Absolutely no doubt he would have dominated 1996 in that Williams.
@@emilekaram6094 I think Senna would have probably retired after 1996 if he won the title. He wanted five titles to be ahead of Prost and at least 52 victories.
Senna pushing absolutely beyond the limits of that fw16A, the first chassis, still very unstable. Damon hill later said he couldnt match sennas standards driving that williams no way.
On raw pace Senna was an absolute alien, don't think anyone could match this guy apart from pre accident Hakkinen (incidently) and the young Verstappen...
@@jameshogan6142 The car was not unstable in 1993! It had all the electronic gizmos to make it stable it needed... They took it off (active suspension) for 1994 because of the rule changes... Car remained for a big part the same, you have to ask Newey why, hence the unstable car...
@@SuperWhiteBarry But that is precisely the point. Why did Senna leave McLaren for Williams to take over Prost's coveted drive had he not anticipated the technical advantages the new car would bring him? He certainly grumbled enough about it and compared it unfavourably to Schumacher's car if you watch the film Senna.
@@jameshogan6142 So in 1991, 1992, 1993 Williams had the fastest car. Senna wanted to drive the fastest. How on earth should Senna know in 1993, that the 1994 Williams would be a problematic one?!
Schumacher overtook Senna At the pit only because Benetton cheat, that had remove the filter that allo the petrol to go fast inside the car, and Benetton had also the traction control that was illigal too.
...ich mich auch, das war so aufregend und spannend damals. Der Benetton mit Schumacher plötzlich auf Augenhöhe mit den Williams. Zudem die Ferrari immer stärker und die (in meinen Augen) schönen neuen Lackierungen der Benetton und Williams. Nur schade, dass der Zweikampf Senna-Schumacher in diesem Jahr auf so tragische Art und Weise beendet werden musste...
Infelizmente nada deu certo nessa temporada para o nosso grande campeão Ayrton Senna a ida para a Williams uma equipe que era o seu sonho acabou sendo o seu fim
Infelizmente em 94 era preciso ter calma e esperar os ajustes pro carro melhorar...coisa q aconteceu pro meio da temporada. Talvez não ia dar pra ser campeão mas ia poder brigar mais pras ultimas corridas...mas acertando o carro ia ajudar pro ano de 95, 96, 97....
Senna se caso não tivesse sido acertado por aquela peça que acertou sua viseira e o matou. Seria campeão em 94,96e 97. Provavelmente aposentaria em 98 ou 99.
@@pesinhoDamon Hill só foi vice porque a FIA tirou Schumacher de 4 corridas, né? Em desempenho Hill tomou um vareio de Schumacher, não houve uma única corrida sequer que Hill venceu Schumacher em ritmo puro.
@@LeonardoSatiro666 e Senna foi melhor que Schummi em 93 com um carro que não tinha muita potencia. Era só Senna ter um Carro descente que Ia Vencer naquela temporada de 94.
Senna spun in 2nd I bet. I noticed from some of his vid's, he puts it down really early. Less likely to spin in 3rd there, but 2nd might give you .300ms advantage.
Bad aerodynamica, particular with the front wing sometimes picking up more downforce when its closer top the ground (because of a bump of an uphill corner like here) wich makes the rear a tendency for oversteer. Remember the car had active suspension (even ride height) and with conventional suspension IT moves a lot, with the aerodynamics performing in harmony in a small window
@@wasuprobleemjoh Seems like they extended the wheelbase, maybe by 5cm with FW16B and moved the Sidepods back. I suspect the diffuser had too much front down-force also. They lifted the front wing a lot at Imola94. It like the front grabbed, then the back diffuser went down, letting go of the front. Creating this over steer, unsteer pattern.
Nice to see some footage of the Portuguese National Television (RTP), that back then had two channels (Canal 1 and TV2). Pity they no longer show the F1 races. I remember when I was in vacations at my Grandparents, my Grandfather during lunch, soon the race was about to start, would get up and sit in front of the TV.
@@matthewturner3591if you watch that race and have a look at how the Benetton handled, you should know the answer. That is, unless you´re a Senna fanatic or Schumi-hater and/or have no clue about F1.
@@alexalexan-d6ja trapaça principal envolveu o controle de tração que a Benetton conseguiu colocar no carro de Schumacher de forma mecânica, o que fazia Schumacher compensar o motor Renault de Senna.
He could give 1 lap ti his teammate. 😲 That was Ayrton Senna. Even though he couldn't finish the race. Well, maybe he could have been a little bit slower with this car, then he would still be alive.
Hill, with the same car, was "lapped" by Schumacher while Senna was closing the gap. Not to mention the Benneton hidden traction control. Briatore contributed quite substantially for Senna's death.
Schumacher was better this day, but we can't be sure it would be the same in the rest of the season. Benetton barely changed between 93' and 94' as it wasn't depending on Driving AIDS as much as Williams. Adding to that, Senna was new in his car, he even had problems to fit in the cockpit. Instead, Schumacher was absolutely integrated with his team and car, which produced a very good downforce. Things could change a lot from race 6 or 7 in favour of Senna, BUT... Fuel rig and other bullshit like illegal TC or LC was always part of F1 in all teams don't give a shit for this.
@@nickypoundtown9568 I'm pretty sure Benetton only introduced traction control in 1993, at the Monaco Grand Prix that year. That was their first TC system. The earlier cars, B191 and B192, didn't have really any electronic driver aids. They also only introduced a semi-automatic transmission in 1993, along with an active suspension system.
@@nickypoundtown9568 Oh okay. Yeah, because I thought it was just Williams, with their FW14, that had all the electronic driver aids; like active suspension, traction control, semi-automatic transmission, and also ABS (anti-lock brakes). I believe Ferrari was about the only other team using any sort of driving aids in the early-90s; with their semi-automatic transmissions and traction control systems. I believe McLaren eventually followed suit later in 1992.
@@michaeldavis2531 I know a lot of teams were chasing electronic aids all the way back to when most mechanical aids like skirts were banned in 84, I think postlethwaite was doing something with the Tyrrell in 1987 hence their success amongst the other non turbo cars
People forget Schumacher had the new designed F1 car with better aerodynamics because of the front spoiler, he was faster for this reason, but yet Senna was still difficult to beat simply a legend
every driver that drove this car(herbert,verstappen,lethto) was saying that was difficult to drive.even berger who came after schumacher had gone was amazed about how schumacher manage to drive so good that car.When Gerhard Berger came from Ferrari to Benetton in late 1995 during winter testing, he found the balance of the car very poor.
The Benetton was an inferior car in 94. "Option 13" which was the hidden traction and launch control software helped them stay in front of a slightly nervous-handling FW16 at the beginning of the year. This is why Alain Prost was a superior driver to Senna - Prost would have settled for second to grab championship points and would have been patient in the early part of the year until Williams sorted out their handling issues.
Yes it's a pity Senna insisted on moving to Williams. If he had stayed at McLaren or moved to Ferrari or some other top team it would have been a great season between Prost Schumacher and Senna.
@@jameshogan6142 going to Williams was the right move. The Peugot engine was a dog.... Senna just needed to be more patient. He completely outclassed Hill, and by seasons end, how did Hill end up? P2 in the championship, 1 point behind Schumacher.
"good old days" , bro he was killed 2 races later. Marshals have been killed as well. Bianchi was killed because the "old ways" were in place. Let's look at them with nostalgia but let's be glad they are gone forever.
@@filipposstavro1233Rubbish, Bianchi died purely due to Charlie Whiting not sticking to his own rules. Sutils crash 100% warranted a SC, but Whiting felt pressure to finish the race in fading light. Don't try and rewrite history. The old days were much better. There were very few secondary accidents due to cars broken down/spinning. The current system of SC for everything needlessly robs us of racing and strategy. F1 could be so much better, if they used SC for emergencies only. Even with the current rules, someone will die again in F1, it's the nature of racing and life. It is not worth sanitizing the entertainment out of F1, to stop freak fatalities every 20 years
@@dannycolverson6944 I agree. I couldn't watch F1 after the safety car. Jackie Stewart had introduced many sensible measures to make F1 safer for drivers but safety cars was simply a step too far.
Ele mesmo disse em entrevista pra Globo após a corrida que errou. A entrevista no link abaixo a partir dos 7 minutos: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I-HhxElFv80.htmlsi=rQeTxATnov4mCMBz
La presion sobre G Villeneuve de Arnoux lo llevo a accidentarse , lo mismonpaso entre Senna y Schumacher .... y asi hay muchos ejemplos en el automovilismo , el ego era muy grande en estos pilotos....
For me, Michael Schumacher will always be the best F1 driver in history. He went to Ferrari and helped turn them into world champions, not the other way around. He played a very active role in turning the team around. It would have been nice to see how Mick Schumacher would have done in racing if he had the guidance of his father, the way Max has.
O dinheiro,o reconhecimento,o nome o peito gritou mais alto ,ele estava virando um monstro no carro já tambem,Deus ajude que chegue um brasileiro na fórmula 1 melhor que Lewis Hamilton,que Jesus Cristo e Deus abençoe sempre e quiser e todos os santos da igreja católica.
senna is not like senna in 94, i dunno, just look at his face, its like the joy is not there anymore. Senna is faster in every way, but he's impatient and emotional that cost him a lot.
Cause I feel like he kinda felt something was gonna happen and the race weekend at Imola was like a story nightmare for him. He sobbed and panicked the whole time. Desperately calling his girlfriend a lot. Talking to the FIA about safety and so on after what happened more then ever. He kinda I think felt his fate was this for awhile and as it came closer and closer this was the result. He even told sid when he asked him to quit saying he is the fastest driver we have ever seen if not ever. He has nothing else to really prove. Senna basically said that he simply couldn’t. There are things which we cannot control. I have to continue. I think he would’ve wanted to quit but he worked so hard his entire life he simply couldn’t and he still loved racing he just didn’t love what was happening. The Williams was a mess at the beginning of the year. A lot of cars were simply cause of the stability issues. I think senna always had high confidence in himself the difference is he didn’t have high confidence in the car anymore. He felt very much out of control and no one really knows or wants to know the helpless feeling he felt when the wheel broke and he went towards the wall with nothing he could do. Those 2 seconds probably felt life forever to him till it was suddenly just over. A lot weighed on senna that year. The break downs he had at imola that weekend was almost like he was desperate and wanted help. Almost like he kinda felt it or knew it. Not only did he feel it but sid said he felt it. Everyone at the time kinda felt it but no one really knew when or what it would be. He said he saw senna fly by his safety car like a bat out of hell not slowing down at all pushing the car super hard. He said right when the red flag came out he just instantly knew it was senna. No one really wanted to race that weekend after what happened before that but everyone felt like they had to. Senna had probably had the worst of it tho cause not only was he just getting really torn apart he also got killed in it. Really had a painful end emotionally. Im not religious or anything but it’s really strange the awareness he seemed to have that his fate was kinda known. He didn’t know exactly when cause if he did he wouldn’t of raced but he felt I think it was soon and it was in a formula 1 car. This may all sound like bs but I think it all kinda plays into how he felt that year. He didn’t seem like senna. He lacked the passion and want but he felt like he was forced to continue no matter what happened just cause he already went this far in his life and made this decision to a team and so on that he had to go into the unknown no matter what happened. It’s just very sad cause I think everyone else would’ve wished the race was canceled and would’ve wished that it didn’t take senna to prove how dangerous that wall was and it didn’t take senna to prove how f1 needs to improve safety and it didn’t take senna for the fia and every team to step back and improve the changes they made to make the cars better for the drivers so this wouldn’t of happened. We all wish he would’ve instead went to fish with Sid but it had to take something for all this change to be made cause that’s how unfortunately dumb the people in charge are. It shouldn’t take crashes to realize the obvious. It shouldn’t of taken a death and many crashes at spa to realize something needs to be done up there. Just like it’s gonna take someone to hit the pit wall at Baku to realize how unsafe it is. It’s just insane how we continue the same patterns.
@@callumcc8897 the car is probably difficult to handle...williams still a fastest car though on a short run...they fix in a mid seasson.. shame senna isnt there...
Senna vinha tirando de 0,5 a 1 s por volta, já estava a menos de 5s e ele vinha p dar o bote na reta.... mas errou... Senna tirando leite de pedra nessa willians sem equilíbrio...
o Schumacher tinha um Pensamento um pouco Nazista,Não é a toa que Ele é de origem Alemã,digo isso por que uma vez Ele quase teve uma Briga com o Ayrton Senna dentro dos Boxes
Look... Schummi raced in 91, 92, 93 and 94 and he didn't win a pole position while Ayrton was alive! While Ayrton won in 11 championships 65 pole position, Schummi won in 19 championships just 3 poles more than Ayrton. And Ayrton with a low team (Lotus) won 8 poles in 1986, and he fighted for the title in 86 and 87, and McLaren didn't be more the best team after 1991, and Ayrton was second place in formula one 1993 world champion! I think Michael's in third place of best formula 1 drives, but Ayrton is simply the best!
Being the best in qualifying does not make you the best. Senns had a gift for sorting out a car faster than anyone. He could get to his max speed in a very short period. This gave him a huge advantage in qualifying (and in the rain) where the car drove so differently than in race trim. But Senna's max speed was not any faster than other great drives like Schumacher, Prost, Mika, etc.
@@shooter7a But Schummi’s car was with many electronics! Alain Prost is very technical while Ayrton is agressive (and fast). In 1996, Michael lost the title for Damon Hill, 1997 for Jacques (Villeneuve) and 1998 and 1999 for Mika Hakkinen! Just in 2000 Michael won a world championship for Ferrari, and Ayrton raced in 1985 to 1994 with other enemys (Alain Prost, Michael Schumacher, Nelson Piquet, Niki Lauda and Nigel Mansell)! In 1987 f1 world championship, Ayrton won 2 races, 8 podiums and 1 pole, while Schummi didn’t win a race in Mercedes!
Se senna não tivesse saindo dessa corrida, tinha pontuado e com certeza não teria corrido em Monza, por causa da morte no sábado. Ele se sentiu na pressão de correr pois tinha zero pontos no campeonato. Essa rodada foi o primeiro ato da sua morte.
No he wasn't. 1993 was arguably one of his best seasons. Hill had the marvellous FW15C and was beaten easily. Schumacher had the custom Cosworth engine more powerful than the Mclaren's. In 1994 early season the FW16 still had a lot of problems plus Benetton had traction control (cleverly implemented working around the regulation ban).
Schumacher was way too fast in this race. Senna was holding him back for the first 20 laps as the Williams seemed to be a handful on heavy fuel loads. Most of this gap was built right after the pits, when he was much faster, then Senna was cutting it back when he spun.
Damon Hill doppiato da Ayrton Senna con la stessa macchina , e Damon divenne campione del mondo nel 1996, Ayrton era un super pilota , unico, il più grande
E Schumacher che sta davanti ad Hill con una Benetton palesemente irregolare, guardacaso l'anno prima, il 93 Hill con la Williams era costantemente davanti a Schumacher, e parliamo di Hill che assieme a Villeneuve è stato uno dei più scarsi Campioni del mondo.... Questo per dire che la Williams del 94 era una merda e che Senna che doppia Hill fa vedere che razza di pilota fosse Senna che per metà gara riuscì a stare davanti pure alla Benetton taroccata del tedesco, superato solo al pit stop perché Briatore e soci avevano manomesso il bocchettone di riferimento.... Fu uno scandalo.....
@@fedricolucchi5914 nel 93 la williams era superiore alla benetton mi sembra anche normale che Hill gli stesse davanti a Schumacher , la benetton aveva rispetto alla mclaren un motore più potente ma era sotto lato elettronica , era probabilmente 2-3 forza dipendeva dalle piste mentre la Williams sospensioni attive e motore Renault il più potente in griglia.
Only if Brazil was later in the season when the car was better. Senna didn't have the patience for the long game, but Brazil was just to much need to win, being home GP. I always preferred Brazil late season.
Ayrton Senna no se encontraba cómodo en ese monoplaza cambiaron las normativas ese año y no encontraba el balance del monoplaza.Con todos los problemas qué se encontró estoy seguro qué hubiera encontrado soluciones al Willians Renault y a no ser por el accidente que tuvo le hubiera ganado el titulo a D.Hill.El piloto británico sufrió una rotura de suspensión de su Willians como la de Ayrton pero fue en una chicane no muy rápida y no pasó nada.Ese Willians fue mejorando pero al principio Ayrton estaba muy serio y tenía sus razones.Ayrton senna1 aún así consiguió 3 pole position ...En tres o cuatro carreras disputadas ese año.
Here is a take that has never been made about Senna v. Schumacher ‘94: In 1989-1991 Ross Brawn was responsible for the Jaguar XJR Group C racer that also competed in the Camel IMSA series. It was basically an F1 car w/ prototype bodywork. While highly successful winning Le Mans, it got its ass kicked in IMSA against the less aerodynamically sophisticated but more aero efficient Dan Gurney AAR Toyota Eagle MkIII that could handle the bumpy American street circuits the Jag couldn’t. In ‘94 F1 season, Brawn had applied those lessons and reversed the Jag situation in the Benetton v Williams fight.
Wow, never knew they were showing heart rate on the show even before motogp used this kind of information displayed on its show Now where is this information in current f1 show I wonder? Never seen it anymore, and why is that?
