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The defence in the Senzo Meyiwa murder trial underway in the high court in Pretoria has indicated it wants to bring its own ballistics expert to the stand. Five men are currently on trial for the murder of the soccer star. Yesterday state witness and ballistics expert Chris Mangena concluded his examination-in-chief. Now the defence wants to bring its own expert before cross-examining Mangena. Mangena has given damning testimony including that two shots were fired inside the house where Meyiwa was killed. And that the gun that killed Meyiwa was the same one confiscated from accused number 3, Mthobisi Mncube in 2015.
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@mbusomngoma1214
@mbusomngoma1214 Год назад
Mshololo's attitude towards the judge:You can interrupt my cross examination all you want but my question stands and I wont allow you to distract or intimidate me 😅 Ngizobuza ngendlela yami!!😅 Thatha Mshololo 😅
@nanak1602
@nanak1602 Год назад
She said that??!😮😂
@mbusomngoma1214
@mbusomngoma1214 Год назад
@@nanak1602 That was her attitude 😆Ngiyamtolikela😅
@nanak1602
@nanak1602 Год назад
Ohhh!! 😂😂 it’s a bout Tome! Big Ups to her !!! 👏🏾👏🏾
@nanak1602
@nanak1602 Год назад
Ohhh!! 😂😂 it’s a bout Tome! Big Ups to her !!! 👏🏾👏🏾
@mbusomngoma1214
@mbusomngoma1214 Год назад
@@nanak1602 😅😅😅🤝
@user-oe1bt9lj9p
@user-oe1bt9lj9p Год назад
Always remember this was retired judge. Brought back to the bench. His got nothing to loose either. No legacy to attain
@Lovetvsa
@Lovetvsa Год назад
But he is doing great so far to guide everyone to stay on track including defense.
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
Love him
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
100% with u
@charlesmokoane5709
@charlesmokoane5709 Год назад
100% correct
@Zulomnyama.
@Zulomnyama. Год назад
The question is who chose him and why him only among many...the reasons will give you expected results and agenda behind...
@mapholadavid9160
@mapholadavid9160 Год назад
Advocate Charles Mnisi is brilliant black excellence 🙌🙌🙌🙌
@makay3287
@makay3287 Год назад
He's a MORON!
@ngqaphelindwandwe9452
@ngqaphelindwandwe9452 Год назад
I wouldn't agree with u .after he failed to understand why the 2nd test was conducted with the different bullets
@klevayerastamedia4393
@klevayerastamedia4393 Год назад
We request that the judge shut up when the defence is cross examining the witnesses please
@siphonengu5436
@siphonengu5436 Год назад
He was given 5 books to read by Mangena so he wants to practice what he read
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 Год назад
JUDGE IS BUSY MESSING UP THIS CASE....BROWN ENVELOPE GIVEN 😢😢😢😢😢
@imogenemathe6723
@imogenemathe6723 Год назад
He is the judge, prosecutor, witness and defendant. This judge wants to be everything interesting person he is!
@evolution405
@evolution405 Год назад
He needed a 3weeks intensive updating course. A classic corporal old school punishment error. I can imagen if the defence team were his students. He's extremely impatient & always want to be relevant.
@gabisiledladla4404
@gabisiledladla4404 Год назад
Corruption at play. This trial us unfair
@bralucks
@bralucks Год назад
The judge has no respect for defence lawyers but I am happy they stand their ground.
@rita_TM
@rita_TM Год назад
He always wants to win even when he’s wrong. For him it’s about winning not about being correct. I don’t see any fairness as a judge should be fair
@SphaShange-ms7vq
@SphaShange-ms7vq Год назад
Lol😂 so true
@barnettchirwa8209
@barnettchirwa8209 Год назад
Baloyi can't re exermine because my Lord has done that for him what a kangaroo court
@imogenemathe6723
@imogenemathe6723 Год назад
Very much so
@Power-lt5eb
@Power-lt5eb Год назад
Indeed this is a cangaroo court, decision was made long ago that only conviction they want. Just to protect the image of certain people
@nanak1602
@nanak1602 Год назад
😂😂😂😂
@Lenaka_
@Lenaka_ Год назад
The judge is making sure that accused number 3 goes down with that Gun analysis
@gabisiledladla4404
@gabisiledladla4404 Год назад
The state must prove that he was in house..
@gladysmkhize4085
@gladysmkhize4085 Год назад
@@gabisiledladla4404 he doesn't have home he was raining around looking for the place to stay after killing the taxi boss
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 Год назад
​@@gabisiledladla4404excellent comment
@vusishongwe5617
@vusishongwe5617 Год назад
True he concluded which is wrong . He undermines lawyers
@rita_TM
@rita_TM Год назад
But accused 3 already went down for this gun and is currently serving time so they can’t punish him twice for the same crime. They still haven’t proven without reasonable doubt that his gun killed Senzo coz the eye witnesses said it was a revolver that shot Senzo and accused no.3’s gun is not a revolver.
@tpm5273
@tpm5273 Год назад
I think they should just put the judge on the witness stand so he can tell us what actually happened. He seem to know a lot! 😑
@aubreymathe9415
@aubreymathe9415 Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@VernieRollison
@VernieRollison Год назад
This judge should be disciplined. TEFFO would've silenced him
@XolileNene
@XolileNene Год назад
This case is opening our minds ,,, there's no justice is SA
@ndlelalonwabo3093
@ndlelalonwabo3093 Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@hilmandeyanayi500
@hilmandeyanayi500 Год назад
This judge nee he is too much Mr know everything shame
@barnettchirwa8209
@barnettchirwa8209 Год назад
The judge looks like any person coming with a different version will not be allowed as if he has already made his mind. Leave the defence to do the work
@stanleykhumalo5158
@stanleykhumalo5158 Год назад
This judge looks like he has already found the accused guilty
@goodmanmthiyane5611
@goodmanmthiyane5611 Год назад
@krishnareddy4423
@krishnareddy4423 Год назад
I share the same sentiments.
@gabisiledladla4404
@gabisiledladla4404 Год назад
Corruption of judges at play.
@gladysmkhize4085
@gladysmkhize4085 Год назад
@@gabisiledladla4404 really
@mtttttttttttte6205
@mtttttttttttte6205 Год назад
Clearly this gun has a story .why was this not picked up in the alex case but later.mangena is corrupt like Gininda
@BathunywaMzana
@BathunywaMzana Год назад
Respect must be given where is due. Magena is an excellent expert. He has testified in a number of courts. It's just that we as black people have a challenge of accepting black excellance.
@mphomokgatle8243
@mphomokgatle8243 Год назад
Adv Nxumalo is sweet and kind....
@luckyndlovu2926
@luckyndlovu2926 Год назад
Too sweet for my liking in this case.
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
He must continue with that demeanor but sharpen his research skills, confidence and presentation of questions. He has a bright future ❤ viva
@ziyandamaphini4722
@ziyandamaphini4722 Год назад
Mpho!! An Advocate u "sweet"....😂😂😂😂.......
@Ms_Mankotham
@Ms_Mankotham Год назад
If we understand criminal law, this judge is going to surprise many in here.
@Lovetvsa
@Lovetvsa Год назад
Just wait and see, speaking from a criminalistic expert's point of view
@user-if7no9zz4p
@user-if7no9zz4p Год назад
I can't lie, I can't even predict the correct outcome,
@Ms_Mankotham
@Ms_Mankotham Год назад
@@user-if7no9zz4pask yourself why Mosia lied. Now he has to come back
@buyixaba6024
@buyixaba6024 Год назад
He is confusing us . He is very impatient, irritable, undermines the council.... hai he is very unprofessional.
@Ms_Mankotham
@Ms_Mankotham Год назад
@@buyixaba6024he thinks that he is the only person who knows the court proceedings
@True_crime_justice
@True_crime_justice Год назад
Thank you defense council for pushing forward despite all the resistance🙏
@klevayerastamedia4393
@klevayerastamedia4393 Год назад
If the atching process was first done on the firearm for the Alexandra case from what we gather how is it possible that the same firearm was for the second time retrieved the serial number?? We gather that you cannot do the process twice and get the positive results for the second time how was it possible this ime around
@phethedimatji5147
@phethedimatji5147 Год назад
And why would they atch one gun twice, the gun has already been identified Mos.
@Vuyisani
@Vuyisani Год назад
thats why the lab number is written on the fiream after etching, so that they can relate to that gun via the lab number
@goodmanmthiyane5611
@goodmanmthiyane5611 Год назад
Retired, this is a joke.
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
Having watched the whole recording and listened to the judge qoute the Act and the expert text book 📖 at the end 👏👏🙌🙌 , I can only say, u rock my lord 🫠. Hamba my lord, you are cooking with gas my lord. You are a scholar my lord 😊😊. YOUR handling of this case is GIVING my lord 👌😍😘🎉🎉 🙌🙌🙌💡💡
@nkosinathinu6182
@nkosinathinu6182 Год назад
Kodwa why the judge always helping the withness
@mrsboingotlopolitebucksch4682
Cant ramaphosa remove him we can start afresh no problem as long as we have a FAIR one who gives defense chance ya go bua ba sa tsenwe ganong.Ramosepele glad you said that in the perpernity #justice4senzo #RELEASEteffo #ARRESTkellyAndLebandla 🇩🇪🇧🇼😡💔🇿🇦🚮🚩👎🏿
@WillofHopefarmers
@WillofHopefarmers Год назад
I disagree the judge knows what his doing and listens attentively with an understanding but then again seems like south africans know what happened and are used to corruption to the point that they think everything and anyone is corrupt just because he easily gets irritated doesn't mean his corrupt 9 years has passed now we need to get to the bottom of this and justice must be severed
@user-mp9pp5wd2o
@user-mp9pp5wd2o Год назад
If the Judge is not angry he is disturbing the defence, or speaking on behalf of witness and making the prosecutors look stupid
@gloriaberger515
@gloriaberger515 Год назад
I dislike this judge
@sarahmetzler8028
@sarahmetzler8028 Год назад
@@gloriaberger515me too
@Bass0278
@Bass0278 Год назад
His really become ridiculous honestly
@goodmanmthiyane5611
@goodmanmthiyane5611 Год назад
❤ judge Judy
@goodmanmthiyane5611
@goodmanmthiyane5611 Год назад
I hate him, that's why they retired him he is a law unto himself
@samuelmogashane2988
@samuelmogashane2988 Год назад
The witness said that he had 18 bullets sealed and but Mangena said he received 16. Where did the 2 bullets vanished to?
@musacornwell7282
@musacornwell7282 Год назад
Does it matter
@leeroytenga9762
@leeroytenga9762 Год назад
They were shot by the other forensic officer trying to find a match follow the case properly
@mbusomngoma1214
@mbusomngoma1214 Год назад
This judge get paid to be a judge,an advocate and an expert 🙄sometimes a witness...So why not just close this case and tell us who killed Senzo,instead of waisting time ngoba wazi konke!!🤔
@goodmanmthiyane5611
@goodmanmthiyane5611 Год назад
❤ I give up you right, judge and juror
@mbusomngoma1214
@mbusomngoma1214 Год назад
@@goodmanmthiyane5611 And juror 😆
@sibongilejembula5652
@sibongilejembula5652 Год назад
With Tefo other law professionals were quick to report him, saying he is disgrace to their profession. Why are they quiet about this judge. I get that he has nothing to loose since he is retired but I’ve never seen or heard of a judge with so many interruptions. He comes across as bias.
@mbusomngoma1214
@mbusomngoma1214 Год назад
@@sibongilejembula5652 He is definitely bias and he is sure that he wont be removed or reported..
@nandiphanashwa1119
@nandiphanashwa1119 Год назад
U so I love with these lawyers ,and I wonder what I gonna say if it turns out ,ur love with these accused is so overwhelming,😂
@aneshsukdeo1960
@aneshsukdeo1960 Год назад
If these intruders shot the deceased in a struggle has suggested by the state witnesses; the empty bullet or splint bullet found on top of the carboard, is nonsence because this empty cartridges would have fell about 20 to 50 minutes from the shooting on the floor and not on the carboard
@konkehwanqa6260
@konkehwanqa6260 Год назад
That's what the defence should ask actually..
@imogenemathe6723
@imogenemathe6723 Год назад
The judge has already made the verdict case closed. He has collected his brown envelope
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 Год назад
I have been telling people that, when those in the house were taking a stand. Now its even worse and yet people do not see that the judge is already convinced that there were intruders, and he is now convinced beyond reasonable doubt by the ballistic experts that the exhibits are pointing to accuse no:3 and were involved in the Vosloorus case he is presiding on.
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 Год назад
​@@mthokozisilanga4497JUDGE IS TOTALLY CORRUPT N SO IS RAMAPHUUUUUSA WHO DELIBERATELY PUT HIM HERE
@ntombehlubinelani8781
@ntombehlubinelani8781 Год назад
I’m sorry this Judge is not only interfering is undermining the defence .
@rita_TM
@rita_TM Год назад
Yes and redirecting questions… I wasn’t impressed by the judge today
@Vuyisani
@Vuyisani Год назад
that is because the defence's story is that they were not there... now they are busy trying to disprove everything, why if you were not there? just deal with your absence or whatever implicates you... dragging this case but you say you were not there. bangena phi how the bullet was fired if bathi bebe ngekho, the judge is gatvol, nam ndidikiwe, for instance Accused 4 and 5 have not been placed in the house but they will contest what was happening in the house
@thamimpemvane9199
@thamimpemvane9199 Год назад
This judge I could have long called him with her mom if I was a lawyer in this case
@MartinVilakazi-ft9de
@MartinVilakazi-ft9de Год назад
His very bossie in this case acts like he knows it all his very baise
@NtsikiNkosi
@NtsikiNkosi Год назад
I hate these arguments and learning things from the judge infront of us, it gives no respect!
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
This is what happens in courts around the world. We were just brought in this because it is a prominent case and SA wants to know who killed Senzo
@lindipholose6296
@lindipholose6296 Год назад
The case is currently 50/50 It's police negligence and lack of consistency Vs accused killers on the dock who are consistent with crimes. The defence must just bring their own witnesses and experts to have an upper hand All that's left is who proves to the judge beyond reasonable doubt
@magamanevincent6788
@magamanevincent6788 Год назад
There is no 50/50 my sister.. Gininda has fabricated everything so far and I think he is winning maybe 70/30.. Accuse nr 3 is in trouble so far
@user-if7no9zz4p
@user-if7no9zz4p Год назад
"Who proves to the judge beyond reasonable doubt "👌
@japhetkuli1131
@japhetkuli1131 Год назад
The judge made his verdict the very first day he set on that chair , remember he called the accused and spoke about what the charges are and what the outcome could be , that for me he already knew the story behind this case and what he will say about it
@user-fk8js4rt3i
@user-fk8js4rt3i Год назад
Retired judge is now a judge and expert.
@goodmanmthiyane5611
@goodmanmthiyane5611 Год назад
But this judge is interfering with the process,must we not voice our anger because we gonna be threatened by shut down,not fare RU-vid
@Mpume-jl9hz
@Mpume-jl9hz Год назад
Aibo! is it me or the judge is trying to signal the witness while witness is answering Mnisi
@NtsikiNkosi
@NtsikiNkosi Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@Power-lt5eb
@Power-lt5eb Год назад
Indeed a joke . I concure if there is a place where the judiciary supposed to be reported for unethical or partial behaviour, there is one who need to be reported. Its obvious he or she can be seen which side is favouring in a criminal case. Thats injustice from a preciding officer
@sibongilejembula5652
@sibongilejembula5652 Год назад
Let’s start a petition
@phethedimatji5147
@phethedimatji5147 Год назад
Appeal
@tiyaninkondo486
@tiyaninkondo486 Год назад
Is it normal procedure for the judge to answer on behalf of witnesses? Pardon my ignorance i am a layman
@nompendulomatshanda5021
@nompendulomatshanda5021 Год назад
Judge Judge Judge uyadika shame
@phumzagalada6263
@phumzagalada6263 Год назад
Unezothe five fingers nxa
@SonOfTheSoil834
@SonOfTheSoil834 Год назад
May this lawyers milk the money of this bustard ,proven and proud killers until this competent judge sent them for life sentence together with whoever hired them 🙏🏽🙏🏽it can’t be a norm that such people are being protected .
@zodwafakudze183
@zodwafakudze183 Год назад
Unfortunately these thugs did not kill Senzo, they were pinned to this crime shielding Longwe Twala son to Chicco. Hence Kelly called Chicco n never called the police nor the ambulance, afterSenzo was shot by Longwe on arrival in the house finding the friends of Senzo n Senzo with her girlfriend Zandi, who gone mute for the weekend
@rita_TM
@rita_TM Год назад
No one is protecting the accused, the evidence against them is very questionable even the judge can’t help the state here. They literally haven’t connected any of these guys without reasonable doubt to the killing of Senzo.
@dipuoviola7491
@dipuoviola7491 Год назад
I don’t think the defence would go this far if they were guilty, nna to me everything just don’t make sense from the beginning when Senzo was short
@Vuyisani
@Vuyisani Год назад
@@zodwafakudze183 it could be possible Senzo died the way the witnesses say he died, with intruders... it is also possible that the people on trial are not Senzo's killers and that the police found random people to blame... it is also possible that your version is correct. That is why we have a trial. But in my opinion I just have one question, if the accused all say they were not there, why are they arguing how Senzo died? why are they trying to solve this case... they must just argue their lack of presence at the scene, accused 3 he should just bring to light how he came in possession of the gun, got it in KZN, from who, when? if i was the judged i would be annoyed with this haphazard defence
@SonOfTheSoil834
@SonOfTheSoil834 Год назад
@@zodwafakudze183 I wonder what is your level of education .we all had this thoughts at the beginning but with this evidance in front of us things are getting clear ..when was this big story of your created ?can you explain the phone records link ,the pictures of same gun “my killing machine “ taken a day before killing of senzo found in accused no 3 phone ?same gun he was charged with for another case of Alexander ,same gun found in his house .can you explain you sturbon ordinary person..what we should be asking ourself is why is Kelly not with those guys there as accused not what you saying …if courts whr working with this imaginary thoughts of yours instead of material evidance I guess justice system would have been so terrible like you are
@ntombehlubinelani8781
@ntombehlubinelani8781 Год назад
Mr Ratha If ppl in the house are innocent Who killed Senzo ?
@Maktion-zp6gu
@Maktion-zp6gu Год назад
I saw love Mshololo's smile when she questions the witnesses 😊
@mphocosby8118
@mphocosby8118 Год назад
Switikile xemu Mara Xikwembu I xikulu hi kwaswo swita humela I handle
@lwandilewillard7146
@lwandilewillard7146 Год назад
Can this judge let the wetness answer the questions.
@nkosinathinu6182
@nkosinathinu6182 Год назад
You know why they don't found the catrige it's because Longwe came with the 38 pistol so if u knows 38 pistol how it's works
@luckyndlovu2926
@luckyndlovu2926 Год назад
What is required to buy bullets for a gun?
@Itumeleng20791
@Itumeleng20791 Год назад
Even maggie could have picked it up and threw it on the sink while cleaning.
@luckyndlovu2926
@luckyndlovu2926 Год назад
Or the uncle since he's or was the police officer.
@AneleNkosiyane-wp4ws
@AneleNkosiyane-wp4ws Год назад
THIS RETHA JUDGE IS FULL OF NONSENSE SHAME. HE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. HE IS AGAINST THE DEFENSE TEAM. HE HAS CLEARLY MADE UP HIS MIND THAT HE WANTS THE DEFENSE TEAM TO LOSE. HE IS FULL OF NONSENSE. #RATHA_MUST_FALL
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 Год назад
RATHA IS CORRUPT YOH SHOCKING HE HAS NO RIGHTS TO MOCK/SHAME AND EMBARRASS THE DEFENSE NONE WHATSOEVER
@phumzagalada6263
@phumzagalada6263 Год назад
I agree with you he must fall uyanginyanyisa nxa
@lettiemobe2475
@lettiemobe2475 Год назад
The witnesses always protect and cover each other, criminals police😂
@Mpume-jl9hz
@Mpume-jl9hz Год назад
Ratha Ratha Ratha pleeeaaze relax and listen. Your time to make a verdict will come, why you making it obvious. You are such a bore🥱😭
@phethedimatji5147
@phethedimatji5147 Год назад
So information being revealed about the barrel here to criminals is that, they can use a barrel for killing and change it for a clean barrel so that when they get cough the gun would be clean.
@SiyabongaButhelezi-lf3xo
@SiyabongaButhelezi-lf3xo Год назад
😂😂😂😂true indeed very informative case this 1
@Tshegofatso1994
@Tshegofatso1994 Год назад
If the judge would call for case 375, then you'll see the gun story will change. No one wants to go to jail
@magamanevincent6788
@magamanevincent6788 Год назад
Guys can you pls educate me cos I'm lost... What is the criteria that is used in terms of calling the witnesses?.. Previously Baloyi called people from the house including some neighbors and suddenly he calls police officers and girlfriend,, what are they hiding?? We need Longwe, Maphiri, Makhumalo, uMalume and Kelly
@magamanevincent6788
@magamanevincent6788 Год назад
@@estheruthmk OK thanks for the clarity 🙏
@petunialuthuli8267
@petunialuthuli8267 Год назад
I like Nxumalos questioning style.
@lindenimasuku7386
@lindenimasuku7386 Год назад
He is also cool in this nerve-wracking job.
@sylvestermthembu
@sylvestermthembu Год назад
His lines r short n incriminating soft n sweet but poking holes
@Boikanyo_M
@Boikanyo_M Год назад
The judge is brilliant but he seems to be agitated easily he should try to compose emotionally.
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
People who are brilliant like this judge unfortunately are allergic to stupidity and tend to be short tempered in the presence of people who dnt make sense. It takes a lot for them to keep silent, not get irritatated and watch advocates fumble, waste the courts time and state money - we are now paying for the defense as taxpayers.
@thandicindi6413
@thandicindi6413 Год назад
The judge is very uncomfortable with Mshololo’s questions. I wonder why!!
@abriancupido1603
@abriancupido1603 Год назад
The judge tried to disprove the fact that argument by die defence that the barrel are interchangeable with his last question saying anyone cant just change the barrel. Point is the police can. The lawyers to dumb to challenge him on that and he think he won the point and disproved. Someone please ask the defense to look at public comments to assist with their questioning
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 Год назад
This judge is something else, when the witnesses claim that police wrote what they did not say, he believed them, I remember when he defended a witness against the defence he stated himself as a judge that “you know our police moss”. Meaning that the police are compromised, but now that the very same police are testifying he supports and believe them, he no longer knows our police moss. This is an inconsistancy on part of the judge.
@Zulomnyama.
@Zulomnyama. Год назад
When you are told to achieve a certain kind of results.you.control the narrative to make sure it doesnt derail from your expected results.
@goodmanmthiyane5611
@goodmanmthiyane5611 Год назад
We gonna need a VAR in this match
@ntombikaysedanisa8645
@ntombikaysedanisa8645 Год назад
I think he is a brilliant person and it comes with experience cause he listens and never forget what was said. Big up to him. He tells it as he sees it without any favour's or fears. I think that is what we want from this case, to get to the bottom of this case. The lawyers are doing their jobs to free their clients regardless of the information that is before them.
@WillofHopefarmers
@WillofHopefarmers Год назад
I fully agree just that we as viewers have our own theories that clouds our judgements and end up thinking the judge is biased or protecting the witness we just have to be patient cause no one knows what truly happened
@Lovetvsa
@Lovetvsa Год назад
I loved forensics but unfortunately I had to say goodbye because saps became so corrupt and senior officials would steal the exhibit from the crime scene to save the suspect and protect their payroll from gangsters , it's tough in Capetown area guys tjoo. But atleast I still have my life.
@hanspretorius4019
@hanspretorius4019 Год назад
Housewife
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
True
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
​@@WillofHopefarmers uqinisile people are not partial and want to hear what they want to hear to favour their theory. Any thing else they say a person is bought
@kedibonekgomo671
@kedibonekgomo671 Год назад
I've never seen such an intervention like this by the judge in courts that i attended i wonder if the afri forum is looking at this,if so let them plz intervene and call the judge to order.we are tired of him
@mandlajnrgmail.youresomadi5267
True indeed
@aneshsukdeo1960
@aneshsukdeo1960 Год назад
Compare the pathologists evidence when he said on his own version that the shooting occurred from top to bottom, logic will tell you that the empty cartridge would have felll down next to the deceased about 20 and 50 metres and not on top of a carboard
@botanamahlaba7252
@botanamahlaba7252 Год назад
Do you know difference between cartridge and projetile?
@baloyicraig339
@baloyicraig339 Год назад
Obviously he made mistake he's talking about the project tile exiting the victim i tear his lungs going down.. so why exit and be on top
@XolileNene
@XolileNene Год назад
I am already surprised by his behavior 😢
@trustyguriras9607
@trustyguriras9607 Год назад
To carry the exhibit to home its also unprocedural and the misduct and very obviousto be tempered with, adv mnisi ur a brilliant lawyer
@goodmanmthiyane5611
@goodmanmthiyane5611 Год назад
18 and 10 what happened to two cause now there's 16 according to Mangena
@NtsikiNkosi
@NtsikiNkosi Год назад
Ngeke sisho ukuth kusaseyiso isbhamu,cause exibitbags are received open so we can not say ,we do not know ,infact it is not the same firearm
@lettiemobe2475
@lettiemobe2475 Год назад
Mangena, bring back the bullets😢😢😢😅😅😅
@ntombehlubinelani8781
@ntombehlubinelani8781 Год назад
Mr Judge give the defence a chance please I don’t think the Judge is really neutral in this case. The ppl in the box are not innocent The people in the house are not innocent so just just be fair
@nandiphanashwa1119
@nandiphanashwa1119 Год назад
Give them a chance to do what,so the judge must let the defence to mislead and misquote the witnesses,mo giys
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
I came from ENCA streaming to just send u ❤ my lord ❤. I heard ziyaduma la ku SABC streaming and uyathukwa kuma comments my lord. Ngithi power to you my lord🙌, ngithi sukuma my lord🎓. Qhubeka my Lord, uzanayo nicely my Lord🧠. Sekuyavela my lord💡👀. Unganaki abakuthukayo my lord. They crucified uJesus my lord eGolgotha 😇, uyini wena? They accused uMaumela of the same and said he was bought to defeat the end of justice. Now bakuwe my lord. Phambili my Lord 🙌🙌🇿🇦🇿🇦💚
@grecnioncarolus1531
@grecnioncarolus1531 Год назад
This judge wanna be a lawyer, witness, expert and a judge at the very same time. Slimgat
@MartinVilakazi-ft9de
@MartinVilakazi-ft9de Год назад
His judge he already made his judgment a long time ago, and he undermined the defense team
@aneshsukdeo1960
@aneshsukdeo1960 Год назад
Magena must be charged for defeating the ends of justice
@lindenimasuku7386
@lindenimasuku7386 Год назад
I don't want to believe him, I am waiting for the defense's ballistic expert to give his own version.
@Thabzalzk
@Thabzalzk Год назад
Why are they able to cross-examine Roelofse who is a Ballistics expert but need their own expert to examine Mangena. Time wasting in my view
@smangelengubane8181
@smangelengubane8181 Год назад
No man I want advocate Mshololo 👌👌👌👌👌
@ambrosmandega8366
@ambrosmandega8366 Год назад
Justice must prevail 💪
@krishnareddy4423
@krishnareddy4423 Год назад
The other day the ballistic expert mentioned that the one type of bullet was a police or military training item.The defense ought to have questioned as to where did they get the bullets from.
@Cybersecurty_world
@Cybersecurty_world Год назад
True
@abriancupido1603
@abriancupido1603 Год назад
They dont know how to ask the right questions
@thuts77
@thuts77 Год назад
They did ask you were not listening attentively
@dipuoviola7491
@dipuoviola7491 Год назад
What if judge want all these witnesses to incriminate themselves
@aneshsukdeo1960
@aneshsukdeo1960 Год назад
Wrong question; it should have been like this; the correct procedure in the saps; the investigating officer must book the exhibit out in the saps 13 and hand it over to the ballistic administrative department for analysis and not the way magena went about fetching the expert; has to be viewed with jaundice eye
@tshiamoslick4384
@tshiamoslick4384 Год назад
Baloi=forcing incriminating evidence with SAPS and powerful cartel. All stakeholders in their project knows the truth about who and how was Senzo killed. Life style audit of all those involved is necessary. All police officers were promoted. Det Sergeant Mabunda okae ?
@bhekimsimang8476
@bhekimsimang8476 Год назад
Baised jugde
@lwandileradebe7028
@lwandileradebe7028 Год назад
No sound this side, maybe its becouse of the tv license😢
@busisiweshezi9297
@busisiweshezi9297 11 месяцев назад
Sanibona bahlali benkantolo yomphakathi # Justice for Senzo Meyiwa family and children
@leslientlatseng3114
@leslientlatseng3114 Год назад
I used to like the judge but now I doubt him he is too much of his own when it comes to advocates he interrupt most of the time
@user-or6yg2jr4f
@user-or6yg2jr4f Год назад
Advocates are humbled 😂😅
@vusishongwe5617
@vusishongwe5617 Год назад
Too much
@Lovetvsa
@Lovetvsa Год назад
I liked how eager to learn this judge is, hey he is updating himself.
@goodmanmthiyane5611
@goodmanmthiyane5611 Год назад
Mshololo the great one mthathe
@gladysmkhize4085
@gladysmkhize4085 Год назад
They must tell the truth who hire them to pretend to be thugs and kill Senzo only Senzo
@mthokozisilanga4497
@mthokozisilanga4497 Год назад
Inkabi will not pretend to be a robber, it enters the house knowing who to k!ll, yes they can get an identity wrong and k!ll the wrong person and leave, but in most cases they do not leave the witnesses. If we claim that they were sure who to k!ll they shoot them and leave, no wrestling with the pple in the hse. We know how they operate, they do not pretend to rob the taxi owner, they gun them down. The intruder story is a lie.
@WillofHopefarmers
@WillofHopefarmers Год назад
That theory makes sense to me as well someone hired this hitmen then lied and said it was a robbery
@qiniselahlangu-in2tz
@qiniselahlangu-in2tz Год назад
Lo judge unamasimbha
@barnettchirwa8209
@barnettchirwa8209 Год назад
I hear another witness on the bench adding on to the witness in the box
@naledisenne6306
@naledisenne6306 Год назад
Remove Ratha .please
@vusishongwe5617
@vusishongwe5617 Год назад
This judge is too rich he only drives Lamborghini only, he was a share holder of kaizer chiefs. He withdrawn all his shares. Rich man
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
Wow I like him, street wise, a Soweto boy. I am impressed by his journey honestly. Isaac Morisson high school, soccer player, judge - brilliant mind ❤❤
@lindilepoulose2354
@lindilepoulose2354 Год назад
Leli jaji linenkiga when it comes to the side of lamloya
@hlazo1
@hlazo1 Год назад
Why does he have to reply for witness nxaa
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 Год назад
Yes yes yes
@kedibonekgomo671
@kedibonekgomo671 Год назад
Where did the police take to the box of bullets they found on top of the walldrobe of the accused no 3?what did they do with them?
@lettiemobe2475
@lettiemobe2475 Год назад
It looks like the judge is just here to prosecute the offenders
@snathamanzinyezi8676
@snathamanzinyezi8676 Год назад
Haibo u judge
@tinyikondobe3377
@tinyikondobe3377 Год назад
Expert Witness schooling those attorneys.
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
I love it viva ❤
@thokomasondo9687
@thokomasondo9687 Год назад
Mr Ratha to the defence ?not make sure
@luckyndlovu2926
@luckyndlovu2926 Год назад
He's very emotional.
@RomeoRidge-ny6xh
@RomeoRidge-ny6xh Год назад
It's surprising ukuthi icala liyathethwa ngamanga lize liyophela
@phethedimatji5147
@phethedimatji5147 Год назад
Very sad
@user-or6yg2jr4f
@user-or6yg2jr4f Год назад
Ramosipile should be mentored by advocate mnisi and mshololo just for a period of 1 year
@luckyndlovu2926
@luckyndlovu2926 Год назад
Nxumalo needs that training too.
@Cybersecurty_world
@Cybersecurty_world 10 месяцев назад
Precedure 2:33:20
@chellinahgirlymhlanga6025
@chellinahgirlymhlanga6025 Год назад
This judge is too much,is there any organization that regulates the judges?for example lawyers can be reported to law society,is there anywhere this judge can be reported?hhayi mann ,he is too much,treating the difence counsels like they r stupid and uneducated,mnxm this Mr know it all😠
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 Год назад
Soo true 😢😢😢 I wouldn't mind reporting him myself if I know how to go about it SHOCKING BEHAVIOR
@sushelarajkumar367
@sushelarajkumar367 Год назад
On Monday he must testify 😅😅😅
@user-km9nv2gn1l
@user-km9nv2gn1l Год назад
This judge is getting into my nerves,trust me
@barnettchirwa8209
@barnettchirwa8209 Год назад
My Lord is caught between two horns on the possibility of changing Barrell on the gun,
@dipuoviola7491
@dipuoviola7491 Год назад
I’m interested to know why Ramosepele is demanding the accused bank statement
@tebogoletsogo8743
@tebogoletsogo8743 Год назад
The accused said that he was back home on that day to pay lobola, he even withdrew money the same day to go pay lobola.
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263
@therealmncwanegwabeni7263 Год назад
One witness claims he was in Rustenberg on the day and withdrew money that day. The bank statement is an alibi. Another said he was home in KZN paying lobolo or something like that. Hence I dnt understand why Sipho, Nxumalo and Mshololo want to get involved is bringing a ballistic expert witness at a cost when only Mnisi's client is linked to the gun and was found with it. They need to sit somethings out honestly and let Mnisi defend his client.
@thandikhosa7489
@thandikhosa7489 Год назад
He once said tge accused was not in jo'burg the tie of Senzo's death. His statement will prove that he witthdrew money from durban on that day.
@skhumbuzompungose1208
@skhumbuzompungose1208 Год назад
King of the judicial ❤❤❤❤❤
@Zulomnyama.
@Zulomnyama. Год назад
Who choose and reactivated a retired judge and why specifically him out of all others current active and retired...i used to see these things happening in the movies...never knew i will see one in my lifetime...
@KhurishiNgwato
@KhurishiNgwato Год назад
The defence lawyers misfires
@Mpume-jl9hz
@Mpume-jl9hz Год назад
Ay! This judge 😂
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