Separate Ways (Instructional keyboard tutorial) 

Wow...thanks for your kind comments! To be honest, I can only play the songs I've learned...which isn't many...LOL But, I'm glad you've had fun playing along to them! 🙂

You are right! As others have commented, it appears to be an E-flat diminished chord. :-)

YEAAAAAAH

Hahaha! Thanks! :-)

How do you get it to sound exactly like the actual song? I can’t seem to get it to work on my keyboard

@@TheDarkOne_Rumplestiltskin If your keyboard is a fully-editable synthesizer, you should be able to get the sound close. If it is a "consumer-grade" keyboard (i.e. usually one with speakers), it may be more difficult. Basically, the sound is based on two sawtooth waves which have been slightly detuned against one another. That is what give it a "full" sound. The attack will be crisp, while the release will let the sound "ring out".

@@goatghost oh. My keyboard doesn’t have that. It has something similar, though. It has synth strings

@@TheDarkOne_Rumplestiltskin A “synth strings” patch would probably be the closest. You would need to shorten the “attack time” and, possibly, adjust the “release time”.

Thank you very much! :-)

Thank you very much! 🙂

Thanks, man! Coming from an incredible player like yourself, it means a lot to me. :-) I'll have to check out your "scopes", later.

+goatghost for sure ty :)

Glad you found it helpful! :-)

Thank you very much!!! :-)

Hey there...actually, I did a search for "Separate Ways MIDI file" and downloaded one from a free MIDI file website (not sure which site, but most sites usually all pass around the same free version available for download). Keep in mind that some versions that people create are of higher quality (fills, dynamics, precision, etc.) than others. So, you might need to download and listen to several of them, before you find one you can use. Anyway, once downloaded, you can use a computer-based sequencer (if you don't own one, there are a few free ones out there) to strip out all the tracks, except the drum track (which is usually on channel 10). After you strip it, you would save as a standard MIDI file (.mid) on a compact flash card in the proper directory (I think it's the "SEQ" directory, if I'm not mistaken) and pop that in your Fantom. I added 8 stick clicks at the beginning for a count-off. I have created my own drum sequences, when I couldn't find a song I wanted (or, when the quality of the one that is generally available is poor). But, it's a lot easier just to use someone else's (if it's free). If I'm desperate (or I just don't want to spend 6+ hours programming an accurate drum part), I'll even buy a MIDI file.

robmlisanti Thank you! :-)

Thank you very much! :-)

Thank you very much! :-)

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Thanks, Mike! Glad you enjoyed it. :-)

Thank YOU! Glad to see you find it useful! :-)

Thank you very much! :-)

¡Muchas gracias! El teclado es un Roland Fantom X7.

Thank you very much! :)

Thank you very much! :-)

Wow...thanks, Keith! Much appreciated. :-)

Thanks!!! :-D

Thank you very much! :-)

Actually, I'm trying to learn "Faithfully", now. I'm not really a piano player, so it could take some time. But, if I master it, I will definitely post it! :-)

Thanks, Bill! :-)

Glad you found it useful! :-)

Thanks, AJ! :-)

Wow...thanks, Noah! I'm not sure it's 100% accurate (especially, with the diminished chord I've left out), but I think it's close. :-)

goatghost I saw on another comment you were trying to learn Faithfully I don’t mean to be greedy or rush you or anything but can you try and learn When You Love A Woman? I’ve been trying to learn it but the only tutorials I found were incomplete and the other was sped up to the point I thought Barry Allen was playing it

Hey Noah...unfortunately, I'm kind of in a "maintenance mode", as far as learning new songs. I haven't really worked on anything new, but I will keep "When You Love A Woman" in mind when I do. :-)

Estoy usando sólo la reverberación y el coro. Gracias por su pregunta! :-)

Hmm...are you talking about the break at 3:49? You have me wondering if I'm playing it wrong...lol

¡Hola, Christopher! Creo que el único efecto que utilicé fue la reverberación. ¡Gracias!

Thank you very much! Unfortunately, that patch that I'm using is a modified patch which requires the Roland SRX-07 Ultimate Keys Expansion Board (~$240-$300 on eBay). But, you ***CAN*** get a close approximation by creating a basic patch which uses two tones. Just use the wave INT A 557 "P5 Saw HD" for each tone, detune one of them by +6 cents and the other by -6 cents, add some chorus using the built-in chorus effect, and set the release time (within "TVA ENV") for each wave to something like "60". It should sound pretty passable...very close, actually. :-)

Hey there, Galaxian03 Chuck...unfortunately, in order to get the EXACT sound, with the waveform(s) that I used, you will need the Roland SRX-07 Ultimate Keys expansion card. They go for as low as $220 on eB@y and it is DEFINITELY worth the price, especially if you want sounds for classic rock, 80s rock, 70s rock, new wave, pop, etc. As for getting the EXACT sound...please check out my "Subdivisions" video. You can find it within the "Tom's Covers/Instructional Videos" section of my RU-vid channel (the channel you are viewing). I use the same sound for that song and, if you look at the comments section, there is a comment from a poster named "Jim Fitzgerald" which I respond to. In my response, I give all the necessary parameters to get the EXACT sound. :-) Good luck!

@@goatghost ... good sir, for some reason, RU-vid includes your closing parens when I try to click the link to your "Subdivisions" video in the comment above, so I'll end this comment with the link without the parenthesis. The comment / explanation he references over this is super useful to this sound / synth neophyte, so strongly recommend to the original commenter here if he's still after this info: SUBDIVISION VIDEO: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9V1-9jUjzRg.html

Thanks, Garrett. I'm not sure why I couldn't get the link to work, even after putting spaces before and after the link. But, I've updated my earlier comment, suggesting that any users just check out the "Tom's Covers/Instructional Videos" section of my channel. :-)

You are correct! In the past, I had considered playing that part with my MIDI foot controller (since I don't have 3 hands), but that requires just too much coordination and concentration. Instead, I have the bass player in the band play the part with his MIDI foot controller. :-)

@@goatghost On live performances, the Journey Keyboardist actually plays that part with his left hand but anyways none the less, an excellent cover. You are right, it requires a lot of coordination.

Interesting! That's something I never knew. Thanks for your comments. :-)

Thanks, Maximo! I am on holiday, right now, but I will try to get you that information when I get home. The sound is being produced only by the Fantom. I am not sure if I tweaked an existing patch or created my own. Basically, it is a patch consisting of two sawtooth waves which have been detuned slightly (+2 cents on one and -2 cents on the other). It is possible that chorus is added, as well. Reverb is definitely added. The patch has a medium-long release...just long enough for the notes to lead into one another, but not long enough to make is sound muddy. Interestingly, the patch that I am using does not sound exactly like the patch that Jonathan Cain uses on the original version. I believe the original patch has sort of a brassy "wah" sound to it.

Thanks, but I did not program the drums. Per my other post, I downloaded a "Separate Ways" Standard MIDI File off the Internet and stripped out everything but the drum track. You should be able to do the same thing with a computer and your Roland VR-09. 🙂

Thanks, Vagner! If you would like the MIDI drum file, post your email address and I will send it to you. Keep in mind that it is only the MIDI drum track and it has no other instruments at all. You may want to add quarter note clicks to the beginning of the track, so that you can come in at the right time.

@@goatghost wow !!! Thanks for your answear !!! And Sorry for my english... I'm a brasilian... Yes, i like só much to have this MIDI... My e-mail Vagnerbrentan77@gmail.com. thanks for your care !!! Hugs my friend !!!

@@acasadosom Tudo bem, meu amigo. Eu confio no Google para traduzir do inglês para o português, então não tenho idéia do que estou escrevendo ... hahaha

@@goatghost ahaha Very Nice !!! Me too, but my english is so Very bad !!! Thanks for your attention !!!

+Osvaldo Villagran ¡Wow! ¡Tiene razón! Nunca me di cuenta de eso. Muchas gracias por su corrección y para sus elogios que. (Ahora, tengo que corregirlo. :-) )

Hey Donald...it appears that the Roland VR-09 has the ability to play Standard MIDI FIles (SMF format). So, you can search for and download a "Separate Ways" SMF (Type 1, which has the tracks separated) off the Internet, strip down everything by the drums on a computer, and transfer it to your VR-09, via a USB stick. That's what I did (i.e. I did not program the drums). 🙂

You are absolutely right! I've adjusted the progression since this video was made. Thanks! :-)

Thanks, Marcus! Much appreciated!

Per my comment below..."Basically, it is a patch consisting of two sawtooth waves which have been detuned slightly (+2 cents on one and -2 cents on the other). It is possible that chorus is added, as well. Reverb is definitely added. The patch has a medium-long release...just long enough for the notes to lead into one another, but not long enough to make is sound muddy." The sound was custom programmed/modified.

Thank you very much! It's not perfect, but I think it is somewhat accurate (to my ears, anyway). 🙂

I downloaded a Standard MIDI File (SMF) of the song off the Internet (not sure from where, but there are lots of them out there), and stripped out everything but drums. :)

+Luis Romero Gracias! :-)

Thanks, man! :-)

Yeah, I made a mistake, there, which I've since corrected (it was discussed elsewhere in this thread). I believe it's B-major, with a D# in the bass, actually. 😀

@@goatghost oh my bad, its actually a D augmented (D chord raise the root 1/2 step) , thanks again your demos are a big help.

@@goatghostD# dim?

@@MemphisMike901 Yeah, I believe you are right. 🙂

Yes, you are right. One other person commented on that. It was something I hadn't noticed, before. Thanks for pointing that and your kind words. :-)

Actually you're both wrong. It's a D# diminished. Right hand notes: A-D#-F#. So the final 3 chords ending that phrase are D major, D# diminished, E minor. Right hand notes: A-D-F#, A-D#-F#, B-E-G.

Agréé with you, it's not the good chord !!! It's a B/D#