🤔 it is up for debate … I personally like sepultura, 75% of people can’t even pronounce the bands name and maybe 2% can even name two songs by sepultura! They’re awesome but not one of the greatest metal bands in history!
Really hope you try “Desperate Cry”. Sepultura has a bit of everything for different musical tastes, from thrash to groove… and Desperate Cry is soooo up your alley! Thanks!
I literally requested Desperate Cry on their patreon and donated money for it a long time ago. Knowing they would love the main riff. They ignored my request.
“Territory” was the move here, not “Refuse/Resist”. I knew that d-beat part wouldn’t play well, but if you guys give them another shot, “Territory” is the song to go with.
Territory is the song that makes Sepultura a special band, it’s the song that both of you will love cuz it’s groovy and it actually has sick transitions
The version of territory that’s on the 25th anniversary album with the drummer they have now, Eloy Casagrande, who is a metal prodigy, but George doesn’t like metal vocals. And I think that’s it with Sepultura. I don’t think George is coming around on the vocals. Although the 25th anniversary album does have Devin Townsend singing on it but it’s metal Devin Townsend
Ah come on man, this shit is iconic. The riffs, the simplicity and the abrupt tempo change are actually iconic things within the song and genre. It’s meant to be jarring but then simple. This shit changed my life when I heard it. You have to get in the headspace to enjoy this rather than expect a predicable flow.
From this album Territory which Gojira and Deftones regularly cover or Propaganda are the picks for me. Cut Throat from Roots is also gold. Love your work as always.
There's some song that is not for ryan and george. In their case Territory, Desperate Cry, Nomad, Altered State, Propaganda and Straighthate, are more their style.
I think it is relatively easy to make a reaction video to a song that you really like. I'd imagine it's much more difficult to listen and react to a song that you're not into. But you guys do a great job either way. Instead of simply dismissing the song and checking out, you manage to look deeper and find a way to relate to the song objectively while providing intelligent commentary. That's what makes your reactions so appealing!
Chaos A.D. is their best in my opinion. It was such a big influence on me and spoke to my own developing political beliefs (that didn't go anywhere, I'm a office drone now!) and the awareness of the larger musical spectrum. Really creative, intense and genuine. Wish they liked this one more.
Chaos AD Marks a turning point in the history of this band. Although they made two superb thrash-albums they developed away from pure thrash to more hardcore and tribal influences, which made them very unique.
@@neplusultra4196 I love Schizophrenia, fantastic album. Btw, there's an amazing Modern Blackened Thrash band called Schizophrenia that I highly recommend checking out if you like brutal Thrash/Death metal. They have 3 releases so far: 1) Voices Ep, 2) Recollections Of The Insane, 3) an Ep of cover songs they released several months ago called Chants Of The Abyss. I highly recommend giving them a listen, fantastic band from Belgium!
You MUST check out territory from this same album, i think it's gonna be Ryan's shit. It should even have been the first song you heard from sepultura IMO. One of the grooviest heaviest sounds ever made
back in 93 this song was a game changer and of course the whole album, kicking the thrash scene in the balls. This is legendary. BUT this is typical generational music (as grunge would be too). If you were into rebellious art around that time, Chaos AD was, as Far Beyond Driven, State of the World Adress, and some others, the real thing.
Dude is right. TERRITORY was the move, NOT Refuse/Resist! Territory is more representative of Sepultura and have smooth groove riffs to them. You can't make a quick decision about Sepultura and their music without listening to Territory. I mean, really.
@@Kibelokoable kkkkk pode recomendar os vc quiser bicho,e eu posso discordar tb..e ta tudo ok... agora na minha opiniao vc exagerou em "contém nosso sangue brasileiro "...metade dos fãs na época odiaram.essa música feita p.gringo...
You like groove, breakdowns and mid-paced chug. You usually don't like pure thrash, which is super moshable, fast and aggressive rhytms. Not liking Slayer, Anthrax, Exodus? That's not liking thrash.
F*CK. YES!!! A little bummed you guys didnt like it more, BUT, thats why we appreciate your reactions. Check out the Hatebreed cover...freakin sick! Keep rocking, gentlemen!
12:00 Sorry, but you cannot just pick one song from the whole album such as Chaos A.D. and make your opinion on the band. "Refuse/resist" is an intro song that literally has 2 catchy riffs, that make up like 3% of the whole of that great album.
That transition from absolute chaos and madness to the order of brutal but groovy riffs is one of the highlights of this song for me! I was hoping you would just love it but that’s ok even if you didn’t :) Enjoying the reaction!
Chaos AD was the transition to more groove based, almost maybe the first nu metal album. Sepultura has never really fit into any of the subgenres. Starting straddling black metal and thrash, then death and thrash. Chaos AD was groovier with more indigenous sounds… I never really considered Chaos a thrash album.
Thrash is not for Ryan and at least he gets it now. It's painful watching him cringe every time a d-beat or skunk beat comes along. I feel like I don't want to see him suffer anymore. The mid-tempo thrash that Ryan likes is there to give the aggression and speed more kick once it goes *cymbal choke* | *cymbal choke* | *fast fill* | *d-beat*. The whole influence of Punk music is a big defining element of thrash as a genre. I can respect the dislike and love the boys to no end and on non-metal music our tastes align more often than not (Massive Attack again when?), but I need to make my peace with them actually *not getting* a lot of elements that make certain genres of metal what they are. Much love.
Sepultra is just as important of a groove metal band as they are a thrash band. This song kinda does a hard mesh of both sub genres the transitions are sudden but def brutal and energy filled
Territory is the ESSENTIAL Sepultura track. It’s heavy, it grooves, has mosh parts and parts that I believe even non-metal fans can dig. I think two songs that are “newer” in Sepultura’s catalog you guys should listen to are the title track off “Kairos” and Dialog. Much like Territory. They have heavy moments, groove and some melody.
Sepultura songs are often about past communist / corrupt GOV in Brazil...we can relate here in the US almost word for word now on these songs. Understand what was just said.
Damn....I wish you guys would do Desperate Cry (Especially the live version from Spain in the early 90's) Or Altered States....Arise, as an album is a cavalcade of bangers that slap.
Love the channel... but seems like you've reacted to every metal genre but black metal....bands like Burzum, Taake, Gorgoroth, Darkthrone, Mayhem, Emperor, IUrgehal, Immortal, Ulver, Windir, Tsjuder, Carpathian Forest or even newer bands like Djevel. You should!
I listened to this album on repeat back in the 90s. Talk about an iconic release, this was MASSIVE!! It still holds up today. Amazing album all the way through.
Refuse/Resist was the first song I've listen from Sepultura. I was some 15 years old somewhere in Romania. It opened my ears to metal. Then metal opened them to all kind of music. I think it's a high possibility that this song made me realize there are beautiful songs in every genre of music. Startig from tribal, ethno, passing through all that is considered commercial and finishing with nordic black metal, Meshuggah or Tool. I bet this was the song.
Try listening to the band SOUL FLY..The singer/guitarist stared a new band after leaving ST...It's much more groovier and bouncy...Sepeltura had very tribal and social conscious lyrics and have influenced countless bands including the mighty GOJIRA who cover the ST song TERRITORIES in concert 🤘✌️🧐
"Rattamahatta" might be more appealing to Ryan. (A) It's one of their most rhythm-forward tracks, and (B) it features Carlinhos Brown on co-lead vocals, and he's *not* a metal singer. Fun fact: Joe Duplantier from Gojira played bass for Cavalera Conspiracy, which was the band founding Sepultura members Max (guitars, vocals) and Igor Cavalera (drums) started after they split from Sepultura.
You guys should try a track by Killer Be Killed, which is a supergroup with Sepultura's (now ex-)vocalist, Troy from Mastodon, Dillinger Escape Plan's singer (remember them?) and the drummer from Converge, who are also sick. They all have very distinct styles but it works surprisingly well
Chaos A.D. isn't a thrash album, their last thrash record was Arise. Chaos A.D. was a departure into a more groove metal type of sound with more hardcore influence.
I consider this band in the death metal category, not thrash. Sepultura took the very early rough death metal sound (bands like Death) and polished it and gave the genre some mainstream attention. There are some abrupt transitions in some songs, but in others there are less abrupt ones. Meaningless Movements is a good example. Their cover of Orgasmatron by Motorhead is fabulous.
Don't like Max vocals.. time to listen to current Sepultura, then! Machine Messiah, please? C'mon.. but the fans are elitist s***heads... only Max era is good, right? -.- Lost in Vegas will surely like Derrick's voice. And newer Sepultura is very technical.
Sepultura's best album is "Arise" and from the album "Chaos AD" you'll love "Territory" if you'd react to.German Thrash bands are also on the top and Kreator - Enemy of God is an awesome choice.
The song ''Refuse/Resist'' talks about a reality present not only in BraSil but throughout Latin America, a reality taken by corruption, social inequality, and false promises. Refuse Resist is about resisting oppression and refusing false ideas, and the most surprising thing is that it is timeless, it reflects today. The entire ''Chaos AD'' is surprising, if I can give you a good tip, I would recommend the song ''Territory''. But if you want to have a mind blowing experience, the music is PROPAGANDA. Max Cavalera its a genius, believe me!
I love Refuse/Resist... such powerful riffs, straightforward lyrics and a raw primal feel to almost every song they produced makes Sepultura to me one of my fav bands of all time.
You might dig SoulFly, a side project! Witnessed Sepultura live on their Beneath the Remains tour. In a small punk rock club that fits maybe 200 people and that’s a tightly squashed 200.
Obviously entitled to your opinions guys & totally get why you might not like this but this song is great imo. They're raw, savage & primal & that's their point. Chaos AD! Metal is angry music for angry people. Sepultura aren't angry because mummy didn't love them, they're god damn furious because the world's going to shit!
Not to beat a dead horse, but one of the main elements of Thrash is Hardcore Punk. Bands like Metallica and Megadeth, who are among the progenitors of Thrash are more on the Heavy Metal side of the Thrash spectrum than bands like Slayer and Sepultura, who are more on the Hardcore Punk end of things. This album in particular marked an even more decidedly Punk direction than their previous four albums. It’s cool if you don’t care for it, but Sepultura are one of the biggest bands ever specifically due to their rawness and aggression. Glad you both picked up on that, but I swear if you both were to revisit this song in a few month, it’ll hit different and you’ll probably enjoy it a lot more. Sepultura are an acquired taste. You either get them right away or it takes some repeated exposure.
Chaos AD as an album still a masterpiece because of the overall ambiance it has, maybe the last from the Cavalera era but to me, and you seems agreed to that since you showed love for Dead embryonic cells, the album Arise was the true peak of the group. If politically i don't remember any compromission of them, musically i do find it with the Roots album when at this time thrash band had through days making music and grunge (later new metal) was taking the spot. Commercially it was a compromission, nice review
You guys should react to these Sepultura songs to: Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos (Public Enemy cover) Agony of Defeat Means to an End Bullet the Blue Sky
So AWESOME that you guys did something off Chaos AD!!!! Its my favorite album in the whole wide world! Refuse/resist has its place as messy live riot energy song.. wouldn’t use it to show someone… especially off that album with so many greats.. but yeah. I’m just so happy you tried it ❤️ thank you for all you do and Happy New Year!!! 🎉
Maybe you could try some post Max Cavalera songs. I think “Nation” is a very underestimated album, by the way. And the Max Cavalera era is essentially that: brutality.
It is easy to contextualize, in South America it was full of military dictatorships (mostly fascists) between the 60s and 80s. And most of the avant-garde music (including rock and metal) that was made at that time called to the resistance.
Their new stuff is legit. Only one original member but the two most recent albums are good. They were wavering for a bit, I dunno what harpooned but something clicked with the last two releases
Nailbomb - World of Shit Its a Max Cavalera side project that only produced one *incredible* album. Theres great tracks all across it, I just think this ones got the best groove.
If you know the metal these guys like,they aren't going to enjoy much after Arise. For this reason I am still waiting for them to react to Megadeth's Set the World's Afire and Wake Up Dead. Right up their alley.
The right choices for Sepultura that you guys haven't done are Territory, Attitude, and Desperate Cry. Some of these recent choices have been a little bit too deep cut. Not so much deep cut for Sepultura fans but for people unfamiliar with them.
The problem is that you have listened to so many high technical stuff before, like gojira, opeth, etc. Sepultura is more raw. You have to listen with this in mind.
Don’t forget guys,when this album came out thrash were almost buried by Grunge and kind of nu metal in the making,so imo that was one of the reasons sepultura changed their sound.but I’m sure this album is the weakest comparing to the very first 4 albums those are legenday.
