Test Test for reals look at Arnold he’s ripped and older. No excuses yankee! Make a changes in your diet and workout with plenty of rest and you will see lots of positive change.
It's called self-deprecating humor and it's meant to be ironic. He's in fairly decent shape, and he wouldn't be making jokes like that if he actually were decrepit.
His channel isn’t about 1 certain thing. He makes content on whatever he wants. His words, not mine. Also, his content is also dependent on viewer request - being that if there’s a question worth making a video he usually does.
Ok buddy. Thats why i run a glock 17 as a competition gun. Only modifications are a stock glock 34 adjustable rear sight i got for free(they are like $12 anyway), a hogue handal grip i paid $13 for, and a ghost 3.5# connector and hand polish with install i paid $45 for. So for my stock glock 17 gen 4 and another $58, i have a competition gun. How much did you spend on your stock 1911? Not bashing, id love to have one sooner than later, but glocks are around for a reason.
skiball83 OK and I normally do not do this but here goes. I will not bash your glock for what it is. It is an expensive disposable gun. It does the job period. It is the Toyota Camry of the gun world. Please do not take this the wrong way but it is not a Cadillac, it is not even a Lincoln, it is not the Avalon it is just a Camry. You buy it and it gets you from point a to point b. You can put $1000 in it but why would you? Plastic sights, spongy trigger, plastic mags = glock perfection. Buy one it works as it should. Do not spend any extra money on it. If it fails or god forbid you have to use it for a "good shoot" and lose it go buy another one. That is what it was designed for.
skiball83 1911's have been around for over a century for a reason. They're just that good. Young guys have this idea that they're terrible because of horror stories from old time vets, they never get the part about the abuse those old war guns took, but still functioned. Or they think they're not accurate because, historically, the military spends about five minutes training on pistol use. Then, it's taught it's a last resort, point blank option. The truth is that a 1911 is very reliable, and very accurate. And will out last any poly-gun. Many of the 1911's that the military finally got rid of, just a few years ago, were dated back to the World Wars. There are already news releases, all over the interwebz, about Gen 1 Glock frames failing. That's only a 30 year old gun. These idiots spouting "I've carried my Glock for 20 years, and I'll carry it for life!" Don't shoot. Is a 1911 perfect? no. Is a Glock perfect? I'd say that five "generations", with more changes coming, proves not. Oh, btw, here's some Glock trivia for you: The striker-fire system was developed by John Moses Browning, ALONGSIDE the 1911. As Colt was heavily invested in marketing the 1911 for the American market, they chose to sell the Striker design to Fabrique, with a non-competition clause. The first Striker Fire pistol was the Fabrique Model 1900, which saw moderate popularity in Europe, and was replaced by the Model 1922. The first polymer framed pistol was released by H&K, in 1970. The only thing Glock did was take two designs, mash them together, and pay a movie producer a couple of million dollars to have "John McClane" give a two minute false advertising rant about his gun in Die Hard 2. Without that movie Glock would have never become a "thing".
Its a no brainer the 70 has less parts which equals less friction and than equals smoother trigger just basic physics says that simple answer. Now if you are afraid your going to drop your gun and it's gonna shoot a hole in something then get an 80 if you want a smoother trigger get a 70. If you think 3 parts and an extra spring won't make a change in the feel of your trigger you're not a internet gun expert but internet butthole. 😆
How many people DROP a 1911 pistol on its muzzle?? Seriously? I have owned these pistols for 40 years and NEVER dropped ONE, on its muzzle, slide, buttstock, anywhere, and have never had an "accidental discharge".
Ok so tell me what would happen if the sear or sear pin were to break while your series 70 has one in the chamber and the hammer cocked? Answer is your putting a hole in something. Im not picking on the series 70...I have a few of them actually and only 1 series 80...I just wouldnt feel comfortable having one loaded and pointed at my leg or anything else for that matter.
@@broot1375 Ok I’m not saying anything bad about series 80, but if the trigger mechanism were to somehow break to hit the firing pin hard enough, then the mechanisms are horribly made and/or they’re made of super cheap steel.
Straw hats are fine with suspenders, so long as it's between Easter Sunday & Sept. 15th (longer in warmer climates). As heated as the Series 70 vs. Series 80 debate gets, I don't think there was ever a riot over it. Straw hats out of season; however...
Actually you need to wear a good quality Cowboy hat and boots so you can get your Longmire on. Don't forget the Wrangler Jean's, and pearl snap shirts.
I too trust the Series 80 set up but not so much the Swartz version that actuates from the grip safety. I have personally experienced failures to fire as a result of the grip releasing the trigger but the drop safe plunger was not fully depressed. Thus click but no bang. The platforms were a first generation S&W 1911 and a Kimber Ultra CDP II. Anybody else experienced this?
More parts= more possible failure points. Simple math...but it is a pretty low probability and the added security of the plunger safety is well worth it in a carry gun.
Springfield mil spec 1911 has a lighter firing pin and stronger spring, with no firing pin block. It is very drop safe reliable; As prrof of this claim - even the State of California DOJ approves! So it is possible to have safety and improved trigger pull. Same goes for older CZ75 pre B models and Shadow P-01 models.Sometimes simpler and fewer parts is better.
The series 70s pass all of the DOJ drop testing here in California. I know that because my LB 1911 is a series 70 and I'm in California. Good enough for me and i don't really care for the additional complication of the series 80. To each his own.
Braidy Fisher they pass because the firing pin is not steel, the replaced it with a titanium one to help them pass the drop testing, same way Springfield armory did for the same reason.
fluffykittynoodles sounds like I got got? What the ever loving fuck are you even talking about? If you look at the QUALITY 1911 makers, they almost always change firing pins in 1911s to titanium to assist in the drop tests. I’m not surprised the RIA guns don’t have them though, they aren’t a quality manufacturer! ;-)
I actually did have a problem with a series 80. I’ll admit, it was a cleaning issue. What happened was that the plunger got stuck, probably due to carbon residue. Because the plunger was stuck, I couldn’t pull the trigger. After I got it cleaned up, it worked fine again.
80 Series awesome, with extra safety is better than nothing for EDC. The 70 series is okay when you are doing gun competitions or hunting with old timers.
melostmo Exactly! Why is it gonna be left in the car? Because a full steel 1911 loaded with 230gr hardball is too heavy for their 70 and 80 year old asses to carry all day.
There was a time you disliked mechanical safeties because they were a simple mechanical device that could possibly fail causing the gun to become inoperable, so much so you would convert your guns to decocker only. Does this mean you are okay with safeties now? Or just firing pin blocks? What about magazine disconnects?
The series 80 is activated by the trigger, and timed so that the firing pin block clears before the hammer sear breaks. Not so with the Kimber "Swarz" style FP block. It uses the grip safety to defeat the FP block, and it's set so "tight" from the factory that unless you have a death grip on the grip safety, you will get misfires - hammer drops but firing pin still blocked or partially blocked causing light strikes. You can tell by the block sear chewing up the firing pin. You can adjust the grip safety to be a little more forgiving on the trigger, but the only way to defeat the FP block is to turn down the FP to clear the block sear with less movement of the grip safety. This design made the gun so "safe" that it's 100% UNRELIABLE without proper "fitting". Will NEVER buy another Kimber 1911 with this BS FP block.
Or a grip safety, ambisafety, front slide serrations, overtravel adjustment, extended beaver tail, a rail, full length guiderod, lowered and flared ejection port, and more thing which have made this pistol more durable and reliable. One of the biggest being the external extractor.
Don't modify your factory 1911 with those grips or anything. You'll be seen as a trigger happy killer by the D.A. and he'll point that out in court! Get ready for prison time! Leave your carry gun factory!!! You can modify the crap out of a range gun!
Good information video..... all glocks in 9mm, 1911s in 45, ARs in 5.56.... we are never satisfied with shit that works.....aftermarket business is huge... for suckers
Have 3 1911 all Colts and my brother has a series 80! There is a difference in the trigger pull and feel! Maybe you should had use the same manufacturer guns! My 70’s are a Gold Cup a commander and a reworked bullseye gun. There is a difference in the trigger pull from the commander and the series 80, both guns are original with no work ,on them. The 80 is stiffer grinding pull have taken my trigger from my rework bullseye gun and it still had that grinding feel and have shot other series 80’s and all feel the same grinding feel!
70 vs 80 series .. wow 40 years to late on this one ..40 FUCK YEARS TO LATE .. holy Christ 40 fucking years ... and your babbling about this shit .. really ..
Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't a drop safety seem...redundant on a 1911? I mean you have a frame safety and a palm safety, doesn't that make the gun drop safe in of itself? Or is it like a rub for a delicious steak, in that the rub is not "rubbed" into the meat and the drop safety has a logic beyond being there in case the gun is "dropped"?
I've had the plunger jam in a colt pocketlite from previous owners wd40 and it having some burrs. It really sucked and even though it's fixed and seems to work I almost completely removed the offending pieces and will if it ever crops up again
Hey sorry I'm late to the discussion... Yankee, are you still carrying a 1911 today? (Feb 2023) I reached the age required to carry a 1911 in 1978. I've own several 1911's and still have 4. Every one of them were/are series 70.
It’s not that a series 80 adds length of pull, it makes the trigger heavier & doing a trigger job is much harder and will never come close to a series 70 with a trigger job. I have a Springfield with a polished trigger job that pulls at 3.5lbs, my buddy’s series 80 colt with the same trigger job pulls at 4.8lbs. Big difference. Also I have personally seen 2 1911’s with “drop safety’s” fail. One was a kimber with a Swartz safety, the pin that moves upward out of the frame to disengage the plunger was completely cut in half simply from putting the gun back together, the second was a series 80 with a carbon build up in the plunger channel. Neith gun would fire. Also, company’s like Springfield and Ruger use series 70 firing systems with an extra power spring and lightweight titanium firing pin, and have never failed a drop test. The 1911 was never designed for a firing pin safety, it never needed it, the grip safety is the original “drop safety”
But the Series 80 trigger sucks. I retrofit Series 80 guns to 70 and there is an immediate improvement in the trigger. And I've seen the drop safety fail.
Your Smith and Wesson can't be a series 70. I know mine aren't. They simply lack a firing pin block. That's like calling it "unsweet" tea. It implies that the tea was sweet, but somebody "un-ed" it, rendering it no longer sweet. There's no difference in the firing system system 1911s before 1970 when Colt introduced the Series 70. That's not what made the Series 70 a Series 70 anyway. You wouldn't say that Grandpa carried a Series 70 in Dubya-Dubya-Two. Only Colts are Series 70. Says so right on the side.
Have been shooting a 1911 for over 30 years and didn't know the difference (or reason) between a 70 or 80. Have always shot or owned 70's ( no plunger) Thanks Yankee Marshall for that explanation.
There is a HUGE difference on the trigger experience between a series 70 and 80. I am sorry that you are not able to perceive such difference. The same is applicable for revolvers with transfer bars vs. firing pin on hammer.
I’ve had and have many of both. I have shot them a lot. I discern no difference in trigger pull between the two. If you ask me, it’s a philosophical point which people think they look smart when they argue for the 70 and against the 80.
Those are technically braces not suspenders, but more importantly, the safety pins are what give you serious “old man” cred; much more than carrying a 1911.
I bought a used Remington 1911 R1 at a gun show, took it to the range, and it wouldn't fire. I later discovered the Firing Pin Plunger Lever was broken, and the tip that raised the firing pin plunger was broken off. So those parts DO fail. If someone isn't careful to make sure the Firing Pin Plunger Lever is in the down position when simply putting the slide back on the tip of the Firing Pin Plunger Lever can be easily sheared off.
I’ve had a 1911 R1 since 2011 and never had that issue with the plunger and put thousands of rounds through it by this point. Sounds like the previous owner forced the slide and damaged the plunger, and sold it off when they couldn’t figure out why it wouldn’t fire. The plunger on mine always stays down, you’d have to physically pull it up and assemble the gun upside down for that to happen.
FWIW Kimber uses the grip safety to disengage the firing pin lock so it has no effect on the trigger. You can achieve a "drop safe" gun without a firing pin lock by doing one, or both, of two things 1. Install a titanium firing pin 2. Install an extra strength firing pin spring. Many of the imported "series 70" guns use an extra strength firing pin spring. They manage to pass the drop safety test required for imported guns with it. I prefer a titanium firing pin to "drop safe" a series 70 gun. The extra strength springs are a total pain in the @$$ to replace when removing the firing pin and extractor for cleaning.
Not really unreliable...yes they both work fine...this is really not the Point,you would know this if you knew what you are talking about. Its the mechanism of squeezing the trigger. The 70 series has a smoother movement even though many will not feel or understand the difference. Because You believe that there is No difference...doesn't mean that you are correct....You admitted that you never carried 1911 before... So how would you know in so very short time to feel or understand the difference???....Hey...go back to what ever you really know. If Not...Then hey,people have the right in this country to prove their ignorance ever how they want...your not alone and it's not against the law . Hey I came back to add here,I know the history of why the block was installed.In short...it was a solution to a nonexistent problem,which was never needed. If you like(I doubt it),I will return here and explain it all to you why and how this stupidity Was invented by people that thought that they were smarter than MR. Browning. It was mostly about the drop safety which it already had one and the four extra parts were never needed in the real 1911 models. Again,I will Explain it all for you......?
TYM, your are always entertaining, however your dead wrong on the reliability issue. I purchased a Remington 1911 when they first came on the market as an impulse buy. Within the week I took it to the range to run 2 to 300 rounds through it, second mag had a failure to fire. stripped it at the range and found the "finger" that actuates the release plunger had sheared right off. Loaded gun, pull the trigger and no bang. How is this situation NOT a reliability issue? Sold the gun at the end of the week. Don't get started on the absolute trash trigger pull. Keep up the great videos. BTW I do know this is a 2 year old vid.
This was actually an excellent description of 70 vs 80. Especially the animation that looks like rabbit fucking during rapid fire. Because that's actually what's going on inside a handgun with a pin safety under fast fire. Rabbit fucking
Damn I hear things and swear off 80s never to think about it again I watch your video and say who gives a sh__ Thank you I love them all and I don't hafto get rid of all my 80s thinking I was screwed and they won't be as reliable as the 70s....thank you for sharing.
ever see a competition gun with a series 80 ? NOPE 1911s dont need extra parts,this is one reason why Colts suck and so many others,real 1911 collectors SHUN the 80...I do too !
Wait....if stray hats don't go with suspenders, lotsa Missouri farmers are dressing way out of style. As for the firing pin safety...they'd have been more appropriate during WW2 than they are now. During WW2, we had gremlins sabotaging everything. Now all we have is lawyers doing that.
Pre 70 or 70 for me.I have a 61 yr old colt N.M not a gold cup.Still a great shooter,taken many wild hogs with this pistol.Im not impressed with any colt after the 70s.
It was a requirement for the M9 Pistol Program, but they dropped it for the M17 Program. But they don't always follow their own rules. The Sig P226 didn't have a manual safety which was a requirement of the M9 Program. And in the M17 Program they let third stage bidding short circuit the durability testing that was supposed to be performed in the 2nd stage.
liability is the base word of re-liability. So, if reliability means it is reliable, anything else must mean it is unreliable. And as far as drop safety.... If the bad guy is going to get the drop on me, does the drop safety mean he doesn't get the drop, I'm confused. And one last thought, I'm not 70 yet, so I can't carry a series 70, let alone a series 80; what happened to the series 50 or 60 for us youngsters? :)
Anything other than series 70 is trash. Series 80 is unnecessary complexity to correct a problem that didn't exist. They added more mechanisms to make the trigger to function more like a modern polymer striker fired, with a firing pin block. A series 70 doesn't need this for 2 reasons. 0 - A firing pin on the series 70 can't reach a firing pin even when its fully inserted. If you push it down with your finger you can see the only thing that can cause the pin to reach the primer is a heavy strike that will propel the tip of the pin into primer until the spring it rests against forces it back into the hole because the pin because the firing pin design can't physically engage the primer without significant momentum. 1 - Because the firing pin isn't long enough to reach the primer and is under constant spring resistance, dropping this weapon provides constant, simple drop safety in the original design. The firing pin isn't long enough to reach the primer in this weapon and its under constant spring tension that pushes this pin away from a primer at all times. Make sense? If you own a series 70 you can test this yourself. Best solution is to buy a 1911 from a manufacturer that only produces the series 70. The series 70 was Already Drop Safe!
You missed a possible point of failure, rust and or failure to clean the gun could result in gunked up channels that the spring or plunger couldn't readily travel through. Although if we're talking in a literal sense, with the two reasons you gave and the one I did. It does make it possible for this gun to fail in ways that a series 70 cannot. Making it (in some conditions) less reliable. Thanks for your consideration.
This is like people bashing Kimber for the "plastic" main spring housing. We have 1 non-metal part that works just fine and by the time people are done crying we have a manufacturer that charges top dollar for a gun with plastic parts. The argument is pointless.
I have carpal tunnel in both hands so 1911s are not safe for me as I get unintended dis charges with a 7 lb 1912 trigger pull with some take up so I use a Smith 4506.
If the guy was like me, and dyslexic, I could understand. But most people I know that share this trait, re-read what they are looking at. Made a fool of myself last night basically doing the same thing, and I had to make a few calls to apologize for not re-reading an article.
Frankly, drop safety, no drop safety, don't care. It's just that the slide markings on the 80Series are not as nice, and after the first year or two they stopped breaking the lettering on the slide, so they just overall don't look as nice.
Another primary carry gun? Really, there are those that claim the 1911 is outdated. Hell, I still carry a commander however like most, I use what fits the occasion, weather, or geography and all are old school and reliable.
This is a first I disagree on the less expensive 1911 (Tisas) or as you say tit mouse if the mfg just puts in stamped shitty sheet metal series 80 parts and does not de burr hone or polish those parts the trigger is BRUTAL compared with a series 70 if however they do put in a LITTLE elbow grease and smooth the parts then indeed the difference is minor
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The series 80 just pisses me off that a bunch of libtards keep screwing up everything that makes the USA great. It was perfect, hey lets fuck it up.
Why aren't you carrying a 10mm 1911. You have said that you like the 10mm a lot for a self defense round. Just wondering not tryin to call you out or anything
BTW the grip screws in the punisher grips are not properly aligned. WTF is wrong with you? Please get some torx grip screws for that thing or never allow it to be seen again. At the very least get some o-rings under them where they can be aligned. :)
I’ve noticed that the people with the most adamant opinions are the people who haven’t any experience in the subject. I’ve owned both with several thousand rounds shot through both and I’ve found that once the guns have been properly cleaned (most people never do this even though they know they should) and several hundred rounds shot through them, (most people don’t do this either for whatever reason) I have no favorite.
Many modern people treat anything that can be stratified into 2 groups as a team sport. They then pick a side and treat the victory of a product like it means they’ve won somehow. Pray God grants them additional wisdom.
The people who shoot Series 80 aren’t going to break those parts by firing the gun or taking them out and breaking them with their gorilla fingers. They’re made of steel people.
S80 has two "extra" parts in the frame and two "extra" parts in the slide. "I count the firing pin block spring as a part" Not really complicated at all. But there's reasons why 1911 race guns are usually S70, less parts to tune and less moving contact surfaces in the trigger assembly making for a "smoother" feel.
Yeah you can go your whole life time, transitioning, traveling, transporting, caring, moving, stowing, using, training, practicing, caring, picking up, handing, your weapon and be a hundred percent certain they will never accidentally fall from your or anyone else's perfect sticky suregrip grasp.
Or get clocked-bushwhacked by some %*+= bag felons 😡 who lunge at you to snatch your pistol. Some crooks work in packs or will "size up" a target for a "easy lick" 😧 This why a $3000.00 safe queen/race gun is not a ideal deep CCW or defense sidearm.
