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Seriously DON'T buy the Airpods Max 

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This is my full review of the airpods Max with comparisons.
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@chefsteve8381
@chefsteve8381 3 года назад
sounds like you need a wireless headphone tier list
@martinshoosterman
@martinshoosterman 3 года назад
Yes, we need this.
@sephondranzer
@sephondranzer 3 года назад
Agreed!
@cinemapigeon4898
@cinemapigeon4898 3 года назад
Shure Aonic 50 and MW65 should be on the list.
@Armbrust210
@Armbrust210 3 года назад
Would really be interesting
@calebkim2275
@calebkim2275 3 года назад
Yes plzz
@ulqi
@ulqi 3 года назад
Conclusion : You just sold me the K361.
@Drinkyoghurt
@Drinkyoghurt 3 года назад
I tried it but it doesn't even come close to the DT770 or DT990 in terms of sound. K245 are also nice portable headphones compared to the K361 but they're open back. Similar price, but metal build instead of plastic.
@Wishwader
@Wishwader 3 года назад
Why can't all the audiophiles of planet Earth just get together and decide definitively which headphones are the best. Talk about a confusing topic!
@ulqi
@ulqi 3 года назад
@@Drinkyoghurt I think I'll just get a bluetooth adapter for one of my IEMs lol
@user-dc3pd7us6e
@user-dc3pd7us6e 3 года назад
@@Wishwader bc sound is subjective and depending on what you like, you might want different sound signatures.
@oxaile4021
@oxaile4021 3 года назад
@@Wishwader I think most audiophiles will agree it's the HE-1
@abc123s100
@abc123s100 3 года назад
Hot damn, this was way more thorough than any of the other 'tech reviewers' out there. Of course, this is an audiophile channel, so makes sense, but the amount of different headphones: wired, wireless, and ANC used to compare with the Airpod Max really gave a good reference point on how they compare in the market. Solid video 👌
@Austintatious_One
@Austintatious_One 3 года назад
Most reviews for the these bad actually.. And having tried them.. I can confirm that this reviewer is either being paid or just comes his pants for apple 🍏 😂 👉.. The sound on them is terrible! They are not even the best compared to ANC headphones as he claims! The Xm4s shit on them from a hight and the Drop Pandas 🐼 decimate! Them if you don't care for ANC (though they do an excellent! Job passively).. Lesson to be learned, don't trust reviewers that review from there bedroom's.. Apple shill 👉
@shzammpatapon9865
@shzammpatapon9865 3 года назад
@@Austintatious_One wow, you really hate apple product huh? what a sad life, you must be missing out
@Austintatious_One
@Austintatious_One 3 года назад
@@shzammpatapon9865 Well i am a technician.. So i am qualified to say that i know better.. Pay double for less if you want 😉 👉
@shzammpatapon9865
@shzammpatapon9865 3 года назад
@@Austintatious_One no you're not even a technician. people here do not even trust you have hear both of them. the industry already agreed that airpods max has the best anc.
@abc123s100
@abc123s100 3 года назад
@@Austintatious_One I mean, it's not like this video sold me on any headphones. I daily a THX 789 with HD6XX and 1990s, it's not like I'm expecting to be blown away by the sound of the Airpod Max. I'm just appreciating the amount of effort that went into this video from DMS, including way more comparisons, even with more consumer products. I've personally never heard the Max's nor the XM4's, and from their reviews, I probably never will. For a self-proclaimed technician, you really seem to disregard the technological advantage that Apple put into these headphones, namely their high quality DSP. In a similar vein, the Pandas put R&D into the amplifier and similarly priced wired have more effort put into the drivers and housing. I agree that it likely doesn't compare well to similarly price wired, or a more audio focused bluetooth like the Pandas, but that's not the target audience for these. Like, I don't think they're worth the asking price, but it's Apple, so they priced it that way because they know their target audience. They're a business, so they just have their priorities, even though they do a bunch of bullshit on the side. But ultimately, sound is subjective. Even though Beats' build and sound to the audiophile community are considered absolutely trash, some people genuinely enjoy them and that's fine. If someone enjoys a product, that's fine. Just take their word with the understanding of what their preferred sound signature is and interpret it to what you see fit. If someone takes the words of a single reviewer, then honestly, that's on them. There's just no way for a single reviewer to cover every single idiosyncrasy of a product in a review period. And there's also just some characteristics some reviewers notice better than others, so it's just a matter of find which ones align with what you're looking for. I couldn't give a shit if you did reviews in a bathroom sink, as long as it's a fair review. Also, you seemed more biased than any reviewer I've seen coming from that tone. Not really sure who you're expecting to win over with a comment like that. Grammar is also a dumpster fire and you used way too many emotes, my guy.
@kc-rl2yz
@kc-rl2yz 3 года назад
Tech channels usually give out bad advice. This is one of the only channels I trust for honest and thoughtful reviews. Now I gotta find those k361’s
@adams5389
@adams5389 3 года назад
It’s almost like kissing ass is how they think apple will send them free shit to review
@jaysanchez4407
@jaysanchez4407 3 года назад
@@adams5389 a majority of the reviews have said it's not really worth it 💀 especially when compared to others so idk how that is kissing ass
@thecompanioncube4211
@thecompanioncube4211 3 года назад
Tech reviewers are VERY bad source of review for audio products. A huge bump in ATH M50x sales was because Mkbhd hyped them up so much, but M50x's are so basic and there are so many better options for audio than M50x. Even AT's own M40x which are cheaper sound better than M50x. But hey, tech reviewer preached so it must be good amirite?
@clickbaitpro
@clickbaitpro 3 года назад
@@thecompanioncube4211 Agree with you, he almost sold me M50x but I did research it further and finally bought DT990 because of its soundstage and sound seperation, they're sharp but I turned those spikes down with equalizer apo. With sonarworks reference 4 trial, they really sounded awesome.
@attentioncestpaslegal7847
@attentioncestpaslegal7847 2 года назад
What are you talking about. This guy treats the main feature (noise cancellation) as just a gadget when reviewing the product. The AirPods Max are not for audiophiles, they are noise cancelling headphones. So it's ridiculous to compare it to non noise cancelling headphones.
@jblev736
@jblev736 3 года назад
Thank you for comparing the comfort and ear cup size to the QC 35 II. For my head that is the most comfortable headphones I have worn and I always like that comparison for that reason. I can wear them for hours and hours and feel completely fine. I am still hoping bose "gets the message" and release a QC 35 III since so many people seem to find the QC series fit more comfortable than the 700
@kozmo7
@kozmo7 3 года назад
What usually hurts for you when wearing headphones? My dumb ears stick out so I’m constantly having pain after awhile using most over ears. Haven’t tried the QC35 II’s tho. Curious if you are similar to me and what other headphones you’ve tested.
@slurpalurple
@slurpalurple 2 года назад
Having owned the majority of the headphones mentioned in this video, the QC35’s are the most comfortable headphone I have ever owned, bar-none. I agree that the NC700 has a shallow ear cup problem, and that alone is the only reason the new QC45 exists.
@Marc-iv8pk
@Marc-iv8pk 3 года назад
This man is totally right. I spend hours like a mad man playing my AirPods max and my K361 back to back listening to some of my favorite tracks. The AirPods max have a fuller, deeper, more immersive sound, but the music details in the K361 just beat the maxes and make them sound meh. Maxes feel like a bass boost headphone vs a well rounded sound with the K361. Everyone has a different ear, but this video is super spot on. Hard to explain, you just need to hear it for yourself. But by all means I love the maxes for different reasons.
@ericfallabel9201
@ericfallabel9201 3 года назад
This is the first actual meaningful review of these things!
@Gokhanaj
@Gokhanaj 3 года назад
Confirmation bias. This is the first and only AirPods Max review that is negative. Probably you’re a Apple hating troll, so you think everything else is meaningless, only the one that confirms your bias is actually meaningful. The reality is, DMS is pandering. Even though he says these are the BEST ANC headphones in terms of noise canceling and sound, which are the most important things, he paints the review in a negative tone, so that he can pander to haters. Dishonest and disappointing...
@ericfallabel9201
@ericfallabel9201 3 года назад
@@Gokhanaj Your level of emotion is hilarious. This is the first review that doesn't just say "they sound great! Better than XM4s", which isn't terribly useful
@geoffreymcdonald173
@geoffreymcdonald173 3 года назад
@@Gokhanaj it's the only review by somebody deeply embedded in the high end audio world. A review by somebody who cares more about the music and the experience than the fact that Apple made it.
@TuTran-kr2yk
@TuTran-kr2yk 3 года назад
@@Gokhanaj so DMS is `Dishonest` because he tells the truth and in detail :o
@theumbrellaman2954
@theumbrellaman2954 3 года назад
@@Gokhanaj DMS explained how the driver sounded in massive detail, and compared it to a variety of different headphones. He gave a thorough dive into these headphones in a manner in which I haven't seen another reviewer do before. Many other reviewers simply compared them to the XM4's and called it a day which is not at all helpful. All that matters is the build, the feature set, and a deep explanation of the sound. Which is something DMS clearly did in this review.
@jacksonredstone9530
@jacksonredstone9530 3 года назад
I AM SO GLAD that you made a few comparisons to wired headphones. I haven't seen any other reviewers do that. A+ analysis on the treble/bass descriptions and comparisons to wired headphones, which are just as valid of an option for a consumer looking to upgrade cheap earbuds.
@aebi96
@aebi96 3 года назад
How would you rank the K361-BT, the K371-BT and the Panda's? which would you say is the best in terms of sound quality? and which would you say are the best bluetooth headphones? (only sound quality regardless of comfort build etc.) Great Video btw.
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 3 года назад
K361-BT is the best tonally, K371-BT is that but for people who want more bass. Panda wins on detail but is more focused on mid-frequencies. Depends on tuning preferences. Thanks!
@denislemieux7294
@denislemieux7294 2 года назад
Grado GW100 please… love open back and they’re probably a lot lighter. Please review
@fabiokelm
@fabiokelm 3 года назад
Gave the K361BT to a friend as a birthday gift, it is one of her favorites since them. I tested them and they are really comfortable and sound very nice. A solid recommendation!
@jeffliang1718
@jeffliang1718 3 года назад
comfortably wise, how's compare to Bose
@TheSilverSurfer205
@TheSilverSurfer205 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. Can all of the sound issues you expressed be fixed through software updates? Also, if/when Apple does push out a software update(s) please do a follow up(s).
@tommih597
@tommih597 3 года назад
In terms of spatial audio I don’t think they dialed it back enough or adjusted it from the AirPods Pro where it would make sense to add more “reverb” or space to the sound to give a bigger sense of space for small earbuds with a narrower sound stage.
@eskamobob8662
@eskamobob8662 3 года назад
Is the K361BT better than the panda? I didn't see the panda mentioned in the video so I got currious. Maybe I just missed it but I never sawa review of the 361 for you
@oakshadow6924
@oakshadow6924 3 года назад
Awesome review !!! Even though I'm part of the general consumers' group I find this type of reviews the real deal! I found the comparisons with other ANC and BT headphones to be especially valuable; both from a price pov and from a sound quality pov.
@bagadoink
@bagadoink 3 года назад
Great video, very detailed. So out of all the wireless headphones (non-NC) you've had experience with, what would you say is the best value overall, with the emphasis on sound?
@KojiCO-ConvinceM
@KojiCO-ConvinceM 3 года назад
Kph30i and a es100 I know this wasn’t the exact answer you were looking for, but trust me 😄
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 3 года назад
if we're talking wireless and non-anc. K361-BT is the best value. K371-BT if you like more bass.
@_Digitalguy
@_Digitalguy 3 года назад
Thanks a lot for such a detailed review!! You said the 6XX sound clearly better than these. How about the cheaper 58X (and which don't need an amp)? Are they still better?
@mastroitek
@mastroitek 3 года назад
In the last 4 days I used to check 10 times a day your uploads waiting for this video!!! Amazing work like always. Could you do a video or write a comment about how do those compare to the Panda? You mentioned them in the video but I was just hoping for a more detailed/specific comparison about audio quality between the two. Thumbs up if you guys want this comparison too!!
@HiFiInsider
@HiFiInsider 3 года назад
on the pads, if it's installed upside down, the L and R would be upside down as well so it's easy to identify and resolve.
@SBruv
@SBruv 3 года назад
Hi. Great review, and good to hear something a obviously MUCH better informed than the standard tech site reviews at last. However, I'm a little confused by your 'they're only better than other ANC headphones' conclusion. Do they not sound different when ANC is off? If so, are they better? And how about wired with ANC off? Better again, or not? I just find it hard to believe Apple have inevitably 'broken' the sound of their cans in order to accommodate ANC (as all manufacturers presumably have to), then left it broken when ANC is turned off. With ANC off, they're effectively not ANC headphones any more, right, but wireless headphones without ANC, which you say the AMP's can't compete with? Or am I misunderstanding? Also, down in this thread, you state the the DAC always converts to 320 MP4. Does that included the wired connection? Ie, if I connect them wired and play a 24-bit WAV through them, that WAV will be compressed? If so, that would indeed be a pretty big fail, given Apple's prominence in the pro audio arena, and the potential for Logic users to look at these for music production (rightly or wrongly!). Very interested in your thoughts.
@aka890908089
@aka890908089 3 года назад
Just curious, have you ever tried the beoplay H6 and if yes, what were your thoughts on it? It's an old Bang and Olufsen wired headphone that they do not sell anymore, just wanted to see if you've ever played around with it. Thanks!
@EraYaN
@EraYaN 3 года назад
I'd like to see a 6 month follow up with a couple of firmware and iOS updates essentially.
@dyrik
@dyrik 3 года назад
No one: DMS: actually knows what he’s talking about Me: *starts researching the k361 again*
@ccozzarelli
@ccozzarelli 3 года назад
Hello !! I saw the Beyerdynamic Lagoon on your list. How does those sound ? What do you think of the ANC? Much better or worst than QC35? I have the DT770 and love the sound. Thanks !
@TKDdans
@TKDdans 3 года назад
Thanks for the in depth descriptions of the sound quality and the rest. I also did feel a pressure on my temples and the weight felt questionably comfortable for a couple hours. But then I listened to them for hours at a time over a couple nights. I don’t know if the headphones loosened up, or if I simply psychologically got used to them, but now I genuinely don’t perceive that temple pressure anymore. The pressure seems much more even and comfortable after using them enough. I remember my 650’s felt unwanted clamping pressure until I worked the headrest a bit too. I even gave the APM to my wife to try and she didn’t notice any discomfort. Maybe it gets more comfortable, or it’s more comfortable for some heads? I also don’t like the accessibility compression on most or many tracks. I did find it interesting to hear softer noises on classical recordings though. Even if there was lost qualities in ways, I found the slight setting very enjoyable with how I could gain the ability to hear sounds I couldn’t before, or to hear the performance in a brighter way. Thank you for the in depth review! I actually have a Panda on the way so I can compare :)
@warpathh
@warpathh 3 года назад
I don’t understand why people need ANC headphones. When I use IEMs I can’t hear anything around me while music is playing, even at a low volume. I recently tested an audio book while on a plane and I couldn’t hear anything behind the speaker’s voice.
@Kwaqkism
@Kwaqkism 3 года назад
While IEMs are great for blocking out noise, they're just not comfortable for some people, especially for long hours. I know I'd much rather have over-ears if I'll be wearing them for a long stretch of time
@Cal94
@Cal94 3 года назад
see if i'm on a plane, it's usually flying from Toronto to Singapore. that's maybe 21 hrs aloft depending on (and not counting) layovers. I sleep best with silence, and I've never had a pair of IEMs with passive isolation that rivals ANC. while Sony WF-1000XM3s worked decent, let me get comfier in an economy class seat, and actually sound nicer than WH-1000XM3s (imho), They're harder to get a good seal with vs literally any other IEM or over-ear and the only time i can wear WFs for hours on end, is if I'm also on a bike, in which case, i have music to distract me and things that hurt more than my ears. SE-215s and ZS10 pros i can wear for longer without discomfort, but again, they don't isolate like WH-1000xm3s or any other quality ANC over-ear.
@petertaylor9371
@petertaylor9371 3 года назад
I have the CCA C10 IEMs and the QC35’s. While the C10 is a fantastic budget IEM, the Bose are infinitely more comfortable. They’re also wireless and pair to two of my devices and I can use them for calls. So, yea. That’s my 2 cents.
@BunnyslippersEUC
@BunnyslippersEUC 3 года назад
I want you to review the Bang & Olufsen Beoplay h95: with a B&O tuning and with a B&O price. And I want you to review the Ergo 2 helmetphones.
@pernybergsund885
@pernybergsund885 3 года назад
What are the best sounding headphones if you don't have an amp?
@JHL1994
@JHL1994 3 года назад
Are the QC35 II still your go to anc headphones? For me, the 4.8.2 update did wonders. Better anc(wind/fan noise) and the added option to regulate self voice.
@bgamervideo2714
@bgamervideo2714 3 года назад
Soo if i want crappy noise canceling headphones i should buy the boose qc and if i want good sound i should buy real headphones, damn who would have thought
@Anderson-yn4or
@Anderson-yn4or 3 года назад
The Bose are real comfortable and the bass isn’t inflated like the XM4s and I’d say it’s rather decent
@hal9xxx321
@hal9xxx321 3 года назад
Or you could just get a damn iem... forreal though with the right tips they'll isolate the world better than any active noise cancelling headphones hands down.
@leoalex2001
@leoalex2001 3 года назад
or the Anker life Q30.. nc is okay but sound is actually very decent. Look up the video by olufs gadget.. not sure how it compares to others than the mx4 tho
@EraYaN
@EraYaN 3 года назад
@@hal9xxx321 But then you have a pair of IEMs which not everyone wants or can tolerate for long periods.
@justanindianwhosprpud
@justanindianwhosprpud 3 года назад
QC35 are very comfortable non offensive sounding headphones you can wear all day. PXC 550 II are comfortable with a much more refined sound quality. But the ANC is not that great, however block the usual low rumbles of airplane engines. XM4 is the most obnoxious sounding thing ever made with fantastic ANC ( but even your podcasts will sound different)
@Konsul135
@Konsul135 3 года назад
The flaws of wireless active noise cancelling headphones made me buy a pari of Custom InEars and I have not looked back since. The isolation from noise is amazing, thanks to them being custom made, I can wear them for hours without any pressure building up anywhere and since they are InEars I do not have any trouble with carrying them around :D
@cjhards
@cjhards Год назад
Short batt life, my only gripe with this.
@simon762
@simon762 3 года назад
Totally off topic question: Does Dolby Access do a better job in enhancing audio quality or is it just an added compressor with fancy options as well?
@uptown3636
@uptown3636 3 года назад
Thank you for doing a bit of detective work to figure out why they dampened the lower treble. I am extremely sensitive to sibilant headphones. Would you say that the AirPods max are free of painfully sibilant sounds when used without changing the settings?
@Brynbo
@Brynbo 3 года назад
How much better (if at all) are the Pandas and is the price difference worth it over the K361?
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 3 года назад
Panda has more detail and a way better amp/dac internally but K361-BT is better tuned tonally. I prefer the K361-BT in most cases personally, but the panda always surprises me.
@Brynbo
@Brynbo 3 года назад
Thank you for the time and effort you put into replying to comments :) (Not to mention the videos themselves which are consistently thorough and enjoyable as it is).
@MacTX
@MacTX 3 года назад
the lesson with Apple, ALWAYS wait for the 2nd generation. one of those things that gets reinforced with every new product they come up with.
@jessicahyde8461
@jessicahyde8461 3 года назад
the lesson we learn from this video, don't buy any apple product. It's shit.
@69bruh
@69bruh Год назад
@@jessicahyde8461 tell me which apple products youve ever owned
@Legato-2057
@Legato-2057 3 года назад
How do the k361-BT compare to the Drop Panda (besides price?)
@prabinpaudel5572
@prabinpaudel5572 3 года назад
DMS I have a question, I have 2 streaming apps tidal and deezer. The same music track on deezer doesn't hurt my ear but tidal does at same level of percieved loudness and thus I feel like I am getting more detail out of my deezer tracks. Is this what we call dynamic range ?
@kchuen
@kchuen 3 года назад
So these sound better than the H95? I listened to them both and found the H95 to be better, but I’m a noob. How do they compare for your ears?
@Cal94
@Cal94 3 года назад
Trust your ears mate. Reviews are great and all, and these guys have better DACs and amps than most of us are ever gonna spend, for testing wired stuff, but sound at the end of the day is still subjective. Your ideal sound signature may not match any one reviewer's, your own hands-on experience is no less valid than anyone else's, and the privilege to have tried both, is a rare one. Or at least, it is to this Ontarian who's been locked down since november
@soccertkd06
@soccertkd06 2 года назад
I have both and prefer the H95’s sound signature. The Max have too much of a U sound and the sub bass on the h95 is better. You can also customize the H95’s sound more than the Max.
@osamaahad618
@osamaahad618 3 года назад
You gained a sub by the quality of your video and meaning. Great work bro
@akotlar
@akotlar 3 года назад
Which do you find yourself reaching for when you go on a trip or want ANC. Momentum 3, Max, or QC35 II?
@MP-gk4ky
@MP-gk4ky 3 года назад
How would you rate the AirPods Max with the b&w px7’s as far as sound quality goes.
@gordonfreeman4491
@gordonfreeman4491 3 года назад
Thanks. You are one of the few reviewers who also has a technical knowledge that I trust and can relate to (read: understand). Keep up the good work. Btw... you should rename the video to: AKG 361 BT recomendation ;)
@buckbuckgoose92
@buckbuckgoose92 3 года назад
“Audiophiles” are trolls. Try the headphones for yourself
@gordonfreeman4491
@gordonfreeman4491 3 года назад
@@buckbuckgoose92 Well are you an audiophile? Bc you certainly are a troll ;)
@clickbaitpro
@clickbaitpro 3 года назад
@@buckbuckgoose92 "trolls"?? Sounds like you
@buckbuckgoose92
@buckbuckgoose92 3 года назад
@@clickbaitpro I definitely am 🤷🏻‍♂️
@buckbuckgoose92
@buckbuckgoose92 3 года назад
No but really you should probably try the headphones yourself instead of listening to others. With an open mind also. Something that is apparently hard for people. Making a headphone sound good and have great noise canceling is difficult. Of course they will sound better without implementing anc
@Dr3wA
@Dr3wA 3 года назад
Thank you DMS! The review we all needed. Not that i was ever considering buying this product, but i was curious if this product was overhyped
@sufferingidiots5113
@sufferingidiots5113 2 года назад
Have you tried the NAD VISO HP70? This was my go-to ANC headphone, until last week when they broke. Looking for a something to replace those and considering the airpods max. Curious as to how they compare to the HP70
@rjtastic
@rjtastic 3 года назад
so if we just talk about sound quality regardless of the nature of the headphone, do you think it sounds better than the hifiman HE400i 2020?
@acmeanimebhabie7623
@acmeanimebhabie7623 3 года назад
I really enjoyed listening to a more technical review of the airpods max. I enjoyed it so much that I decided to sub to you in hopes I get more content like that.
@estebanvalle715
@estebanvalle715 3 года назад
Me too!!
@entoine87
@entoine87 2 года назад
wow, I don't know if they were improvement made since your review who could explain how much I disagree with it, but I own hd650, ollo s4x, dt990 (very good dac and neve headphone preamp), airpods pro, and I got recently the airpods Max, and for me they blew all of them. The bass are very focused and "true", and overall the sound restitution and details is phenomenal. What I found is these airpods reveals how good some mixes are and how awfull some are. The spatial audio with apple tv is phenomenal, again it is dependant of how well produced and mixed is the sound at first, but when the production is good the sound with airpods is just mindblowing.. your review made me wait to buy them when I saw it months ago .. I am glad I finaly buyed them anyway.
@hansphandest
@hansphandest 3 года назад
Is the K361 BT, really that much better? Oluv's gadgets seemed really disappointed in them compared to the non BT version
@colbuhlemann3378
@colbuhlemann3378 3 года назад
Great review. As an extension, I'd be interested to hear your take on the Sennheiser PXC 550 and its standing in the ANC field.
@momogris6159
@momogris6159 3 года назад
By far, the best and the most honest video about the AirPods Max. Getting myself AirPods Pro.
@entoine87
@entoine87 2 года назад
well airpod max sounds way way better
@dominiksx
@dominiksx 3 года назад
Good video, as always. Would love to hear more about other wireless headphones you like (drop panda), compared to each other. Another tier list like someone suggested maybe in the future? Cheers :)
@netzbandit
@netzbandit 3 года назад
Can you tell something about hiss? Most BT headphones have a clearly audible hiss. The K-371BT and the Powerbeats Pro are the only ones I listened to, that were „quiet“.
@ryanchenoweth5673
@ryanchenoweth5673 3 года назад
Fantastic mate. Do they hiss like the XM4’s do? 🤔
@hummingbird71
@hummingbird71 3 года назад
Nice review! The Airpods Max sounds like a first gen product to me, but if they ever come up with a second gen or a cheaper "sports" version, maybe it'll gain more traction. Question tho, if you compare those headphones with EQ enabled and set to what you think their best setting should be, like toning down the bloated bass of the XM4, would your tier list change in any way?
@MrMuhda
@MrMuhda 3 года назад
It's a good thing that Apple entered the headphones market, so that hopefully Sony, Bose and other manufacturers step up their game. I do like the swappable ear cubs and height adjustment. Hopefully other brands will implement something similar. The head rest is a shame though. Conclusion: Hopefully other brands or manufacturers will implement or make their version of the great new futures that Airpods Max introduced and came with.
@edwardandeli
@edwardandeli 3 года назад
Now that Apple has introduced $549 headphones and has proven that many people will buy it at that price, most likely, Sony and Bose will feel comfortable raising their next headphones prices to that too. Or close to that.
@kcguitar9307
@kcguitar9307 3 года назад
@@edwardandeli ye people just stupidly copy apple for no damn reason
@edwardandeli
@edwardandeli 3 года назад
@@kcguitar9307 Haha, no, not for no reason. For business purposes, profit, capitalism--all that jazz. It's kind of funny, because usually more competition means cheaper prices for the consumer, except in this situation, it's the opposite. When Apple raised their flagship iPhone price to $1k, other companies copied. I think the same for the headphones game.
@kcguitar9307
@kcguitar9307 3 года назад
@@edwardandeli ya its for their profit ofcuz..what i dont like tho is that they will tease Apple for that
@difflam74
@difflam74 3 года назад
@@edwardandeli Didn’t Samsung set the 1K price first ? Apple then copied Samsung selling old tech for new price eh
@gabrielhites2705
@gabrielhites2705 3 года назад
I remember seeing you in that LTT video, also this review is so detailed. You are definitely getting my subscribe.
@johnwade7430
@johnwade7430 3 года назад
Interesting - thanks for all of the hard work that you put into all of this. So you could not use these as a quick monitor base between a DAW (say Logic) and your headphone - with cord attached the latency is still noticeable?
@johnwade7430
@johnwade7430 3 года назад
As an aside - for audio editing are their a good set of headphones that you would suggest?
@JanBabiuchHall
@JanBabiuchHall 2 года назад
It for me. 2.5 years ago, before they came out, I spent a month researching wireless ANC headphones. Ended up getting the B&W PX7s. They were very good. But despite the carbon-carbon composite headband and aluminum earcups, the build quality turned out to be crap. The wire connecting the two earcups shorted out from flexing when I put them on my head. The same thing happened to the replacement pair. So I purchased the Sony XM4s, Bose 700s, and APMs and A-B tested them for 2 weeks. The Maxs won hands down. Build quality is miles above, plus they're repairable. The sound is significantly better than the Sony (though those get better after you rein in the bass in the EQ and scan your ears so they can actually have some stereo imaging). Slightly better than the Bose too. And ANC performance (used to take public transport daily before rona so this is crucial) easily trumps Bose and trades blows with Sony. At my desk I still have wired headphones and studio monitors, but I find myself using the Maxs most of the time because they're convenient and they sound very good. Oh and I guess the bugs you mentioned got fixed because I haven't had any problems in the 4 months I've been using them daily.
@RayCabrera1
@RayCabrera1 3 года назад
Great breakdown of the max, I really appreciate your detail and the comparisons you made with many other headphones. Taking your advice I treated myself to the Sennheiser HD 6XX and simply love them and also own the Sony XM4's. The price for both of them is still under $550.
@panzer3279
@panzer3279 3 года назад
How the XM4 feel compared to the HD 6xx? I have the HD 6xx and was considering buying an ANC headphone.
@RayCabrera1
@RayCabrera1 3 года назад
@@panzer3279 it sounds good after you EQ it. It is very bassy out of the box, but the great feature of the XM4 is the it includes a pretty decent EQ system, so you can change the sound of your unit to your liking. It also works best on an an android phone which you are able to use the LDAC Codec which can stream Bluetooth signals up to 990 kbps. This let's you take advantage of being able to stream HIFI music from apps like Tidal or Amazon HD and get the best sound out of it. If using an IPhone your limited to AAC codec which is 256 kbp a much lower streaming bit rate. Though not as good Sony does compensate for this in there app but usind a function called AAC Extreme to better the sound quality. Though you will never get the sound quality of the HD 6xx, for a bluetooth device you get really good sound you can adjust to you liking. Most reviews don't give you all this information, they review out of box without making the adjustments to make it sound even better, that what Sony offers thats no one else does. As for ANC, pretty much the best
@RayCabrera1
@RayCabrera1 3 года назад
@@panzer3279 lol... Misread the first time, they are pretty comfortable
@panzer3279
@panzer3279 3 года назад
@@RayCabrera1 Thanks! I might just get the XM4, save $250, and buy a better amp for the 6xx.
@RayCabrera1
@RayCabrera1 3 года назад
@@panzer3279 I use the IFI ZEN CAN Amp with ZEN DAC stack. It works well for me.
@andrewanderson3746
@andrewanderson3746 3 года назад
Is it safe to say the K361 BT are your overall favorite wireless headphone? Trying to buy someone a pair of wireless headphones for Christmas.
@Rime0ne
@Rime0ne 3 года назад
What would you say is the best sounding over the ear BT headphones? Noise cancelling not required.
@garygriffiths7353
@garygriffiths7353 3 года назад
Damn wish I hadn’t ordered one. It arrives at some point next week. I might sell it and get some AirPod pros and a dark voice amp for my hd650
@TheArpage
@TheArpage 3 года назад
You can cancel the order and demand a refund.
@ianorigbo7617
@ianorigbo7617 3 года назад
Brilliant honest review. Glad we are seeing more and honest reviews these days.
@briandiego
@briandiego 2 года назад
What would you change in a second iteration AirPods Max Pro 2? I’d swap the lightning port and also make a proper charging stand/case.
@patrikbostrom5598
@patrikbostrom5598 3 года назад
I'm curious what you would think of the Dali IO-6 headphones.
@marksafe5463
@marksafe5463 3 года назад
Looking forward to K361BT video!
@MingofangYT
@MingofangYT 3 года назад
Brilliant detailed review, thanks again DMS!
@MisterChibs
@MisterChibs 3 года назад
Thanks for your review. Was hoping these Airpod Max would be better for the $ their charging. My Qc35ii are cutting out on me sporadically and I need a new wireless set. Tried the Sony XM4's but they didn't have enough space for my big ears. Not sure what to do now.
@l3yce583
@l3yce583 3 года назад
What is a relatively cheap way to somewhat try hifi? So from streaming to DAC... to headphones. Because I'm using spotify and bose qc 35 II and I would be curious how it could sound (and I'm also curious what is best to improve or rather where to begin improving)
@edmundgil6008
@edmundgil6008 3 года назад
Panda over the Max, & the Panda the best BT headphone.... period?
@spa2damax
@spa2damax 3 года назад
Only it doesn't have ANC. But apart from that it's superior in every way
@ideoidiom
@ideoidiom 3 года назад
Ananda BT is prob better
@suhaib1249
@suhaib1249 3 года назад
@@ideoidiom its for a very limited use case and I don't know what it is. Open back headphones can't be for commute and why would you want to do Ananda BT in your living room. Don't get me wrong, I have Anandas and they are one of my favourites and I am in love with that large sound but if I need something when I am out and about Ananda BT is not the answer. I considered Pandas too but lack of ANC is a deal breaker for me when I am travelling. If I want a BT headphone I am compromising sound and that's a deal we all make when we go that route, and after weighing all the options APM are the best deal for me. Can't stand boomy Sony's or characterless Bose.
@exol511
@exol511 3 года назад
@@ideoidiom imo Ananda BT is pointless (especially since it has no wired input). Better to go Wired ananda plus a BTR5 or UP4 if you want a wireless openback for home use.
@pjmt29
@pjmt29 3 года назад
Good thorough review. Did anyone else notice the dog appearing from nowhere on the bed LoL
@thetndixie
@thetndixie 3 года назад
My granddog!
@Nearest_Neighbor
@Nearest_Neighbor 2 года назад
Do you feel something changed sound and ux wise with firmware updates?
@nkmedia4335
@nkmedia4335 3 года назад
Hi! In a future video, could you give a try to the Monoprice M1060? Thanks
@anthonyberryman3443
@anthonyberryman3443 3 года назад
Great video mate, Blimey what a contrast, Hi Fi insider says it’s the best closed back headphone in the world he has every heard and thinks it worth every penny and should really cost more. He says people who are reviewing this are missing its biggest asset is the Dac in the headphone and how it changes and represents the music as the artist intended, can you comment on that side of the headphone?
@MrB10N1CLE
@MrB10N1CLE 3 года назад
'changes and represents the music as the artist intended' literally impossible claim unless they have consulted with every single producer both dead and alive on how each track is meant to sound.
@fireflame608
@fireflame608 3 года назад
HIFI Insider also loves how ALL the Beats headphones sound.... Generally found him to fall for the marketing a lot.
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 3 года назад
The DAC isn't anything special. It's limited to 320kb/s (mp3 quality). The DSP is cool by contrast but "as the artist intended" is a huge stretch. If we're talking wired headphones, there's significantly better closed-backs from the $99 K361 to the Focal Elegia, to many of the ZMF products. That said, everyone has a right to their opinion.
@anthonyberryman3443
@anthonyberryman3443 3 года назад
Yes, he does see to be a Apple fan boy, he even has Nicki Minaj pink version, how sad is that! Plus his comments about the Artists music is just ridiculous! Also his comments about the settings in the Sony WM1Z are bizarre, those settings give the user a option. I have the Sony XM3 and when I use LDAC via Bluetooth with my Sony WM1Z it sounds great and I have no problem with my Bluetooth connection so don’t no what he is on, plus it sounds much better than my IPhone using AAC codec from Apple that’s for sure. Even Bluetooth from my Sony WM1Z to my Chord Hugo 2 sounds fantastic so not sure what he is on about. Although my £500 Noble K10 from Drop don’t have ANC and Bluetooth once I press play on any of my devices I can’t hear anything and if I want to hear anyone speak to me I just press pause but more importantly every time I listen to music it’s puts a smile on my face and I am listening to fantastic sounding music for the same price as them Apple Headphones. I would recommend people purchase a second hand Campfire Audio Cascade , Dan Clark Aeon 2 or the Focal Elegia with £300 off at present or a second hand Campfire Andromeda if they want to hear want music can really sound like.
@ResolveReviews
@ResolveReviews 3 года назад
Sweater game is on point.
@TimothyDangpublic
@TimothyDangpublic 3 года назад
I wonder if the sound signature was any different when not in ANC or Transparency modes, as just in Off mode. Does the sound signature in that mode compare to the other non-ANC bluetooth headphones? Or when using with a cable, how does that compare to other wired headphones?
@avishka-don
@avishka-don 3 года назад
Can you do comparison/recommendation video for some who would like get into good sounding headphone but dont know much about what's out there other than Sony's and Bose. (I am currently using Sony xm3 would like to upgrade near future)
@aihkas
@aihkas 3 года назад
I’ve seen a ton of reviews of the Max recently, this was my best hands down.
@TarekMidani
@TarekMidani 3 года назад
Second 👍
@acmeanimebhabie7623
@acmeanimebhabie7623 3 года назад
I personally had never heard of this guy before and I'm glad youtube recommended me this video cuz I really enjoyed it.
@dillkommen
@dillkommen 3 года назад
After watching MKBHD's video I immediately recommended DMS in the comments. His content is so severely underrated.
@sidshady7413
@sidshady7413 3 года назад
"Apple has good customer support" Me : *laughs in unrepairable airpods*
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 3 года назад
F
@the0000alex0000
@the0000alex0000 3 года назад
last time i checked apple will replace it for you if it's faulty. being unrepairable doesn't make its customer support bad
@7654321220
@7654321220 3 года назад
Like a board swap for a loosen backlight cable lol
@Necropheliac
@Necropheliac 3 года назад
@@the0000alex0000 intentionally making it unrepairable so that you have to go to an Apple store or wait a minimum of 3 weeks to send your device by courier. I love my apple products but stop being the corporate defense force for this Trillion dollar corporation. Apple is a trend setter in the industry and not designing their products to be repairable is a cynical, anti-consumer trend. Anti-consumer practices are the epitome of bad customer service.
@muffinb5446
@muffinb5446 3 года назад
@@Necropheliac there are for sure problems with apples "right to repair" stance but someones there are clear benefits for making changes that might make the product not repairable.
@ATK.
@ATK. 3 года назад
The headphone accommodations sounds awful when I used it while using my BTR5 to listen to anything. Did you try just using the EQ setting in the Music tab?
@krkrbbr
@krkrbbr 3 года назад
Hey would really liked if you did a video about your top three non anc bluetooth usable headphones.
@Just_Pele
@Just_Pele 3 года назад
Conclusion: Puppy!
@pappsa8
@pappsa8 3 года назад
and i guess panda wins by far as sound quality after that?!
@benoproductions2711
@benoproductions2711 Год назад
Are the N700NC supposed to sound better? Wasn’t sure because of what you said about the market of noise canceling headphones.
@nekonhimedark5080
@nekonhimedark5080 3 года назад
How do you feel about the sound quality of ath m50x bt vs the pro max?
@houssamalucad753
@houssamalucad753 3 года назад
Perfect review. Made me realise that a normal airpods pro with a decent wired (or bluetooth) headphone is better for me.
@bgamervideo2714
@bgamervideo2714 3 года назад
Why do a pair of headphones make me mad? I think somethings wrong with me
@htetnaing9597
@htetnaing9597 3 года назад
Most people arent as humble as you
@bgamervideo2714
@bgamervideo2714 3 года назад
@@htetnaing9597 what did i say? Are you being sarcastic?
@leonkastilyo7463
@leonkastilyo7463 3 года назад
@@bgamervideo2714 I think he's giving you props, since you blame yourself for getting mad for a pair of headphones unlike many, who blame apple for selling them.
@ianorigbo7617
@ianorigbo7617 3 года назад
Because you just woke, knowing these companies package crap and market it to us.
@htetnaing9597
@htetnaing9597 3 года назад
@@leonkastilyo7463 exactly
@haarisblue06
@haarisblue06 3 года назад
At 14:44 you don't understand how happy I am that you pointed out that the mobius does this already lol. Haven't seen anyone else even mention the headphones. Great Video, good in depth analysis. 10/ 10
@theejpp
@theejpp 3 года назад
How do you think the Panda compares to this in terms of sound isolation at the same volume levels despite the Panda not being active?
@SKY11211213
@SKY11211213 3 года назад
Good that I knew these were too good to be true. The lightning port already showed it. 560s, 58x, Sony MDR M1ST, CD900st, DT770 and many more are more well rounded and cheaper. I guess NDH20 are better than too even when I dislike the fast decay of bass and lack of treble most of the time. I am like M1st + BTR5 and short cable, attach it to the headphone and boom, good bluetooth headphone
@starkk19
@starkk19 3 года назад
Again, you wouldn't buy these for sound quality. I have yet to see ANC headphones that could compete with 150 dollar audiophile headphones. It's just futile to even expect these to sound as good as that just because of the price tag.
@MikeMPharmaCyclist
@MikeMPharmaCyclist 2 года назад
The lightning cable on a $550 headphone is criminal.
@mhf0gamer
@mhf0gamer 3 года назад
been waiting for dms to review these. finally someone who actually describes the listening experience rather than just saying "wow omg they're so fckin amazing best ever apple number 1!!!"
@doctorshinki8848
@doctorshinki8848 3 года назад
Lmao yeah finally
@NovaRay
@NovaRay 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DmcVLW2jlIA.html This guy compare these with the big ol' Sennys HD600. What depresses me more was his testing rig, they are really trying so hard to join the Apple bandwagon
@dariussala6377
@dariussala6377 3 года назад
@@NovaRay If tested correctly, the HD600 will smoke these toys every day of the week.
@Taylor-cy3cd
@Taylor-cy3cd 3 года назад
What tube amp is that? I only use AirPods Pro right now but I’m thinking of getting the HD 6xx
@tyonde3973
@tyonde3973 3 года назад
How do they compare to the Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro comfortwise, especially the clamping force ?
@user-be5mj7wy8u
@user-be5mj7wy8u 3 года назад
Love the title.
@jpfeif29
@jpfeif29 3 года назад
10/10 would title again
@shawnyhu
@shawnyhu 3 года назад
Great review! Glad to hear that it does not sound good enough to be priced 500$
@jzuniga633
@jzuniga633 3 года назад
I don’t think that apple priced these solely on sound quality.
@BevelishCreations
@BevelishCreations 3 года назад
I don’t think you watched the whole review lol
@oscarbaia3
@oscarbaia3 3 года назад
When possible do a review for Audeze Penrose. Include some eq profiles you would use. Thank you
@TheBeeOBee
@TheBeeOBee 3 года назад
Where is the k631 in the description? You kept mentioning those numbers, and I don't see them.
@CasualDHK
@CasualDHK 3 года назад
Talking about airplane travel in 2020 😜
@xen-morph
@xen-morph 3 года назад
It is surprising that your review differs from other audiophiles, overal consensus is that these are good sounding and comfortable headphones, and the ANC is on parr or better the current best ANC headphones. The fact that you have problems with handoff, while others show no problems, with even fast switching between devices in seconds, is weird.
@gizzy2403
@gizzy2403 3 года назад
Maybe hes jus being a little more honest than th others or has higher standards
@Ophenix12
@Ophenix12 3 года назад
When you have multiple devices that you use (Mac, iPad, iPhone) handoff is hit and miss for me too. 95% of the time it works and then it'll get stuck on one device or register the correct device but not pass the audio. It's a software bug that'll be fixed eventually. It's probably that not everyone got that bug, but it's also something that Apple will fixe in a future update. I had less issues before I connected my Mac, I assume it's because Big Sir is still new and some kinks remain. Either way I wouldn't put too much emphasis on a software bug with a company like Apple (or Sony or Bose) since they do take the time to fix those.
@DMS3TV
@DMS3TV 3 года назад
Maybe some of the other guys aren't using them as much? Not sure. I've been trying to use them as my daily driver (10+ hours a day between work and home) for about a week. That said, I'm glad I don't have to use them anymore.
@gizzy2403
@gizzy2403 3 года назад
@Piyath I thought he made it very clear & concise what they excelled @ & what they didnt. Personally, they'd b building snowmen in hell before I'd spend that much $$ on a pair of headphones that didn't meet audiophile standards! As he stated, u could hav an audiophile headphone & amp for less than th Apple phones, or u could hav a pair that cost less than half of them that did almost everything better than th Apple. For that amount of cash, u cant help but expect audiophile fit, finish & function. I'm actually shocked it's not more comfortable, b/c to compete w/Sony& Bose in th mainstream you'd better hav comfort & advanced functions to b seamless & perfect! Sounds like Apple shit th bed
@wsmcke
@wsmcke 3 года назад
@Piyath I buy headphones for sound, not to be vain in how I look with them.
@dholy4038
@dholy4038 3 года назад
DUDE, you hit the comfort section right on the head. I have been feeling that temple pressure you are talking about from my AirPods Max and I have been trying to convince myself that it's just me. I honestly feel like I can't wear them for over 2 hours, I get a relief when I take them off. My Bose QC35II never gave me this pressure fatigue feeling.
@BladeRunnerJP11
@BladeRunnerJP11 23 дня назад
I currently have a pair of dt990 what would be a significant better headphones than these? That are not crazy expensive
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