At Wimbledon, many years ago, they have a tent where you can have your service timed, with 5 attempts, but you have to use their racquet ( a slazenger, as used by Tim Henman). It's a crap racquet, with poor stringing, so I only got up to 97mph
I was wondering the same. I'm not part of the bashing game as much as I am the reality game. The majority of the "15 year" group is foot faulting, missing the service box by miles, has the form of someone who started 6 months ago, etc... I think they should probably just say "I've been playing 15 years, but I only play about 10 times a year."
Learning point: Before a player even hits a warm up serve it’s easy to predict who has a chance to break 80 mph. Those who hold a Continental grip have a chance. The more the grip moves towards a Semi-western forehand grip the lower the chance of them breaking 80 mph. One guy broke this predictive rule, Gerry at 2:30. He basically had the physicality to break the rule, barely. In a alternate universe the same guy having learned a proper service technique easily breaks a 100 mph. Actually this video illustrates the sad state of knowledge of proper tennis technique in the rec tennis community. Only a few players knew to use a Continental grip when serving. It would be like coming across a pickup basketball game at a park where 8 of the 10 players were shooting Two handed set shots from chest height (newbie technique) and only 2 shot jump shots with a one handed release, the technique a pro player would use. The only time you might see this type of basketball game in reality is if you were watching very young elementary school kids and not adults at a park. In basketball a basic shooting technique (one handed release) is almost universally employed at the rec level but in tennis a equivalent basic technique (Continental service grip) is rarely found and doesn’t become employed almost universally until you reach the USTA 4.5 level. A level that includes some college players.
I agree. A few had proper grips and decent body mechanics. But, I saw very little in way of even the beginning of a proper serve from most of them. It's a shame really. And, it says a lot about how tennis clinics are failing players. Most clinics don't practice serves or serve returns routinely. The excuse is that you can practice those things on your own. It's just endless groundstrokes, volleys, and the occasional overhead. Many players don't want to practice serves or serve returns in a general hitting clinic as they feel it's a waste of time. The problem is that improper serve technique lead to inconsistent and low rated serves. It's the start every point, and return of serve always follows a legal serve. You can win a point with no volley, overhead, one groundstroke or no groundstrokes. I don't go to clinics anymore. I hit with people, play matches, and have the occasional private lesson. Saves money and you hit a lot of balls.
I serve with a slightly more rotated towards continental forehand grip on my flat serve and hit 90mph np. Swingvision calls it ~75 but if you count the frames and do the math it's actually around 90mph as it traverses the whole court. (30 frames at 60fps from baseline to other guy's service line is 90mph for reference) Off the strings, judging from the serves shown here, I'm easily over 100mph with my "incorrect" grip. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ya-YKcL9PRs.html
"In a alternate universe the same guy having learned a proper service technique easily breaks a 100 mph. " Pretty sure anyone with a proper service technique will hit a good serve..
Fun challenge. I hope those players improve by learning the foundations of a good serve eg continental grip, pronation etc . A good coaching lesson will work wonders 🎾🤞🏼
The biggest thing in a serve is the elevation of the contact point... most of these players were hitting up or across the ball at a very low contact point, no way that form will get them very far
Most of these players never got any decent coaching lessons. Any male with halfway decent technique should be able to hit at least 100mph. My average serve speed is around 102 mph including my second serve which sucks. As a coach I would recommend the gripfixer for most of the people in the video. An excellent teaching aid to fix weak grips on the forehand, serve and volley.
good for them for playing tennis and being excited enough to show off their game on camera. We need more gen pop people playing the sport. I'm tired of my local courts being used for that god awful pickleball.
Omg, just 1 person with a decent serve motion. Just with the correct grip and pronation added to their serve motion, they should all go above 80 mph. As a tennis coach, I am dumbfounded that no one taught them the basics...
It's funny how most people overestimated their serve speed...It often feels faster than it really is, and until you have it measured it's tough to know your serve speed.
I got the same radar gun as in the video. If you don't have a radar gun, when you make a flat serve and if the ball bounce in the serve box and then hit the back wall, then it will be a good serve. if it bounce twice then it will be below 80Mph.
Great video, highly representative of rec level serving. Even with a continental grip, getting the right hesitation in the power position, throwing arm straight up and hitting in the right spot fully extended is very difficult for most.
I remember when I first started and thought I was bombing serves, only to go to the citi open and serve at one of their serve speed trackers.. and fail. Hitting it as hard as I could, and nowhere near in, I got to 79. 3 years later went back and was still not there at the 94-98 range. I was pretty frustrated. Now, I think I'm there, but if it's one thing I've learned, it's don't overestimate how good you are; trade the estimation for the results.
@@Winners-Only playing a game with those practice rackets that have a really small head size. would be really funny to see a match using that by both players
Placing the radar on the service line is an instant 5-10mph more. Serve speeds are measured as the ball travels over the netline. Another interesting data is that this radar will measure higher speeds on balls travelling closer to it, so given where it’s placed, everyone should be aiming at a spot between the T and the middle of the service box, for a chance of a higher reading. Balls also make a difference, fresh balls can get you up to 10mph more. Source: I have access to one of these.
The pros serves are not 120 over the service line. That’s off the racquet. Same in baseball. It’s 99 out of the hand. If anything these guys are losing 5 miles per hour +. If I’m wrong, please point me to where I can find out how this is so. Thanks.
@@fuzziepandas I stand corrected, in pro tennis it is indeed measured as it leaves the racquet. But this device measures speed as the ball passes it by.
This sounds like a lot of fun to try! I've been playing for about 16 years but haven't had the opportunity to measure my serve speed in a long time. My serve motion is decent for my level but doesn't usually have the power/speed to consistently do damage with it. I think in the best case scenario I would barely get 90 since I've hit that speed before when it got measured, but I'm not sure I would reach 100 (especially in only 2 attempts and without it going out).
I know yall mad but I've been playing tennis for two years and it's so hard to learn without proper teachers/coaches, these people, just like me, maybe never got the chance to receive training even when they're been playing for a lot. I can't afford no classes and all I know is from RU-vid, so you might wanna check your privileges too
Just discovered your channel. Keep it up guys. Great content. I think that many of them said they had been playing for 15 years because they were mostly in their mid 20s and probably tried tennis for the first time around 10 years old.
There's a really weird edit at 1:37 where it cuts to a completely different guy serving to an empty court and then back to the original guy to make it seem like he hit that serve. What?
Not that crazy. Probably people in their late 20s that started playing in high school (around age 14), played 4 years of JV for fun (maybe second doubles) and never learned to serve with the correct grip.
@@LumpyPumpkin99 I've been playing tennis for 4 years now (im 15) and I learned multiple serve techniques. so i think these guys have just been playing for fun like once in a month or something with no lessons.
Either they are about playing 15 years or the US has very low standards for amateur players. I am 36 years old and have been only playing for 4-5 years. My serve motion and accuracy is far better than any of these guys who claim to be playing for 15 years. And I am only a 3.5-4 UTR.
I've said it 100 times, there are so many people (not all) who play tennis and many of them win matches due to craftiness and on court decision making (smarts), but many of them do not have much athletic ability, it's the only sport that can claim this fact. It seems nearly all senior tennis players have moved to Pickle Ball.
Hey bro? Come to city of orange CA. Am a self taught 3 and helf years. And I am suffering with bipolar depression. I think I have the confidence to ace you and also a big returned. I hoped to meet you guys one day in orange El Camino real park.
Y’all are so judgy in the comments hah. Someone playing for 15 years doesn’t mean they’ve been doing it every week, they may just play with friends every summer and have a good time. You all just need to calm down a bit.
I play highschool tennis and I cannot hit a good flat serve with the continental grip. But I can hit a good slice serve and pretty good flat serve with the wrong technique. When I try to hit a flat serve with a continental grip it hurts my wrist and I can’t get a lot of power. I think it’s because I’m not pronating right but I’ve have yet to find a video or coach that can correct it.
Try practicing by spiking the ball down against the court until you get a hang the contact point. Then try it against the fence. Then try it at the service line (aim for the baseline). Then try it from the baseline over the net.
@@stel104 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S10nJN2Y1og.html - about the most detailed and accurate explanation you'll find (don't show this to your opponent)
