Setting up OpenTX for a Flybarless Helicopter

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Eachine E160 video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vv25yLZ8m2s.html
OpenTX Heli Swash setup: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WzBz_IBTtYs.html
OpenTX Mix School: ru-vid.com/group/PLYsWjANuAm4o0zcX7RwmJxtflFGyTKwdY
Flashing 4in1 in the radio: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--nYw-QQM7cg.html
K-Bat flybarless controller I showed briefly: bit.ly/3f1Bj1r
Link to the OpenTX model (THIS IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE SHOWN AND INCLUDES MY OWN TWEAKS TO GAINS, EXPO and CURVES): www.dropbox.com/s/1g7p1cl7w51ccbq/E160%20final.otx
MPM channel mapping guide: github.com/pascallanger/DIY-Multiprotocol-TX-Module/blob/master/Protocols_Details.md#sfhss---21
MPM frequency tuning guide:github.com/pascallanger/DIY-Multiprotocol-TX-Module/blob/master/docs/Frequency_Tuning.md
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@LookatTheseMuffins 3 года назад

This video was extremely helpful, just what I needed. Thank you so much!

@124MPH 2 года назад

This is on of the simplist Heli set up I've come across, Thank you Lee, have Donated

@Painless360 2 года назад

Awesome, thank you!

@FlyingPanMan 3 года назад

Funny, I just left a comment on your Eachine E160 review and I have also been thinking of buying the exact same radio! Lo and behold, you've done a video on combining the two. I think I'll have to buy them both now! Subbed by the way.

@Painless360 3 года назад

welcome to the channel!

@elxero2189 4 года назад

You're finally doing heli ...yay... I've done it on my own already it really helps the user understand heli better now I'd love to see an audu pilot heli setup with gps etc lol

@RedPee2000 3 года назад

Thanks for the help again Lee!

@MCsCreations 4 года назад

Really, really interesting! Thanks, Lee! 😃 Maybe I get one of those! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@puntenpol 3 года назад

Great video, extremely helpfull, had to watch it 10 times at least but i got it now. thank you very much for your time and effort.

@adrianhawley4909 3 года назад

Fantastic Thank you so much Lee. wished I hadn’t sold my Jumper T18 now!!👍

@IceCreams62 4 года назад

Very very useful, thanks a lot Lee

@shaypeleg 4 года назад

Just what I needed!

@madmac5709 4 года назад

very good explanation !great job

@MrRudintzer 3 года назад

Very good,you always amaze me thank you

@mrph678 3 года назад

Great video. Got a tx16s on it's way to hopefully replace my dx8 for all my heli's. Be awesome if you did one for spirit flybarless systems as they've started to collaborate with openTx. Keep up the good work bud :)

@michaelb5189 4 года назад

It's always interesting to see how different people approach model building in OpenTX. This is a nice use of flight modes without egregious use of global variables which just makes things less intuitive. A couple of suggestions from a heli guy if you don't mind. I'm not sure why manufacturers set up so much negative pitch in "normal mode" in a helicopter designed for beginners. The reaction for beginners is to yank the throttle down when they get into trouble. With lots of negative pitch this just augers the heli into the ground. And second, cutting throttle is a good way to prevent damage if a beginner loses control. So it's best to run a flat curve for throttle cut on a micro heli as they lack a one way bearing for autorotationanyway . That way the blades just swing in the blade grips and you're less likely to damage more than the blades.

@Painless360 4 года назад

I agree - see my comment in the video. In 'normal' mode I think that -2 degrees is enough for a gentle decent when learning. No idea why they used an almost identical pitch curve for both modes.. Happy flying!

@DesertJeff 3 года назад

Been studying this thanks.

@TomR1200C 3 года назад

Thank you Lee - you made my day :-)

@NATGEOANDSTUFFPaulbrannan 4 года назад

Now this i like.great video lee.as allways stay safe

@Painless360 4 года назад

Thanks, you too!

@johncgibson4720 3 года назад

Thumbs up up up. The E160 flies for 15 minutes stock. Helicopters are here to stay for real utility businesses because any modification makes a 250 gram craft fly 30+ minutes all while HD FPV recording.

@ScowlerJase 3 года назад

My first flying passion was Helicpters too and I have also recently picked them up again after many multirotor years :-) You really need to check out the OMPHobby helicopters , the M1 & M2 models.

@chrisbee5481 3 года назад

Same here. Stoped with the trex 450 in 2012 and last year got back into helis with the M1. Had to learn all over and its so amazing how brilliant the performance on the M1 is. Quild quality is best ever. Used Jonas W setup on buddyrc chanel. Next is M2. Dont know if I want to revive the trex 450 with all these new sub250 regulations.

@3djc821 4 года назад

great video !

@franklinmellott2319 3 года назад

Programming my first FBL (Blade mCPX BL) w/ parameters per operating manual. Setting up 4 flight modes. Modes selected based on 4 logical switches "F" back & "E" back is default (normal) mode, "F" back and "E" mid or fwd are ST1 / ST2 modes. "F" forward and any "E" posit = HOLD. Each logical each set of throttle & pitch curves avail only in associated flight mode. Question: If I have no trims on flight modes, is there a reason to repeat no trims on mixes page?

@NATGEOANDSTUFFPaulbrannan 4 года назад

I have a little tiny one lol kids one from ages ago.these ones are awsome.

@ericubkd2189 Год назад

One more nice video, your YT channel is one of my favorites for OTX/ETX programming 🙂. In this video I was just wondering if there is a special reason to programm the D/R in the mixer? I learned and confirmed by myself that it's generally a more clever way to program it in the inputs rather in the mixer. Especially when the point was already discussed a few years ago in two of your videos 😉

@Painless360 Год назад

You can do it either way. There are benefits and drawbacks to both... Happy flying!

@Mstom178 4 года назад

THANK YOU!

@McS1110 4 года назад

Great instructional video

@Painless360 4 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@lloydprunier4415 4 года назад

I just got my Radio Master TX16S and I have a Eachine E119. Have to see what it will do!

@Painless360 4 года назад

Best of luck, using these same ideas should get you in the air!

@RumahkreatifKalibasau 3 года назад

Thank you

@AlanRait 3 года назад

I am REALLY struggling here. I've set my model (Trex500 heli) up in my Radiomaster TX 16S. I am no stranger to helis but what is completely new is the BeastX or Spektrum AR7200BX. My model seems to be behaving looking at outputs, but when I bind to the BeastX NONE of the inputs work. When I set up the model I thought I'd "mapped" the channels to the controller. The throttle is on Right Aerilon and starts at max to give you an idea...Please, any help would be appreciated. From a fellow Brit!

@arwo1143 3 года назад

I have a horizon hobby MCPXbl and a 300CFX as Helis and a bunch of foam for planes My DX6i is dying and this radio seems toe the best option.... A little bit more confident now that I can actually fly my helis

@ancherny 4 года назад

Great video! Negative pitch was a bit unexpected in 6-axis mode though.. Is there real need for that?

@FlyForFun286 4 года назад

I set mine without negative pitch for none 3d mode, I suppose it might be useful though forxauto rotation maybe..

@Painless360 4 года назад

Check the final model memory linked in the description . I've reduced it a lot. A little negative pitch can be handy in windy conditions to help controlled decents..

@5c0u53 3 года назад

Yeah lol because sometimes you want to land and wind is not your friend :D

@ApappieK 4 года назад

Thanks for educational videos. Question: most of my planes I own have RETA for inputs and mixers. Some iNav and BF stuff work with RETA inputs and AETR mixer. Why should my OpenTx mixer order always the same as the MM order? If I understand it correctly I'm not able to change my OpenTX mixing order anymore using a MM?

@Painless360 4 года назад

You can change the default channel order to be anything. It's in the radio setup in Opentx and so long as the channel order on the MPM is the same it will do a lot of the smart stuff for you... See the video all about this at the bottom of the Tx16s playlist.. Happy flying!

@ApappieK 4 года назад

@@Painless360 Thanks! As I didn't receive my Radiomaster yet to replace my very old Taranis, this was a moment of..... ohoo. I like the MPM cloning option sooo much. In the MPM manual I found that: "As of MULTI-Module firmware v1.3.0.45 and OpenTX 2.3.3, channel re-mapping can be disabled for a model by checking the Disable Ch. Map box in Model Setup". Open TX and this MPM is amazing :) Donate this work!

@brianwendel2528 3 года назад

Thank you for all your great videos. Have Blade 120 s2 and Taranis x9d plus. Looking for opentx download program ready to use on this heli. Was trying to use your download for this video. Throttle stays on. Can you direct me in finding a download? Thanks

@Painless360 3 года назад

This is the only one I've created. You can tweak this model to match what yours needs... Best of luck finding something ready to go.

@jamg563 3 года назад

hi great vid thanks can you set the level of gain on the gyro or is just 3axis or 6axis on off i have mine -100 +100 would different values give different gyro response ,destroyed my ark x400 the other day getting back into helis,,, as you do

@Painless360 3 года назад

It depends on the gyro and how it works.. Always best to be cautious until you are happy you know what ranges it needs. Best of luck!

@marcosalvioni3988 3 года назад

Many thanks for the video. I downloaded your model file "E160 final.otx" but couldn't open it with Companion which says "Error Can't estract radio/radio.bin". What does it mean ? Thanks again.

@Painless360 3 года назад

Not sure. I have not seen that. I'd Google that error... Best of luck

@Zollt76 4 года назад

Arducopter next?

@mikeminard4250 4 года назад

Do you have a video for setting up Inav for gas powered wing aircraft? Specifically throttle control.

@Painless360 4 года назад

I've not tried that. I would check the wiki for tips. Best of luck

@antoniofrance8 2 года назад

Merci beaucoup c’est très intéressant pour les micro heli je ne savais pas que cela était posible Je pensais que cela marcher a partir d’un helico type 450 Ce module peut il être adapté sur le XK 110s

@Painless360 2 года назад

cet hélicoptère semble avoir un contrôleur flybarless donc quelque chose de similaire fonctionnera. Il vous suffit de confirmer l'ordre des chaînes. Je testerais tout avec les lames éteintes... Bonne chance

@blakelove1991 2 года назад

Downloaded the file you provided. In 6G everything seems to work correctly according to the graph. When I switch to 3D mode everything seems to work but the throttle. it goes to 90% and no matter what switch is in what position the throttle doesn't change till you put it back in 6G mode. Of coarse I cant test the heli now as I didn't re calibrate my sticks before I tried it and it went crazy and burnt out a servo.. The calibration was WAAAAAAAAY of...

@Painless360 2 года назад

You can change the throttle curve for the modes. In the video example 6G mode also turns on 'idle-up' throttle curve to maintain head-speed during hard 3D moves. You can set it up to be different my editing that throttle curve. Best of luck!

@marshal7102 Год назад

Hello Painless 360, I was wondering would it be possible for these programmers to come up with a release for "Get This" an auto bind feature for multiproticol TX modules. I had this pondering around in my head and was wondering if this would be possible. It would be so cool if you could just select "Auto Bind" feature on the menus where "Bind" is on the selection and have it scan and find the proticol for a given RX in bind mode. What do you think????

@Painless360 Год назад

I;m sure they have had it suggested in the past. Why not suggest it to them in the Github pages for the project. I've always found a good reception for great ideas for improvements from developers.. Happy flying!

@marshal7102 Год назад

@@Painless360 Thanks so much, will do that, and You have the best channel for RC education thanks for all you do.

@firstmissionrc2908 4 года назад

I understand that I can conect a new transmitter via SBUS. You mention that it talks Futaba. Can I connect a Frsky receiver via SBUS?

@Painless360 4 года назад

Yes you can but watch the channel order - it'll be different..

@fa300ry 3 года назад

Hi Lee Do you know if it is possible to flash the Jumper T8SG v3 Plus with OpenTx to replace the DeviationTx , I find DeviationTx non user friendly , that’s why I want use OpenTx instead. Thanks

@Painless360 3 года назад

If it is on the list - www.open-tx.org/radios - then yes.

@lfrecords3970 3 года назад

i have 5 big goblin helicopters...i use futaba radio t18sz and R7008SB recievers on them all....is it possible i get rid of futaba radio and recievers at all and replace them with my new radiomaster? i have crossfire on the radiomaster also so i wonder what reciever can i use to replace futabas at all? the radio has some ready preset flight models to select...for helis for drones and airplanes..i guess that models presets is to use them to any aircraft and just slightly adjust them to our preferenses?

@Painless360 3 года назад

That is how I would do it.. Best of luck!

@lfrecords3970 3 года назад

@@Painless360 yea i know how..i dont know what recievers to get .thanks mate

@Painless360 3 года назад

I use FrSky X8Rs here for PWM/SBUS models and Crossfire Nanos for everything else.. See my builds.

@MrDrakeSirlit 3 года назад

anyone know any good tutorials on hooking up a frsky receiver? I've got an R XSR that I'd like to set up.

@Painless360 3 года назад

Non that I know of. I had to figure all this out myself as there was bu&&ger all useful information about, despite all of the comments on this video from people who seem to know all about this ;) The principle is the same but the channel order will be different. I'd guess AETRPG..

@passinthru4328 3 года назад

Just search in YT "how to bind to frsky receiver"

@RETROGAME-FIX 3 года назад

hi sir how are you? i m trying to build an ardupilot Traditional helicopter based on Radiolink Minipix FC, but m stuck with the settings and m not able to find a proper setup for it.. is it possible for you to make tutorial on how to setup the heli with Radiolink Minipix..? Thank you..

@Painless360 3 года назад

Check out my videos on Ardupilot builds. There are very good reasons that I use the flight controllers and kit I do in my builds - they work and are easier to setup. Best of luck!

@r6tc05 3 года назад

Will this setup work for a Trex 250 Pro Dfc with a 3GX Flybarless system?

@Painless360 3 года назад

The channel order may be different... Best of luck

@jakelang4387 3 года назад

I feel so dumb...hard to get it in my dumb brain...now Ive sett up 4 channel drones on my open tx radios but never a heli ,and that's what I'm trying to figure out on the jumper tlite..my mcpxbl 2 and m2

@thiagosannafreiresilva4366 4 года назад

How about ardupilot for helicopters? 😆

@NiCadHeliPilot 3 года назад

From what I have read of the documentation of it, it's entirely possible to set ArduPilot up for helicopters. Setting it up for practically "drone status" is one thing... I'll be damned if it's possible to set it up for 3D. Now, that I think about it... that gives me an idea. Put ArduPilot in one of my helicopters & set it up for 3D. Just to see if it can be done. =^/,..,^=

@NATGEOANDSTUFFPaulbrannan 4 года назад

What is the speed of these lee.

@Painless360 4 года назад

Pretty good, you can see some other pilots putting them through their paces with hard 3D flying..

@MrAcmewslee 2 года назад

Anyone can help me about the pitch issue? CH6 is set to be pitch control, and this has been simulated. However, how CH6 output to the Heli? I see no output on CH1 and CH2 while CH6 is responding.

@Painless360 2 года назад

What controls do channels 1 and 2 relate to in your setup?

@MrAcmewslee 2 года назад

@@Painless360 Sorry for my poor English. My question is how CH6 (collective pitch) to be functioned as the swash plate is only control by CH1 Ail servo and CH2 Ele servo. There is no CH6 servo? Appreciate to get your guidance.

@MrAcmewslee 2 года назад

Got this while cleaning my old heli. Thanks again!

@rickybobbyflyingwild8119 3 года назад

Hey bub can o do this on my qx7 I have the E160 an I likey radio I have lots of xm plus recivers thax

@Painless360 3 года назад

I used the onboard reciever so not sure how the. Channels would with with an Frsky RX. Should be easy enough to figure (without the main props installed!!) best of luck