4:54 The small one is Samuel. He is now a solo artist, and would have been the maknae is he stayed. If I remember correctly, his mother made him leave the company because he was 10/11(?), and thought he was way too young to debut. He's reaaally good at singing and dancing, so it's obvious that he could have fit in perfectly with SVT. I don't know if they still keep in touch, but they used to. They really adored him.
If he stayed with svt then he would’ve debuted older than he did anyway - he debuted as a duo a few months before svt debuted so it was pointless to take him out :(
@@lunarialoonatic When seventeen debuted he was 14, right? Still extremely young to debut but wouldnt have been the first case in kpop. Im glad he didnt debut with a group that young cause it can be so hard.
01:16:57 Oh honey… I’m half Korean half Greek. Mixed people very often feel like strangers. As example in South Korea, I am considered a foreigner, in Greece I am also considered a foreigner. The most frequently asked question to me is: "Are you from USA?" And I always like: “Shit here we go again”
not even just a mixed people thing. Even if you're culturally(?) mixed that happens (ex: korean-american etc, when you're ethnicity is different from the country's culture you grew up in). I'm fully ethnically and nationality-wise korean, but I grew up in a lot of different countries (moved a lot). But I spent my early childhood (5-10yo) in America, the age when you get influenced by your surroundings a lot. So I never feel 100% korean, nor american. Can't even call myself "korean-america" because I don't have an American nationality. Lol. No country feels like home to me. Home is just wherever my family is living atm.
Very few mixed race individuals make it in Kpop the two most popular to do so are Vernon and Somi. Vernon is very vocal about educating people about race and also is beloved by LGBTQ community because he is not afraid to show his support and believes everyone should have the right to equality.
@@XStrawberryFaun yeah Hueningkai's father is a German in blood and his mother is Korean but somehow they are called Korean-American because him and his siblings came from Hawaii
@@rinranhai4990 LMAO SAME, i’ve always said to myself that i need to bring a paper with the fanchant on concert’s day, no one would blame me, svt themselves use a paper during concerts 😭
Vernon is the most human person I have ever seen, he lowkey supports the lgbt community as well, made a gender transparent song, them performing for an event for AAPI hate crime is really something to admire about this group. they're been so supportive towards good cause and been vocal to it while just being lowkey about it
I watched their Ode To You concert in my country before the pandemic hits. And I must say, it is once in a lifetime experience. I really enjoyed that, came back home with sore throat after cheering so loud and *trying* to do the fanchants (which I executed horribly). BUT it is fun. So if you got the chance to go to their concert someday, YOU SHOULD! 100% WON'T REGRET THE EXPERIENCE!
answers to some of your comments/questions.... - 5:00 the littler kid in the pre-debut pics is Kim Samuel, he's actually a solo artist at the moment. He didn't end up debuting with SVT, i think partly because he was so young (in the pics he's 11/12), he would have been 13 when SVT debuted. - 7:30 you were right, that was Jun - 17:50 yep, chant goes oldest to youngest then youngest to oldest, not even with stage names either - Honestly they are such a mess without S. Coups - but (40:00) he was on hiatus at that point, i think due to anxiety. - wonwoo is a whole dork and he's brilliant - mingyu has actually gotten taller.... - but yeah the thing with vernon is actually really common, even if you were born in korea (half-korean or otherwise as long as you aren't entirely korean) you are usually considered/treated like a foreigner. You are actually more likely to be treated as a foreigner than a ethnically full korean person even if they had never been to korea before - this is apparent when you compare how tv show hosts or other koreans treat vernon compared to joshua (whose parents are both korean but who hadn't lived in korea at all until becoming a trainee).
Officially Caitlin, welcome to this beautiful if often chaotic fandom. You are never going to want to back out now. I do want to encourage you to watch some Going Seventeen episodes. Not necessarily doing RU-vid reactions but just on your own downtime. You can really see how they are as individuals through the “GoSe TT”episodes. They will have you in stitches pretty much the entire time. I highly recommend you checking out both of their Halloween specials. the first one (the Tag) will have you rolling on the floor laughing. And the second one “Ego” will terrify you. I am completely in love with this group and often find myself listening to their music almost on a daily basis. Just recently their music has gotten me through a hard time and a reminder that hope is always with you. Watching others discover Seventeen is always so awesome to witness.
No pressure and obviously watch it when you have more time but, I highly recommend checking out Going Seventeen. It's so fun to watch and a more organic way to get to know them in my opinion. I took a break from kpop for a while and, so I had tonnes of episodes to watch and I would stay up for hours binging it. It's so entertaining. Would highly recommend.
This was not included in the guide during Vernon's part but he's also has a really nice and unique vocal tone for a rapper. He's been getting more singing parts in recent seventeen songs and he sounds amazing 😭❤! Some of his famous singing parts are in Anyone (his beautiful falsetto is everything 😍), Kidult, Can't Run Away (this is basically hip hop unit's ballad song), 2 Minus 1 & Lie Again.
FINALLY!!! And thank you caitlin for wonderful reaction videos everytime! And pls dont stress yourself on those haters, and complainers and such. And I promise you, Seventeen is “the” group!
Yo hear me out. Im actually a chef on a 3-star Michelin restaurant, working. But when I got the notification that you posted a guide to SEVENTEEN, My coworkers were stunned that I screamed “Hell yes!”
god i truly love vernon,,, he is a super good producer and he always shows what he is listening to and he is such a music geek you cant tell he loves the craft (he is very much into PC music and hyperpop). He is also the second most credited member on seventeen obviously after woozi, but he is helping more and more everyday. He is such a special character and he is very true to himself and to what he belives in and who he is and you will see that as you get to know them. he is such a gem
I recently became a carat but I’ve known about since forever since Monsta x and seventeen are literally besties and debuted same month and year!! They became another chaos I love🥰😭
Hi Caitlin dear. I subscribed to your channel because of your first reaction to Seventeen and i fell in love with your genuine reactions!! Thank you so much for trying to get to know these talented boys. Take care and welcome to the diamond family 💎❤️
Once you start watching going seventeen, there's no way out.. And you'll realize nobody's normal. Hahahaha. Plus you can see how the make games fun by changing or adding new strategies & ideas. No other idols does it like them. I swear you'll love them even more!
The meaning of seventeen was actually debuting a group that caters to China, Korea, and Japan (like the NCT concept but without constantly adding members, Hoshi was supposed to be part of the Japan unit), and their average age was supposed to be 17 years old. At one point, 17tv trainees reached 20+ members but were unable to debut them because of a lack of funds. As the trainees got older, they change the marketing to debuting 17 members, but still due to lack of funds they weren't able to do that until most trainees left. When The8 or Minghao joined, Pledis' VP sold his house so that seventeen can debut, and they use their original marketing explanation of svt but instead of China, Korea, and Japan unit, they use the position units (Vocal, HipHop, Performance)
Just leaving comments as I go along because I can't help myself! 10:24: Thanks is one of my favorite title tracks! It's dedicated to Carats but beyond that, I just find the song and its choreo so goddamn beautiful. 10:28: Call Call Call is a BANGER!!! Also has some amazing choreo (I would say it's some of Svt's uniquest). It's also just an addictive song, the group ad-libs in the chorus are SO GOOD. 11:41: JOIN THE JJONGJJONGIE LIFE. He's insane. And the master of mischief. . And so weird. I adore him! 12:17: Fallin Flower is my favorite Seventeen track of all time! Absolutely GORGEOUS song and the choreo makes me want to cry and scream. 13:04: WONWOO CROP TOP. I KNOW. I KNOW!!!! But SERIOUSLY 24H is also a banger. God, their Japanese tracks really do hit differently (save for Power of Love....no comment) 30:15: I'M SCREAMNGGGGGGGGGGG. THE ABSOLUTE WHIPLASH. 34:19: I'm fucking crying at Mingyu's "enjoy it right now". His random English phrases give me LIFE. 45:25: Whenever you have time, you should really consider checking out Going Seventeen (you've probably heard this a thousand times by now, I'm sorry! but it's so good!!). So many iconic moments and it's just such a serotonin booster. Edit: Just saw that you're planning to watch it but dk when!! 49:19: TASTY. 1:16:21: I've never seen this video before. Making me quite emotional :-(
Hi Caitlin! I just wanted to say that I appreciate your reactions and your energy. Yesterday I was watching a reaction on another channel and I noticed I always feel bad energy from them. Whereas when I watch any of your reactions I always feel good afterwards. It doesn't matter if you like or dislike something. You have a respectful and positive attitude and energy. Plus you're funny. I always feel positive energy coming from you. I know sometimes you struggle with some things so I thought I should let you know my piece of mind too. I hope you are having a nice day and taking care of yourself 💜💜💜
I really like what you said at the end with wanting to just sit down and having a conversation with Vernon. With I get that feeling, that is how I know that I stan a group: I have all this content and exposure and appreciation for the group where all I want to do is just have a conversation with them. No fansigns, no photos, no gimmicks; just talking and hanging out and picking their brain on a few things
AAAAHH im typing this comment even before watching the video i'm honestly so excited for this and your journey with seventeen! thank you caitlin and welcome to the diamond life! much love
Thanks for this reaction!!! Love it!! Can't wait for the next parts. After getting to know them more, I just fell in love with all of them, I guess it's something that just happen to many carats. Thank you again!!!
i just found about you through your gidle reaction and I already love you omg I visited your channel and now you're reacting LONG on my bias group?! 🥺💚
Take your timeee with Seventeen, there's so much content from them and really enjoy that. You should really check out seventeen's album since debut bc for real every tracks in their albums are amazing, thats why we always call SVT albums as No-Skip Albumss
I've been around K-pop since 2013, and I have been following seventeen since 2017, I just never got to become a carat. I even have some of their albums and some Woozi's dolls. I'm excited to start this journey to become a carat with you.😭
You know what I've been putting it off for long enough now. It's time for me to learn all Seventeen members' names so thanks Caitlin for sharing these guide reactions too so people like me can join you on this journey. Let's go!
FINALLY!! Been waiting for this. I super enjoyed your reactions to svt and I know that time that you will slip into the diamond life. And here you are!! WELCOME TO CARATLAND! where your bias changes everyday, every minute or even every seconds.🤭😂😂
Hoping you will do this guide video to TREASURE also, I'm always love your reaction cause you always giving us honest reaction and hoping for more videos next and always be healthy Caitlin ✨💖 WE LOVE YOU 😘🦋
oh my god i was just thinking about your svt reactions today and you uploaded 😭 welcome to caratland caitlin! 💎 so glad to have you. i enjoy your svt reactions the most on yt! excited to start this vid
why is this suddenly finished? I don't think I've watched it for 1 hour. as a carat, I'm very grateful for reacting seventeen. I like your reaction videos especially for Seventeen. You are a very funny person, your demeanor is very pleasant, so that the audience can also get carried away. ok i will continue part 2!!
