SF6 Season 2 Changes: Jamie (He got MARISA DAMAGE now) 

His is still the worst in the game, but at least now he has a way to reliable get around fireballs. Especially Guile's with bakai.

Bakai always went through all fireballs. Been playing him since launch. Guile recovers too quickly to punish on reaction. It would have to be a hard read.

​@juice6521 In no universe is Jamie the worst in the game right now

@@iggydadawg9712 I said "his" as in his divekick.

@@iggydadawg9712 he just can't be tournament viable because he doesn't have a reliable anti projectile move

2MP is -1 now instead of 0. In masters they punish you if you throw an attack after 2MP

@robbytherob for sure, it ends your turn, more like a counter poke or setups button. Or going into rekka to add space.

The startup is still kinda slow though, so you will get through projectiles easier but punishing is a different story

@@baldbishop1667 sad thing is that 2MP has less range than 5LP. Totally useless move that is only used for stuffing a 2MK from a block string.

He's not a main character. He's a make up wearing momo.

@@malcolmjelani3588 It's okay to intimidated by men who are better looking than you. But at this point you should be used to it.

Is he supposed to though? I know he's besides Luke but he doesn't feel like he has a ken/ryu dynamic. I might just not know the lore though.

@@XEndlessSteelX yes im used to it. Hes still a momo.

@@XEndlessSteelXoof got em’ lol nice one

Still won't stop me from playing Jamie. He's a lot of fun and nothing will change my mind.

@@alainchristienemendoza9982 not disagreeing about that lol. Play what you find enjoyment in! I just meant in terms of power level I don't think he changed all that much this patch, still a cool character

Thank you lol people go crazy for literally anything, character is still super pointless

​@@JC_1000 and who is this character that is super pointless?

⁠@@alainchristienemendoza9982Jamie. Who else

How? He just loses his turn and his opponent can strike throw him. Before he could reset neutral and remain safe from any immediate mixup.

@@YMan-zo5kg You might be right but iirc if he was minus then he'd already lost his turn before, either getting punished or he was minus in throw range so I don't know what you mean by just resetting neutral

@@Sriks49 if you are barely minus or barely plus and outside of most lights and mediums range then you’ve pretty much reset neutral. If you can back dash without getting hit after being minus then you pretty much reset neutral.

@@YMan-zo5kg ok sure but you're still the same amount of minus and same distance from the opponent in the new patch right? The distance is only really relevant once you get into plus frames on divekick, though I don't have a way to test the old patch

@@Sriks49 I haven’t checked it out enough, but I thought he lost most all pushback?

Not a lot for sure 😂

This combo still does 6.6K with a lvl 2 Drink Jamie

It's like a combo you can do by just pressing a button in a set timing In a set sequence. Like Jamie's 3 little punch combo (free flow strikes) or Ken's medium medium heavy kick.

​@@Crouton-Yup. It is essentially a special move that has a follow-up or several follow-ups that require the player to input afterwards. Named after Fei Long's qcf+p Rekka Ken special which you do the motion three times to get all three moves out.

That's absolutely not plus bro

Too quick and too safe, would be like old cammy knuckle.

@@maaziqbal357 I was thinking Karin lol. She had it for almost the entire duration of SF5.

Join us brother

Do it. Just remember it’s not alcohol, it’s a herbal mixture… Ahem

Give him Cammie's divekick and a key's DP and he becomes S tier overnight.

Shouldn't be a problem. Jamie is designed to be that way. Plus, there's a lot of ways to get drinks whilst getting away with it.

@@alainchristienemendoza9982lol tell me that after you get put in the corner off a whiff punish round start by a Ken and have to eat his pressure on level 0. Jamie is still one of the easiest characters to snowball because he starts out handicapped and he’s nothing special at level 1 or 2.

​​​@@YMan-zo5kglol, why so salty? You sound like you really hate Jamie with a passion. Just let people play the character they like and quit being a sourpuss because no matter what you say, there's nothing you can do to stop me from playing Jamie. 😜

@@alainchristienemendoza9982 I’m actually one of the players who would like to see Jamie buffed more. Also I like to let a fool know they are being naive when I see it.

​​​​​​@@YMan-zo5kgYou were so negative about Jamie being nothing special when he's at drink lvl 0-2. Now you're telling me that you're one of those players who like him to get buffed more after all the negative things you've said about Jamie? What's your point? What exactly are you trying to prove here? You want me to believe that you're the only one who knows everything about the character? If you don't have anything good to say, just keep it to yourself because you make me sick and that makes you a fool not me.

I strongly agree with this. The damage of some characters is absurd. Especially ryu marisa and zangief

@@azizkash286I kinda disagree, especially on Gief and Jamie. Gief needs to put in work, play extremely careful, and can’t rely on the same explosive DR and quick options as Luke or Deejay. Jamie can do 7k sure, but you need to be drink level 4, you need your level 3 Critical, your full drive gauge to be spent and either a crumple punish counter or punish counter while you opponent is in the air to be able to do this. In other words, the times where Jamie can actually pull this off are close to non-existent. And it goes without saying that despite all these buffs Jamie is still by far the one who needs to put in the most work to reach a point where he can really dish out big damage. Most of my fights never reach 4 drink levels. Ryu on the other hand, yeah I agree. He was already really strong before, if anything it wasn’t on the damage side that he was lacking. But nerf Luke and Deejay? Totally warranted. They’re still extremely strong. As a matter of fact Luke even got buffed in some areas and while he might be contested now I wouldn’t be surprised if he was still in the top spot or close to it.

Jamie should be rewarded for getting to 4 drinks. He has to work so hard for it especially in certain matchups.

If you let Jamie get to Drink level 4, you should have already lost the round. That means he's won 4 interactions and chosen to drink instead of getting oki. If Ken wins neutral 3 times you'd be dead. The only character who can't stop Jamie raw drinking is Gief. Everyone else can driverush punish him from basically anywhere on the screen.he

He could do exactly that much damage last patch bro, what are you talking about