Like most people, I had a high opinion of academia until I actually entered the academic world as a mature student. I quickly learned many 'facts' were actually opinions and treated with the same infallibility as religious doctrine. I also learned academics are human and subject to same fallibilities as everyone else: lying, cheating, ego, greed etc. To not question history is possibly the most stupid statement I have ever heard.
In my 'Meet the Team' section I forgot to mention 'Period Interpreter at the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust' - welcome to the comments section Angela Din!
It would be great if someone read your comment and did it, it sure would cause a big headline for the news and there would be a lot of mad people, makes me laugh just thinking about it.
What do you mean by the Stratford Disneyland? I live here and it's just an ordinary town for the most part, with more than its share of theatres and a few old buildings that tourists like. Oh and a beautiful park by the way, even if you don't care about Shakespeare.
@@goodlookinouthomie1757 Watch the video again, and try to understand. When you say, it is just an ordinary town, with a lovely park, no-one is going to disagree with you. BUT- ALL the tourists who go to your town are there for one reason. ALL those theatres are there for one reason. ALL those tourist shops selling tourist items are there for one reason. MOST of the teashops and cafes and fast food chains are there for one reason AND THOSE OLD BUILDINGS, that are open to paying tourists are only open to tourist for one reason. The REASON is William Shakespeare. But the TRUTH is that he was PROBABLY NOT born in the place where they sell tickets to his birthplace .... AND that building has been completely rebuilt abd has the buildings on either side added, only 200 years ago, to make more room. It is as real as a Mickey Mouse House. ANNE Hathaways famous cottage, DID NOT BELONG TO HER FAMILY. Shakespeare's mother's farmhouse dud not belongvto his mother. Shakespeare's daughter's husvand's house is mych too modern. Shakespeare's school? No-one knows if he went to school. Shakespearw's plays? What do we KNOW? WE KNOW that the man from Stratford left his older wife and three little kids and went to London where he joined a theatre company. We know that when some plays were published for his theatre company, the printer pit his name on them, but we DO NOT KNOW if he wrote them. But every year, thousands of tourists come to Stratford, just the way they go to Disneyland. We KNOW Disneyland is FAKE but we love the stories. The Birthplace of Shakespeare us just as FAKE, but tourisrs love the story and keep right on visiting, and buying souvenirs, and spending money in your town. THAT is why it is like Disneyland.
@@arealphoney What evidence do you have that Shakespeare was “PROBABLY NOT born in the place”? The house was disassembled, rotted beams were replaced, and it was rebuilt on a (then) modern foundation. Houses on either side were demolished to create a fire break. The SBT documents this on their own website, so nobody is hiding anything. Anne Hathaway was raised in the older parts of Anne Hathaway’s Cottage, which was expanded over the years. So what if she didn’t hold the deed? The formerly named Mary Arden’s Farm was renamed Palmer’s Farm when documents were found identifying the farm next door as the one belonging to Robert Arden. Hall’s Croft was owned by Dr John Hall before he and his wife inherited New Place. It was extensively added to after Hall sold it. All of this is documented on the SBT website, so nobody is hiding anything. The vacant lot where once stood New Place was acquired by the SBT in 1876. If they were such frauds, why didn’t they just build a conjectured house on it as you claim they did on Henley Street? Did he attend the local free school his father, as an alderman, was paying for and hiring teachers for? He learned to write (and therefore to read) somewhere, though his father was wealthy enough to afford private tutors, were he inclined to be wasteful. His peers even described Shakespeare as not being highly educated, and Ben Jonson specifically described Shakespeare as having exactly the level of education one could acquire at an Elizabethan grammar school. And please stop using WE when lying about the existing evidence. What Scholars (and anyone else who cares to look) know about Shakespeare from contemporary documents is a lot more than what a bunch of conspiracy theorists who refuse to acknowledge what is right before them know. The gentleman and actor from Stratford was identified as a poet by at least twenty well-placed contemporaries, many of whom were his close friends and colleagues. We have his handwriting on a play manuscript. He included people, places, and events from Stratford in his plays. The evidence is extensive and compelling, convincing everyone but a handful of crackpots in denial.
@@onefeather2 we have one of those here too. truthful governments are pretty thin on the ground. always thus. protecting short term vested interests and the status quo is what humans do. i reckon if some incontrovertible evidence oxford wrote shakespeare came to light, like a letter written by him talking about writing hamlet, it would change nothing. it probably has actually and been redacted
Years ago I can remember someone telling the story of an American couple, having just visited "Shakespear's house," being told by a local that Shakespear's car could be seen at the Cotswold Motor Museum!
Alexander, your sarcasm and derision are well-deserved, on point and very entertaining. (As an architectural historian I am appalled by the entire bamboozle.) Keep up the great work!
What a marvellous revelation, to finally understand that I never answered a single question in any of my history exams incorrectly, and that my responses were simply the 'complex' version of the facts!
Thanks for posting. I have wondered if this was actually the birthplace or not and trying to find a clear answer has been difficult. A few sites on the internet say "may have" or "possibly" but many others, including the Birthplace Trust website, say it is the actual birthplace. This clears it up for me. I visited Stratford-upon-Avon as part of a tour many years ago, but now I feel ripped off and deceived. They have a vested interest in distorting the facts, though I'm sure not alone in doing this, for the tourist trade. But, for shame.
Excellent video. Sadly, the general public suffers from the delusion that "not for profit" organizations are somehow more noble and less suspect than "for profit" organizations. In fact the reverse is often the case. Although "non profits" have no "shareholders" looking for "profit", the "non profits" often have bloated executive hierarchies who profit handsomely in inflated salaries. "Non profits" also usually deal in more abstract subjective values (than say, toothpaste manufacturing) where the kind of fraud this video describes can easily escape scrutiny. The second mass delusion illustrated here is what I call the "George Washington slept here" con game. We should all appreciate antique art and architecture for what it is and place no added value on it because it was maybe "made by" or "lived in by" some famous person or artist. Such attributions have spawned an industry devoted to the production of fakes.
Very interesting thoughts. I'm totally new to this subject and I'm already drifting in a direction similar to yours. The lack of intelligible criteria for accountability seems to feed corruption in academia as well as in absurd institutions like this.
"It is dangerous and immoral to question history" As someone who minored in history though I majored in English, this makes no sense. Questioning history comes up at some point if anyone has ever taken a college or university history class. This comment by Wells is simply slavish silliness.b
Just a brilliant expose of the Shakespeare trust and others of the same ilk. Surgical, insightful, rye & very fluid. Many thanks. Stratford on Avon is mostly a manufactured Disney land for the sadly misinformed.
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This is so good. As an English teacher in America for more than 23 years, I have been ridiculed and scoffed at for even mentioning that Shakespeare was not written by a man names William! The evidence presented here is amazing! The truth has been unleashed! Thank you for your amazing work! Have you ever considered speaking to a class of high school students from America? I would love to set it up!!!!
Hilarious! Alexander Waugh here is single-handedly wrecking 5% of England's tourist industry. "Welcome to this bogus house!" You may use the lavatory as long as you have spent $10 in the gift shop! (You Brits have learned well from American marketing men ... or maybe we learned from you!) I feel that the Trust should also state (perhaps guarantee) that a tourist cannot possibly die at Stratford-upon-Avon while he still has two pennies in his pocket!
@@MrAlexsegal stratfordians certainly have as tenuous a relationship to evidence and reality as postmodernists. even the same disdain for known facts. pseudo historical bullshit would not be too strong a description. this is great. i get to slag off both post modernism and stratfordians!
I still recall my 15 day UK tour in 1987, having read beforehand that the origins of the houses and the authorship were doubtful and breezed through the Stratford crowd saying, yes it's quaint and all, but I don't have reason to believe any of it, etc. Hard to conceive this was 35 tears ago!
I wish I saw this prior to visiting Stratford-upon-Avon. This is eye opening. I had my reservations all along and this cleared it. Well told, cleverly narrated.
This video is kind of awesome and having watched many of your others today, hilarious! was a nice break between going back into the heavier information videos. TY for them all x
The so-called 'Birthplace' has always been a joke, but you've given 'The Birthplace Trust' a genuine punchline, turning it into a complete oxymoron. (Alas, that Ox is more on the mark they'll never accept, rather, on the pound, 40K of them.)
When you're making a ton of money off of HIS story it is immoral to question it... It's sad and disturbing what these crooks have done to our true history. So full of themselves they'll never realize it's just their ego in control. Smh
This type of thing goes on all the time. Just look at the engineered virus which is so blatantly a scamdemic. Big Pharma makes a killing by selling vaccines so of course they don't want people to question the narrative. And all the educated (not enlightened) 'journalists' , 'teachers' etc., just support the system of control. The corrupt system will crumble eventually.
@@misssarahashplant7493 _Will_ it? How? Wish-fulfillment fantasy wishing? I notice that this is what children do when they have no capacity for making their parents change. But *politicians* 1) citizens & can be charged, prosecuted & arrested, 2) have no legal precedent for forwarding into policy anything We The People don't want & 3) don't do the forwarding for free & 4) would be committing a federal crime if they were accepting private $ while in public office. Seems to me the children in Western nations don't _have to wait_ for any system to collapse. They can act to hold the people running them accountable now. If they would grow tf up.
Very comprehensive and revealing breakdown. One of the highlights for me was Well's incredibly hilarious way of attempting to make Shakespeare the "Everyman", one we can all own. One of those rare jokes that makes me crack up every time I remember it, even days later. Precious!
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I’m decades late to the formal debate but it seems quite obvious that Professor Carol Rutter’s statement is best finished with the words “Edward de Vere.”
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Makes me wonder if Wells' mission in life is to NOT study Shakespeare, after hearing him say in a docu "the plays aren't especially learned". So - is Wells not learned enough to understand the myriad classical references, and is saying therefore they aren't there, so don't go trying to understand them, or letting the meaning of the plays open up? Including Greek ones that were only available in Greek, not translated, at the time, such as Sappho? It's the opposite of what a scholar should ever say or do, this tourist trap shenanigans aside. And if every line reflected the grammar school, would these writings be the most transformative and important in the English language?? How they think these statements make Shakespeare sound like something we should even bother with at all, honestly, I can't imagine.
Brilliant, Mr Waugh! Dry in extremis and massively cathartic for those who are simply sick to death of the Stratford twaddle. It's all beyond belief. Well's 'What was he really like' section' left me almost breathless with amusement and disbelief.... Just been to stand at the foot of Castle Hedingham's Keep and think about De Vere's early years....I wonder if much is known about his youth up to his father's death?
37:36 SBT still selling this portrait as 'William Shakespeare' despite yet another controversy about the real gentleman in the painting? Shoking... There is so much about Sir Thomas Overbury in terms of painting and drawings and actually.. yes...Wiliam Shakespeare does look like Sir Thomas Overbury indeed... being sarcastic..please don't flame... :)
Great work in decoding the mysteries. The parts you found wrong in the writing of Alexander Waugh are purposeful and further allegories of the great mystery, following the same path as the Will of the I AM.
Can't someone sue this "non-profit" for fraud? Clearly many of their claims can be shown to be demonstrably false. If they are knowingly de-frauding people by perpetrating so many falsehoods, can't they lose their non-profit license? Or something?
Ok no u didn't ur using someone else's writing to substantiate ur claims....i mean show one scrape if written word...one letter of his handwritting...cause there isn't any
Very amusing. There are quite a number of buildings in China that are modern reconstructions and most tourists (and tour guides for that matter) are none the wiser. This includes the section of Great Wall most tourists visit in Ba Da Ling. (Just as Stonehenge is a modern reconstruction set in concrete, albeit with the original stones). To see how we have outdone China is actually rather satisfying and now that the Shakespeare Birth Trust are collaborating with China, who are building their own copy of 'Shakespeare's house', it seems fitting. Of course, not understanding CCP psychology or politics the trust probably imagine the project helps glorify Shakespeare but the Chinese are actually doing it in a desperate attempt to elevate their own candidate for world's greatest writer, Tang Xianzu by association with Shakespeare and Cervantes. It's therefore rather ironic that we are getting one over on China by selling them a dud house.
I visited China in 1981 and there was one small section we could visit. After a few years there were a few miles worth. Each time we were allowed to visit a new section, we took the day out and had a picnic. We travelled in 1981 by Trans-Siberian, very basic stuff, the food gradually ran out, and we could get off at the border and watch them changing the bogies in the train shed. Now I see they pay ten times as much for golden train seats and goodness only knows what. We grew up near Stratford and knew that much of it was knocked down before it became a popular tourist spot.
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The is a good description of visiting the pre-improved 'Birthplace' in Nathaniel Hawthorne's 'Our Old Home' (and his meeting with Delia Bacon) but you probably know this.
Just popping back in to let you know that at the very least you have inspired many people like myself to think more, and that in and of itself, is vital to personal growth. How can we claim to be a civilized society if we do not question things? There is so much that is unknown about the life of "Shakespeare". We may never discover the whole truth. I do find it rather disappointing that the U.K. government provides so much financial support to what is essentially a tourist trap.
Look if the traditional bio ( which the personality of the works fits like glove ; ) ) that should be a circle to discuss the works, as works, as a personality behind the poetry. The people doubting it in my experience are morons. They know nothing about the rennaisence English state or culture or their bloody Othello from their Ophelia. They can't discuss poetry. It's all conjecture based in the idea what? A smart lad couldn't learn to read and write well? It's pathetic.
You have to admit that Prof. Wells looks very authoritative except when he opens his mouth to speak. I have to assume he was a classmate of Old Will at the much admired grammar school.
Would love to hear your opinion of the advent of the public’s “access” to crypto technology as a tool; re: what this has done to the keeping of the “Shakespeare secrets”, and moreover the crypto secrets of Masons, et al?
I have had one dealing with the SBT. They display at the Birthplace and on the internet (and sell extremely expensive replicas of) Shakespeare's 'Signet Ring'. This is a gold ring engraved with the letters W and S, entwined by a true lover's knot (which even forms a heart), and surrounded by an outer edge of small knobbles. This is a well known Tudor ring form, of which at least 3 other examples can be seen on the internet and more are known - it is a betrothal ring, the names of the betrothed tied together. In this case Walter and Susan for example. It was purportedly found in a field next to Holy Trinity Church just when 'Shakespeariana' was taking off after Garrick's Festival, and lots of other Shakespeare artefacts were coming to light. I pointed this out to the SBT, with photos of the other similar rings attributed as betrothal rings, and suggested they should at the very least include in their description a caveat that this might be the case. They absolutely refused to recognise even the remotest possibility that this was not 'Shakespeare's Signet Ring'.
Funny, but when I was there they told me it had a dodgy provenance and it's connection to Shakespeare was purely speculative. They say as much on their website. www.shakespeare.org.uk/explore-shakespeare/blogs/shakespeare-100-objects-shakespeares-signet-ring/
@@WolstanDixie Last time I was there was 2007. You might have just gotten a dumb docent. I was shocked at how poorly informed most tour guides were at historical sites in England. Contrary to some paranoid claims found on these pages, the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust isn't loaded. According to the Charity Commission, the annual income for the SBT is about £11 million. You can't afford to hire a lot of expertise on a budget like that.
Well I did have an email exchange with someone professing to be an expert! Apart from anything else, a signet ring (designed to impress your initials into a wax seal), would have the initials reversed and so it should read S (reversed) W.
@@WolstanDixie "Shakespeare's" signet ring (the one dug up in 1810) IS reversed. A lot of photos of it are reversed so it is "right reading". It's definitely a signet. Probably the reason it's so tantalizing to Shakespeare scholars is due to the signing of the will. As Shakespeare's lawyer hastily shoved the rough draft of his will under his dying hand, he was forced to amend the language. Originally the lawyer had written: "In witness whereof I have hereunto put my hand and seal..." The word "seal" is struck out. Either Shakespeare did not have a seal to put to the document (something both unusual for a man of his station and unlikely that his lawyer would not have known) or when it came time to employ it, it could not be found. It's fun to speculate, but it's literally impossible to know for sure.
Dangerous and immoral to question history? I’m interested in the context of that declarative, because I’m hard pressed to imagine a more academically (to say nothing of intellectually) irresponsible thing to say.
If you want the full context of Professor Wells' inanity you will find it here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YfJ45tT6pV0.html&ab_channel=UniversityofWarwick
@@alexanderwaugh7036 thank you! I don’t want it to sound like I’m accusing you of taking him out of context, as that statement seems unequivocally damning, at least to anyone who would like to consider history a curriculum full of lessons best not repeated.
The question addressed here is what connection (if any) did 'Stratford Bill' have to the buildings currently exhibited by the Birthplace Trust? The matter of the Bard's identity is dealt with in other videos on this channel. You will find the contemporaries of William Shakespeare do not share in your belief.
So Rutter notes that the plays reflect the grammar school even though no records indicate whether he went to school. Wells mentions amongst other things shakespeare going to school as if this is established fact. It's just the most ridiculous load of codswallow, a fantasy matrix that has been seen as real for so many decades.
The Stratfordians accusations are their confessions. Bloodsuckers, parasites… funny the similarities between these words and words from another historical period. Hmmm, I wonder what the connection is to questioning the authorship of Shakespeare and these words? I’m mystified.
Why something so ground-shaking is gleaning only 28 views a day is something that puzzles the will. Clearly much is old news but when garnered surely it becomes News in itself. Where is the BBC when it's needed? Bang the drum loud Mr Waugh - I am seeing little here to refute what you say you are onto something that will change our interpretation of history in a fascinating way! KP
@@Short-Cipher I do like a bit of Hamlet and it has De Vere's autobiographical imprint. So yes the pun was intended doubly so! I am glad someone else got it - I am sure it was n't missed by Mr Waugh! KP
Call me dangerous and immoral if you must, but could you provide your sources for the mistakes in the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust book that you pointed out?
Mac, you’re ‘dangerous and immoral’ if you don’t know B Roland Lewis ‘The Shakespeare Documents’, 2 vols, Stanford University Press (1941). All the sources are there.
Well it seems that the SBT has little to do with Shakespeare (the real author), absolutely nothing to do with his birthplace, and cannot be trusted! As you show at the end, this whole term falls apart.
I am going to add my usual comment with regard to the Overbury portrait. I will just say that the collar he wears in the Stratford version is Spanish reticular needle lace. The collar is fabulously expensive. It demonstrates the man's extreme wealth like a chauffeur-driven Rolls Royce. It is hard to ovetstate how significant that collar is. The Shakespeare Birthplace Trust MUST KNOW that no reputable art historiab agrees that the portrait is OTHER THAN Overbury. Regardless of what an Auction house might claim. By purchasing, publishing and promoting that portrait of Overbury as Shakespeare, they are not simply misinforming the public, but promoting a fraud.
While I DO agree that it’s Overbury, it’s also not a photograph. The artist could have painted him looking like a king and that wouldn’t mean he actually owned a crown.
@@Jeffhowardmeade , No. Not at this date in English portraiture. Hypothetically ANY artist could paint ANYbody looking like ANYthing. That is a Junior High School debating team argument. However, if that was done, then it would be seen as extremely presumptuous The evidence of the collar is that this is an extremely rich person. A member of the nobility might have themselves painted in a way that likened them to a Classical hero or deity, e.g. Mars or Diana. At this date, in England, it would be a reference rather than a whole representation.
@@arealphoney So you are claiming that people were painted in exactly the clothes they walked in with? Was there some sort of professional code or guild which demanded this? Or are you assuming that sumptuary laws -- which said nothing whatsoever about accessories like lace -- forbade a mere gentleman and groom extraordinary of the chamber to King James from wearing a fancy collar? If your claim is the former, please recall that Shakespeare's landlord made such accessories, and he could have borrowed one, or maybe worn one from the wardrobe department at the theater he owned. If you don't want a middle school debate, bring something more than middle-school logic and knowledge.
@@Jeffhowardmeade , We have had this conversation before. Making little lace borders and braids is not in the same category as a piece if Spanish reticular needle lace. I have told you it is the equivalent of a Lamborghini. Shakspeare could not borrow it from the shop next door. Socially, it would be considered really impertinent to take on the trappings of the aristocracy, if you were not. No law forbade it. But it was inappropriate. Marlowe was portrayed in bulky jacket to big for the wearer. Both he, and Shakespeare in what may well be genuine portraits, wear the collars appropriate to a well-dressed businessman or scholar. And yes of course any artist could paint any person in any clothes or mznner that the person paying for it stipulated. But I am going to tell you again that this collar, and large bobbin lace collars could not be borrowed from someone who did some tatting and made braid. Because collars like this are seennin portraits of the period, it might be possible to see them as a "norm" .... that is what people wore .... No. I recently went to the Franz Hals exhibition, and observed that the Laughing Cavalier, which we take for granted as being the standard Frans Hals and gentleman if his age, was in fact the most richly dressed of all the men on display. And his wealth, as displayed in his lace, was remarkable. Shakespeare could not have "borrowed" a collar like that.
@@Jeffhowardmeade , just to clarify, I did not say that owning THIS collar was like owning a Mercedes or a BMW. THIS collar is in a different class. You dont seem to have taken that in.
I love your work, when I can hear it. Halfway through this video you seem to have turned into Mr. Mumbles. I hope the production quality improves with more practice. Good show otherwise.
That old man who said it is immoral to question the history is he sane or what!? So it is morral not to search for the truth but immoral to do so...what kind of scholar is he!??
@@misssarahashplant7493 : Wow...so right you are ...Socrates...most wise man who said : I know that I know nothing....so he left us this legacy to absorb more and more knoledge every day....So did the other favourite of mine, Rene Descartes : " Dubito ergo cogito, cogito ergo sum" ...It is out of question to get along with a so callec sh0cholar who "teach " us not to put questions on what he states about an issue....For me this is just a joke does not deserve our respect at all...
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@@misssarahashplant7493 : Agree with you my lady...I just made an observation about how mental illness might disrupt a genuine true thinker... Verba volant, scripta manet....Indeed I have no confidence in so called Shakespeare Trust from Stradford upon Avon. A "cow good for milking ". Best wishes from Bucharest...
Hilarious, and sad. Stanley is an idiot but quite dandy. "I can't understand it, so it must be wrong* Why would anyone need to be cryptic writing about the 'Bill Shakspeare' of Stratford?
Sounds like a great con and money maker...how disgusting. But if there is one thing Trump.exposed is if someone starts name calling they are guilty of what they ACCUSE u of.
