SHAMAN in Cataclysm Classic: Was It Any Good Though? 

Goes from a spell not worth the gcd to your main big ability

Thrall cheats. Garrosh was handing him his bunghole until Thrall used the elements to cheat and then they abandoned him because they saw what a wussy he was. Even the Doomhammer decided to find a better wielder because of the wussiness of Thrall. Even Aggra be like “I shoulda picked Alpha Chad Garrosh instead of Beta Cuck Thrall” 😂

@@420OngBak Gul’dan CHEATS!

@@phantom0456nah wrong

Some great set bonuses on some of them for the different specs, but visually I don't really care for any of them. Good thing this was the expansion for transmog. XD

Great expansion for them; every spec is a blast to play. =)

"Maybe thats more of a testament to Catas overall class balance" ^This. There are a few outliers but the balance was solid in 4.3.

Its still very viable and respectable, solid B+ spec with some of the best sustained cleave in the game.

Except for a few outliers, the balance for this expansion was pretty tight by 4.3. In Cata your skill matters more than anything else. It's not that Enhance is bad, just that other things are a bit busted. For instance, your AoE is REALLY good this expansion but things like the most broken version of Combustion for Fire Mages exists. Your damage is fine but Arms had an insane blow up and was dominant for the whole expansion. Unless your guild is super sweaty and insists on optimal comps you can just play good and down bosses. Your attendance, knowing mechanics, and optimizing your rotation will matter more to your guild than that bit of damage from picking the optimal spec. IMO: I think the fix if they don't want to increase damage is: 1) allow them to provide the 3% dmg buff that only Arcane, Ret, and BM Hunters provide. The Mages want to go Fire this xpac and the Hunters do far more damage on SV. Ret is the only real choice for this, and considering it brings CDs that prevents wipes in an expansion where b rez is now limited AND does more damage than Enhance it's not losing it's spot with this change. It just makes Enhance a better option. 2) They passively provide the 10% SP buff that is only covered by Ele and Demo Warlocks. There is a lesser version that gives 6% (Mages and Affliction provides) but that extra 4% is pretty valuable for a comp considering it also buffs the heals. Only having two SPECS cover this (not classes that could cover multiple specs) isn't enough since their goal was to make comps easier to put together for 10s. Furthermore, both Ele and Destro are very strong and there are other good reasons to take one, so we are not challenging their spot, again, just making Enhance a better option.

I mained elemental for all of Wrath and I always did well and stayed competitive, even tho Ele was never very highly regarded. Don't let a preview or a tier list dictate what you do (unless you're actually seeing really bad results)

Or does nature damage instead. Something to make it viable. I’m shocked they left it that way. I PvE so I’m curious to know if it’s commonly chosen in PvP?

It's not based on what the video says ​@@johnathanbowers5433

@@johnathanbowers5433 Not chosen in pvp either, far too small area and far too long cast time for it to be worth it

@@johnathanbowers5433 , if you are having to guard a point it can be very useful to prevent people from capping. Other than that... not really.

Or easiest and ”least broken” change: Have it scale with Fulmination as Earth shock does

This is a fantastic suggestion.

Its so weird seeing people hyped for an update that happened 10+ years ago

You fr? I didn't see that

Or he just doesnt proof read his videos

16:50 yes

By default you can only remove curses, but for one talent point you can remove magic effects as well (must have for PvP). Seems like a nerf but it doesn't get a CD until MoP so very powerful.

@@naejimba Thanks, always nice when you get exactly the answer you were looking for.

Just don’t level up as elemental lol

Just google

@@afscrew123 , did and can't find it.

If u actually wanna progress heroics in a pretty good pace then id recommend just go elemental or go rdruid or disc together with ur hpala. Rshaman is giga rough in Hard 10mans especially early on, spiritlink is a poop CD outside of chogall mage cheese and maybe alakir p2, everyone needs to be stacked for ur healing rain etc. Ur gonna struggle super hard with mana until you get 4set bonus, tsunami card and fall of mortality trinket from chogall. U wont have time In 10mans usually to regen mana with lightning Bolt, because you dont heal anything while you cast LB. Compared to other classes mana regen. Theyre more fit for 25man. But if u rly rly want u can still make it work. Its just not "optimal" thats all.

That's interesting because in my 10-man team we also ran Resto Shaman (me) and Holy Paladin. It seemed to work out great for us; it felt like great coverage and we were able to clear all the Heroic modes. But I understand YMMV. I'm interested to dig into Cata and see what's in store.

That's a really cool idea, I'm just worried that it still won't be powerful enough. As it is during 4.3, three conditions have to be met: 1) Six or more mobs, 2) That will live for the full 10 sec., 3) and won't move during that time. Instant cast helps a ton, but it still needs a bit more damage IMO considering how niche it is. I think we can justify boosting the output via a glyph, and I think the best thing to do is to bake in the glyph of Lightning Shield into the Fulmination talent to free up space (everyone has to take it and it limits options for Ele). Now as a glyph we can remove the knockdown effect meaning it isn't viable in PvP and can be balanced for PvE, meaning we can up the damage to the point where at 2 or more targets you want to spend Fulmination charges on Earthquake.

Ur means old

Yeah ele is not great at massive aoe, theyre goated at 3-5 targets

yes

Sure, your burst isn't as scary and you lose dmg reduction when under CC effects, but the overall increase in health and the slowing of damage negates that a touch. In addition, you can cast while moving, your Thunderstorm has a slow attached to it, ghost wolf can be used indoors, and the magical damage reduction from the talent elemental warding has been doubled for the same points. Adding to this the fact that while Ele might not start out as dominant in Cata PvP as in Wrath at the beginning, they fixed the scaling issues so it's not like it will fall off as the expansion goes on. So it's not all bad.

@@420OngBak no.... no its not.... and even if we use your definition, what a fucking waste as its ONLY usable when stacked. have fun running to the tank on nef to drop totem and only distribute health between you 2 and then you die to the breath.

@@420OngBak its not an external thats like calling commanding shout for the health bonus an external. you stupid fuck lmao

​@@420OngBakhes right tho, externals are something you put on the tank, thats what people always have been calling it. Spirit link is more akin to a raid cd (and imo the weakest one by far)

Orc or troll.

Do not choose your race because stats , its a bêta move . Chose the one you like , as a true chad

@@kalejarmar3187 No

@@amosmonk expected. cuck .

@@kalejarmar3187no

Bliz hates shamans. Period.

@@420OngBak i was talking about pvp but point taken.

last now cuz of you

LOL that's what I said too 🤔