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The two politicians squared off on Breakfast to debate the ongoing protests against the Government’s policies related to co-governance and Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
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Комментарии : 1,9 тыс.   
@Paul_Rich
@Paul_Rich 9 месяцев назад
5:17 When a woman has to resort to attacking a man's gender and age, you know she's already lost the debate.
@jwaugh319
@jwaugh319 9 месяцев назад
Facts. But, then again, victimhood has always served women well throughout history due to their 'marginalized' hurt feelings. Not to say that feelings don't matter. But the truth is, facts dictate feelings, and feelings do not dictate facts. Thankfully, we are approaching a time wherein truth and common sense prevails over politicized hurt feelings. This is why men built society, and it is run by men with a backbone, and will prosper by men with backbones and integrity. I'm not for politics, I'm for common sense. Maori are quick to cry racism when it benefits them, but to receive something that you would not receive if you were not Maori (like every other nationality within New Zealand) is in fact, in itself, racist.
@peasant5612
@peasant5612 9 месяцев назад
Yip exactly
@cassandragaisford2777
@cassandragaisford2777 9 месяцев назад
shocking to call him ‘uncle’ … childish
@mattheweden-pc5pk
@mattheweden-pc5pk 9 месяцев назад
She’s not the brightest bulb
@happypipi5363
@happypipi5363 9 месяцев назад
Agree. Debbie called Shane uncle, but she's no spring chicken herself.
@JT-oo7sd
@JT-oo7sd 9 месяцев назад
Surely the interviewer should take a neutral stance.
@aaronlikescoffee
@aaronlikescoffee 9 месяцев назад
Not in NZ 😅
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 9 месяцев назад
at TVNZ? haha good luck with that. Honestly all nz media should be neutral.
@mr2981
@mr2981 9 месяцев назад
Ha, you funny.
@brucefale6132
@brucefale6132 9 месяцев назад
@@aaronlikescoffee name a country that does
@annatetiad.4991
@annatetiad.4991 9 месяцев назад
she is a paid shill - just like Jack Tame and Rebecca Wright. They are rxtreme left biased
@haweavivian48
@haweavivian48 9 месяцев назад
Amazing that TV1 haven't turned the comments off. They don't usually like public opinion.
@truthprevails5056
@truthprevails5056 9 месяцев назад
....wait for it... 😂
@theoriginaltoadnz
@theoriginaltoadnz 9 месяцев назад
Very true, was surprised to see this.
@andosoup98
@andosoup98 9 месяцев назад
was just thinking the same thing, clearly thier viewers taking a different approach than their staff, lol
@terri-annejoyce2164
@terri-annejoyce2164 9 месяцев назад
Yeah thats true'
@alanchapman2782
@alanchapman2782 9 месяцев назад
Stuff ( the worst)and other media outlets in NZ have banded together and shut off any public comments on nearly every issue. It is good to see comments available for a change.
@taliaware1110
@taliaware1110 9 месяцев назад
Shane jones even had offensive things said about him towards his own whakapapa and he still stayed calm...respect bro
@sox7784
@sox7784 9 месяцев назад
Yep agree, he’s a politician and an intellectual which she isn’t
@rickymarino1208
@rickymarino1208 9 месяцев назад
wat was said about whakapapa
@taliaware1110
@taliaware1110 9 месяцев назад
@@rickymarino1208 4.40
@jac3271
@jac3271 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely it’s theatre. And of course the race card is played, and the DEI ideology of victimhood raises its ugly head. Debby talks about “our people” - so they think in lockstep? She resorts to identity politics…
@TomoNahi
@TomoNahi 3 месяца назад
@@sox7784 torewai koe shane ukui tiko
@zerotree1310
@zerotree1310 9 месяцев назад
Is Debbie's best response to call Shane an old sexist bully and then accuse him of making it personal? disgraceful conduct.
@Lazydaisy646
@Lazydaisy646 9 месяцев назад
One rule for you , different for me
@valeriehughes1008
@valeriehughes1008 9 месяцев назад
At one point she called him "just an Uncle"... this woman is mostly of Dalmatian blood with very little Maori in her bloodline yet she decks herself out and mokos her face and claims she is more Maori than the rest and must be listened to.... she is disrespectful to Maori in the way she acts and the game of theatre she plays and the constant calling Maori victims when the vast majority of us do not think of ourselves in this way... she is an embarrassment to all Maori
@geoffstokes
@geoffstokes 9 месяцев назад
That's par for the course for her political types
@ryanparker8773
@ryanparker8773 9 месяцев назад
This is what she has been told to say, she knows the media will back her up.
@peterlattimore6013
@peterlattimore6013 9 месяцев назад
@@valeriehughes1008 Thank you... Debbie seems to act the part but does not follow through physically.
@danfrost3043
@danfrost3043 9 месяцев назад
I'm confused! As a White New Zealander what to Maori not get that I get? What are they not entitled to that I'm entitled to? What rights to they not have that I have? Everyone is struggling, what about all the other cultures in New Zealand, you don't see them constantly whining, protesting, causing disruption and screaming Racism at every turn. They need to get over themselves.
@peterlattimore6013
@peterlattimore6013 9 месяцев назад
A former neighbour who was a Maori from the wrong side of the railroad tracks, said there are some Maori who walk forwards while looking backward. There are a select few who have a mindset of victimhood and it affects their state of mind to the extent they'll never be happy, refusing to acknowledge that in the past 150 od years, their lifestyles have improved tenfold. To summarise, there are Maori who are manic depressive no matter how much the government gives them for free...
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
On paper the rights are the same I agree. However the difference is how some are treated or disregarded is more the case.
@joycooper6343
@joycooper6343 9 месяцев назад
@@peterlattimore6013 As a retiree I believe life is what you make it irrelevant of race. No one is denied an education. Seems the biggest moaners are those that expect it all minus the hard graft that most put in to achieve . Protest Monday morning , rush hour traffic for those going off to work Question : are these protestors all unemployed ? At least the ground swell protest endeavored to cause least disruption to the public as possible .
@Lazydaisy646
@Lazydaisy646 9 месяцев назад
My part Maori nephew gets a lot of advantages his Pakeha mother is not entitled to. He's got funding to go to a private school simply because his father is Maori. I dont begrudge it to him , but thats a fact
@dakotak51
@dakotak51 9 месяцев назад
Look up perpetual leasing lol
@dreinhard52
@dreinhard52 9 месяцев назад
Debbie just proved Shanes point , straight into name calling and victim hood !
@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700
@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700 9 месяцев назад
No, Shane just proved he will say what ignorant people want to hear.
@rapscity2k442
@rapscity2k442 9 месяцев назад
@@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700 that's what Debbie is doing. Shane has the reo and so do all his tamariki and mokopuna. He can say what he said because he is also Maori. I'm Maori too, and I rep he whakaputanga hard, the real history of my tupuna. She does not speak for all of us. My tupuna wern't victims, yet under her and Rawiri's leadership, that's where we are headed. My tupuna were travelling the world before 1810, we make it seem like our relationship with the crown started in 1840. I know my history. I am not ignorant. It is her. It is you.
@speeddemon9555
@speeddemon9555 9 месяцев назад
@@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700 he told the truth and apparently the truth hurts you lot !!
@k9wirihana172
@k9wirihana172 9 месяцев назад
Yeah nah
@autumnedwards45
@autumnedwards45 9 месяцев назад
​@@rapscity2k442Sounds like ur tupuna were Kupapa Maori😂😂😂
@ll-rb7or
@ll-rb7or 9 месяцев назад
That lady must have blinked 5 thousand times 😂
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
It's a common tell of liars.
@janec1242
@janec1242 9 месяцев назад
in her captilist false fluttering eyelashes...
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Seriously your making fun of a disability - classy
@jackiebiggs7071
@jackiebiggs7071 9 месяцев назад
​​@@2wahineandadog it's the great big false eyelashes shes adopted wearing.
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
@2wahineandadog blinking isn't a disability lol.
@jonathanbennett1542
@jonathanbennett1542 9 месяцев назад
Hold the line Shane you doing a great job , as a New Zealander with Maori roots I’m with you on this , the media and the lefties will kick up a stink but our country is on the line , it’s crazy how a few radicals hold the country to ransom
@Stephen-bq4nq
@Stephen-bq4nq 9 месяцев назад
Yeah our countries on the line that's why they got rid of the fair pay act which will affect the poorest workers. They're bringing back the ability for landlords to kick people out with 90 days notice with no reason given. Poor people are in for hell under this foul government
@evannelson4479
@evannelson4479 9 месяцев назад
Well said sir, totally agree.
@MartinAndrews-y5u
@MartinAndrews-y5u 9 месяцев назад
well done shane ,see you in the northland club
@Chrizzy60
@Chrizzy60 9 месяцев назад
Us too. Totally sick of the Maori party, their constant whining, constant hand outs, constant cries of victim hood, and constant racist comments while they accuse others of the same.
@Harbour-s9w
@Harbour-s9w 9 месяцев назад
​@@Chrizzy60 so far all i see is shane fans in here been racist, i dont claim to be a victim, it gave me the skills to survive. Im not sure about handouts because i never got any.....but the whlle being ignorant to the results of colonisation and oppresion, thats why the upper class are the upper class and all my people are either fucked with addictions, poverty, and a low perforning mindset and the other bunch who look down on us koz theyre tryna be like the upper class.....its jist a sad state of affairs for everyone.
@AlanFitness-t3n
@AlanFitness-t3n 9 месяцев назад
Shane Jones totally outplayed Debbie & that so called journalist.
@makamak4992
@makamak4992 9 месяцев назад
So politics is a game, that makes sense
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 9 месяцев назад
sure did and she sure wasnt happy about that. hahaha
@michaelmarama-de4gx
@michaelmarama-de4gx 9 месяцев назад
That journalist is a cutie pie, I'll dig her anyday😂
@sebastianharker4892
@sebastianharker4892 9 месяцев назад
A definite, Game, Set and Match to Shane. 🥉 🏆
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 9 месяцев назад
@@sebastianharker4892 and without even trying.
@joachimpetersen2301
@joachimpetersen2301 9 месяцев назад
I'm Maori and I am not offended by this governments plans. In fact I agree with most of what this government plan on doing. Don't act as though you speak for me Debbie with your 2.5% vote which assuming only Maori voted for, would account for only 14% of Maori!
@Gumpmachine1
@Gumpmachine1 9 месяцев назад
It’s a classic tactic to tell any particular group they’re oppressed and only you can help them. The Maori Party can only exist if they consistently convince other Maori how poorly they’re treated
@mashelalnaar
@mashelalnaar 9 месяцев назад
I'm impressed Mike King got $6m annually from now on by incoming govt for mental health. Labour gave him absolutely nothing.
@andybrrr5944
@andybrrr5944 9 месяцев назад
Based
@CHCHNZ461
@CHCHNZ461 9 месяцев назад
Such a good point and needs to be highlighted more.
@ronaldwarren1267
@ronaldwarren1267 9 месяцев назад
Man hard case buggers aren't they her and Rawiri halfwiti b s
@eileenmcparland2158
@eileenmcparland2158 9 месяцев назад
I'm Irish and the two pistols symbol belongs to my culture. It is not modern Maori art, as Debbie has said. In any culture it is a symbol of violence.
@benjaminaulakh4734
@benjaminaulakh4734 9 месяцев назад
Guns were used to forcibly take land from Màori, so I'd say if they want to use the symbolism they can. Plus gun symbols are no more Irish than any other culture.
@96Caleb96
@96Caleb96 9 месяцев назад
​@@benjaminaulakh4734Nope, they were given to protect their land from other tribes.
@benjaminaulakh4734
@benjaminaulakh4734 9 месяцев назад
@@96Caleb96 Yeah good one.
@yingle6027
@yingle6027 9 месяцев назад
@@benjaminaulakh4734 As soon as Maori got guns they used them on other Maori and took their land. Look up the Musket wars -20,000 Maori dead at the hands of other Maori.
@benjaminaulakh4734
@benjaminaulakh4734 9 месяцев назад
@@yingle6027 Have a look at your statement and tell me what's wrong with it.
@pietdebeer7972
@pietdebeer7972 9 месяцев назад
Could the presenter try to hide her bias a bit better?
@annatetiad.4991
@annatetiad.4991 9 месяцев назад
thats what the journalist fund has paid for. The bias.
@C00kieMonsta13
@C00kieMonsta13 9 месяцев назад
She was probably too scared to piss the Māori lady off
@margueritemccartney3607
@margueritemccartney3607 9 месяцев назад
Nope. She’s totally biased all the time. Can’t help herself.
@Sailorsega
@Sailorsega 9 месяцев назад
The presenters have never hidden their biases.
@mikeodonnell5487
@mikeodonnell5487 9 месяцев назад
she wont be in a job much longer!@
@Fraaank41
@Fraaank41 9 месяцев назад
Within 5 seconds and the mention of democracy, Debbie is rolling her eyes. Pathetic.
@alicerose9140
@alicerose9140 9 месяцев назад
It is pathetic that Shane Jones thinks democracy means getting to vote only once every 3-4 years.
@Fraaank41
@Fraaank41 9 месяцев назад
​@alicerose9140 , what would you prefer? 5 years, 10 years or every single year?
@rapscity2k442
@rapscity2k442 9 месяцев назад
@@alicerose9140 😆 if the tables were turned and maori party were in, all of a sudden they would be enforcing the election result. She picked at the fact that their vote percentage wasnt indicitave of the population. While they only got 3%. Im maori, and this party is embarassing. My tupuna were not crying victim like our current 'leaders'
@patriciakimber4312
@patriciakimber4312 9 месяцев назад
Isn’t she
@alicerose9140
@alicerose9140 9 месяцев назад
@@Fraaank41 Democracy means 'rule by the people' not inflexible dominance by one or two parties & ignoring the needs of the rest of the population. Ongoing accountability to ensure honouring election claims, responding to demonstrations of public opinion & representation of those without power would be a start.
@mark561
@mark561 9 месяцев назад
"We didn't get our way & can't accept a majority of the country disagree, so we'll hold everyone to ransom until we get what we want" - democracy in action....
@chrisbright8976
@chrisbright8976 9 месяцев назад
protesting is a democracy right... being part of a minority didn't stop the COVID clowns from protesting ..
@AdvocateOfJamaica
@AdvocateOfJamaica 9 месяцев назад
Pretty much...
@Lazydaisy646
@Lazydaisy646 9 месяцев назад
I think that's what Winston did too
@mark561
@mark561 9 месяцев назад
@@Lazydaisy646 I didn't vote for him 😣
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
@sillysewer lol how?
@robertgrant4609
@robertgrant4609 9 месяцев назад
Shane Jones makes a good point about victimhood not being a good kaupapa to base a political movement on. Then immeadiately out comes the im a women and your victimising me response. . . Very telling. . . Shane Jones is the most commonsense politician ive heard. A real gem, glad he is in government.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 9 месяцев назад
yes and she did not like that at all haha
@krisp4889
@krisp4889 9 месяцев назад
Reminds me of our former PM, it was all because She was a She__ nothing to do with her jack booted style, Dan Andrews (a man) got exactly the same treatment in Aussie__ is he transgender and I didn't know?
@MG-fr3tn
@MG-fr3tn 3 месяца назад
He needs to get with science.
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
Look how they care more about words on public buildings then they do about Maori children abused to death like baby Ru. Where are the protests for them?
@erina4586
@erina4586 9 месяцев назад
STOP! The Abortions ( Murder) of the Innocent Babies! The govt system has failed.
@Mr_Riffman08
@Mr_Riffman08 9 месяцев назад
Where are the protests for Pakeha children whom are being sold as sex slaves in the south island by their own parents...your generalizing one situation as if it were an on going on in everyday Maori life..they struggle so badly living in a Whiteman colonial world as it is without having the rest of their livelihoods taken..Fact Is this is an act of racial superiority dressed as democracy
@allantakiari1822
@allantakiari1822 9 месяцев назад
​@Riffman08-dz6pv You are talking about that Cult? That's not the same as with Baby Ru. ffs. Our Children no matter what Nationally they are need to be Protected..
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
@allantakiari1822 and they all jailed for it. Something that's yet to happen for killers of baby Ru, who still walk free.
@grantadamson3478
@grantadamson3478 9 месяцев назад
@@Mr_Riffman08 Lots of emotive rhetoric which comes across as very confrontational and aggressive. Talk to us with facts and you might be listened to.
@geefreek
@geefreek 9 месяцев назад
Save some victim cards for the rest of us. she pulled the woman and Māori card. Should be a limit of 1 per customer
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Why? you clealy prefer to play the "bully" card
@geefreek
@geefreek 9 месяцев назад
@@2wahineandadog your gonna have to explain to me how I’m being a bully?
@krisp4889
@krisp4889 9 месяцев назад
@@2wahineandadog No that's threats of an angry mob coming to a town near you__ a threat constantly being repeated lately__ bullying is a Maori Gang shutting down a City/town for a funeral or through just violent behavior__ it's "The Maori Way" always worse under Labour.
@janbrown9195
@janbrown9195 9 месяцев назад
😂😂😂
@Timetofly8888
@Timetofly8888 9 месяцев назад
Lol !!! YOU, Sir win the internet today.
@righttobloodydissent
@righttobloodydissent 9 месяцев назад
Why does she keep rolling her eyes like that? Very immature behaviour on Debbie's part.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Facial movements is part of Tikanga - try watching a haka where no one pokes out a tongue or frowns or raises their eyebrows...stoicism and poker face are for other cultures. The only one better at eye roller is Chloe whatsherface from the greens
@The1234joe4321
@The1234joe4321 9 месяцев назад
Bro what TF is up with that thing on old mate debbos face 🤡🤡🤣. She got too close to the iron stove plate one night on the double browns?😅
@cassandragaisford2777
@cassandragaisford2777 9 месяцев назад
maybe its the false eyelashes playing up
@arthursnodgrass4685
@arthursnodgrass4685 9 месяцев назад
Thank you Shane Jones. This is why you received my party vote,
@aaronlikescoffee
@aaronlikescoffee 9 месяцев назад
Mine too
@aquamarine_nz2296
@aquamarine_nz2296 9 месяцев назад
Isn't it amazing that she makes the assumption that no Maori voted for this government or for NZ First. Wow, she thinks she represents all Maori. Such arrogance.
@sox7784
@sox7784 9 месяцев назад
She doesn’t represent all Māori, most Māori want New Zealand 🇳🇿 back to what it was a safe country where gangs aren’t running our towns shops don’t get robbed were we are not judged by the colour of our skin threw the action of others shown on TV far to regularly . NZF ❤❤❤
@warrenheslip692
@warrenheslip692 9 месяцев назад
I am really warming to Shane Jones. The moari party look to me like woke liberals.
@elshelbyandzue-davies8341
@elshelbyandzue-davies8341 9 месяцев назад
What u talkn about? I never voted for this govt National, act or NZ first. They still want to scrap Maori from Aotearoa.
@sebastianharker4892
@sebastianharker4892 9 месяцев назад
Shane Jones has really impressed me. An absolute gem of an intelligent man. Glad I gave New Zealand First my vote. Shame another blatantly bias performance, from another leftie Politically Correct TVNZ presenter.
@janbrown9195
@janbrown9195 9 месяцев назад
Absolutely agree 💯
@valeriehughes1008
@valeriehughes1008 9 месяцев назад
Totally agree... something has to be done if we are ever to get any true journalism... at the moment we get opinionism by someone masquerading as a journalist!
@sox7784
@sox7784 9 месяцев назад
He’s not shy to fight against TMP neither is Winnie that’s why I voted NZF
@jpinnz2803
@jpinnz2803 9 месяцев назад
A 'male standing over and bullying Debbie' - WTF???? As soon as she said that she lost this debate.
@byronbarker936
@byronbarker936 9 месяцев назад
Exactly right
@robbiedavis6643
@robbiedavis6643 9 месяцев назад
It depends on how you looked at it. You obviously don't like her so your mind wS made up
@harryflashman4542
@harryflashman4542 9 месяцев назад
@@robbiedavis6643 She hasn't the intellect to argue the points so she attacks the person. I have noticed that about the Maori Party leadership, they cannot discuss policy.
@robbiedavis6643
@robbiedavis6643 9 месяцев назад
@@harryflashman4542 wipe your mouth mate
@harryflashman4542
@harryflashman4542 9 месяцев назад
@@robbiedavis6643 thankyou for helping me make my point.
@AdvocateOfJamaica
@AdvocateOfJamaica 9 месяцев назад
I must have missed it: what did Shane say that was misogynistic? Isn't calling him an "old dinasour" ageist?
@gorillaSportsShow
@gorillaSportsShow 9 месяцев назад
Disagreeing with someone is now considered offensive.
@garbonzo1947
@garbonzo1947 9 месяцев назад
The whole lot of the "breakfast" crew should be sacked. That 100 million bribe (by labour) sure worked.
@sox7784
@sox7784 9 месяцев назад
Yep bought a payed for by labour , changes can’t come soon enough
@MG-fr3tn
@MG-fr3tn 3 месяца назад
This is more due to governments being slow about technology and free loaders.
@GrantasaurusRex
@GrantasaurusRex 9 месяцев назад
Need an unbiased interviewer.... not even trying hide it.
@rotofotonz5150
@rotofotonz5150 9 месяцев назад
Nice to see the comments open maybe TVNZ will start listening to there viewers
@truthprevails5056
@truthprevails5056 9 месяцев назад
My thoughts too! They so often close comments to thwart debate. Lets see how long they keep them open here...!
@paperclip612
@paperclip612 9 месяцев назад
​@@truthprevails5056 Absolutely agree!
@theoriginaltoadnz
@theoriginaltoadnz 9 месяцев назад
So true!
@chrisallum9044
@chrisallum9044 9 месяцев назад
lol as if
@andosoup98
@andosoup98 9 месяцев назад
i can only think its a mistake
@snakes331
@snakes331 9 месяцев назад
I remember the days when maori were funny. Bring back Billy T.
@The1234joe4321
@The1234joe4321 9 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂 this comment. Old mate debbie - REKT
@gavinivers8941
@gavinivers8941 9 месяцев назад
Billy T use to get death threats from Maori back in the day.
@evannelson4479
@evannelson4479 9 месяцев назад
Amen!
@moniquebode1655
@moniquebode1655 9 месяцев назад
Yea Billy was great and light hearted
@daveyboots79
@daveyboots79 9 месяцев назад
So you prefer an 80s caricature of a 'Māori slacker' over a Māori politician.... makes sense aye
@chong-laichan3190
@chong-laichan3190 9 месяцев назад
I genuinely don't think Shane is misogynist simply because he disagrees with a woman. I don't know the man personally, and so can't say for sure if he is misogynist or not. All I can say is, judging from what he said here, his argument isn't built up on misogynist ideas.
@jame2433
@jame2433 9 месяцев назад
The patronising way he calls out her “victimhood” is why she called him misogynistic.
@KIWINATION
@KIWINATION 9 месяцев назад
You are right, whether or not there is a male OR female he is arguing against, he would have said the same words. So misogyny is a word not suited as a fair response. However, her response to call misogyny is a fair trade for his attitude toward Maori representation in Government. And as he crosses her boundary of disrespect, so too does she trade in kind. Overall though, I do believe she could have held back on the use of the word misogyny, and just maintained her dinosaur remark. That way, she'd have only made enemies with like-minded dinosaurs. And now she's just potentially turned off all men from supporting the cause that she's backing.
@rapscity2k442
@rapscity2k442 9 месяцев назад
​@@jame2433and it should have been patronizing. Because he was speaking to her crying victim over maoridom not gender issues, and as a well versed maori himself, he has that right. Shane Jones is a proud maori. He speaks the reo, his kids speak the reo, his grandkids all speak the reo. His knowledge of the history of te tai tokerau is so deep, id argue he knew more about his tupuna and their deeds then she does of her tupuna and their deeds. Some of us maori dont buy this victim crap, and hes clearly one of them. Doesnt mean hes a misogynist.
@tamulawrence8865
@tamulawrence8865 9 месяцев назад
Shane is muzzled by his party and won't rock the boat
@jame2433
@jame2433 9 месяцев назад
@@rapscity2k442 I see what you’re saying but I’m unsure how you can look at what this govt is doing and think they want better outcomes for Māori. I also don’t think they are being victims, I just see people standing up against policy that doesn’t help improve outcomes for Māori. Māori are over represented in many areas and I believe we should continue to work towards improving that. That’s what I see them trying to advocate for I also don’t think she’s calling him a misogynist based on this single interaction.
@harmonyadams7577
@harmonyadams7577 9 месяцев назад
Dear Breakfast and Maori Party, where are the protests for baby Ru. Why isn't there more coverage on this story. You're always holding oranga tamariki to account. Why is the silence surrounding this baby's murder allowed to continue? Like so many others before him?
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
They don't care about children. Only power and money.
@michealwalford2905
@michealwalford2905 9 месяцев назад
Well said sir' And respect for all victims of crime..not just historical.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Why not direct this to Shane Jones and NZ First - your complaints are only at Te Pati Maori - you can't disparage TPM and then look to them to fix things in the same sentence....
@worknehfollow6688
@worknehfollow6688 9 месяцев назад
Can you please employee neutral reporters? My tax money is wasted.
@DevonR564
@DevonR564 9 месяцев назад
Good work Shane you really got to her considering the fact she had to resort to personal insults.
@krisp4889
@krisp4889 9 месяцев назад
Debbie's Party won just 2.6% of the vote, where does SHE get the right to speak for the other 17.4% of Maori?? she claims to represent.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Do you have any evidence that she doesn't represent more than the 2.6%?
@krisp4889
@krisp4889 9 месяцев назад
@@2wahineandadog Well they didn't vote for her did they!! Can you prove she has more support? With out the race based Maori seats she wouldn't have a job__ time they went.
@hemiedwards217
@hemiedwards217 9 месяцев назад
you obviously don't know how the Maori seats work lol
@krisp4889
@krisp4889 9 месяцев назад
@@hemiedwards217Really they are race based, only Maori can vote for the candidates, did I miss anything and given her parties poor party vote she would be unemployed.
@paperclip612
@paperclip612 9 месяцев назад
​@@krisp4889 Wasn't the abolition of special Maori seats in Parliament a condition of MMP?
@jimmyjames1807
@jimmyjames1807 9 месяцев назад
well you can see what percentage of the population doesn't have have a job
@Jillian-qq1df
@Jillian-qq1df 9 месяцев назад
Shane is well spoken, I didn't hear any bullying. I don't think the reporter is impartial. I always called it NZTA.
@bert454
@bert454 9 месяцев назад
Great. Then you won't mind if others continue to call it Waka Kotahi
@mattheweden-pc5pk
@mattheweden-pc5pk 9 месяцев назад
Waka is Māori for boat is not, and the name has gone back to English @@bert454
@rowancruickshank2358
@rowancruickshank2358 9 месяцев назад
Good level thinking Shane , also it’s the largest number of Māori in cabinet, the ppl have voted and are rejecting the woke victim narrative being pumped globally Good work Shane
@normankeoghan5298
@normankeoghan5298 9 месяцев назад
1 News with comments open ,that’s a win for NZ First right there. Well done to Shane on his response to these two Woke Ideologists. Bringing that response into a political debate leaves the Maori party looking very weak to say the least. That’s ok they are putting there best speaker forward, How to shame your constituents in one easy lesson. To the reporter, maybe it’s time to throw in the towel.
@krisp4889
@krisp4889 9 месяцев назад
Media is terrified they will be defunded and actually have to present actual content and not just parrot Government Provided propaganda__ been a few "retirements lately" of some of the worst hacks .
@EvilVillianInc
@EvilVillianInc 9 месяцев назад
Hahaha "Woke". How influential the US culture war was on sleepy Nieuw Zeelanders is ridiculous. It must be because they left their own culture in the northern hemisphere. They had to substitute it with brainless US political rhetoric and slurs.
@elizabethsav8474
@elizabethsav8474 9 месяцев назад
And pick yr paru towel up on the way out US, tRump made that up, US 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@koro287
@koro287 9 месяцев назад
2 replies missing, back paddock anna! that comment will disappear too.
@gavinivers8941
@gavinivers8941 9 месяцев назад
If 20% are up set about what the new Government is about, the 80% are happy with the new Government.
@jame2433
@jame2433 9 месяцев назад
Mate the new govt got 53% of the vote…. Approx half of New Zealand doesn’t agree with the new govt direction on many issues
@korocam9137
@korocam9137 9 месяцев назад
Just over 10 likes is not 80% support 😂
@EvilVillianInc
@EvilVillianInc 9 месяцев назад
About 71.47% of the adult population voted in this election. About 37.8% of the total adult population voted for the new government. 29.39% of the total population. Hardly 80% now is it. Democracy isn't a free ride to dominate minority groups. It's supposed to protect us all.
@jasonpoihegatama1347
@jasonpoihegatama1347 9 месяцев назад
Bully and stand over her what a joke Lol
@MurrayLeckie
@MurrayLeckie 9 месяцев назад
35% of the coalition Government cabinet are Maori . Enough said !!!!
@peasant5612
@peasant5612 9 месяцев назад
And she says the government didn't get the Maori mandate , however her party's 3.08% is hardly overwhelming.
@michaellee9975
@michaellee9975 9 месяцев назад
Many of those 35# are plastic Māori.
@nicow6808
@nicow6808 9 месяцев назад
​@michaellee9975 so Maoris only have one allowable point of view? The rest are no true maoriman?
@EvilVillianInc
@EvilVillianInc 9 месяцев назад
@@nicow6808 *Māori
@Chrizzy60
@Chrizzy60 9 месяцев назад
@@peasant5612 One wonders if she did maths. Not sure where she thinks her mandate comes in.
@kjr2868
@kjr2868 9 месяцев назад
20% of the NZ Population (or 100% of Maori - as Debbie is claiming) are not being represented at this protest. Shane definitely had a fairer argument!
@dragonrings14
@dragonrings14 9 месяцев назад
Maori only make up 17% of the population anyhow and that is only if you include ANYONE with any Maori connection. If you take those who solely identify as Maori then it is 8%.
@djhemirukahemisphere8893
@djhemirukahemisphere8893 9 месяцев назад
We can't all drop tools and protest. It's a tragedy that Maori all over the nation take to the streets today to combat issues that concern us
@peterlattimore6013
@peterlattimore6013 9 месяцев назад
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893 what exactly are they protesting over? From an outsiders view point, they seem to be upset their gravy train has stopped and are upset. It appears they want benefits without the responsibility.
@chrissolutions
@chrissolutions 9 месяцев назад
Marxists always claims to be speaking for an identity group. BLM does this to blacks in the USA and the Maori Marxists are using the same leftist tactics
@kjr2868
@kjr2868 9 месяцев назад
@@peterlattimore6013 I like Shane Jones's answer best, 'maintaining the victimization of Maori??'
@nzkid2599
@nzkid2599 9 месяцев назад
As a Māori I do not feel disadvantaged at all by this new government. I am not a victim and refuse to play the victim card
@slooob23
@slooob23 9 месяцев назад
There's no future in victimhood, I'm pakeha and have had some really hard times, we just got to keep going no matter what. Kia kaha bro, we can all move forward together if we want to.
@sox7784
@sox7784 9 месяцев назад
There’s money in play ing the victim Cuzzy that’s why she’s jumping up and down
@nzkid2599
@nzkid2599 9 месяцев назад
@@sox7784 she’s a Karen
@fxx4008
@fxx4008 9 месяцев назад
I’m a GenX Maori who has a pakeha and Maori parent. If you learn our history and colonisation of indigenous peoples your eyes and mind will be open to understanding why we are asserting ourselves to this govt. A govt who prefer we are not seen or heard. This govt is anti Maori and they twist words and our agenda to be negative. I remember my mumma who didn’t learn her language as her parents stopped speaking it to her to protect her from being hit from the teacher if she spoke te reo. My mumma lost a part of her that affected her loving herself. That was a time of conditioning. We no longer accept the narrative these racist try to spin.
@nzkid2599
@nzkid2599 9 месяцев назад
@@fxx4008 alright keep your hair on!
@00287eeturner
@00287eeturner 9 месяцев назад
Way too go Shane, see when she starts to lose the argument she blames him for picking on woman lol, what a joke.
@sox7784
@sox7784 9 месяцев назад
👍
@richardandmichellelifeadve3473
@richardandmichellelifeadve3473 9 месяцев назад
Im with Shane 😊
@billdennis3681
@billdennis3681 9 месяцев назад
Sorry what do Maori not get in New Zealand that I get as a New Zealander. Am I missing something hear.
@truthprevails5056
@truthprevails5056 9 месяцев назад
More....
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Attacks because of their race
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
@2wahineandadog lol no it's the pakeha that get those. They aren't even allowed their own identity, they're just crushed into the "pakeha" box.
@hariseldon3786
@hariseldon3786 9 месяцев назад
Debbie - didn't see Shane bullying you, didn't see Shane "standing over" you... how about you go shorter on the rhetoric and hyperbole (very 'thespian' as Shane says) and go long on facts and evidence...
@janbrown9195
@janbrown9195 9 месяцев назад
💯
@ZaneLike
@ZaneLike 9 месяцев назад
Debbie learnt well from her militant white SJW tutors at University, which by the way she was held back from doing because she's Maori
@LJFN213
@LJFN213 9 месяцев назад
Ironic that “bully and stand over” seems to be the intention of the protest. Shane Jones: “She trades on victimhood” Debbie in rebuttal: Plays victim of the patriarchy.
@MartinAndrews-y5u
@MartinAndrews-y5u 9 месяцев назад
is that a bar swipe on her chin
@Tony-h8r
@Tony-h8r 9 месяцев назад
Its the same old perview with these Maoris ....you're right play the victim hood card .....or bully the whole country and the media to try and force a change to this new governments policy .....They are naive this is what NZers voted for , she is trying to turn back the clock ....lmao .....it ain't goanna happen ..
@EvilVillianInc
@EvilVillianInc 9 месяцев назад
@@MrPushpuller Why does that matter? What is with settlers and their disgusting habit of poor bashing? Classism runs deep in the blood of settlers it seems.
@taliaware1110
@taliaware1110 9 месяцев назад
Shane Jones was brilliant and he won respectfully
@CHESSTICAL
@CHESSTICAL 9 месяцев назад
Not to mention the government support
@jenniehaxton1240
@jenniehaxton1240 9 месяцев назад
Professional discourse from Shane Jones not so from Te pati M who demonstrated personalised responses
@grantadamson3478
@grantadamson3478 9 месяцев назад
Her responses were purely emotive. Quite childish and immature. Why would anyone choose her to represent them.
@licriss
@licriss 9 месяцев назад
No, "Debbie trades on victimhood" is not at all a professional comment
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
@licriss it's literally the truth lol.
@daedalus7677
@daedalus7677 9 месяцев назад
@@licriss and yet, she does!
@Millektm
@Millektm 9 месяцев назад
All marching off to the nearest KFC or Macca's or both by the look of some of the crowd,probably would have got it for free under Labour .
@andreatodd3095
@andreatodd3095 9 месяцев назад
Debbie, crybullying....., strong Women are not victims and manage misogyny very well, in fact you are respected more if you can demonstrate that you are able as a leader to act appropriately when it's presented to you. Getting people to follow you because you present as a victim is not admirable.
@janbrown9195
@janbrown9195 9 месяцев назад
💯
@andosoup98
@andosoup98 9 месяцев назад
yup how can you be a strong victim, lol, look at say the Vietnamese boat people if you want to know strong and overcoming intergenerational trauma, they dont play the race or victim cards, they just get on with it
@dubstepXpower
@dubstepXpower 9 месяцев назад
Imagine complaining about misogyny while being in government wtf
@catherinevovna851
@catherinevovna851 8 месяцев назад
Strong women are the ones who put up with misogyny? Pffft
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 9 месяцев назад
6:38 finally some sanity. Shane is right it was tokenism that got out of control.
@carlcranfield986
@carlcranfield986 9 месяцев назад
Well done Shane. U had 6 years Debbie.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 9 месяцев назад
that was fantastic to watch.
@Alfonso_111
@Alfonso_111 9 месяцев назад
Debbie wasn't in the last government. 'U' are wrong.
@overover..
@overover.. 9 месяцев назад
Why can they not just accept we voted for this, tantrums and blanket media bias will not change how people feel
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
No it won't
@ricksmith9177
@ricksmith9177 9 месяцев назад
Not everyone voted for this
@daveyboots79
@daveyboots79 9 месяцев назад
The last government didn't have to scrap together a coalition of chaos... but the tantrums haha, oh boy the tantums... How quickly you forget to be able to say that without a hint of irony
@siouxsioux2725
@siouxsioux2725 9 месяцев назад
​@@ricksmith9177Majority did
@viratkishore6930
@viratkishore6930 9 месяцев назад
It's actually awesome, makes people even more supportive of the new govt
@bobolulu7615
@bobolulu7615 9 месяцев назад
Im backing Shane Jones. This man stands for New Zealand. At least when he speaks, he speaks sense. The other person thinks she speaks for ,her people,. If that isnt racial separation i dont know what is. Bravo Shane Jones.
@kosmosgemini4853
@kosmosgemini4853 9 месяцев назад
If your not Māori than you wouldn’t know.
@Mark-g6l7i
@Mark-g6l7i 9 месяцев назад
Her Geen rock carving keeps getting bigger, what is she feeding it ?
@harryflashman4542
@harryflashman4542 9 месяцев назад
Taxpayer's money.
@greencloud2225
@greencloud2225 9 месяцев назад
If Debbie is not a professional politician she should turn down the fat pay packet.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
If that were the case we would end up with a very empty parliament...although we might then have more money for other issues..
@leroyd6778
@leroyd6778 9 месяцев назад
You think Luxon, Shane Jones, Winston don't just want their fat pay packets? Winston next two generations of family are gonna be loaded from all the taxpayers money he's miked in his lifetime.
@Chrizzy60
@Chrizzy60 9 месяцев назад
@@leroyd6778 The statement was, 'if she 'is NOT a professional' politician, she should turn down her pay packet'. Because if she isn't a professional politician - then she should have another job, and only be a part time politician. ONLY professionals do a job full time and get the pay for it. (unless they are retired and on a pension - or tax payer funded wage as Jacinda - that destroyer of our nation is).
@wogga8
@wogga8 9 месяцев назад
Well done Shane Jones.
@banksy1311
@banksy1311 9 месяцев назад
✊🏽
@Spiderman1a
@Spiderman1a 9 месяцев назад
No one knows why they are protesting .....imagine if the European never came here ....us maoris will be running around half naked without WiFi no electric cars ......😂😂
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
The British didn't invent WiFi or electric cars????
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
@2wahineandadog lol Europeans were playing around with electricity thousands of years before Maori even stepped foot in NZ, and the English laid the groundwork for WiFi through their radio technology in WW2, which was then patented by an Australian.
@briankemp2116
@briankemp2116 9 месяцев назад
@@2wahineandadogDuh ! .........unbelievable.
@Spiderman1a
@Spiderman1a 9 месяцев назад
@@2wahineandadog whatever ..
@StGammon77
@StGammon77 9 месяцев назад
Youre the maori kiwi I can be mates with koi koi
@grahamgottard
@grahamgottard 9 месяцев назад
I would like to listen to interviews with impartial interviewers. It seems most in NZ media show a significant bias these last few years
@janbrown9195
@janbrown9195 9 месяцев назад
It sure does and that bias come from the left labour government that was voted Out doesn’t that tell those journos anything?? apparently not
@HUAIREN666
@HUAIREN666 9 месяцев назад
When that Deborah woman started rolling her eyes and making faces, it reminded me of a child getting told they have to finish their homework before they can go out & play 😂
@Jessi-44
@Jessi-44 9 месяцев назад
He’s complicit in promoting racist policies. Of course she’s going to make her thoughts crystal clear. Racism and misogyny is just not acceptable anymore.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Eye rolling and faces are part of our culture (consider the haka) before you start likening our culture to a childs temper tantrum - You choose to constantly view us from a white perspective - which we don't connect with hence the debates
@askay2k
@askay2k 9 месяцев назад
One person one vote, and the people have chosen.
@andrewmann3787
@andrewmann3787 9 месяцев назад
Holding everybody else to ransom Can see the gravy train disapearing in the tunnel Everybodys equal not Everybodys equal and but some are more equal than others.
@alcampbell493
@alcampbell493 9 месяцев назад
The unequal tend to be indigenous peoples worldwide, colonised by European nations, especially Great Britian..Australia, USA, Canada, NZ...why is it always the idigenous peoples, with the highest unemployment, and worst crime, health and education stats ? Coincidence and they're all lazy, useless? I think not.....
@timpope7274
@timpope7274 9 месяцев назад
Debbie pulls some funny faces.
@mashelalnaar
@mashelalnaar 9 месяцев назад
I think that's her natural state.
@pietdebeer7972
@pietdebeer7972 9 месяцев назад
no, that's the moko
@danfray4685
@danfray4685 9 месяцев назад
The bar code accentuates it.
@scottgriffiths326
@scottgriffiths326 9 месяцев назад
And blinks alot
@EvilVillianInc
@EvilVillianInc 9 месяцев назад
@@The1234joe4321 Hey, a WS with an original thought. Go figure
@96Caleb96
@96Caleb96 9 месяцев назад
Notice how the host instantly argues when shane jones speaks but lets the one sharing her views speak
@sox7784
@sox7784 9 месяцев назад
She’s updating her CV
@mr2981
@mr2981 9 месяцев назад
It's funny how the importance of changing names back to something most people can understand is questioned, while Labour and TPM made these wholesale changes In the first place, so apparently they thought it was important then. Hypocritical...
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Great we are in a cost of living crisis and yet we have $1m to waste on changing letterheads and websites etc AGAIN
@grantadamson3478
@grantadamson3478 9 месяцев назад
@@2wahineandadog Didn't you understand the reasons behind the changes even though they were quite well articulated to us all?
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
@2wahineandadog wait till you see how much taxpayer money gangs get lol.
@grantadamson3478
@grantadamson3478 9 месяцев назад
@@AmonAnon-vw3hr Yeah right. What's your point? And do you have an actual fact or is this just BS
@DaHandDatFeeds
@DaHandDatFeeds 9 месяцев назад
@@grantadamson3478 Yeah. Apparently people don't have the capacity to read, speak bilingually, or learn these days.
@iCanBeDaniel
@iCanBeDaniel 9 месяцев назад
Well done Shane Jones, handled very well and talking sense.
@KINNZ94
@KINNZ94 9 месяцев назад
She plainly shames Shane for his age. Hmmmm.. And she is so offended for everything.
@greyhamlogan2255
@greyhamlogan2255 9 месяцев назад
I voted NZ First in line with their and ACT's party policy on co-governance and fully expect this to be enforced.
@evannelson4479
@evannelson4479 9 месяцев назад
Māori throwing their toys out of the cot Te Putu, because we now have a mature intelligent realistic government who represents the majority, not minority radical left wing woke activists. If you want to talk about wealthy elites who don’t give two stuffs about their own people, just take a look at the so called Māori upper 1% higher ups, who are given hundreds of millions of dollars over the decades to help everyday Māori who have seen zero of that money. And by the way, it’s not “ racist to rescue Māori kids from abusive Māori families who injure, maim, and kill their children.
@logicalanswer3529
@logicalanswer3529 9 месяцев назад
Well put.
@Chrizzy60
@Chrizzy60 9 месяцев назад
Yup. Spot on. The reason they are so upset is they see their money tree drying up.
@EvilVillianInc
@EvilVillianInc 9 месяцев назад
"radical left wing woke" - hahaha more US culture war nonsense lol. You've gone and made a low effort buzz word salad
@EvilVillianInc
@EvilVillianInc 9 месяцев назад
@@Chrizzy60 Where this money tree again?
@sox7784
@sox7784 9 месяцев назад
Thumbs up 👍
@LowerHuttHorsesense
@LowerHuttHorsesense 9 месяцев назад
NZ state media calling King Charles a dinosaur. What a disgrace
@dona825
@dona825 9 месяцев назад
Shane Jones is 100% correct, the biggest threat to Maori us Maori. Maori expect privelliged rights when this is a multicultural democratic country. Equal rights for all.
@sox7784
@sox7784 9 месяцев назад
He is spot on
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
That is exactly what we want but what's written on paper and reality aren't the same thing.
@oscarharriet7030
@oscarharriet7030 9 месяцев назад
Well done Shane Jones. Interesting that, unable to play the race card in an argument, the agist, misogynist line is trotted out instead.
@paulleighton7078
@paulleighton7078 9 месяцев назад
Haha you are 100 % correct here , hopefully this nonsense won’t have any legs any more
@oscarharriet7030
@oscarharriet7030 9 месяцев назад
@@paulleighton7078 Absolutely appalling and biased journalism on display as well; Shane Jones did well to keep his cool in the face of a truly unprofessional interview. Please find some decent journalists and less of these Paddy Gower type egotistical ‘show ponies’.
@geoffstokes
@geoffstokes 9 месяцев назад
Speak for all New Zealanders not just one ethnic group, which, incidentally is actually of mixed heritage. Why don't you acknowledge and honour all your whakapapa, not just the Maori side. You're not half or quarter of a person you know.
@krisp4889
@krisp4889 9 месяцев назад
A 32nd used to be enough to get a Maori Affairs Loan__ hence my 6', blue eyed, blond work mate (born in Australia ) qualified__ clearly he was an oppressed Maori!
@HaturiniPaoraAka-nk1ue
@HaturiniPaoraAka-nk1ue 9 месяцев назад
Lol
@EvilVillianInc
@EvilVillianInc 9 месяцев назад
I agree with the overall sentiment of what you've typed. However, each individual person gets to decide who they are. Māori is a culture, language, and heritage. I have Irish heritage. I'm not Irish and never will be. I've never been to Ireland, I don't speak their language, and I don't participate in their culture. It is unfair to claim I am Irish. How disrespectful to Irish people who live and breathe their culture. "Culture includes the many aspects of a community's life that are taught, learned, and practiced on a day-to-day basis. Heritage refers to one's family background or historical lineage, which may or may not be reflected in the culture that one is a part of."
@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700
@hatupaoraolsen-mcgarvey2700 9 месяцев назад
Honouring the Treaty will benefit every culture and race in Aotearoa NZ. Would you rather see Maori doing well and being successful or in prison, impoverished or violent? You only need to look around the world to see the same pattern of the effects of colonisation upon indigenous people like Ireland... e.g. the IRA. Honouring the Treaty is the solution for everyone.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Do you understand how genetics work, Maori's can produce blue eyed blondies and shock horror there are lots of Maori's living in Aussie. If your inference is that your mate fraudulently obtained a MA Loan back in the 80's I think we can let that one go.@@krisp4889
@louis44100
@louis44100 9 месяцев назад
One rule for all New Zealanders.
@donellaritchie
@donellaritchie 9 месяцев назад
Wow comments open, great let the people be heard. Agree completely with Shane.
@siouxsioux2725
@siouxsioux2725 9 месяцев назад
I'm surprised too. The comments are NEVER open
@jtw7777
@jtw7777 9 месяцев назад
Under Labour and TPM this comment section would be closed, we now have a voice and they don't like it.
@dallasfrost1996
@dallasfrost1996 9 месяцев назад
Glad to see freedom of speech make a return.
@somefinndude
@somefinndude 9 месяцев назад
What the hell does being a woman have to do with anything?
@poncholarpez6233
@poncholarpez6233 9 месяцев назад
Nothing, it's a cry bully deflection tactic
@deanwitt7903
@deanwitt7903 9 месяцев назад
It’s just another card to play when your trying to portray yourself as a victim .
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Men and women see/think/work differently it's a different perspective or viewpoint - not sure why everyone thinks it's a "card" that can be pulled out - probably how Shaneel Lal and the transvestite groups think it works but not in actuality
@questor55
@questor55 9 месяцев назад
She's an intersectionalist, so she's used to that claim having currency. The claim relies on the increasingly absurd assumption that women lack political power in this country.
@antmanatthemoment7233
@antmanatthemoment7233 9 месяцев назад
Let's ask Debbie what a woman/wahine is
@bryanthomas3840
@bryanthomas3840 9 месяцев назад
She proved him right by carrying on as a victim.!
@carlcranfield986
@carlcranfield986 9 месяцев назад
Its a debate how is that bullying cmon debbie. Debbie When you losing a dont cry racist or bullying
@truthprevails5056
@truthprevails5056 9 месяцев назад
I'm thinking a Pacifier (dummy) might help???
@harryflashman4542
@harryflashman4542 9 месяцев назад
She can't debate. She's learnt the oppression talking points and if she can't use those all she has are personal attacks.
@janconway2880
@janconway2880 9 месяцев назад
The majority of NZ's voted that they wanted a change and not the way Labour was taking us, so what she is saying she doesn't agree with the outcome, so she doesn't agree with the democratic voting, demonstrations wouldn't happen without the democracy way, I am so tired of her mentioning the colonialism way, this is woke language and it is crap, that's why NZ's pushed back against this way of thinking and teaching. This country is not racist as yet, but the way Maoridom was taking us, it was certainly divisive, to have your own health system would have been the makings of Apartheid and it would have divided the country even more. Maori are already very wealthy, through the Treaty of Waitangi, and it should be ended so that NZ can plan for all NZ's and get the overseas debt down and push for all NZ's, otherwise you will have more NZ's leaving the country and going to Australia.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
She didn't say she didn't agree with the outcome? She was clear that the previous governments direction was not all correct and hence why Te Pati Maori exist. I would love to know which "Maori are already very wealthy" you are referring to - that is such an odd statement.
@edwardtupper6374
@edwardtupper6374 9 месяцев назад
More Maori live in Australia than NZ
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
@2wahineandadog the Maori economy is worth billions of dollars. It's not pakehas fault they don't share it lol.
@krisp4889
@krisp4889 9 месяцев назад
@@2wahineandadog Several of my Maori friends are multi millionaires__ they don't seem to have overcome their "oppression", but then they live their lives looking forward for opportunity, not backwards for victimhood and a free lunch__ Bizarrely their mixed race daughter is also leaping ahead in life, a University degree, worked her way through varsity, no parental hand outs__ amazing what a work ethic can do to improve your "LUCK" To quote a billionaire " The Harder I Work The Luckier I Become"
@janconway2880
@janconway2880 9 месяцев назад
@@2wahineandadogMaori Iwi up to 2021 worth $6.3billion.
@craybro
@craybro 9 месяцев назад
How can Debbie with 3% of the party vote claim to Maori? The vast majority of Maori chose to vote for other parties.
@rotofotonz5150
@rotofotonz5150 9 месяцев назад
Victim mentality is not a way forward
@grantadamson3478
@grantadamson3478 9 месяцев назад
It is all that some of them understand.
@nigelcole299
@nigelcole299 9 месяцев назад
Her body language tells us everything.
@garycody1929
@garycody1929 9 месяцев назад
Shane is too intelligent for the muppets.
@DrRatweasel
@DrRatweasel 9 месяцев назад
Are you freakin serious...!
@peterlattimore6013
@peterlattimore6013 9 месяцев назад
@@DrRatweasel Might say more about you Weasel than Gary's comment.
@purefoldnz3070
@purefoldnz3070 9 месяцев назад
@@DrRatweasel he was calm and level headed and honestly called her out which was brilliant.
@BradyHodge-e8o
@BradyHodge-e8o 9 месяцев назад
Shane Jones for the win
@glennhowlett2082
@glennhowlett2082 9 месяцев назад
Well done Shane.
@geofflewis8599
@geofflewis8599 9 месяцев назад
Debbie is 3/4 white New Zealander..she should understand her own history..
@manu3281
@manu3281 9 месяцев назад
Never forget the damage labour did against Kiwis?! 🤨
@pgreen8531
@pgreen8531 9 месяцев назад
Couldnt debbie fund a bigger platic tikki in the two dollar shop
@DanShirley-o9x
@DanShirley-o9x 9 месяцев назад
Well said Shane
@throughput6674
@throughput6674 9 месяцев назад
New Zealand First just wanted to thank all those who voted Maori party, you managed to give NZF a stronger more powerful voice in parliament
@colindigitaljames6619
@colindigitaljames6619 9 месяцев назад
To be able to March and protest on a normal day of work looks to me like most of them are on a benefit which this free hand out is from people that do have to work for a living. Freight transport and works going to work are all going to be worse off
@DrRatweasel
@DrRatweasel 9 месяцев назад
Good job parroting right wing talking points. 😡
@Tantium
@Tantium 9 месяцев назад
Obstructing a public way is an offence
@Thuglifebabybaby
@Thuglifebabybaby 9 месяцев назад
Every one that i walked with at the protest this morning are full time workers, that are now at work..
@warenawainohu2827
@warenawainohu2827 9 месяцев назад
Kia ora. I was at the protest and now im at mahi 😊
@peterlattimore6013
@peterlattimore6013 9 месяцев назад
@@warenawainohu2827 So you're telling me you're at work but scrolling the internet or just RU-vid? yeah, real productive, Not!
@GregoryFache
@GregoryFache 9 месяцев назад
Stop rolling eyes please
@111mcivor
@111mcivor 9 месяцев назад
Swear to the king to be in parliament or otherwise head home.
@chriskiwi2601
@chriskiwi2601 9 месяцев назад
It wouldn't matter how much money you throw at Maori issues there would still be problems. Baby Ru and sadly the historic list goes on and on.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
Your assuming that all "Maori issues" are about or require money - it costs nothing to treat a fellow countrymen as an equal and yet you still won't do.
@chriskiwi2601
@chriskiwi2601 9 месяцев назад
​@@2wahineandadogWhy did the government give food vouchers to Maori to encourage them to get vaccinated and fill out census papers? No one else was given that offer. Maori must stand on their own 2 feet. Refer to, DrMN Paewai and David Hone Rankin, Te Matarahurahu hapu Ngapuhi. They say it all.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
What a load of codswallop - I saw on the news same as you that some Vax centres were offering things and I agree some of those were Maori centres - however in Akl the PI centres were doing the same. I went to a govt Vax centre for my first one which was horrible and impersonal and then to my local doctors set up for the rest - I wasn't lucky enough to win the daily prize etc but I did someone get a microwave - he was Asian but it never occurred to me I was supposed to wrestle him to the floor for stealing a purely Maori prize....My daughter did get lollies after her jab but she's a child, pretty sure the white girl in the car behind us got the same lollies, same amount there weren't Maori lollies and white lollies@@chriskiwi2601
@JP-hw4me
@JP-hw4me 9 месяцев назад
Ka pai Shane Jones !! 💪
@Sadder302
@Sadder302 9 месяцев назад
The translation doesn’t makes sense ,
@michealwalford2905
@michealwalford2905 9 месяцев назад
Country's voted..and now the trash heap has spoken. The media's coverage is cringe worthy 😬
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
The trash heap? brush off your shoulders Sir you still have leaf litter
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@AmonAnon-vw3hr 9 месяцев назад
@2wahineandadog empty words.
@2wahineandadog
@2wahineandadog 9 месяцев назад
as opposed to your pearls of wisdom@@AmonAnon-vw3hr
@briananderson5634
@briananderson5634 9 месяцев назад
This is why I no longer watch TV.
@jackalenejohnson6574
@jackalenejohnson6574 9 месяцев назад
Thank God Shane is in governance not the other with him now
@mixmastamaori3931
@mixmastamaori3931 9 месяцев назад
Maori party. We have been oppressed and no one will listen to us for more than 1 month. Let's protest. Us Maori have been privileged for so long we can't see it
@bathena6022
@bathena6022 9 месяцев назад
This blonde "journalist" is so woke.
@annatetiad.4991
@annatetiad.4991 9 месяцев назад
yep and they are deleting comments they dont like.
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