Shannon Sharpe is QUICK to say 'NO!' Randy Moss isn't the G.O.A.T wide receiver 🏈 | First Take 

Jerry Rice was unreal. I had the privilege to watch him play. No one can touch him.

Facts bro and ima Randy fan

And an era where DB’s could destroy WR’s!

Screwed. The niners were a pass heavy team in an era where pass coverage was awful lmao it’s really that simple. Rice doesn’t put up those numbers in the mid 2000s. Still be a great receiver but he wouldn’t have nearly the numbers he has today. Truth me told he’s not the goat. The greatest WR of all time is AB. Then tyreek.. then rice. Then Marvin Harrison.. then TO then Randy moss.

Man they ran tht Westcoast offense plz

Absurd!

Bro!! Neverrrrrrr knew that. That changes the conversation

When it comes to work ethic, no one tops Jerry Rice and Kobe.

@@wavoe368nah fr I legit have never heard that stat before😂I used to be a Randy guy personally now I feel a lil foolish Lmao

I stg

Can u say joe Montana and Steve Young

@@RAnixon​​⁠well in the raiders at 40 he had 1200 yards with no joe or young

@@RAnixonwhile moss was washed up between mid to late or even semi early 30s

@@MagicMan69171wasn’t rich Gannon qb? He wasn’t bad?

@@MagicMan69171but Randy was that guy, and he played for a horrible team.

That is more impressive than any great year a 40 yeard old qb had considered the higher level of athleticism and punishment WRs take, ESPECIALLY back then

He is the Undisputed 🐐 of the NFL. Played in an harder era of football and blew the records out of the water while making multiple Super Bowls and winning a Super Bowl MVP as a WR which is nearly unheard of. He is simply the 🐐

Yeah I'm a moss , mega and to fan but Rice was a different beast

@@BlackRoyalty_ Moss is better than Jerry. This is the Aaron Rodgers vs Tom Brady argument all over again. Moss is more talented and had more potential while Rice had a better career.

@@squanchy2925 Moss is nowhere near Jerry

@@BlackRoyalty_ that is objectively incorrect. Moss is the most talented receiver to ever play. Unfortunately he didn’t play for great QBs for most of his career and his ego hindered some of his success. Again, it’s the most talented vs the most successful.

Watch these lil rats coming to attack you lmao you said nothing but the truth

Its really anyone that actually knows football knows Rice is the greatest WR of all time. And I am a Cowboy fan, you know us Cowboy fans love our Michael Irvin. Randy can't even take the torch from Irvin either, Irvin has the 3 rings and wss a big reason for those rings.

Jerry had two top 10 qbs throwing the Ball

Listen I know you right trust me i KNOW YOU RIGHT, but at the same time there is not a single area jerry rice is better as a wide receiver than moss other than owning all the stats lol. He's not faster than Moss, he doesn't run routes better than Moss, he's not a better deep threat, put it like this they gave tom Brady randy Moss and they didn't lose a single game until the super bowl lol, and all you had to do was throw the ball up and let Moss do the rest. but statiscally the Goat is Jerry Rice you cant argue that, best WR in NFL is Jerry, best WR in the position is randy Moss

@@patriotskingnation8084 meanwhile jerry had two hall of fame QBs throwing to him what are you even saying lmao Montana and Steve Young lol

Maybe 2

And yet nobody says “you got Riced” 🥱 Randy Moss the goat.

@@toreworld5820Moss was talented but Rice numbers is a sea difference.

​@@toreworld5820lol moss ain't even the best receiver of his era. T.O is

@@toreworld5820like unc said. The terms in the games you see, yac and rac were made because of rice. That’s more special than having one catch named after you

I think the only thing that tops it is that very same year Reggie White had 21 sacks in 12 games

Yeah, that's also because defenses weren't as pass prepared, yeah the dbs could use more hands & etc, but the defenses themselves were less prepared to stop the pass system wise. Moss made defense develop to defend him. edit: I see, you will likely only think Jerry Rice's numbers are super impressive if do not understand the history of the game, how he got the numbers, not just that he got the numbers.

coming off a strike season, with bums playin. let's not forget.

Not coming off a strike season. It was strike shortened. That would be the following season and all the main players came back.

Ya I wouldn’t go that far but a pretty amazing stat

Crazy man. He was special

So he had longevity and got the ball when folks were concentrating on stopping the run. Rice by far has the best career and stats as a WR, so that makes him the GREATEST, but Moss is better. Fitz is better, Megatron is better, AB is better. They don't have Rice's fanatical dedication. They don't have his willpower. They don't have his drive. They don't have his rings. But at the skill of running a route and catching the ball? Those guys are better. Same argument goes for Brady. Undoubtedly the GOAT, but at the skill of reading a D and throwing the ball, the essence of Quarterbacking, Rodgers, Mahomes and Manning are better.

Your a bot

⁠@@kernalbert4939maybe Manning over Brady for the reading the defense part but that’s if .

@@adammcnabb5167 Yeah, Manning throws an ugly ball, but he does know where to throw it and he does it based on alignment pre-snap with post snap adjustments. Dude can actually audible the play POST snap. He is a better QB, but definitely not a GREATER one than Brady.

On the same network as well god I love Shannon😤

Facts!!!!

💯

In 2010, he was voted as the GOAT, any position, by NFL contemporaries.

@@lunaticfringe896Jerry and Brady are the two best individual players ever imo

@@MuckNoya Not Brady. He has a cheating asterisk

Except Jerry rice

Talent isn’t everything. Work ethic and accomplishments count too.

That's because you weren't even born when Jerry was killing it goofy

@@jasonsoileau924 Jerry Rice admitted to cheating using Stickum

Like the overall GOAT who won Superbowls, MVP'S and Pro Bowls in 3 different decades, 00's,2010's,2020's and if you split his career in 3 each one would make the HOF.

@@shawnsanders9450that’s bukkshit. How does 2020s make the hof?? You’re crazy.

@@shawnsanders9450also Jerry was a better football player than him.

@@youngerudit2524 If you split Brady's career into 3. Each career makes the HOF. From age 40 on what Brady did makes the HOF and that's not even 1/3rd of his career. Its YOUR opinion whether or not Brady is the best football player of all time. See the man in the thumbnail? He has been quoted on NUMEROUS occasions having the opinion that Tom Brady is the GOAT FOOTBALL PLAYER! Argue with him and MOST HOF football players. Good luck👍

@@youngerudit2524 reading compression isn't your Strongsuit. Is it? Never did i say from 2020 on that Brady had a HOF career. I CLEARLY said that if you split his career in 3 each one(1/3) would make the HOF.

Don't forget peak performance! Rice had 22 TDs in a 12 game, strike shortened season.

@@themack74dude, that doesn’t change the fact that Jerry has better numbers and more accolades than Moss. I don’t use feelings when making an argument. Only numbers and data .

​@@themack74 considering how many yards he was getting. Maybe they should have.

Randy got tripled and randy hands down was better

@@luddman77 that’s a terrible point you made to prove why Randy is better. Stats, numbers, and accolades say other wise.

Remember when the 49ers got caught spraying silicone spray on their jerseys against the saints? Dirty cheats!

I Agree.........

No they're going off ability.

ehh , right . gait's .

@@ccarrera951lmaoooo

You’re not wrong ! I seen too Lebron has had his career prolonged a bit because his gait. He has a slight bow legged walk.

@@TheEsquireofSports.2.0 his legs brotha look at the legs. They have a slight bend to them almost how a bow for an arrow is curved. That little curve to his leg in turn helps with some impact during games. Or I’m just crazy

@@MegaMjjordanyou aren't crazy. This is true. If you have a gait like Zion's, you will have injuries

That has nothing to do with who is a better WR.

He's still the GOAT

​@@charlesm7589🤓

You must be white. Can’t see him doing that for a black fan…..He’s too 🦝-ish.

​@@charlesm7589i guess the numbers do, and jerry is greater than 2 randy mosses 😂😂😂

Literally the term GOAT started because of Jerry Rice

Once again..at least it is Randy Moss himself saying it....but he ain't the goat..Jerry all day

Possibly the greatest NFL player of all time

@@gabrieldean9559 that is Tom Brady and it’s not even close. But if we remove the QB position, yeah I too give it to Jerry.

@@raider_reaper_4194 I'm also a raider fan and the exact reason why I commented lol

Great comparison.

Tim Duncan got 5 Rings boy if you don’t Stop!

@@MrWrightNowTVok and jerry got 3 in football it’s much harder to win SBs than NBA finals where it’s a 7 game series

That's a pretty bad comparison.

Where is this myth coming from? The '80s were NOT run dominated. the '70s were. Further, I'm not aware of any serious pro football fan that consistently tries to put anyone ahead of Rice and for good reason. He's the GOAT. Usually, I'M the only one saying that only Don Hutson can compete with him for GOAT.

No there is not. Jerry Rice used stickum- admitted to it and then tried to backtrack.

@@user-wj9bz8xi9u im supposed to pretend to care about stickum?

@@phillipbagley1226 It's banned

@@user-wj9bz8xi9u cool 👍🏽

Quite the opposite actually

​@@LuckyKlvrSyxare you on Crack? Jerry today would play till he's 50

@@LuckyKlvrSyx just say u don’t watch football😂😂😂

Moss didn't play in this Era so it works both ways.

Stickum is illegal in today's game

Or maybe Montana and Young were pro bowl because THEY HAD Jerry Rice? How many pro bowl QBs DON'T HAVE pro bowl wide outs? They benefit from each other. Also Culpepper was a pro bowler and Randy had Cris Carter opposite of him for a few years. It's not like Moss played with Mark Sanchez or something 😂

@@JP-jd8wrexactly !! Culpepper threw for 40 tds Rice made Rich Gannon official

@@JP-jd8wr Don't disrespect Montana like that. He was already a 3 time pro bowler and 2 time Super Bowl Champ/MVP before Rice was even with the 49ers

He only said that because he don't like T.O. T.O is behind jerry not moss he great but was a quitter and played as he said when he wanted too

@@andrewwebster7185why didn’t randy make kerry Collins official ? Lol

Fr man dudes the greatest football player of all time in any position the gap between him and every other top 3 receiver is miles apart

I'm a Bronco fan and I approve this message 😂😂😂

Lol

Fitz honestly doesn’t belong in that convo

@@king_supreme1102 Yeah he does. He's second in yards and catches behind Jerry, and 6th in TD catches. And the best QB he played with was an old Kurt Warner

Randy is better

​@luddman77 randy Is definitely more talented and physically gifted he didn't have Montana and young as qbs either. He could of had more numbers if not for the I play when I want to attitude but randy without question is one of the best wr I ever seen

@@king_supreme1102think you drop a chromosome with that take bud

Amen

Hahaha

Thatz called stickum lol

​@@tramarparker7725No. Stickum was outlawed when Rice was in high school. That's from literally catching bricks. His father was a Brick Mason

Jerry was far, FAR more than just hands. I don't even consider him to have the best hands in pro football history. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't even place him in the top 5. Further, there have been plenty of NFL Films specials that rank the best and he doesn't top that list either

@@mongoslade277There’s videos of Rice himself admitting using Stickum in the NFL

In a running league!!! He would have twice the numbers in todays passing league and can’t hit the WR league.

Sterling sharp was the best receiver to ever play the game if he didn’t get hurt. Him and Jerry use to battle

@@calvindudley9706lol

No one prob gonna beat moss td record either

@@alexcoronahe would have bigger numbers but he wouldn’t have twice those numbers

And. RANDY MOSS. WOULD DUST RICE IN ANY SPRINT TRACK RACE. AND WAS MORE AGILE TOO. HIGHER HIGH JUMP TOO. WAS R. MOSS .

​@@captainamericaamerica8090WTF that got to do with anything didn't get him better numbers over the 🐐

@@captainamericaamerica8090if Moss is was more agile than Rice, why does Jerry Rice have 10 rushing touchdowns to Moss 0. In fact Jerry Rice has more rushing touchdowns than Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, T.O, Odell, Antonio Brown, Larry Fitzgerald, Julio Jones all combined.

Imagine if he was in an offense like the early 2000 Rams, he’d probably be sitting on almost 30k yards

Joe Montana and Steve Young were game managers in your opinion. Okay.

@@cliftonconnor9389 I never said that. You can't tell me what my opinion is. They complement each other, but I don't want Jerry's achievements to be looked at sideways because of his QBs.

But the mid '80s+ was NOT a run heavy league, like the '70s were. The '70s were the aberration, not the '80s. Further, in general, the WCO was NOT run heavy

@@lunaticfringe896 The bears dominated the league in 1985 with the 4 6 bear defense, that's a run based defense, you cannot dominate a pass advanced heavy league with a run based defense, but the Bears did, proving that the league was still run based. The offense only was exploring the passing game in the early 80's with Dan Marino & the 49ers were obliviously among the front runners. Now when Jerry Rice got into the league in 1985, with the 49ers, he represented the Future of passing the football, as the west coast system took over more & they dominated the run based defenses until the defense truly started to catch up pass system wise around 1996.

He is

He should do that in the basketball debate

@@lenorencepayton6879 nah. You can troll all you want to but this isn’t even a debate.

@@mr.doctorcaptain1124It’s definitely a debate

​@@lenorencepayton6879 Goat 🐐 Jerry Rice better then Randy Moss try again Touchdowns career J Rice 208✔️ (NFL record WR) R Moss 156 Playoff touchdowns catches J Rice 22 tds ✔️ R Moss 10 tds First team all pro selections J Rice 10✔️ (most all time WR) R Moss 4 Pro bowl selections J Rice 13✔️ (most all time WR) R Moss 6 Career best Touchdown season J Rice 22 tds in 12 games R Moss 23 tds in 16 games Rings J Rice 3✔️ R Moss 0 Superbowl Mvps J Rice 1✔️ R Moss 0 Randy Moss arguably most talented WR ever height speed But Randy Moss isn't the best WR ever he CHOKED in big playoff games Antonio Brown better overall WR then Randy Moss in my opinion Antonio Brown 2nd best WR I've ever seen After Jerry Rice Antonio Brown can run ever route and elite stopping on dime and taking over big playoff games

Roger Craig never won league mvp. He was offensive player of the year that year rushing for 1500 yards and catching 500. But I agree with you - rice played in an era that was more focused on the run game, not like the pass happy league of the two decades. And that season rice only caught 64 passes - he averaged over 20yards a catch 🤯

You do realize Randy moss literally broke Jerry rice most TD in a season record in 16 games , Jerry Rice had 22 TD in a season Randy moss had 23

@@DuragVj Did you read what he was saying? That Rice did his record in 4 less games then it did for Moss too break it! That’s what made Rice’s season crazy to do that in 12 games!

@@tonyhill6220it was a strike season. He was playing against bumbs

​@@tonyhill6220Rice did it against worse competition. If Randy played on that same 49ers team that Rice played on, everyone and their brother can agree that he would've been more of a problem than Rice.

​@thuglifezeem716 what's your point?

Calvin Johnson is not better than Antonio Brown

Randy moss is better than all. Even Jerry

The fact u got Terrell n Calvin over Moss disqualifies u from this convo

@@ceceroxy2227 preach

Calvin johnson over moss 😂😂😂

T.O better than both

Moss had a greater career than megatron. Easy.

So why did he have to cheat then?! 👀

No not even runner up. There are other better recs

Dude had hall of fame Qbs Give moss 07 brady from jump for 10 yrs his numbers are crazy

Exactly

@@natalydavidsmith3118leave them drugs alone bro

Jerry was using glue on his glove or you forgot

They did when they played Houston/Warren moon.

Warren Moon, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, John Elway, Randall Cunningham- all led LOADED passing attacks

And that team never won, LOL@@newagain9964

It was called the Run n Shoot offense. The problem why it wasn’t more successful, was because you needed to max protect your QB. Your QB would get destroyed. And you could just bump and re route receivers back then. That’s the point. You are watching a completely different game now.

@@357twilson yeah, that was my point. The game is different and thrives on letting receivers run up and down the field to catch.

It's really not

Jerry had 23 touchdowns during 12 games seasons 😂😂 insane!

And Jerry had a rushing td that year so total td’s were the same

U do know it was a cut season right? He wasn't injured.

Jerry literally played against backups that season. So that stat is inflated.

​​​​@@limegreensharpayswrong...the scabs(backups) played 3 games and 1 week the nfl didnt play any games,thats why it was a 15 game season...jerry was part of the strike which is why he only played 12 games that year...you dont have to get on the net and lie my man...some of us are old enough to rememember what actually happened

@@eddiethomas1156WOOOOH! Ric Flair voice. SET THEM STRAIGHT! CASUALS AS USUAL

@markielcepeda90003 Rice had joe Montana his whole career and he used stickup

He played on multiple teams. What talking about?​@@darnellwilliams8783

​@darnellwilliams8783 wah wah cry harder m0fo... tell the vikings they should've drafted better. Plus did that stickem help him do everything besides catching?

​@@darnellwilliams8783 There are easier ways to say you don't watch football than coming up with lies. Jerry Rice had Joe Montana from 1985-1992, then Joe played the last couple seasons of his career in KC. Rice kept playing until 2004. That's 12 years without Joe Montana. In those 12 years, he made multiple All-Pros, Pro Bowls, led the league in receiving yards multiple years, led in receptions, led in touchdowns. He was second team all-pro when he was 40. So please elaborate how he had Joe Montana for his whole career, when he actually only had him for 40% of his career.

Rice Def had the better consistent QBs

This. It's like arguing between AI and Kobe. You may love AI but Kobe was the far better player overall. That's not a diss.

Just say you never actually saw Moss play

@MuckNoya Naw kid I've been here watching football since 82 and I saw at least 5 Wrs in my lifetime I would rather have. My frame of reference doesn't start with his stats and some youtube highlights. Oh and for the record. Rice, Brown, Calvin Johnson, Cris Carter, Art Monk.

@@lordmegatron8444 Tim or Antonio?

@@duydo6924 Tim

Hahaha can’t argue the numbers, performances, and accomplishments, so you have to try and disqualify him. Nice try pal

Which is sad. I'm a huge fan. He took too many plays off when he was in his prime. That td catch against The Jets over Revis. Still gives me chills, though.

I give you that… Good one!!!

I agree. He had the talent to be the goat but work ethic could be factor.

Moss had Chris Carter to mentor. Jerry was Jerry when he played.

That’s a stretch,you could argue that but truth be told he’s one of the best to ever do it.

Especially That You Hate The Cowboys so much and You sick of hearing it when undisputed becomes the Dallas cowboys program.

That's bs 😂 it's simply because MOST "fans" are casual fans and what THEY see from players in the era THEY watch impacts who they feel is the best. Most who say Moss simply never watched Jerry Rice other than highlights IF THAT

I saw both them play. And moss is better. He did more with less talent at QB and on roster.

@@newagain9964The only trash team Moss ever played for was The Raiders and whined until he was able to get outta there. He had Tom Brady in his PRIME btw throwing him the rock and he still wasn’t happy. Moss was nice at wide but his attitude does overshadow his game a bit. Jerry was loyal to the Niners until they sent him to Seattle. Win lose or draw he just played.

@@derrickbailey1714he did say Randy played on trash teams, he said less talented teams.

Great comment. Best talent vs the 🐐

Jerry Rice is the Bar in which all must hope to surpass in the NFL

Ego can be a big part of a wr. I disagree with moss heavily, but I respect the confidence, one of the things that made him great

You can't forget the numbers or stickum.

That's bc Chad is a complete clown

Moss has the most receiving TDs in a season ever and the rookie record all time.

By remembering the stickum that helped Jerry for over half his career with so many catches. That’s how you forget the numbers. Dude deserves the same Asterisk on many of his records because of it.

Exactly what do you mean forget the numbers without the numbers anyone can be a goat the numbers are everything

But they did as in the NFL in a whole was run heavy back then... but the 9ers had rice and rice was killing folks

Say you young without saying you young smh... You had to be around then

Was in superbowl at 40 and scared the F out of my bucs

Moss did go across the middle.. & Moss did block down field….

​@@junejune2173 Goat 🐐 Jerry Rice better then Randy Moss try again Touchdowns career J Rice 208✔️ (NFL record WR) R Moss 156 Playoff touchdowns catches J Rice 22 tds ✔️ R Moss 10 tds First team all pro selections J Rice 10✔️ (most all time WR) R Moss 4 Pro bowl selections J Rice 13✔️ (most all time WR) R Moss 6 Career best Touchdown season J Rice 22 tds in 12 games R Moss 23 tds in 16 games Rings J Rice 3✔️ R Moss 0 Superbowl Mvps J Rice 1✔️ R Moss 0 Randy Moss arguably most talented WR ever height speed But Randy Moss isn't the best WR ever he CHOKED in big playoff games Antonio Brown better overall WR then Randy Moss in my opinion Antonio Brown 2nd best WR I've ever seen After Jerry Rice Antonio Brown can run ever route and elite stopping on dime and taking over big playoff games

Jerry is the Tom Brady of the WR position. Never the most talented but a work ethic and competitive nature that was on a whole other level along with that clutch gene that just can't be taught.

Jerry Rice wouldn’t have won anything without Joe Montana or Steve Young. Overrated 🤷‍♀️

@@justineebourgeois342010 1st Team All Pro & 2 OPOY & SB MVP Name another WR that comes close to that

They had to create defenses for Randy Moss😂

@@luddman77what defense did they have to create? A corner playing off of Moss and a safety over the top. What is new about that?

@@357twilson it was how deep the safety was. The safety was basically in prevent defense in a 1st & 10. It was unheard of and randy still smoke them. He was doing this as a rookie.

@@luddman77 no they didn't, they just had to double team him like they did for Rice. The exaggerations aren't gonna work on people who saw them both play. Rice is by far the 🐐

Are you serious? The term you got Mossed was created because of how dominant he was.

Yes sir... Tyreek Hill right behind him

Desean Jackson aint no slouch......

Deep threat? Moss is .... Rice is known for Yards after catch

@@MrEOM41Jerry Rice did it all. Deep ball, slant, screen, whatever. Pull up the highlights.

Jerry Rice could just carve you up any way Burger King have it your way 🤣🤣

He great weapons bill Walsh Joe Montana and Steve Young! A hall of fame coach thst invented the west coast offense and 2 hall of fame qb's one being the second best ever! Yeah I'd say those are good weapons to have as a wide receiver lmfao 🤣

@@RAnixonwhat about when he put up #s with the raiders and seahawks lol

@bangladeshirealtor I totally agree but just think if randy had Joe and Steve caliber qb's for the first 5 to 7 yrs!?😬

AD is closer to LT than Moss is to JR and both respectively are a chasm away from those who preceded them.😑

Stats aren’t everything

​@@dean3438 "stats arent everything" bro produced more in a less qb friendly game. Moss was great, but I cant pick him over the dude who performed better in big games, played at a high level longer, and had better production at his peak. Moss had the tools to be better than anyone, but he wasted years in Oakland due to being unmotivated, and only got sent there since he was a lockerroom issue.

@@Dameatii I’m not defending moss but I’ll take him and Calvin Johnson over guys like rice. The level of nfl players was different in the 1980s /1990s the talent just keeps getting better. Rice playing well in his 40s is great thou. All I’m saying is there are guys like sterling sharpe, terrrell Davis, Bo Jackson, etc. who didn’t put up a bunch of stats and were great so stats don’t tell the whole story.

@@dean3438facts

Emmitt Smith has the most rushing yds and tds ever. He has MVPs too. Emmitt isn't even top 5 to most people. Everyone had Barry over Emmitt. Point is Like Emmitt Smith, Rice got drafted to the best situation. Those 49er teams had the best o line, qb and defense. Plus a hall of fame head coach who won the superbowl before Rice got drafted. Moss is the better player

And Aaron Rodgers not close to goat 🐐 Brady level Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps more then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp Mahomes 2 rings, 2 superbowl mvps already greater Quarterback then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp Greatest NFL top 5 Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Patrick Mahomes 4. Peyton Manning 5. John Elway

It's raw born with talent vs work ethic, clutch gene, competitiveness and the results speak for themselves. Like Tom Brady Rice was good way past a age in which he should have been as well.

The amount of stick’em he used you didn’t even need to catch the ball. It’s randy number 1

@@Gmossy11 Moss was terrible in playoff games

​@@Gmossy11all you do is make goofy arguments it seems lol