Shark Tank Judge's Message To Campus Protesters 

"They come out of jail PVP flagged" lmfao

My wife works for 3M. She was told if her spouse posts anything derogatory about them on social media, she would lose her job. I want to, believe me, there's some bullshit going on there like we haven't got our tax return and we filed in January. They changed half their company to "solventum" (solving problems with momentum), stupidest change ever, and she works for that now, which messed up her tax return. Can't talk about that or she gets fired? I'm a stay home dad so I guess I gotta just stfu, but my freedom of speech shouldn't be violated when I'm not the one who works there, but that shit affects me.

Kevin is lowkey telling the audience that the credit surveillance system will be in full effect by the time these kids graduate

Bank of America already got caught doing a Social Credit Score based on your purchases.

400+ arrests, all released the next day.

I recall my parents preaching nonstop when I was in highschool about how everything I did on the internet could effect my job prospects if it was egregious enough. The problem has been growing for decades.

snowden has been talking about this problem around invasion of privacy for years... and ppl are still barely able to grasp the issue, sigh.

It’s shocking how many people support the theory of „they did a crime once, so they should be punished for the rest of their lives“. Older generations went on protests, and they got in jail for stupid things they did when they were young. People make mistakes and learn their lesson. Eventually you have to forgive them.

24:30 - it depends on the nature of the crime, honestly. If you were convicted for animal abuse, animal shelters are reasonably not going to want to hire you.

"If they were a criminal, they would still be in jail". In California they get out the next day.

When you’re doing shit like this in PUBLIC it is no longer in private. The argument he makes about that just doesn’t make any sense

I saw this coming from a mile away and left every social media I had in the early 2010's

I don't remember then being this worried about the BLM riots.

"You hire them, I won't." LMAO 🤣🤣🤣

Just because you got out of jail doesn't mean you are 'resocialized' i just means you did your sentence.

Imagine not getting car insurance because you were going 3mph over the speed limit driving past pizza hut.

Imagine spending tens of thousands on tuition fee just to become unemployable...

It feels like vampires complaining about goblins, which is absolutely hilarious and ironic

If someone will be a disruption at their school it could be a safe assumption that they are more likely to be a disruption in the workplace, regardless of how righteous their motives may be

Another example is the Canadian Trucker Convoy where protesters had their bank accounts frozen.

I find it disgusting that some people suddenly become so willing to forgive any behaviour but only when perpetrators have certain political affiliation or belong to certain demographic groups.

I SHIT YOU NOT, the day after watching this I get an email back about a job I applied to asking me to send them my credit score to be considered. What the actual fuck dude.

The main issue is, it doesn't matter what you or anyone else thinks. If you post something on Social Media, it most likely will be held against you if it is offensive to any particular group, in any way. This means effectively you cannot use social media if you value your future carer options.

Funny enough there are a ton of companies where they check your credit score before you are hired. Companies do this if you are in finance or any position where you are expected to deal with large sums of money. They make sure you aren’t in a ton of debt because you would be more likely to steal from the company.

The quiet part they're not mentioning is that these ultra expensive schools like NYU don't actually produce better candidates. Am I the only one not shocked that in the midst of an extended economic downturn with tons of layoffs corporate hiring is considering financially responsible students from state schools over students that spent several times over to attend a school with a fancy name. Mix in a bunch of controversial rhetoric and they've got an excuse to ignore these more expensive applicants.

All companies do background checks. If you have felonies or arrest records, they’re gonna come up. It doesn’t matter if you’re a CEO or working for Burger King.

it used to be the job of society as a whole to refute weird losers and exile them from the community.

Hospitals do background checks on your face whenever you're hired.

As a corporate employee (10+ years) that has a job role that involves investigating employees in various situations. They don't think twice about using your social media etc against you if they can access it. Never give them access. Never tell them you have accounts with specific social media. Be careful who you "befriend" in your workplace. If you are going to use social media with people from your work have a separate account for work people. If you are going to say things that are unpopular (either direction on the spectrum) on the internet, use unlinked aliases that can't be easily found tied to your name. Ironically as tech has become smarter, people have become dumber when considering the side effects of using the tech. Which has allowed these companies and governments to just harvest it all for free and use it against you. Whether you agree or disagree with a particular protest or incident related. We ALL lose as the privacy is continually lost. It starts with the individual though. Most people give all of this data for free by posting their every movement/motive/action on social media.

Destruction of property and violating the law are not constitutional rights.

I'seen a short recently where a guy was filming someone dancing in an empty field. It was low quality like the video you took 10 years ago. But at the end he zoomed out. The guy was filming from 1 or 2 km away from one hill to another. It was probably his friend and it was just an idea to illustrate how you could be filmed today. That's the kind of video that make you think privacy is over outside. Especially if you have reason to be observed... for now... and like you said. In years it will be like this for every corner of a city. We have a dev paradigm every company kinda follow since decades: "Log everything, even what is currently pointless, you don't know how it might come handy in the future". And it happen all the time: as a proof to defend yourself against a dishonnest (or confused) customer, as a lead to help you find something else (bug?) by using it as a time trace. Video logs (vlogs) will be/are the same thing. It's just not yet everyone because it is way expensive to store it unlike texte, but think how youtube store video without any limitation. Time will come where storage will not be an issue anymore and you will be able to store every camera feeds for decades and they will probably be ai processed to be indexed like a library to be able to search in them and then take it out of archive. If it come to that for the state polices, it will eventually leak everywhere at one point. Sorry if that's sound complotist, we're not there, but my common sense especially as a dev tell me it would be possible someday. Another say we have: "if it is technically possible, it will happen". Edit about why the zoomout was impressive: it was not a CNN/expansive camera, every last iphone could do that, maybe with a lens or 2, but every one is already able to film (not just watch) from 1km away. Even if it was possible years ago, it is way too easy now and that's why it'll happen more and more.

I think a lot of the issue with these students that makes them not appealing to an employer that Asmon isn't associating in this video isn't the "well they're a criminal", but that they made a very clear show that they disrespect all authority. They took over a building that didn't belong to them, refused to leave when asked or cooperate with police making them leave, vandalizing the property, etc. This speaks to a number of traits you do not want in an employee, not simply a political difference. It won't stop at just that though, and I think that was what he's trying to get at and it could've been explained better. The "yes, this is how it is there, but how they're discovering this definitely isn't just being used to that extent".

I live in stl. We had a small protest at a campus and it got shut down fast. The teachers that organized it were fired from what I heard.

25:44 you make an excellent point, but I’m nit picky. Who determines who is a threat or not, and using what precedent or criteria?

Here in Canada the police have started using some sort of facial recognition technology on protestors.

"Sorry, but it's up to the employer" until employer finds their shitposting account.

Individuals have a right to privacy but a lot of these actions are not private (public protests, posts on twitter)

So to some degree I agree I don't think there will be any issues getting hired but there is risk when it comes to how holding your job because it would only take one report for a corporation to say the liability you bring out ways your value to us as an employee. That being said you will likely gated out of some of the highest paying job opportunities because those companies hire outside companies to investigate potential new highers

Shark tank admits to discrimination. Even ex prisoners have more rights than the students to a fair hiring process.

Turns out real life is not Twitter. FAFO

Asmongold: “You’re Bald!”

I need to know the history of an employee. I still hire people that have been in jail, but I refuse to hire people who hurt others, argues with police etc.

@28:39 Candance Owens (known as Red Pill Black at the time) tried to do this back in 2016ish with a company she started called Social Autopsy. I wonder if anyone else even remembers about this.

Where was this energy for people charged with felonies despite being nonviolent at the capital on j6?

If a employer is investigating a public record of someone before hire does that count as part of their privacy?

The raw amount of people defending public surveillance and profiling this is astounding, its not just limited to current laws or ideals either, it can be you at a shooting range having fun, or at an LGBT event, Trump or Biden rally or maybe a bad day and scolding a public service worker, they don't see the repercussions until it affects them and by then it is too late.

Democracy -> economic freedom -> corporation control -> economic slavery -> protest -> surveilance increase -> opression -> unrest -> revolution

Kevin Might be a scumbag, but he's not wrong here.

If you're the kind of person who is violent or steals then a company has the right to know before hiring you and they have the right to not hire you because of it.

The right to privacy is not a right to anonymity. You also have no reasonable right to, or expectation of privacy, when you are participating in a public spectacle.

Apparently Israelis also get to control if you're allowed to be employed. Nothing says an oppressed people like control over your livelihood.

One thing is protesting, another thing is vandalism and blocking public property.

Following is stalking. That analogy doesn't work. Don't burn cars and buildings.

I think people in this comment section forget that people do deserve second chances if they already get punished for it by going to jail or prison. Nobody should have one single mistake in their life holding over them and denying them the chance to turn their life around. If the entire world have this mindset that nobody deserve second chances, we would not have celebs like Tim Allen who had went to prison before he became an voice actor.

The chick that Oleary is talking to looks like some kind of alien beast warrior.

Why are we suprised that companies dont want to hire someone who creates violent scenarios. Its not about the protest for the companies its about the violent nature of these. Companies shouldnt care about what you do in your free time but at the same time committing crimes and harrassing people is very telling of your character. You dont have to be super smart to want to stay away from people of that character. Also their actions do represent the company because people will go into the media and crucify companies if they are known to hire criminals or if they fail to fire people that commit crimes. This has nothing to do with political opinions and everything to do with burning stuff and assulting people which are crimes. It is possible to recognize that a political opinion is true and or just but also recognize that their is a bad way of communicating. Its baffling how intellectually dishonest people are being with this situation. "Who decides what is good conduct?" if you cant see that these protests were not done in a mature and morale way then you need to go back to kindergarden. We learn not to steal things, break things, hit people, harrass people, at the age of 5. Stop pretending this is some morale delema. Its a huge L take to think that "burning down public property should not affect your job prospects because it tells nothing of your character". Use your brain, a 16 year old is more than smart enough to know that destroying property and assulting people is wrong. There is no way for a company to know who you are now or your future. Everyone lies in interviews and puts up a front. But your past is very telling of your character. Conduct yourself in a respectful manner and no company will really care about your political views. Be an A hole and get treated like an A hole. Who woulda guessed

Doing things in public like these protestor are doing or what they are posting online PUBLIC! According to the law anything you do IN PUBLIC is fair game. You do not have the right to privacy IN PUBLIC!

They got tagged as rogue agents, per IASC. Got booked in the system then released to track.

You don't have an expectation to a right of privacy when you are acting out in public. That would infringe on the freedom of the press & the 1A. Employers have the right to hide who they want & why they want.

Dude this was infuriating to watch. The entire time Oleary was talking about people who are committing crimes, and the entire time Asmond was talking about people who are just peacefully protesting. If you're occupying buildings and stopping schools from functioning then hell ya that's a crime and I would not want to hire those people, but Asmon keeps ratcheting that up to 11 and saying that oh this means that anyone who peacefully and legally protests anything isn't going to be able to get a job, which IS NOT what oleary was talking about at all. oleary was talking about violent criminals who fight with police and occupy private property. Companies aren't going to not hire people just because they peacefully went to a legal protest, well, maybe they might, but that's not what oleary was describing.

Come one no one want to work with people who have violent behavior and anger issues

As someone who once made a massive mistake that ruined his life for years I can speak with some experience. Depending on the crime you commit if you haven't committed another crime in 8+ years typically companies hire you and it doesn't usually show up on a background check and as long as you are honest about it even if your background check comes back clean most companies respect that. However, I think an eight year waiting period is way to much and it should be lessened to at least one or two years.

Internet is a public space, and ISP companies in the US are allowed to sell your data. If it does not already exist then companies can soon get a profile of you that includes all your "hidden" online accounts.

15:30 first, let's clarify,. the corporate guy was only talking about things like fighting with the police, not simply participating in the protest. This means people can still express themselves, just NOT in violent ways (fighting cops, pushing around others, showing hostility etc.) if they still want that employment opportunity

The argument that a company shouldn't be allowed to take a person's private activities into considering when hiring is an odd one. If a company has three applicants of equal merit where one is a mellow person who enjoys fishing, one is a rabid activist and one is a loon with anger issues the company should be allowed to choose the fishing enjoyer in order to avoid workplace issues. Why should a company be forced to hire crazy people?

There's no reason to be absolutist about 'hiring criminals'. Lots of these larger corporations are talking about taking college students for lucrative, highly desirable positions at major corporations. These posts are highly competitive, and there's no reason why they shouldn't take the candidate they think is going to be best fit, which is likely to be someone who doesn't get up in arms over causes like this or commit criminal actions. Does this mean these people are unhirable? No, but it does mean that their actions will have direct impact on their careers, which is entirely fair.

Is ExxonMobil guy gonna act like Exxon has never threatened anybody

asmon should hire those protesters to build his pcs lol

Companies check social media when hiring, if you are protesting then you are likely tweeting, IGing and redditing. That's a bigger danger to your future employment.

Oh Asmon, it's worse than that. In the last 4 years I've been terminated for denying being discriminated against during the mask mandate at one company and terminated for being a conservative, where the company tried to frame me because they couldn't fire me for my political beliefs which i wasn't even outspoken about. Now, I can't get a job and I'm not even a criminal. It's already happening. I've been unemployed for a year because I live in Oregon and I'm a conservative white male in Oregon. A revolution is coming.

Asmond hires plumbers to fix his electrical and electricians to fix his plumbing, background history doesn’t matter to him. “If you don’t wanna be subject to getting your parses checked, don’t join a guild who requires performance - guilds have the right to play how they want and invite who they deem a good fit” Also asmond “companies shouldn’t have access to ----- before they invite you in” hehe

Asmon should hire the protesters to clean his house.

25:30 huge disagree. Being released from jail does not mean that they are no longer a threat to society.

They shouldn’t be able to fire you for social media posts.

Ppl do have a right to protest. Just like a right to bear arms

i was watching the UCLA protest breakup stream, wasn't Asmon pretty much yelling FAFO? well this is the finding out part what did he expect would happen lol seems like kinda a switch of opinion

I also love the news channel for putting up a person to debate "their lives shouldn't be upended because of camera footage" while playing that footage behind her. A real slap on the forehead moment.

Some companies do credit checks now as part of their hiring process. The way they see it is that if you are heavy in debt, you are more likely to steal or do some shady stuff.

Where I live ( Belgium ) we have something called a convection register. evreytime in your live you have to appear in front of a judge and get convicted it goes on your register. companies in Belgium can ask for a print out of this register when they are hiring people. not all of them do it but for like Chemical plants, powerplants etc. then if you have been a good boy for 3 years depending on the type of conviction it gets automatically reset or you can appeal to have it reset. I think that is kind of a fair deal.

I need to buy some land in Montana and become a hermit in the woods.

These people are gonna have some real trouble finding jobs now with all these stalker companies watching

"If theyre dangerous they should still be locked up" says the guy who has never lived in a bail reform state where theyre releasing people who are violent until trial.

person credit score already exists. It is your D&I score. Some bank are already turning down loans to people with bad scores.

Actions have consequences. And if the consequence is being unemployable, and by this age you should know this, and you STILL take part. That's on you. No one else.

There is no right to privacy to those in public, especially those obstructing the public.

i saw this same thing back when social media started to get going, companies looking into your presence on the platforms... this was 20 years ago. hot takes, being out of pocket, poor decision making etc they try to find. how young people haven't figured out the game in this regards is disheartening. also lets not forget some of these people were holding people hostage and not letting them leave. 20 years old or not, you know you can't do that... effing crazy

A more relatable example than what Asmon gave: Say a company you wanted to work for, hates Asmon's political views, and say they do a background check on your view history and found you watch Asmon videos and chooses not to hire you because of that. Would that be fair? of course not! Can it be done? That's the scary part he's talking about!!

"Dumb and Dumber" has never been more relevant and should be aired in every school.

Damn, seconds into the video, and Asmongold is the pot calling the kettle black lmao

Basically the answer to all of this is "It completely is dependent on the situation".

I have been told that freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences! My response is always That’s a long way from “While I disagree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say so”

What people do in their off time is insight into character and ethics. Ignore those qualities as an employer at your own risk. Everyone hired is a potential risk to the company, there is no right to employment and employers should only hire the best and most qualified.

" The rewards of tolerance are treachery and betrayal " Never has a quote been more accurate to today's political climate

Someone that stole multiple times but “paid debt to society” by taking a trip to jail or getting a citation Doesn’t deserve a job in my opinion.

So… if we're always representing the company then they're gonna need to do away with hourly pay and pay me for every waking hour of the day.

This push to turn the vast complexity of an individual into nothing more than fucking "brand" is a huge fucking problem.

Another problem is: Punishments are getting too lax. So either they get marked or they need to stay in jail longer

There are companies rn that can deep dive into your web history and find out if you've been involved in things they find unsavory. They've been doing it for years and they don't need AI for it.

Not only that, but "Mr. Wonderful" is the last person I would ever make a deal with after learning about his history.

This game changed my life.