Sharp & Mark of Soft White Underbelly Get Emotional & Come Full Circle 

0:45 - Sharp gets emotional while introducing Mark 1:26 - Mark explains how his background in photography led to doing Soft White Underbelly (SWU) 2:07 - First step toward SWU was a book of portraits of random people across the country called “Created Equal” 3:53 - Walking away from making a lot of money in advertising to do SWU 4:48 - Buying a studio in the middle of Skid Row to take portraits of homeless people 5:24 - Finding his calling after doing his first interview with a heroin addict name Caroline 6:55 - Not revealing how much he pays interview subjects for their interviews 7:50 - Mark has never done any drugs, barely even drinks. 8:44 - Being fascinated with the human struggle. Interview subjects are extreme cases. 9:15 - Paying it forward to others as a thank you to his parents. Dealing with the loss of his mom *EMOTIONAL MOMENT*. SWU is a way to show the importance of parenting 11:47 - Kids know when something is wrong. Being open with his kids about divorce 13:25 - The possibility of working it out with his ex-wife 15:22 - Being single and having feelings for some of the people he interviews 16:26 - Mark tells the story of being particularly captivated by one interview subject until she ghosted him 20:18 - Sharing the most important lesson he learned from ‘Course of Miracles’: everything is an act of love or fear 21:26 - Trying to pinpoint what about this one girl that captivated him so much 22:22 - Craziest interview Mark ever did was with James the r*pist, who r*ped his mom, killed a prostitute, and later killed sex offenders on Skid Row 25:35 - Sharp is one of the most popular people on SWU 26:05 - One of the craziest videos on SWU is the Whittakers, inbred family in West Virginia. Being confronted with a shotgun. 31:25 - The Whittakers’ parents were either cousins or siblings. Plus environmental effect from coal 33:10 - Interacting with Ray, the Whittaker brother who barks like a dog 34:24 - Explaining issues with interview subject Exotic after her interview blew up. 38:33 - Exotic had two pimps names tattooed on her face. 39:30 - Mark says Sharp is doing a great job at redefining what it means to be a pimp 40:33 - Mark confirms that Sharp asked him to take his SWU video down. Sharp is forever grateful and wants to have Mark around more 41:21 - Why Mark had to end up cutting Exotic off. 42:46 - Finding out he was being hustled by finding a bunch of s*x toys in Exotic’s apartment 45:51 - Mark paid Exotic and her pimp a lot of money to do a SWU interview about how they hustled him 46:30 - People in certain parts of the country won’t accept money for their interviews 47:38 - The people in Appalachia are the happiest people Mark’s ever met 48:48 - It takes a lot of courage to do an interview on SWU 49:15 - The Whittakers understand that Mark’s videos have made them famous. Going back to shoot another video

For Sharp to take his glasses off and look at Mark in the eye shows how much respect he has for him. Such a great interview.

I’ve grown to love the dynamic between these two. Two COMPLETELY different people who’ve developed a friendship based on acceptance & a understanding of each other / or each other’s differences. Imagine if everyone could do that with one another.

This is proof that what Mark is doing is iconic! He is really out there changing lives 🥲 Love this duo

I’ve seen Mark get super emotional about his parents on more than one interview. He truly is a testament to their nurturing. Mark hit the nail on the head (absolutely) when he said parenting matters - it ALL starts there.

Mark’s parents would be so proud of him. Philanthropic , non-judgmental, respectful and so kind. The world needs more people like him.

He hit it on the head …how CRUCIAL GOOD PARENTING and how important it is for kids to feel they are loved, safe, and worthy human beings

know about sharp thru mark and their connection always seemed so organic. love this for sharp and mark. both beautiful ppl who deserve to share that space. shoutout to both mark and adam for giving this man a platform to shine

This is one of the best interviews No Jumper’s had. Sharp’s always bringing good work, but there’s genuine respect here. Mark’s work is brilliant, and the two of them together make for a substantive interview.

Mark has slowly become somewhat of an idol to me....the man just secretes humanity and is what everyone should be....the world would be a better place with 20 marks.... He sees people for people and realizes not much differs and we're all shaped by our story

Protect Mark at costs!!! He's nothing but a good person who means well and has a message for the world by showcasing people who would otherwise never get a chance to speak or tell their stories.

9 minutes in and I’m in tears. Man, I love Mark’s heart. I wish everyone had the same empathy and compassion. Just an incredible specimen of a human being.

You guys are fucking captivating as hell! Two real guys who had completely different upbringings and lives come together for these amazing talks of real shit! So awesome!

This shows sharp show respect to people that he actually respects! People shit on sharp all the time for being confrontational but in reality he’s just being real

Holy shit... Sharp actually really respects this man... This is the first time i've ever seen sharp let someone talk lmao

I could listen to Mark talking all day long. He is such a rare soul. Kind, curious, genuine, thoughtful, friendly, generous, thick skinned but not bitter...such a rarity. We need more interviews like this! Mark even brought out the best in Sharp imo. They clearly have alot of respect between them and you never see Sharp talking to someone he doesnt have to school in some way.

It’s amazing to see Mark on the other side of the camera and see him in a vulnerable state talking about his life. I love the work he does. He seems like a very genuine guy and you can tell the work he does is real, raw, and he just loves to help people.

Wow. This might be a Top 10 No Jumper Interview PERIOD. The connection and respect y'all have for each other showed through in this video. Respect

The way you(Sharp), took your glasses off as a sign of respect actually makes me feel enormous respect towards you. This man has been making sense in unfortunate peoples life.

The respect in the tone of voice sharp uses really tells you everything you have to know about the relationship and it’s worth to him. This is the sharp I love

It's cool to see Sharp come up from one of Marks videos and then to go and pay respect back. You can tell Sharp truly appreciates Mark for everything that he's done for him.

OMG to see Mark on the other side of the camera, and cry, is EVERYTHING. I truly love and respect what he does. I watch his videos every single day, and they help me keep me clean. I can never forget where I came from or where I could end up if I relapsed, by watching SWU. Mark truly cares about these people. Most just consider them lost causes. I will always respect him and what he does. Thank you so much for this interview!

This must have been such a surreal moment for Sharp. He has come to so far in such a short amount of time. Shout out to Mark and Adam for seeing the potential in Sharp🙌

Sharp absolutely killed it with this interview he asked mark questions that that I would have never thought of wanting to know more of it was just a remarkable interview✨ loved the story of mark and the girl he met

I love how two people from two totally different worlds can connect and talk like this! More people need to be like Mark!

SWU is one of the most important channels on YT. Heartbreaking, yes - brutal, yes - but carefully nurtured by Mark to communicate the stories of those who are silent.

When I think of Sharp, this statement always comes to mind: "I'm glad you're alive the same time as me." It always stuck with me. Beautiful.

I just met Marc last week doing interviews at the players ball in San Diego. I respect the grind glad we crossed paths

I liked his answer when he said he's fascinated by the human struggle.. And to see him get emotional about his mom was beautiful... Respect...

This interview is absolutely riveting. Mark will go down in history as one of the most influential people of our time. More importantly he is able to provide a platform that allows health professionals an opportunity to see REAL life struggle and the effects it has on a human being. But most importantly it gives us the ability to see reality for many unfortunate individuals and the opportunity to try and improve the tools and system we live in to help them.

Mark needs to be on Joe Rogan, I've heard Joe mention that he's binged hours of Soft white underbelly, Mark is such a genuine and beautiful soul.

Mark is gonna go down as the GodFather of Self Made Docs…. Dude is way ahead of his time… Such a great, and humble guy. Glad i get to watch this.

So glad to see this one, and Sharp acknowledges it as “coming full circle.” You can tell the respect is there between them, and there’s something beautiful about people coming together from different walks of life, expressing themselves in the moment. Sharing stories, their life experiences, similarities & differences, and discussing the human condition. Great episode. Grateful for it.

Sharp returning the love! I love this guy best addition to No Jumper in a minute.

It touched my soul the way Mark consistently referred to each of the Whitakers by their first names. He sees them as not just subjects or lowly creatures, but fellow humans like himself. He cares for them. Mark you said you not a religious dude, but you are a man of God.

It’s nice to finally see mark being the one interviewed; I’ve been dying to hear his back story

Best interview ever, I truly love the brotherly bond between you two. This is the first time I got to see Mark up close and personal, great work Sharp. Much respect 💪🏿

I really appreciate this moment, sharp seems so humbled almost like he’s talking to his mentor or brother. “Blades sharpen blades” 🖤

No cap , I genuinely love Sharp' s personality. This was a different kind of episode away from the random IG girls. He def. brought it full circle with Mark and as a photographer myself...he inspired me too with his outlook

Not even 10min in and I bawled my eyes out. When he mentioned he does this to show how important parenting is I lost it because it’s so true!! And I had a rough bring up and I’ve made it my life’s mission to be a great mother the mother I wish I had!! It’s so important. OUR CHILDREN OUR THE FUTURE! Please remember these innocent babies are WHATS MOST IMPORTANT!❤❤❤❤

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE seeing mark on the other side of the interview seeing his emotions and allat just shows everyone deals w their own shit respects 10:31

SWU seriously opened my eyes to that side of society! There will not be another. this guy really gave us perspective from a side most of us will not experience or see in our lives. I’ve been on the shit end of the stick as a child, but the stories he reveals to us just makes me appreciate everything I had even if it wasn’t much.

Sharp is the best addition that no jumper has ever had. He is a naturally talented interviewer and is humble when he needs to be. God bless this man!!

Soft White Underbelly was how I discovered Sharp's story...incredible. Sharp don't take his shades off for nobody. You know he has respect for Mark because those shades are on the table. This is great !!

I remember even back then, when Mark first interviewed Sharp, Sharp flipped the script on Mark a couple of times, asking him questions rather than answering them. Love Sharp for his personality and ways that I can relate to and Mark for his awesome interviews. He gives these people trapped in the gutter a voice and an optional way to get out. They both have something that I personally think can't be duplicated. Love you both!

This is the podcast collaboration that The Culture didn’t know it NEEDED. Real conversations like this is what podcasting is all about ! 👏

I’ve been hard on sharp when he does the yelling/screaming yet admittedly entertaining interviews …. But he truly killed it here… fantastic interviewing skills here. And now i kinda see that sharps demeanor toward the guest has everything to do with whether he respects that person. First thing I noticed he had his glasses off for this interview which is obviously a sign of respect. Anyway, I saw sharp’s heart and talent in this interview. Up until now I just saw him as a witty dude who yells a lot.

Mark is a living tribute to his parents and highest honor to his mother’s memory with this work.

It’s absolutely amazing how the stars aligned and gave us these two together on RU-vid. God bless both of them.

"sometimes you just gotta accept that you dont know the truth" -Mark ....i needed to hear those words just now. Thank you

Mark is one of the most genuine people I’ve ever seen. He really has a gift and is showing the world a different perspective of so many human lives.

Kinda always thought Sharp came off just a bit too tough, but this showed he actually does have respect and humbleness within him. Pure real talk between these two, loved every second of it. Mark is gold indeed, I always thought he puts himself in dangerous situations to get the job done, I just hope God blesses him all the time... I know he does.

To see Mark open up like his guests do on soft white underbelly is so great to see. It’s nice to know the person that does all these amazing interviews is just as human as the rest of us that love his content so much

I remember when I first saw Sharp on Soft White Underbelly I knew he was a different typa brotha✊🏽💯

I learned about Sharp from Soft White Underbelly and now to see the evolution from then to now, almost brought a tear to my eye. Salute to you Sharp, keep going playa ✊🏽

I always enjoy Mark's videos and stories. He's brought so much to light about the human spirit and struggle that many of us would never know anything about. Thank you Mark!!!

Real recognizes real. What a couple of wonderful human beings. Mistakes made, lessons learned, and love shared. Respect to both of these men for all they have overcome and all they continue to share with the world. Blessings!

Been watching Marks show since it's origin. He has the eyes to see and the heart to understand the plight of the lost. My parents were troubled, but I'm grateful when I see these stories..

Mark is being interviewed by Sharp. It's full circle! I appreciate Mark's amazing work. It's inspiring to watch so many lives being changed for the better. I expected Whittaker family to be exploited but it was wholesome. Keep up the good work! Oh wow. It's crazy that James went to the police and basically confessed.

I love how protective Sharp is over Mark. Two completely different individuals who managed to find a friendship and its beautiful. @softwhiteunderbelly is a prime example of having no judgements and allowing people to be who they are. 😊

This is one of my most favorite interviews ever. These two guys couldn’t be any more different but the respect they show to each other is inspiring

Daaaamn that's crazy that Sharp wanted his first video with Mark to be taken down days after it dropped and Mark convinced him not to, and then sharp saying "You were fucking right". Those interviews that Mark did with Sharp inspired me a lot in my character and the way I dress and it made me watch the church on a sunday show with Sharp because it's motivational, inspirational and it's all about spreading mental health. It's crazy that a video that Sharp didn't really wanted because he felt regret and even offered to payback for it to be taken down, took him to his evolution where now he is inspiring a lot of people out here such as myself with these topics about bettering yourself and being a motivation to your peers. Mark and Sharp did something legendary with those videos, they inspired a lot of people across the globe. and Yes as different as it sounds, Sharp's philosophy inspired me to always keep my house clean and have discipline in myself.

I love how respectful Sharp was during this interview.

Been watching SWUB for a while and the thing that first drew me to it, and still keeps me watching, is how you can hear the compassion in Mike's voice during the interviews and he always treats the folks with respect. No matter how disheveled or shady the guest is, he always talks to the with respect, humility and gets then talking.

Mark is what I consider an incredible human. He has all of the traits, and flaws, that make a great human. He has empathy (very important), he's a thinker and also considerate. I can tell you now that he's a special one and you don't meet these people every day. Very rewarding to me as a viewer. Be good people, guide and protect your kids. They are the future!

Mark is a gift to the universe. His ability to let other people tell their stories is unparalleled. He knows when to shut up and listen and knows when there is that lull in conversation to ask a pertinent question. He is the Jedi master of his craft.

Sharp you do good interviews when you let people tell their stories without interrupting them. This was good

Mark has the kindness soul. It’s tough loosing a parent. She would be so so proud of you!

I can tell how much Sharp really appreciates, admires, and respects Mark by watching this interview. He speaks to him with a reverence I've never seen out of him with any other guest. It's cool to see that side of him.

When you realize that there's people all over the country going through the same struggles of the people that Mark interview, your sympathy meter works better... especially if you're one of those people who's been through it. Such as myself. Salute to Sharp n Mark for this

Mark is like the Mr. Rodgers for adults. SWU is one of my favorite RU-vid channels. He has some of the most powerful interviews and indepth views of life and it's experiences.

i love Mark’s style and the way he talks and the way he is, he is almost perfect. even what he does is amazing he created an awareness channel and all those people he finds shows that he works so hard for what he does and he cares so much for everyone, i love him!❤🥰😇😻

the most full circle shit ever, great podcast! we need more from you 2 kings again

Mark has done so much giving a voice to so many people who have been rejected from society. He is a true hero in my books! Love it!!

Mark is just a wholesome good man , an angel sent down to help (so many) people that are in need. Thank you Mark! Another awesome interview! A true American Hero!

I'm here for Mark. His humility and straight shooting compassion is truly inspirational. He is what he is without trying. Mad respect.

Here to show my support to both Sharp and Mark, God bless you both.

Loved how Mark discussed the impact that parenting has on a child's future. The first ten years mean so much. Gives the child the imprint they will carry. Giving them that acceptance and unconditional love and sense of stability and safety. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

My goodness! What an interview! 50 minutes went by so fast, I swear I could sit and listen to them talk all day. Thank you Mark for introducing us to Sharp (the greatest) and thank you Adam for bringing Sharp into the spotlight! I’ve become addicted to this podcast, keep up the good work everyone. And yes, Sharp, we need more conversations with Mark 👌🏼

He said he does what he does so one day people can see how important parenting is. Wow shit touch me. This guy has a huge heart and is a people’s person. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 RIP to his mom.

Sharp gone entertain the people and match your energy in these interviews. He treats people how they treat themselves. We’ve seen how the conversations go when the person being interviewed doesn’t respect themselves.

Sharp has really grown. I believe Mark has a lot to do with that. This has brought me to tears. Wow Mark got so emotional over his mother’s death. MARK YOU ARE SUCH A GIFT TO ALL OF US.

I love the way mark looks at sharp at the end of his sharp tank interview it’s like he’s in awe. I can tell he is proud of sharpie. Also when mark spoke on his parents 🥺 I wanted to cry you can see he is still grieving the lose of his mother it’s rare to hear people speak highly of their parents

You are good people Mark. Thanks for what you do.

For the algorithm. Glad to see Sharps story come full circle. It’s a beautiful thing. I know Mark is proud!

We need more of Sharp having deep conversations with fascinating guests - no need to keep him on the same “you aren’t a good hustler” debates. He’s too well spoken and too interesting to keep stuck in that lane.

I'm like ten minutes in and im already blown away by Marks capacity to be more open in this interview about his own life, and Sharp's capacity to connect and draw this out. Already my favorite interview I've seen in a good minute. Counting lots of marks that I watch almost daily.

Mark hands down has the best documentaries Ive ever seen. He shows the world how to open there hearts to what so many find taboo. He is literally changing the world and helping people understand that we are all human. We all need love. Ive learned to appreciate my life more, and have more compassion towards others. What an incredible human being.

Sharp CONGRATULATIONS!!!! From that first interview a few years ago to now and you get to talk to your friend on your show. Have a genuine conversation and show each other some love. Dope dope moment. The respect you both have for each as men is definitely there. This full circle moment has to be surreal for both of you

Dude this is trippy, I found out about sharp on Nojumper then went to marks channel for his sharp interview and stayed for all his other pimp interviews then learned that’s where sharp actually started and now he’s on no jumper 🤯 🤯

These guys are best friends for life. You can feel the connection Mark has with Sharp, deep mutual respect.

I love Mark. He does so much to help people. He's inspiring. I wish there were more people out there like him because the world would be a better place. Thanks for interviewing him for once. It's cool to see him on camera. I also like that Sharp has his own show. It's cool.

It's crazy how they've come full circle. Such a dope episode. Mark must be proud of what his video did for Sharp.

The Best Part is when Mark discusses Parenting and how important it is my heart melted when Mark said his mom died and his show is a Thank You to her.

Wow Sharp. This is a full circle moment. Mark must be so proud of your success. Mark is so real and has made us all more empathetic. This was by far your best interview. Ps. You are helping them by listening and letting them vent. That is everything!

Sharp won me with this interview , he real . Keep doing these yo

The raw emotion & respect in this video speaks volumes. This is quality content 🔥

9:26 My mom recently passed away unexpectedly and this part made me cry not only because I miss her so constantly everyday. But because she was the best mom and I was so lucky to have her unconditional love & friendship. This was so entertaining.

This interview was phenomenal … and it’s even crazier to think No Jumper brought me to Sharp, who brought us to Mark who brought Sharp to No Jumper 🚀 When the stars align its a beautiful thing 👌🏼

Lmao sharp funny af he loved when Mark talked about picking that girl up @17:30 his ass got hype 😂