Shashi Tharoor vs J Sai Deepak | Nationalism | Colonialism | Hindutva | Savarkar |  

Most underrated comment... Good one bro

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This is what called a real debate, rest are modi puja debates

​@@shivsagarsingh8315talking facts and debating with a linderandu is like telling a lion be a herbivore

​@@matheshsreenivasan6311put some burnol in ur butt😂😂

Tell him not to use western Abrahamics concepts like civilization assimilation bla bla and use some sanskritam dharmik terms, oh wait root of Sanskrit words and European words are same

@@nvspraneeth901 it makes sense to use the words that most people understand and how the society largely is

Very true. I am always happy and love to listen J Sai Deepak. Respect him a lot.

That's because European are our distant Cousins. The people of the South says that Aryans invaded and destroyed the Indus Valley Civilisations which is not True........If India was inhabited by the Original Natives whom they call Dravidians then it was them who gave Birth to Aryans when they Invaded and killed all the Male Population of Eastern and Central Europe. There has been Mass Grave of European Men found in the Eastern Europe. They now claim that the Europe was Invaded by a Barbaric Tribe who came from the East around 4500 to 5000 years ago. Guess who that tribesmen were.........they were Indians who migrated to the Central Asia. It is their Genes which was passed on to the Present day Europeans when they took European Females captives and slaves. That's why our Genes match.

Its the same venom .. in a forced deprecated sophistication@ J S Deepak

Filtered intellectual hypocrisy Sickular brand CONGRESS stamp

Hindus were not the first to misbehave because it's not in our ethos. Whereas non sanatanis have itch to do it when they are majority to impose their will on hindus because it's part of their religious duty. Tharoor type people have no guts to speak about that and all his gyan is reserved for hindus because we will rarely carry it to violence while peacefuls will trash him as well as his ideas.

Yuk

Exactly my thoughts responsibility in reprimanding Hindus won't come out to save the Hindus from harms way

You are funny guy

😂 same 😄

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You are fooling yourself

​@@EmJack_Gamingdon't discourage people, bro.

Obviously you can improve knowledge, wisdom and language skills, being honest and courageous and speaking and analysing skills. All the best 💯

Never thought I'd see tharoor nervous in a debate.

@@akashsinha2880 yea exactly

Think opposite

Tharoor? Gentlemen? Heard of Sunanda Tharoor?

@@deepika2644 i agree... I shouldnt have called him a gentleman! Yes I've heard of her

Both are nonliving objects

@@JR-ee4xf Christian boi or muslim boi or a liberandu boi wouldn't understand. So move along

Nope, they're all Indian in nature, and are equally Indian

@@somakun1806 Only ones blinded by faith do

@@JR-ee4xf coming from a blind foool who believes in flying horse or that a naked man crucified to a cross is messenger of God 🤣

Murti puja is not priceless, it is senseless

@@MJ-jf7zw apne Pardada se pucho Bhai 🙏🚩

@@MJ-jf7zwoffering Namaz is senseless

@@gurie9173 Mai muslim nahi hu bhai. What is the sense in worshipping material objects? God our Creator is spirit so worship God in spirit

@@GUJRATI001. Aur tumne jo kaha usko genetic fallacy kehte hai. Sabke pardada convert hue the at some point or the other. Apke pardada logon ne vedic logon ke dharam ko kab apnaya tha kabhi socha kabhi. Anyway its not relevant. Nobody is forced nowadays. Everybody has a choice so follow the truth don't just conform to society.

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​@@RoshanAntonyTauroNo bro, intelligent people should be in both power and in opposition. A strong and abled opposition will only force government to do their work better.

They would just debate until we're all dead. No action, just talk.

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not two ,,here is only one---- its sai

Hinduism is not a religion in today's context it is a philosophy, cultural traditions which differ largely among hindus themselves.... Religion is the one that follows god and his words that are present in the scriptures....80 percent hindus don't even read scriptures....And religions don't reform because they are god's words,only god change his words....but yes humans, cultures can reform....

Very very well stated🙏

In India Appeasement is ONE RELIGION FOR MANY SICKULAR PARTIES MEDIA MAFIA PRINT AND AIR

@@RajaRam-xx1kp this how people destroy ..offcaurse there are many bindings with hinduism, we destroy if by using simple word..hinduism is not a religion, it way of life ..and blaa blaa blaa what not..

I just don't understand what Shashi Tharoor agrees with and what he doesn't agree with 😂😁😂

Glad to see Mallu Christians (who have believed they are better than Hindus since they are are going to be ‘saved’ by a father in heaven while we are roasted in oil vats in hell) finally come around and recognize that there is something valuable from which they have run away.

​@@ived7138 Oo personally I don't believe any holy father saves anyone, how you treat people around you pretty much seals your fate unfortunately we both very well know whr you are going ;)

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@@ived7138 not all are like that

But being hindu is more of a nationality than religion u calling yourself as indian is both same!!

You'll be blown by everyone once you come to know that Media is controlled by Leftists and they repeat the lies to entire generations.

Best part of the debate at 57:27 mark! Sai Deepak does have a fresh and vibrant mind, however his arguments are tricking people already on the edge in favor of confirmation bias. To say that there is no need for a constitution to uphold minorities right, because it is embedded in "our civilization" is the same as saying there is no need for a child abuse or spousal abuse law, because it is embedded in "our civilization" or our faith. Secondly, promoting that we will accept you as long as you don't force yourself on me is a direct stab at muslims. However there again, those who forced themselves on you were not mere immigrants (like zoroastrians or Jews), they were conquerers from the East. That certainly put them in a position to make some changes around, mostly resulting in a synergy, though there were exceptions. BUT the point is that no Indian Muslim living in India, after 1947 has wished to or dared to impose upon the Hindu majority. On the contrary, it is the militant Hindutva who is trying to impose upon them, ever more aggressively. But like I said, confirmation bias plays a key role here for an average person to assess this sincerely.

@@mubeenalam are u a fucking fool ??? In india muslims are following special status and that much benefit that they are not even getting in saudi arabia , India is like heaven for muslims and best place for any muslim wherever in world , Indian muslims have special status in constitution of india , While hindus are second class citizen Here i explain why SECULARISM in the Indian context would mean maintaining equidistance from all religions. Unfortunately, that equidistance never happened. CAN YOU ANSWER ME WHY THESE RULES SINCE INDIA IS A SECULAR COUNTRY . How could Indian courts recognise Sharia-based Muslim Personal Law while claiming to be secular? How could Central and State governments take over the management of Hindu temples if they were secular? How could a secular government provide financial assistance to educational institutions run by religious organisations? How could a secular government codify and modify Hindu personal law? How would the government extend the existing caste-based reservations to minority religions if it were secular? why hindus cannot have their religious schools while other religion have their schools and also get funds from govt ? "TO be secular in the truest sense of the word, the Indian context should have to equidistant from religion And this never happened because of giving unequal rights to different religions ". so this is not secularism To Giving a religion( muslims) far more rights than other religion ( hindus ) for their political party's own benefit of vote politics . And islam is not that minority they are 20 percent of country . " It would be better to declare india an islamic country If they are going to increase their rights for islamists " . Yes ,It is true that indian civilization has nourished people from other places and respected their faith and culture , And history is its proof they can be anyone as jews or christians or parsis( zorostrian) or tibetians . But they also lived here very peacefully with us ,and we have been respecting to each other mutually and will have . There is no need to uplift any law ,because there are already many laws for them . As per secularism ,every religion should have equal rights ,he is doing his job to not to make india islamic nation . Sai deepak is doing his job very much greater for the sake of country

J Sai deepak is hidden sanghi!! He is backing revenge based on lies, same as Bjp Rss claims

@@Ahmed-vw3iw LOL, Sai Deepak is telling the truth.. The history we read is distorted to appease Muslims by showing Mughals in good light. You cannot understand this because you're brainwashed by your own religion.

talk to 100 hindus get 100 definition. You cant be absolute in what you believe- some says its dharm, some way of life som etc. It should enlighten one to read their sanatan dharm on their own and refer various books- one think is sure if you are rational, logical and honest you would surely question your beliefs and the foundation of it. PS: It is not to contempt you but to trigger you what is being right and what is wrong

Learn to write the spelling of 'Dharma' correctly first, before commenting on Hindutva.

@@hamidmalik7754 That's the beauty of Hinduism, that it promotes diversity in thinking. It actually promotes "if you are rational, logical and honest you would surely question your beliefs and the foundation". It's not a dogmatic religion like Abrahamic religions where only one thinking or one book is to be followed. You can even question God or the rituals without committing Blasphemy.

@@ಭಾರತೀಯ_ನಾಗರಿಕ rather than focusing on substance talking about mere spelling mistakes. Don't turn your eye blind when there are questions.

@@Channel-y5y you can also question in Islam, I hope you study Islam through Islamic scriptures not through media. You will realize that.

He's a legend

That is not true, everyone knows the value of Kohinoor. Murtis are valuable too.

What's the value of moorti? No one cares the moorti but the whole world wants Kohinoor..

@@50subscriberswithonlycomme69 u r not whole world

That might be true for some, but for many, all artifacts stolen from India equally Indian.

Political point !!! He was woffling thinking his flowery english would carry the day. Shashi Tharoor was a disaster. Thank God.

Yes

Rather Sai Deepak was gradually crumbling from his decency stance while Tharoor maintained his stance with elegance......

@@shakeelroowala3981Yes i also felt Shashi Tharoor ji kept his cool But Sai dipak ji lost his cool in the end though he was asking right questions 😀😀😀

@@shakeelroowala3981 u can make achar of that elegance, we're here fighting for our sacred civilization. We're angry at the gross distortion and misrepresentation of our traditions, icons, rituals, sacred texts, history, etc. and it's our right to be angry, that shows our passion and seriousness towards our cause.

Finally Shahi tharoor is convinced about the word SECULARISM

The raucous applause of people to Sai Deepak's pointed questions, perhaps forced Tharoor to recant on the Congressi holy- grail of secularism. For a change, I felt pity for Tharoor, the politician and the positions that he is compelled to take. Had he not been a Kerala "strongman", I am sure that he would have been in the BJP by now, in spite of a lot of people arguing about his "intellectual fit" in a "Congress ecosystem" rather than the BJP. No one expected Swamy or Arif Mohd Khan to join the BJP, but career politicians take those decisions

@@rey1sri60 Not a convincing argument to defend Tharoor. He has had several chances to shed the Family held CONgress, but he chose to standby them and defended them. He has gone on record that only a Family member can lead the Party. This from an ‘intellectual’? Shameful.

@@gopalramanathan7062 Naah. I won't stoop as low as to defend any congressman, even ex-congressmen, until I see consistent change. For instance, it took me years to find some reason to appreciate Shehzad Poonawala, but his new anti-Congress, pain-speaking version is pretty good on the ears.

@@rey1sri60 Raucous applause? You mean those scattered claps now and then? Sounded like not more than three guys.

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And shamelessly he has admitted he will use ‘Hindu’ name only to criticise them but will never take others atrocities to task. Minority appeasement is all that he is prepared to indulge in. A few more Sai Deepaks and soon Tharoor and his elks would be history 🙏🏼

It was so telling that Shashi Tharoor had zilch to say about Hindu genocide in Kashmir directly or violence against Hindus after the elections in West Bengal. His silence is very telling indeed!

@@juinatu8392 Tharoor’s silence on atrocities committed on Hindus and the millions killed in Bharath by the invading Islamists and the evangelical Christians both before August 1947 and after is indeed deafening. He is a smooth talking fraud.. he is a Hindu only in name, his mind is entirely colonised and lives in the West.

@@gopalramanathan7062 , my thoughts exactly!

@ArmanAditya Basu 😂😂😂😂oh!! really research about Sunanda Pushkar tweet to get more relevance and one open truth is how brutally he dissed the Kashmir files movie

Wonderful statement. So true.

@ArmanAditya Basu it's ok Not everybody hate the shit Some like it also

@ArmanAditya Basu bengalis opinion doesn't matter

@@lallulallu9294 This whole conversation is linked to all the great Bengali people who took huge strides to make Hindutva great. What are you saying. Bengalis played the most important role in Hindutva reaching the height it has achieved. Just because some Bengalis don't accept certain things makes whole Bengali community opinion less valuable.

@ArmanAditya Basu WHERE WERE YOURS NAUTANKI WHEN IN DIRECT ACTION DAY BENGALI HINDUS IN KOLKATA AND ALL OVER BENGALS WERE KILLED ?TEN THOUSANDS OF BENGALI HINDUS WERE KILLED WITHOUT ANY RESISTANCE...UNTIL GOPAL PATHA AND OTHER HEROES TOOK THE LEAD AND UNITED HINDUS TOOK WEAPONS FROM HINDU MAHA SHABA AND SAVED YOUR ANCESTORS AND MINE...WHERE WERE YOU THEN??? OHHH ..YOU WERE NOT YET BORN ...AND YOUU WOULDNT HAVE BORNED IF PEOPLE LIKE GOPAL PATHA AND OTHER TRUE AND COURAGEOUS HINDUS DIDNT SAVED YOUR ANCESTORS SORRY ASS...SO BRO YOU ARE BORN BECAUSE OF HINDUTWA...BE GREATFULL YOU SELFISH SO CALLED INTELLECTUAL..THEY PROVIDED THE LUXURY OF LIFE AND BEING BORN TO YOU ... AND DO READ ABOUT GOPAL PATHA..IF YOU CALL YOURSELF BENGALI. OR HINDU WHATEVER.

Like give me 30 sec Naveeka......😀😀😀

No he didn’t. He is just a Ben Shapiro of India. He just talks fast.

@@chandlerminh6230 not just fast , having much more factual , logical data

@@ratikantamahapatra8847 now rahul just me 10 seconds more.

@@chandlerminh6230 probably you didn't follow the content

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and so what if it was older?

@@ashwinleonard he is talking about the factual error and the narrative building thereupon.. You invited yourself to the table for its evaluation...

@@jd38021 Sashi's tryst is not against the keyword "Hindutva" and who invented it. Rather its ideology as propagated by Savarkar, that he is against. And that ideology is what the book speaks against. Saying the term was coined by someonelse is not saying anything about the logic and belief system critiqued in Tharoors book. If you believe that 'Hindutva' as spread by RSS or BJP is any different from Savarkars, then please listen to people like Tejaswi Surya, Arjun Sampath, etc.. They, their ideology, and publicly perceived belief system exactly mirrors Savarkars.

@@jd38021 (contd.) its similar to JSD critiquing Pythagoras on his theorem, but simple states that the term 'triangle' was discovered by someone else. So? His critique doesn't question the theoram, or logic within it, in any way. (And JSD disguises it through flowery language.)

@@ashwinleonard I guess u did not read my comment fully.. The original comment doesn't speak of the what but the when... I was merely pointing it out. As far as hindutva is concerned , I completely disagree with your selective view but that is not the point of the original comment by niloy.. So not offering myself up for debate here... Thanks

Have done the same- bought Sai Deepak's book.

Exactly

Same here

Why not read both books end-to-end, also do our own research, and then decide? Does a better author/articulator be necessarily construed to be better?

@@muralidhargrao I already finished reading Sai Deepak‘s Book. My remark is purely based on the debate they had and I thought there was underlying sarcastic humor in it. Both of them are prolific speakers and very good at articulation. I felt Shashi Tharoor underestimated Sai Deepak‘s intellect and i felt there was no proper preparation for the debate whatsoever. Having said that I am open to read the other book also👍. Thanks for your comment.

Very well said🙏🏼 Just because he could talk in the colonial master’s tongue Tharoor thought he could get away with it. Not for long. Sri Sai Deepak has exposed him and put him in his place 🙏🏼

@@RajKGajjela Now even that has been sorted out 😜

@@gopalramanathan7062 He cant get away with convenient, selective quoting anymore.

But People of Thiruvanathapuram.. Love him.

J. Sai Deepak is an enlightened presence. Dharma shines as him, through him, by him. Dharmo rakshati rakshatah 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

No wonder with a sheepish smile he repeatedly pleads for the purchase of his worthless work, with a scare that Sai Deepak’s book could well become a best seller 😀

Yes,, Respect for J.Sai ,this is propaganding his book than mr throors work Sharing stage with learned J Sai is made him dwarf

A politician has to bind himself within a party outlook whereas a researcher has no such constraints that's why the latter can speak freely.

It’s very difficult to sit with a group of dumbheads.

yeah, gone are the days when your English language skills were mistook for expertise. If you write a book in beautiful English but full of crap then you will get crap on your face.

22:40 Don't be just blind with your ears.

@@ScientificMyths2706 ohh man you doesn't seems to be a normal person and i heard that you have misplaced your Brian. So not being normal, go for a Knee x-ray, you might find your brain there.

he is an MP

@@ScientificMyths2706 you are cool 🤣🤣🤣🤣

​@@cookXtravelhe is mp and Sai is nothing in bjp

did he?

@@sindhusaraswathy9227 Maybe it’s beyond you …

@@MoonLight-bu9hz sorry,read Sai as Sasi...

Sai is a novice...He has a long way to go...immature with a lot of bookish knowledge thrown in...All thoughts are going to push India backward...

@@princepaul1058 Sai comes from good place he speaks for Hindustan, he may season and experience with age holding in place same morals and values. One need courage and clarity to speak up against yuppie people like Sashi Tharoor. It’s not all bookish knowledge because Indian history hardly teach any facts and reality, he does speak his own mind.

podan go-ya.

@@ashwinleonard Same to you

That's what Dr Tharoor's character is like. And if you think he is impressed by Sai Deepak's knowledge that's some kind of tall statement. I guess he sees the parallel properties of single information minced by both of them. And since I want to be on either side, i think Dr Tharoor's point was more encoded though better than what Sai made, when Sai was more talking of individual ideas on obsession with History's distortion to which I think is more like regaining the pride of the history and discarding the idea of evolution.

​​@@eureca5451Distortion was done by colonizers and their puppets since Indian history is written by white colonizers and now people like Sai Deepak are correcting it with a new wave of India's own perspective of history.

@@eureca5451 evolution does'nt mean forgetting our history. Even Sai said that we cannnot create or get back our past , but its our duty to remember it , embrace it and try to make our present better.

@@AlokGaur-hb3vk really! just give me one practical point to justify many wrong things just to remember your past, Please don't say that Hindu haven't killed anyone in the name of God every religion did ,every religion will

@@eureca5451please show me single event when Hindus kill someone in the name of religion , I am not talking about bjp hindutva hindus

Kudos to Sai Deepak.We want more like him to argue with likes of Shashi Tharoor.

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Such rubbish this analysis is. Bcos in that case even the language they both speak is an outcome of Colonial era.

@@kushsharma3842 such rubbish analysis is yours. Language doesn’t define colonialism

@@bradmanpanta2741 That's what I'm saying. I hope you understand basic English. *Language, knowledge and accent doesn't define colonialism.*

Should he have then resorted to the backward stance taken by a few, he would've become RSS prachaarak

I pity your analysis if accent is colonial,then language too should be colonial You too should stop using english as a way to communicate There is nothing wrong with somebodies accent

Deepak didn’t address the persecution of lower castes. He is scared of that topic.

Why are you speaking and commenting in English, old man?

Shashi Tharoor is a colonial mouthpiece? Clearly you're living under a rock. Look up his Harvard speech. 🤦🏽‍♂️

Which book

@@Amar-pu3ph india that is bharat

india bharat and pakistan

i have read that books...... Best Book i have ever read ...... Bestest history material . it changes everything . Specially the 1st one - Which was on European Britishers & Decoloniality .

Amount bullshit yall consume under the false pretense of nationalism is baffling.

There's no depth in his argument

@@nem6686 maybe it's too subtle for your brain to take notice...

@@arteygfddfgh maybe. The same old Hindu victimhood narrative to further the agenda of hindutva

@@arteygfddfgh Or maybe it is made too light to appear subtle but actually isn't?

@@arteygfddfgh Not really, his arguments genuinely do lack depth. Sure, he is perfect at shredding his opponent, but s=none of his arguments stand up to scrutiny nor do they have any merit on their own. He starts and leans on errors made by his opponents. He is sort of like Ben Shapiro in that way, very shallow arguments that only hold weight in very narrow belief systems/worldviews

Not just that. When the suggestion for a “Truth and Reconciliation “ process is suggested Mr Tharoor cunningly suggests ‘Oh no, let’s not anything like that. Let bygones be bygones. And let’s bury history under the carpet, and pretend nothing happened.” In other words let’s learn nothing from history, and this is after the most violent dismemberment of Bharath in 1947 just to appease a certain desert cult. So how will Bharath prevent itself from yet another dismemberment???

@@gopalramanathan7062 on a side note I don't mind using the name India. Germans call their country Deutschland but don't mind at all nor do they feel offended when people call it Germany. Seems it's become a trend since 2014 for people to demonize the name "India" as they use the name Bharat or Hindustan. If we have so much of an issue with the name "India" then wonder why we still send our kids to English Medium schools than to Regional language medium institutions.

@@shivinunitholi2493 Time for us to rediscover our own respective mother tongues (‘Regional Languages’), and send our children to schools which teach in our native languages 🙏🏼

@@shivinunitholi2493 I think what Gopal Ramanathan said was not just about Bharath but also about the process of truth nd reconcilliation nd how Mr Tharoor disagreed with that.

@@gopalramanathan7062 you say it's time but how much of that is happening. I'd say none. Regional language schools are getting shut across India. So many Marathi Medium schools that I knew back in 90s and early 2000s when I was a student were shut down coz parents were only interested in sending their kids to English Medium schools. There's only preaching happening nowadays and no practice. Ask Sai Deepak would he bother to send his kids to a local regional language medium school.

They'll reply that they're dumb and then stop speaking anything since ever 😂

True, they say they are against the constitution if that comes in way of quran. They need stricter rules like Saudi, dubai, India is not suitable for them.

for us indeed Islam is first. How can you compare a piece of land to the Lords of heavens and the earth, nebulas, stars and galaxies. Thats idol worshipping. We love our land because Islam says it, not vice versa.

@@kingsentertainment786 all the best for your love!

@@meghanavanivageshwari much appreciated. We don't want rappes happening every 16 minutes in our countries.

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😂🤣😂 exactly

Baap ko Baap mil gaya🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

He is drinking his self esteem

Hahaaahha

These secularist should be sent to sharia countries to practically understand why hindu rashtra is important. When parsi and jews came to India, it was hindu India which took them in not Secular India.

And now Mr Tharoor’s concession is ‘OK from now on I’ll call it pluralism instead of secularism, and I’ll keep on criticising Hinduism because I am nominally one,. But I’ll not say anything against other faith followers even if they do everything to destroy Hindu Dharma in the land of its birth “. Pathetic. May there be many more Dharmics like Sai Deepak to fight for Dharma and save it from extinction by the colonising Abrahamics. 🙏🏼🕉🙏🏼

Sister, I am also a Malayalee settled in Delhi. My heart breaks to see Hindus in Kerala have reduced from 72% in 1901 to 50% now. Kerala undergoing ethnic cleansing and leadership do not bat an eye💔

@@wiggins13 I deeply share your sentiments. Can the land of Kodungallir Bhagathy shethram, Guruvayoor Sree Krishna ambalam, Sree Padmanabha shethram, and Thiruvambadi shethram …… be saved for the Sanathana Dharmics????? Is it too late?

@@gopalramanathan7062 It is so sad Kerala Hindus have forgotten Sanatana Dharma. Only when Sabarimala issue came up some Hindus woke up.. but still many others are in slumber. Beef, Alcohol, Drugs that has become the culture now unfortunately. I hope temple's land be protected 🙏

if u r living in Muslim territory ......you must know how to say..... I m not afraid of Muslims...sashi is master in this.

True.

Waiting for the Throorque's speak and normal skip around a situation and blinks, keeps mum about his party in Kerala, which is already sold to the Muslims.

The biggest problem with the Peaceful Community is that they think everyone else should follow their rules and drag us back to the 7th Century Medieval Culture. They are absolutely Convinced that they are always right and others are wrong.

Mr Sai deepak has no balls to talk about rss and bjp and upper caste Hindus who exploited the majoratarinian Hindus of this country , who are in constant effort of dividing them in the name of dharma.

Rational or philosophical discussions are fine, but the need of the hour is action. Mahabharata and within that Bhagawath Gita are great. But let’s never forget that gist of Bhagawath Gita is ACTION. Time to take action 🙏🏼🕉🙏🏼

Perfectly said mere Bhai 😍🔥❤️🚩🕉️ *We all r Hindus, We all r One Family, We all r following the Greatest, Best, True, God-made Religion of the Universe😍🙏❤️🚩🕉️💪🔥* *Jai Shree Ram😍🙏❤️🚩🕉️💪🔥*

Indeed, the recent debate was remarkable, and it prompts me to emphasize the importance of embracing our common humanity over exclusive religious identities. It's crucial to recognize that being a Hindu, Muslim, or adherent of any faith doesn't guarantee success or fulfillment. Instead, let's prioritize our individual growth, focusing on education, career, and personal well-being. In this era of social media and keyboard activism, it's easy to get entangled in divisive political narratives. However, I advocate for a shift in focus towards building a meaningful life, reading inspiring content, and fostering personal development. By placing emphasis on our careers and learning from positive influences, we not only contribute to our own growth but also create a more harmonious society. It's essential to understand that religious identity should complement our humanity, not overshadow it. Embracing unity and religious harmony can lead to a more compassionate and understanding world. Political narratives often polarize individuals, fostering extremism and detracting from the shared values that unite us. The alarming suicide rate, particularly in India, highlights the urgency of addressing mental health issues and societal pressures. Religion, while providing spiritual guidance, cannot be a sole source of solace. True well-being comes from a holistic approach that includes mental health, personal growth, and fostering connections. As a true Hindu, let us recognize that our religion encourages empathy, compassion, and understanding. It's a call to transcend divisive narratives and work towards a society where individuals are valued for their character and actions rather than their religious affiliations. Together, let's build a world where everyone, regardless of their background, can thrive and contribute positively to society.

I get that you like him but atleast don't say anyone is protecting a religion.. A man is insignificant in front of the religion he believes in... No one absolutely no one can protect a religion

@@priyanshumishra8336 LOL, what the hell are you saying, you praying in temple ,following and respecting our culture is protecting a religion. SIMPLE.

is it ? i s he giving free food and education to poor hindu students??? is he fought any case for free for hindu rape victims? he is bjp pimp like you

@Free World just like Islam did to protect it and made organisations like Isis and Taliban? You need to draw a line man... Get well soon

Lol Hinduism isn't that weak that one man is protecting it

😂😂

Infact even Jinnah opposed kilafat movement But that gandhi suporoted it😅

gandhi supporting khilafat movement was a masterstroke to be very honest it was the only way to popularize unity for a movement in earlier movements people were confined to a mere regions and no all India movement happened correct with an example if i am wrong, non cooperation was thrown just after khilafat to show people that cooperation to British was not fruitful even after cooperating for khilafat and war efforts for WW1 so unifying country in post tech era is so so difficult that no one can able to do because only Gandhi became all India leader all else were regional leader correct me again if i am wrong thankyou

@@shubhamkumar-zj5xrYou are absolutely correct. People still don’t understand Gandhi. Except for a few creepy things he’s accused of and done, rest he was the face of Indian Nationalism

@@shubhamkumar-zj5xr It was not a masterstroke, it was just biased bigotry. I want to politely tell you about the Moplah genocide that happened in the name of khilafat movement. The number of hindus dying is still not confirmed but gandhi blamed hindus for their own massacre. Dr. B.R. Ambedkar also talked about Gandhi's biasedness and his reaction on the genocide. You can check the sources- the book named Pakistan or the partition of India by Dr. B.R. Ambedkar

No surprise. Shashi tharoor only has good English with a pleasant accent & oratory skill. He has no content.

He had excellent replies if anything, I see some bias in your comments. Some of his replies were apt. Further, you can see that through out the discussion, Sai Deepak was wearing the cap of a critic while Tharoor has to justify his criticized view points. If you want a dichotomic view on history, you will only tinge events with your own implicit bias. This is not a criticism of your observation, just letting your consider another opinion.

What was missing here was the true spirit of reconciliation, which everyone speaks about but does not feel - I found Sai Deepak to be an erudite individual who was missing the spirit of what he was espousing himself.

Because he is a politician and has to measure his speech to stay in line with his party and his vote bank

Anybody can mug up facts but high intellect is required to sound like a true statesman

True!!

Really!

Great line. I am saving it. Would be nice to give true credit.

Agree..easier to be an advocate of tradition & civilization and spin anything!

Agreed

Exactly.

Even my niece who is only 5 years old born in the United States speaks better English than Tharoor. Anyone born in English speaking countries speaks good English.

And alas, nothing prevents you from using that to communicate in no other language but the Queen's one 😜😜😜

going to be outdated soon..

@@sindhusaraswathy9227 we all tend to be outdated in another 50 years... So dont worry... Nothing is constant but change and evolution... If you think Hindutva is going yo stay or any cult is going to stay, alas you seem to be having an opportunity to turn to history...

JSD is like a mountain of clarity and vision

JSD Is That kid in the school who clears theory with fying colors but fails in practicals. On the other hand we have tharoor who is more experienced and intellectual would be professor in that practical class.

​@@nirmalraj9128 Exactly... Think if him (JSD) as a kid can make Tharoor to loose his charismatic persona at public speaking which is Tharoor's territory to reign then what will he (JSD) be after having decades of experience like Tharoor. Tharoor had to provide more factual data to support his points, then it would have been interesting to see How Sai Deepak would have encountered him.

JSD?

lets see jsd speak in a couple of decades from now if this country still survives this goon-driven 'hindutva'. 'they' invaded, 'they' colonized, etc etc. no one's prepared to talk abt the corrupt native kings that exploited their people based on the caste system , refused to observe and learn from their own mistakes, lost everything to the muslims and christians!

Do it please ❣️❤️❣️😙

It would be a great service to our country.🙏🙏🙏

👌👍👍

Please go ahead you will serve this country in that form

Yes, you can also consider collaborating with Rajeev Malhotra's org

nothing wrong with talking about faith but that favoritism should alienate other religions religion should really be at home and worship places not in parliament

@@jayd4ever hah, you missed a lot more generals in yiur name

@@jayd4ever who brought it in first place?

@@jayd4ever You realised that only know? Where were you when politicians spent public money on Iftaar parties?

No deeper appreciation about how civilization comes to life and sustains itself and thrives at all, just gurgling of eclectic work by other people already spat out and worn-out path.

There was a tone of Hindutva in his arguments.

@@studywithshubhamsemwal Nothing wrong with that...everybody has right to speak

Tharoor is leagues ahead. And when you are so much more informed and so much more experienced and intelligent you just feel more amused than impressed by a young man's half cooked knowledge..

@@princepaul1058 Exactly he is so *AMUSED*, he is getting nervous in his *AMUSEMENT*. lol...

@@princepaul1058 not just tharoor nervous all anti-India elements, start to get nervous, in case one man's words or speech, awakens the sleeping Hindu' there will be hell to pay for how outsiders and internal cowards took advantage of India's kindness. Wave is coming and all cowards are definitely nervous.

@@princepaul1058 I suppose you think he was leagues ahead of Christopher Hitchens too right?😀

In the first few minutes I saw Deepak scratching his sides.

Like hathras?

True! Most don’t see the vastness of the divine, they understand the universe only that what. Their window reveals, therefore this talk of Indic culture! Culture is a flow, we tend to dam it in.

Civilisation is loving country and citizen. Civilization never supports anti nationals slogans

And many of Indians dont seems to understand their own country, of which a Nation or A Union of state

With gems like Sai Deepak the Lyutian’s are truly buried Hope this marks the end of the Family and the Nehruvian Socialist disaster.

There has always been blatant attempt to hide hindu oppression under the carpet so that we forget with time and same repeated again because of these leftist fools.

Sai deepak looks frustrated trying hard to win the argument using useless rss agenda...tharoor is calm and grace ful knowing pretty well wat deepak is upto..he is like child crying for toy.

@@curious1731 Pathetic bleat. Pray what is the “rss agenda” as you understand it? Perhaps no clue at all and just echoing the Nehruvian Socialist Family drivel. Take a moment and study the basics of Sanathana Dharma. You stand to gain 🙏🏼

@@curious1731 I feel you're rather frustrated the way J.S.Deepak verbally beat up S. Tharoor with logic and argument, lol

Ghantaaa debate achhi thi lekin dono sahi the

Yes

Shashi easily won if this was a debate.

@@5minutecalms Amazing you have come to such a conclusion . Democracy dies if the constitution is not reviewed .

@@5minutecalms ahem! Let me put it in language that you might be able to understand. Absolutely not! And the finger twitches of Tharoor while trying to put his hand under his chin, which was getting virtually pounded with mostly right hooks from Sai, priceless!

Indeed we now have some real champions for Dharma and this punya bhoomi 🕉🙏🏼

@@gopalramanathan7062 The South African Truth and Reconciation was a toothless body. It was more a apologetic exercise. The perpetrators were not dealt with.

@@somagovender7542 Perhaps in substance it was a fruitless exercise but the fact SA went through the motions at least acknowledged the fact that there was a need. Whereas in Bharath the ecosystem is so messed up that they won’t even let that nominal first step happen. The technique in Bharath is despite the atrocities committed on the indigenous Dharmic culture and tradition for over thousand years they continue to perpetuate it till today.

@@gopalramanathan7062 what febrile imagination. Who is perpetrating atrocities on whom? Our rulers are screwing everyone and telling us it's someone else.

Even my niece who is only 5 years old born in the United States speaks better English than Tharoor. Anyone born in English speaking countries speaks good English.

Your comment makes no sense after seeing Tharoor's smooth retorts and sensible answers. Than Deepak who seems like a butthurt schoolboy.

and what's funny about being in a spelling bee competition?

@@5minutecalms sensible or you mean trying to lie about history

So , we should be magnanimous and accept all abuses hurled at us by all and sundry without retaliating . I find Sashi Tharoor being a true follower of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi rather than that of being f Swami Vivekanda's .

@@rooposhreeganguly4290 absolutely not mam, but at the same time if you are not having faith in the judicial process of the country then where does it takes us at all? To anarchy? And you have to understand that " An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind ".

@@rooposhreeganguly4290 another point is that when most of the powerful positions are being occupied by hindu nationalists of the country then why there is lack of proper legislation and executive action? Don't you think the machinery only gets activated when you have some polls nearby?

​@@amankaushal3970 the thing is that there are still class of people exist in india which consists of all religions too , who doesn't believe in legacy of judiciary, because of injustice they individually faced at specific time, and most importantly those class of people are not well educated, infact educated people are also a victim of judicial system of india which is running in British style post independence and pre too , the diversity we have we have to bring the more sophisticated style of doing judgment and whole set of new ipc , and in this country i personally think, you can't follow Gandhian principles, even Gandhian of 1947 era left their principles when gandhi was killed and they mascare whole lots of chitpawan Brahmins,

Proud of what???

It's not India but Bharath. Let's call Bharath.

​@@paradigmnnfproud for great advocate proud for indian not terrorist religion person Proud for his inspiration for every Indian

That's Exactly how Western So Called Indian Scholars debate With Rajiv Malhotra sir. He's Five More Steps Ahead Than JSD. Debating with JNU goons and Harvard Etc...

@@Himachali_Protagonist what is the kilafat movement

@@shailagopalan8898 1) - Are You Questioning me Because You wanna Test My Knowledge on this? 2) - Or are you Questioning me Because You really Don't know? I can Answer Accordingly. 😏

@@Himachali_Protagonist he’s questioning you because you seem to be an average god fearing fukktard

@@xxyyxx2861 crab's crap.

Where has it led us??

@@animelitestudios3283 It is leading us to our doom....

@@qwerty11-jw2hi what kind of doom?? Please elaborate

@@animelitestudios3283 Read this Book, it will explain the 'Doom' I am talking about 👇 "Hindus in Hindu Rashtra (Eighth-Class Citizens and Victims of State- Sanctioned Apartheid)"

@@animelitestudios3283it has led us to being Far ahead of Pakistan, who got independence at the same time as us.

international godi

@@kingsentertainment786 aur tum local lodi media? 😁

@@kingsentertainment786 lodi media tattu

​@@kingsentertainment786 show your intolerance in UP, you will get instant treatment

haa haa, sai deepak s majority of point are flawed. m not fond of shashi tharoor but on ideological level sai deepak isnt putting facts around but is protecting conservative views by few illogical arguments

Nothing to learn from a guy who is wallowing in his victim mentality.

Even my niece who is only 5 years old born in the United States speaks better English than Tharoor. Anyone born in English speaking countries speaks good English.

Unfortunately, being a politician, Tharoor will henceforth avoid encounters with Sai Deepak😀

Did you find anything wanting in sai deepaks english??? Tharoor has only style ( he is handsome) while sai has substance and style.

I agree

Exactly. For too long these colonised minds with fluency in that colonisers tongue could away with being blatantly anti Dharmic. That’s finished. Period.

SAi Deepak is hardly 35 and he speaks with a lot of conviction and clarity . Imagine what he will turn out to be when he is 50 or 60.. he will be as invincible as anyone can be .

Tharoor speaks to impress while Deepak speaks practical.

Totally agree

@Zaid Khan jali hai teri bhai !

Well said, brother

So according to you Dr Shashi Tharoor is not presenting any facts?

@@bkhs755 we are not neglifying Agar tum gay katoge ,to lynching to hogi naa Aur waise bhi hindutva se sikh ,parsi ,jew kyun paresan na ho rhe aur tumko hi pareshani kyun hai .

@@bkhs755 No he is not go to Shashi tharoor channel and see the comments people who don't even know sai Deepak are supporting sai Deepak and the original video is been made private due to obvious reason haha Shashi tharoor really embarrassed himself this time.

How? He didn't even talk about the crimes tharoor mentioned

Without Hindus other minorities have no chance in india

​@@criscrosxxxwhat did tharoor said abt kashmir Hindus and Bengals Hindus??? When sai mentioned

@@psr4550 tearoom

Sai not botherd of cast systems and it's effect on daliths and shoodra, he doesn't press for civil coad for hindu, he doesn't say that, after giving training of pooja vidi, daliths and shoodras should be appointed as priests, atleast in Mujarai Temples. He doesn't insist, that Hindu should sit and eat together, without discrimination. I think, that he belonged to so called upper cast. He doesn't want to talk about, SATHI SAHAGAMAN and BATTHALE SEVA, that's NUED SEVA, and sending girls to prostitution after GEJJE POOJA, in the name of God called DEVADASI systems. Also sending widows to KASHI to beg.

Does that mean we don't do anything wrong?

@@kurapatichaitanya705 no but not calling out on other community for vote bank is wrong

Nehru and his dynasty with support from chamchas like Tharoor created almost all the problems facing India today.

So we should be silent when Hindus commit crimes?

Why can't we just get along as one We all are indians after all

You had to listen to it twice not because he talks of one divine gospel truth but because the man relies on a specific way of framing an argument that is characteristically his. He tends to say provocative things and then offers tangential reasoning that broadens the scope of all that he relies on. He makes sure that the listener confuses the volume of what he relies on with the merit of the particular ground he is basing his arguments on. In doing so, something that this vile man also does masterfully blurs the lines between causation and correlation. Just because A is an idea that relates to B, doesn't mean A is because B is. Listen another time, take off your rose-tinted glasses, and don't be led astray by his barrage of complex words.

@@rohanverma2880 ​ ​ what makes him so vile though? You talk about these rose-tinted glasses, but don’t mention what people would see if they took them off. You accuse J Sai Deepak of masterfully confusing his audience with the volume and scale of his language, yet this is something that Shashi Tharoor is a maestro in.

I believe J. Sai Deepak has a lot of pedigree in the vast amount of information that he has collected regarding the subject matter, as well as the art of debate that he has honed. Where I find myself agreeing to most of his points I often find he lacks a certain kind of foresightedness and relies heavily on the pure information has acquired. Sure, you can be the repository of the all data in the world, but that doesn't necessitate that you get the insight. I think J. Sai Deepak lacks in this very field of having great insight. For example, he assures that the dharmic philosophy which is somehow very endemic to this land and is by default the "original" cultural identity of this land (as if culture itself isn't fluid); will always accommodate all faiths since it has done that so easily in the past. What, in my opinion, he fails to understand is that in modern times many aspects of faith, geopolitics and basic human nature have changed. Jews, before Hitler, were well integrated into society ...yet when an opportunistic jingoist came to power that all went down the drain. Here, he argues that we are fundamentally different from the West since our dharmic traditional thinking is different from the West. But a human psyche is more fundamental than a faith-based lifestyle. Demons were there even within the kaurava-pandava household (argument in lines of the Hindutva proponents). An opportunistic man would always seize power, and in modern times a relatively strong legal framework like our constitution is more robust than some now-obscure inaccurately documented, widely misquoted, open to interpretation and for most parts orally propagated and practised trust-based faith systems like dharmic philosophy. I am pretty sure if J Sai Deepak truly believed in what he said he would thus rather be a yogi than an advocate.

@@rohanverma2880 where are the facts? It is as simple as that. Typical leftist retort for anything which questions them

​@@rohanverma2880it's tiring to read your few lines of comments.... You sound like a real confused person 😂

@ArksareimRoaCriaserMironzesiam Show your real name before speaking. And no one is going to believe that Aryan-Dravidian theory. It's pure trash. All people of this nation have same/similar DNA. Don't try to fool around.

@ArksareimRoaCriaserMironzesiam There's no such thing called as a Dalit brahmin

How did u get the chance.. and who are you talking about

Well after I started listening to Deepak I started hating BJP

@@narsingraoveragotta9841 why?

Yes, but only the comfortable facts.

@@mask2705 What do u mean? He speaks Perfect Facts, Truth, Bitter Truth, Reality, History, Character of religions, He Literally speaks everything 🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪💪🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 He is the Greatest Leader, Warrior Most Knowledgeable person of the World🕉️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪💪🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 Jai Shree Ram🕉️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪💪💪💪💪🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

@@HinduDharma839 Most knowledgeable person of the world???????? Which world G? Looks like you have your own world. For people like you, yes he is the greatest.

He most of the times speek half facts

​@@mask2705 He does not speak what you are taught in the madrassa to be honest .

You may be a Christian, converted at some point of time in the past. But you will remain a Bharatiya for ever.

I am from north India, For me Bhartiya Heritage For me is India's Independence. There is no legacy since from last 1000 years north was invaded. For me constitution is a heritage, Given to us by our freedom leaders, And set us to sail forward as free India. Now For someone like SAI DEEPAK Questioning the very leaders of our freedom in name of dharma is unacceptable for me. Where was ram and dharma when so called BHARAT was colonised. Where were sangh and BJP when Kashmiri pandits were forced to leave their land. What is the point of raising such horrors again in memory of their descendants. Now their savior has come to give them peace. They went to demoish an old building name babri masjid and not went to kashmir. They choose kashmiri pandit because these people are solely dependent on central govt. Most kashmiri pandit are employed in govt. Jobs. they cant dare to utter a word against govt. I supported abrogation of 370 is because this setup is in place of years and it is not working. there is much bloodshed and there is need for a change. Not because i believed in ideology of BJP and SAI DEEPAK.

India is still India because people in North are tolerant, and please donot test it. You know what is targeting Such discussion is our peace. Let us be in peace. Because there is rebilion building in me people like him wont be able to stop it just by words.

Lover boy

​@@nishn111if someone raising the victim card against the violence of Muslims then why don't we have to hide the genocide , is any one talking about these topics like BJP , it is one of the party who had that courage to remove article 370 and hoist the national flag in Kashmir , question is where is the congress actually genocide is happened alot in 1989 ,is congress said anything about that? I don't know why people are forgetting the genocide and violence but when it comes to casteism it will become of topic of discussion

Very well said👍

Shashi was even more calm🤣🤣🤣

Sai lost his calmness towards the end.

Sai is nithing b4 tharoor..only frustrated kid.

@@curious1731 Why you are getting frustrated like child.

No one is defeated by other. Both are arguing for the benefit of the people.

​@@riaklungmoita4923 Not really one talk about facts and love for this country and one was talking in British accent

u r right. Japan is a classical example

Great thought. same feeling

Bcz its so easy to follow the love and affection part of spiritualism but Spirituality also teaches to be fearless but most spiritual people ignore that

True.. 👍

@@nishantchoudhary8540 spirituals Not Leave It Behind. Fake One Wants Hindu To be paralyzed. Take Gandhi as A Classic example.

👍👍

What a thought Sai Deepak Sir - Lets have indigenous future - from Manusmriti - untouchability and extreme varna system, Sati Pratha, Caste favouritism, hindu-buddha/Jainism religion struggle, education only for Brahmin and upper class Kshatriyas MEN - no education for women , language divide, state divide, caste divide😂🤣...

@@NP-tw4bk and as for congress let's make india another Pakistan or Afghanistan by letting muslims practice Sharia law which infact calls for enslavement of 80% of Indian population and advises muslims to enforce jizyah upon this population.

yes!!